[GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash

Sun Aug 7 18:00:47 EDT 2022

Eric

AFAIK you can do this by making a payment of less than the due amount from one
account and then makea second (or more) payment from another account to the same
invoice - just cant do it in a single step.

David Cousens

On Sun, 2022-08-07 at 19:17 +0000, Eric Hammond wrote:
> Thanks again to all who answered my two part question (next time I will make
> it two separate questions...)
> 
> Frank, I already have that selected. The problem is not how transactions are
> entered or displayed.
> If I am entering a manual transaction, I can add any number of splits no
> problem.
> The issue is specifically with the Bill, or Invoice, "Process Payment" form
> which only allows one payment amount, and one transfer account (from the
> account tree).
> If I bypass the "Process Payment" by using manual transactions the Bill or
> Invoice is not closed.
> 
> All the best,
> Eric Hammond
> 
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:19:40 +0200
> From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" <frank.h.ellenberger at gmail.com>
> To: Eric Hammond <eric at jehammond.net>, "gnucash-user at gnucash.org"
> 	<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
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> 
> 
> 
> Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond:
> > The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I
> > purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the
> > company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not
> > pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year.
> 
> Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-):
> Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults,
> select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal"
> 
> More details in
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-reg-def
> 
> Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts.
> 
> Regards
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:44:36 +1000
> From: flywire <flywire0 at gmail.com>
> To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
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> More cat skinning:
> 
> > * the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems:
> *
> 
> In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and it
> will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash).
> 
> Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, drag
> shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop.
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:28:50 -0500
> From: Tom Browder <tom.browder at gmail.com>
> To: Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com>
> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
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> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 21:25 Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > From: Tom Browder <tom.browder at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:37 AM
> > To: Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 08:51 Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ..,
> > 
> > Can you copy the text out of the pdf statement?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Getting "organized" text programmatically out of PDF is a giant pain. My
> > current approach is almost completely programmatic. BTW, Raku is the
> > "sister" language of Perl, and it is a "scripting" language.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Raku can also use Perl modules so I can use Finance::Quote with it if need
> > be. But, until I can get the bank data working, I won't be needing it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, Chris.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Tom
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Tom,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I was actually suggesting you just highlight the transactions in the pdf
> > statement and copy/paste them into a
> > 
> > spreadsheet or text file before using a scripting language to reformat them
> > but if you can programmatically
> > extract the text that would be better long term.
> 
> But I did see Peter West's warning about checking results
> carefully--it's not always the expected result. Although I hope the
> products from the same source are consistent enough to make it
> reasonably fool proof. (See my comments below.)
> 
> > I notice with my PDF statement that (free) Adobe Acrobat DC no longer allows
> > me to select text (as they want me to pay for a fancy tool - BOO) but if you
> > send the pdf to Edge or Chrome you can select just the transaction text.
> 
> Yes, I now see my "PDF COmplete" on Windows can do that--I never
> thought of doing that until now.
> 
> > Thanks for the info re Raku.
> 
> You're welcome! I'm always happy for programmers to learn about Raku
> 
> > Finance::Quote is just for getting stock prices from websites (usually) so
> > not useful for this task.
> 
> Right, but good to know for later.
> 
> > Are you sure you cannot export transactions from your bank? All mine do
> > although sometimes it is hard to find.
> 
> Yes, and I agree it's sometimes hard to find. Yesterday I did find one
> bank (the bank I'm leaving) does have two choices of download for the
> credit card: CSV and OFX. That is very helpful for working on a
> transformation algorithm. I did look at the PDF to text transformation
> on one of the new bank's statements (definitely nothing but PDFs) and
> it looks surprisingly usable, so that's exciting.
> 
> I was too hasty in my outright condemnation of PDF to text because I
> had worked on a project with a PDF expert to generate PDF as a native
> file and saw how easy it is to get things out of place. I usually
> create beautiful, and accurate, PDFs by writing the PostScript code
> and relying on Ghostscript's ps2pdf converter. Thus going backwards in
> the workflow is a little different for my longtime mindset.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -Tom
> 
> 
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> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:57:10 +0100
> From: "Fred Bone" <Fred at mandfb.me.uk>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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> On 06 August 2022 at 19:48, James Baxter said:
> 
> >  I am James Baxter email kangaroo52 at yahoo.comas i found this next part and
> >  i am not good with Linux and Gnucash.org. I am looking to know how to
> >  place that code into this linux or where it is design to go.
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2022 16:12:54 +0300
> From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org, Tom Browder <tom.browder at gmail.com>,
> 	Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
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> 
> I can't imagine having so many transactions that the time it took to program
> the process would in the end save me time in doing the accounting. 
> 
> My method for processing pdf statements is to open the pdf statement in one
> window and enter my transactions in GnuCash in another-- the old fashioned
> way: by keying them in. This is remarkably quick in most cases, due to
> autofill-- and it gives me a sanity check on the data that's getting input
> (does that transaction look right?). It works pretty well for me. 
> 
> David T.
> 
> 
> 
> On August 7, 2022 2:28:50 PM GMT+03:00, Tom Browder <tom.browder at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 21:25 Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > From: Tom Browder <tom.browder at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:37 AM
> > > To: Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 08:51 Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > ..,
> > > 
> > > Can you copy the text out of the pdf statement?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Getting "organized" text programmatically out of PDF is a giant pain. My
> > > current approach is almost completely programmatic. BTW, Raku is the
> > > "sister" language of Perl, and it is a "scripting" language.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Raku can also use Perl modules so I can use Finance::Quote with it if need
> > > be. But, until I can get the bank data working, I won't be needing it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Chris.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Tom
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I was actually suggesting you just highlight the transactions in the pdf
> > > statement and copy/paste them into a
> > > 
> > > spreadsheet or text file before using a scripting language to reformat
> > > them but if you can programmatically
> > > extract the text that would be better long term.
> > 
> > But I did see Peter West's warning about checking results
> > carefully--it's not always the expected result. Although I hope the
> > products from the same source are consistent enough to make it
> > reasonably fool proof. (See my comments below.)
> > 
> > > I notice with my PDF statement that (free) Adobe Acrobat DC no longer
> > > allows me to select text (as they want me to pay for a fancy tool - BOO)
> > > but if you send the pdf to Edge or Chrome you can select just the
> > > transaction text.
> > 
> > Yes, I now see my "PDF COmplete" on Windows can do that--I never
> > thought of doing that until now.
> > 
> > > Thanks for the info re Raku.
> > 
> > You're welcome! I'm always happy for programmers to learn about Raku
> > 
> > > Finance::Quote is just for getting stock prices from websites (usually) so
> > > not useful for this task.
> > 
> > Right, but good to know for later.
> > 
> > > Are you sure you cannot export transactions from your bank? All mine do
> > > although sometimes it is hard to find.
> > 
> > Yes, and I agree it's sometimes hard to find. Yesterday I did find one
> > bank (the bank I'm leaving) does have two choices of download for the
> > credit card: CSV and OFX. That is very helpful for working on a
> > transformation algorithm. I did look at the PDF to text transformation
> > on one of the new bank's statements (definitely nothing but PDFs) and
> > it looks surprisingly usable, so that's exciting.
> > 
> > I was too hasty in my outright condemnation of PDF to text because I
> > had worked on a project with a PDF expert to generate PDF as a native
> > file and saw how easy it is to get things out of place. I usually
> > create beautiful, and accurate, PDFs by writing the PostScript code
> > and relying on Ghostscript's ps2pdf converter. Thus going backwards in
> > the workflow is a little different for my longtime mindset.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > -Tom
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> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 09:25:27 -0400
> From: Glenn Fowler <gfowler1 at outlook.com>
> To: Tom Browder <tom.browder at gmail.com>
> Cc: Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com>, GnuCash users group
> 	<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
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> On Windows I would recommend Ocular which is a PDF viewer and light editor
> that you can find in the Windows Store. Ocular allows copying text.
> 
> Ocular is open source, ad free, and make by KDE so you won't have to worry
> about them taking features away like mentioned with Adobe.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2022, 7:28 AM Tom Browder <tom.browder at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 21:25 Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > From: Tom Browder <tom.browder at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:37 AM
> > > To: Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 08:51 Chris Good <goodchris96 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > ..,
> > > 
> > > Can you copy the text out of the pdf statement?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Getting "organized" text programmatically out of PDF is a giant pain. My
> > current approach is almost completely programmatic. BTW, Raku is the
> > "sister" language of Perl, and it is a "scripting" language.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Raku can also use Perl modules so I can use Finance::Quote with it if
> > need be. But, until I can get the bank data working, I won't be needing it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Chris.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Tom
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I was actually suggesting you just highlight the transactions in the pdf
> > statement and copy/paste them into a
> > > spreadsheet or text file before using a scripting language to reformat
> > them but if you can programmatically
> > > extract the text that would be better long term.
> > 
> > But I did see Peter West's warning about checking results
> > carefully--it's not always the expected result. Although I hope the
> > products from the same source are consistent enough to make it
> > reasonably fool proof. (See my comments below.)
> > 
> > > I notice with my PDF statement that (free) Adobe Acrobat DC no longer
> > allows me to select text (as they want me to pay for a fancy tool - BOO)
> > but if you send the pdf to Edge or Chrome you can select just the
> > transaction text.
> > 
> > Yes, I now see my "PDF COmplete" on Windows can do that--I never
> > thought of doing that until now.
> > 
> > > Thanks for the info re Raku.
> > 
> > You're welcome! I'm always happy for programmers to learn about Raku
> > 
> > > Finance::Quote is just for getting stock prices from websites (usually)
> > so not useful for this task.
> > 
> > Right, but good to know for later.
> > 
> > > Are you sure you cannot export transactions from your bank? All mine do
> > although sometimes it is hard to find.
> > 
> > Yes, and I agree it's sometimes hard to find. Yesterday I did find one
> > bank (the bank I'm leaving) does have two choices of download for the
> > credit card: CSV and OFX. That is very helpful for working on a
> > transformation algorithm. I did look at the PDF to text transformation
> > on one of the new bank's statements (definitely nothing but PDFs) and
> > it looks surprisingly usable, so that's exciting.
> > 
> > I was too hasty in my outright condemnation of PDF to text because I
> > had worked on a project with a PDF expert to generate PDF as a native
> > file and saw how easy it is to get things out of place. I usually
> > create beautiful, and accurate, PDFs by writing the PostScript code
> > and relying on Ghostscript's ps2pdf converter. Thus going backwards in
> > the workflow is a little different for my longtime mindset.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > -Tom
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnucash-user mailing list
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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