[GNC] No Stock Quotes - OS Monterey, Gnucash 4.8(Build ID: 4.8a+(2021-09-28))

davidcousens49 at gmail.com davidcousens49 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 10 17:40:49 EST 2022


Dennis

The “-rwxr-xr-x” are the file permissions. 
There are normally 10 characters in the string. The first is usually "d" or "-"
with d indicating that the entry is a file directory rather than a file. 

The other nine are arranged in three groups of three each group of three being
the permissions for the user who owns the files, the second the permissions for
other members of a group of users the user may belong to, and the third group
are permissions for all other users on the system.
  
In each group of three, the first character ("r" or "-") indicates whether the
file or directory can be read from, the second("w" or "-") whether a user in
that category can write to the file and the third ("x" ot '-") indicates whether
the file can be executed by a user in that category. ("-" in all cases means
permission is not granted.

The permissions returned in John's example mean that the system root owns the
files and users in the group "wheel" or all other uses have permission to read
and execute the file but not write to it. 

The lack of these in the return is just an indication that the MAC's modified
version of the file listing utility does not comply with the normal Linux
definition of these switches on the command. "-al" normally means to list all
files and directories (including hidden) in the current directory ("a") in the
standard list format ("l") which would normally include listing the file
permissions first. The MAC OSX ls commands help is given at 
https://ss64.com/osx/ls.html and the "l" option does not list the file
permissions. For some reason Apple has decided a user doesn't need to know what
these are and they will only appear if the file has extended attributes or
security information.

David Cousens


On Thu, 2022-02-10 at 14:40 -0700, smada46 at hotmail.com wrote:
> John, again thanks.  Yes, the obvious is not obvious to me as I am a user and
> much beyond that I am lost, especially with doing terminal commands. I love
> using GC and it works great until MAC or sometimes GC updates  and there are
> problems which I try to find solutions to in the Archives.  But when I don’t,
> I ask for help but again am not that coding or terminal savvy.  I do try
> though and appreciate all the help and patience you all provide.
> 
> I ran the “sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app” command and the check
> which is below and seems to be correct.
> 
> Last login: Thu Feb 10 12:58:28 on ttys000
> dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app
> Password:
> dwa1 at dwa1 ~ %  xcode-select -p
> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer
> dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % 
> 
> I then ran “export
> PATH=“/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin:$PATH” which resulted
> in the “dquote>” prompt.  Here again, I am not sure if I am supposed to
> substitute something for $PATH or not or if that is the command.  At the
> “dquote>” prompt, I typed in “gnc-fq-update” which just went to the “dquote>”
> prompt again without updating FQ.  Is gnc-fq-update  the command or am I
> supposed to type something in front of gnc-fq-update?
> 
> dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % export
> PATH=“/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin:$PATH"
> dquote> gnc-fq-update
> dquote>  
> 
> In an earlier e-mail you stated:
> 
>  /usr/bin is right where you'd expect it, but you can't see it with Finder,
> only from the terminal. For example you can type
>   ls -l /usr/bin/make
> and if it's there get back something like
>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  167088 Dec  7 15:39 /usr/bin/make*
> 
> When I ran”ls -1 /user/bin/make” and “ls -1 /user/bin/xcrun” I got back “root
> wheel 167072 Jan 22 00:42 /usr/bin/make” and “root wheel 166544 Jan 22 00:42
> /usr/bin/xcrun”  From that I thought I had “make” and “xcrun” but neither of
> the responses had the “-rwxr-xr-x” before the “1 root—-“ as in your
> result.  Since I am missing  the “-rwxr-xr-x”, does that mean I don’t have
> “make” and “xcrun” installed?
> 
> Again, I appreciate your help and patience and am sorry it is taking so long
> to understand this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:43, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > 
> > Dennis,
> > 
> > I guess you missed the line "making the obvious substitution" right after
> > the Xcode-select line, or the substitution isn't that obvious. Since you did
> > install it as Xcode.app in /Applications, you'd say
> >  sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app
> > You can check that it worked with 
> >  xcode-select -p
> > which should print 
> >  /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer
> > 
> > No, /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools exists only if you've installed
> > command line tools by running
> >  sudo xcode-select --install
> > which you bailed out of because of the long download time. 
> > 
> > I dug into /usr/bin/make a bit. It's not make, so it must be an xcrun
> > launcher, which if your Xcode-select path is pointed at the uninstalled
> > command line tools folder would explain the error messages and of course
> > it's finding /usr/bin/make first. I should have recognized that and told you
> > export PATH=“/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin:$PATH"
> > instead. Of course it wouldn't have mattered because of the /Path/to/
> > substitution misunderstanding.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> > 
> > 
> > > On Feb 10, 2022, at 10:51 AM, smada46 at hotmail.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > John,  I ran the “ls -l /usr/bin/make” command for “make” and “xcrun” and
> > > got the following which I guess says I have both “make” and “xcrun”.
> > > 
> > > Last login: Thu Feb 10 07:21:15 on console 
> > > 
> > > dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % -rwxr-xr-x 1 dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % -rwxr-xr-x 1 dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % 
> > > 
> > > ls -l /usr/bin/make
> > > root wheel 167072 Jan 22 00:42 /usr/bin/make 
> > > 
> > > ls -l /usr/bin/xcrun
> > > root wheel 166544 Jan 22 00:42 /usr/bin/xcrun 
> > > 
> > > One of the errors at the end of a previous terminal output for
> > > “/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-check” was: 
> > > 
> > > xcrun: error: invalid active developer path
> > > (/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools ), missing xcrun at:
> > > /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/xcrun 
> > > 
> > > In Finder, I went to /Library/Developer but there was no “Command Line
> > > Tools folder.  I know you said I wouldn’t see /usr/bin with Finder, but
> > > shouldn’t there at least be a Command Line Tools folder under Developer?
> > > 
> > > Regarding installation.  When I installed Xcode, I let it install where it
> > > wanted to (Applications) without changing the name.  I did what you
> > > suggested and ran “sudo xcode-select -s /Path/to Xcode.app” anyway with
> > > the following results:
> > > 
> > > dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % sudo xcode-select -s /Path/to Xcode.app Password:
> > > xcode-select: error: invalid argument 'Xcode.app'
> > > Usage: xcode-select [options] 
> > > 
> > > Print or change the path to the active developer directory. This directory
> > > controls which tools are used for the Xcode command line tools (for
> > > example, xcodebuild) as well as the BSD development commands (such as cc
> > > and make). 
> > > 
> > > Options:
> > > -h, --help
> > > -p, --print-path
> > > -s <path>, --switch <path> --install 
> > > 
> > > developer tools -v, --version -r, --reset 
> > > 
> > > dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % 
> > > 
> > > print this help message and exit
> > > print the path of the active developer directory set the path for the
> > > active developer directory open a dialog for installation of the command
> > > line 
> > > 
> > > print the xcode-select version
> > > reset to the default command line tools path 
> > > 
> > > I then tried to run “sudo xcode-select -p —print-path Xcode.app” and got
> > > the same “error: invalid argument ‘Xcode.app’
> > > 
> > > I then ran “export
> > > PATH=“$PATH:/Path/to/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin" and got a
> > > “dquote>” prompt.  I then typed in “gnc-fq-update”, “sudo gnc-fq-update’,
> > > “run gnc-fq-update” and the full path
> > > “/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-check”
> > > sequentially, all with the same result, it just reverted to the “dquote>”
> > > prompt.  So apparently, I am not doing this correctly.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Feb 9, 2022, at 21:51, john <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Your dump looks pretty much llke a rerun of the same problem except that
> > > > now you also have an SSL certificate problem.
> > > > 
> > > > /usr/bin is right where you'd expect it, but you can't see it with
> > > > Finder, only from the terminal. For example you can type
> > > >   ls -l /usr/bin/make
> > > > and if it's there get back something like
> > > >   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  167088 Dec  7 15:39 /usr/bin/make*
> > > > 
> > > > Did you install Xcode in /Applications without messing with the name? If
> > > > not you might try
> > > >  sudo xcode-select -s /Path/to Xcode.app
> > > > making the obvious substitution. 
> > > > Or, since something seems confused, maybe run that even if you *did*
> > > > install it in /Applications.
> > > > 
> > > > Since make is in the Xcode bundle you might be able to work around the
> > > > problem for Finance::Quote with 
> > > >  export PATH="$PATH:/Path/to/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin"
> > > > and then running gnc-fq-update again.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > John Ralls
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Feb 9, 2022, at 8:05 PM, dennis adams <smada46 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > John, thanks for the response.  I believe I have the full XCode (32GB
> > > > > worth) but don’t know for sure since I don’t use it.  I only have it
> > > > > because of GC.  I hadn’t opened it but did after your response and
> > > > > told it to install the “additional components”.  After that, I ran the
> > > > > “gnc-fq-update” command again and got the “You need to install the
> > > > > following Perl modules: Finance::Quote” result when I ran a check,
> > > > > like before.  Terminal info is attached.  (Note: I changed the GC app
> > > > > name from Gnucash 4.8.app to just Gnucash.app so you will see that
> > > > > change in the sudo command line). 
> > > > > 
> > > > > You stated that on your mac, “xcrun” and “make”are in the
> > > > > /usr/bin.  Not sure where that is but I right clicked the xCode app
> > > > > and then clicked show contents.  With this following path:
> > > > > xCode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin   I did find “make” but did not
> > > > > find “xcrun”.  Is that the correct location where they should
> > > > > be?  There are a lot of other xc—— commands but no “xcrun”
> > > > > 
> > > > > You stated I could install command-line tools by running  “xcode-
> > > > > select —install”.  Even though I think I have the full xCode with
> > > > > 32.12 GB, I went ahead and ran the command.  Since I am on slow DSL
> > > > > (2.87Mbps) it showed 215 hours remaining to download so I stopped
> > > > > it.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any other thoughts or ways to get “xcrun”?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Feb 9, 2022, at 18:54, john <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2022, at 1:36 PM, dennis adams <smada46 at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Upgraded to Monterey (V12.2) and got black screen for GC.  Read
> > > > > > > mailing list and saw  where I needed to get GC 4.8 which I
> > > > > > > did.  Installed 4.8 and GC came up and displayed correctly but am
> > > > > > > now unable to get stock quotes.  The Price Database Get Quotes
> > > > > > > button is greyed out.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Went to Applications, GC 4.8, Contents, Resources, bin and clicked
> > > > > > > on gnc-fq-check which said:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > “Last login: Wed Feb 9 13:18:07 on ttys000
> > > > > > > /Applications/Gnucash\ 4.8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-check 
> > > > > > > ; exit; dwa1 at dwa1 ~ % /Applications/Gnucash\
> > > > > > > 4.8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-check
> > > > > > > ; exit;
> > > > > > > You need to install the following Perl modules: Finance::Quote
> > > > > > > Use your system's package manager to install them, or run 'gnc-fq-
> > > > > > > update' as root.
> > > > > > > missing-lib
> > > > > > > Saving session...
> > > > > > > ...copying shared history...
> > > > > > > ...saving history...truncating history files... ...completed.
> > > > > > > [Process completed] “
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I had old version of XCode which didn’t work with Monterey so
> > > > > > > updated to version 13.2.1 and then ran “sudo
> > > > > > > /Applications/Gnucash\ 4.8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-
> > > > > > > update”.  Terminal info from that run is attached, but basically
> > > > > > > it didn’t work since when I ran the gnc-fq-check again, I got the
> > > > > > > same message as above.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I’m well out of my depth with all this and not sure where to go
> > > > > > > from here.  The Terminal information does not really make sense to
> > > > > > > me but there were several statements like “missing xcrun at:
> > > > > > > /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/xcrun “  and “the
> > > > > > > following files are missing in your kit: .travis.yml “ as well as
> > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It would seem that if I had all the FQ commands in
> > > > > > > /Applications/Gnucash\4.8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/ xxx then I
> > > > > > > have FQ installed but the check says no.  Don’t know where to go
> > > > > > > from here.  Any help would be appreciated.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Most of the modules failed to install and it looks like it was
> > > > > > because there was no `make` either on the path or in the command-
> > > > > > line tools directory. You could install command-line tools by
> > > > > > running 
> > > > > > xcode-select --install
> > > > > > but that should be superfluous if you've installed the full Xcode.
> > > > > > Having installed it have you run it so that it can install it's
> > > > > > "additional components"? On my mac xcrun and make are in /usr/bin.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > John Ralls
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <Update4 FQ 2-9-22.pdf>
> 
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