[GNC] Mutual Fund Class Conversion
Geoff
cleanoutmyshed at gmail.com
Tue Feb 15 23:35:19 EST 2022
Fear not Jack, you are nearly there!
The magic number we are looking for (your Cost Base) is:
(a) what you paid for the Initial Purchase
(b) the cash equivalent value of your two Reinvests
I think you know these numbers because you have shown them as "$xxxx",
and we don't need to know them here.
"DRP" = Dividend Reinvestment Plan.
Ignore the discrepancy in the column headings - for DFMGX I used the
menu option View / Transaction Journal; for DFMLX I used (the default)
View / Auto-Split Ledger.
Sorry again for the confusion.
Good night.
Geoff
=====
On 16/02/2022 2:48 pm, Jack Frillman wrote:
> Now I'm really confused.
> No brokerage fees. I pay mine on a quarterly basis and it's an IRA
> account so no taxes yet.
> I don't know what a DRP is so the answer is no to that one.
>
> First thing is I don't have split transactions and the columns in my
> register do not match what you have.
> My columns are: Date Num Description Transfer R Shares Price Buy
> Sell Balance
> I have no idea where your "Tot Debt" and "Tot Credit" columns came
> from and I don't have them.
>
> I have only 3 transactions:
>
> Description Transfer Shares
> Buy Balance
> Initial Purchase Invest:IRA 398.75 $xxxx 398.75
> Reinvest IRA:Dividends 6.148
> $xxxx 404.989
> Reinvest IRA:Dividends 5.311 $xxxx 410.209
>
>
> I will take a closer look at your example in the morning.
>
>
>
> On 2/15/22 9:59 PM, Geoff wrote:
>> Sorry Jack, that is just the total acquisition cost of your 410.209
>> units in DFMGX:
>> - How much did you pay for them?
>> - Were there any brokerage fees or taxes?
>> - Did you receive any units in lieu of income (DRP)?
>>
>> Add that all up and enter it as the Credit when you reduce DFMGX, and
>> again as the Debit when you increase DFMLX.
>>
>> See attached screenshot for an imaginary example where you purchased
>> two lots (300 and 100) and received a further 10.209 via DRP. (Dates
>> are in DD/MM/YYYY format).
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Geoff
>> =====
>>
>> On 16/02/2022 1:20 pm, Jack Frillman wrote:
>>> That make sense except for the "The value you attribute to this
>>> transaction should be the total cost base of DFMGX, so that DFMLX
>>> inherits the same cost base."
>>> How do I do that?
>>> When I reduce DFMGX by 410.20900 shares to 0 transfer them to the new
>>> DFMLX with the transaction drop-down selection thingy?
>>> OR
>>> Do I just reduce DFMGX by 410.20900 shares to 0 by dumping them into
>>> a trash account then enter a new balance of 410.08500 in the DFMLX
>>> account?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/15/22 8:14 PM, Geoff wrote:
>>>> Hi Jack
>>>>
>>>> ***Assuming there is no cash component, and this is not a capital
>>>> gains taxable event, I think that you need to:
>>>>
>>>> (a) Create a new Security and a new Account for DFMLX.
>>>> (b) In a single transaction, reduce the balance of DFMGX to zero,
>>>> and increase the balance of DFMLX to 410.085. The value you
>>>> attribute to this transaction should be the total cost base of
>>>> DFMGX, so that DFMLX inherits the same cost base.
>>>>
>>>> ***I am not an accountant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Geoff
>>>> =====
>>>>
>>>> On 16/02/2022 11:18 am, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How should I handle a "Mutual Fund Share Class Conversion".
>>>>>
>>>>> In my case I had the following transaction, see summary below, show
>>>>> up in my broker account:
>>>>>
>>>>> (410.20900) shares of DF DENT MID CAP GROWTH FUND INSTL CL N/L
>>>>> (DFMGX)
>>>>> converting to
>>>>> 410.08500 shares of DF DENT MID CAP GROWTH FUND INSTL PLUS CL N/L
>>>>> (DFMLX)
>>>>>
>>>>> No price or $ amount is associated with this transaction.
>>>>> The only things that changed are 1) ticker symbol, 2) name of
>>>>> Mutual Fund, 3) number of shares.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>
>
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