[GNC] Exiting GNUCash

Tue Jan 18 14:27:56 EST 2022

First, I would like to say that when I was referring to clicking the "x" it was for GNUCash, which the brings up the dialog for "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel".  However, if I click the cancel button it "crashes" as well.  Also, even if I click the Save, it does the same thing.  All instances "crash" GNUCash and any entries not saved since the last automatic save are lost.  I also feel it has nothing to do with OneDrive as it worked fine until this last problem.

Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: D. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:46 PM
To: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
Cc: Gyle McCollam <gmccollam at live.com>; D. via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

David,

That's off topic. And I don't use OneDrive. Better to start a different topic.

David T.
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From: David Carlson
Sent: Tue Jan 18 13:42:16 EST 2022
To: "D."
Cc: Gyle McCollam , "D. via gnucash-user"
Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

David T,

Is One Drive able to hide all the file system lags that it introduces from programs like GnuCash?  If so, I need to consider using it.  That is why I am asking for more comments here.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 12:11 PM D. < sunfish62 at yahoo.com<mailto:sunfish62 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
David,

What Gyle is describing has nothing to do with OneDrive. Gnucash shouldn't exit the program when he closes the "Save/Close without Saving/Cancel" dialog box by clicking the "X" for the dialog-- and it sure shouldn't leave the lock file in place when it does so. That the lock file still exists supports the idea of a crash.

Gyle: what happens if you click Cancel?

David T.
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From: David Carlson
Sent: Tue Jan 18 12:01:53 EST 2022
To: Gyle McCollam
Cc: " gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>"
Subject: Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

That is an issue with the way you have your file system organized, but it
is not necessarily bad or wrong, just an artifact, I think.  I do not use
OneDrive or equivalent yet myself because I have not decided how to manage
that very issue of the lag while background updates are happening to my
data file storage system.

You are getting that lock warning because your OneDrive has not caught up
with you yet.  If you open anyway, you are burdening the OneDrive with more
work to keep the data intact, and I do not know if it can handle that, thus
I do not try it.  Perhaps other users of that type of arrangement can give
us their experience.That is probably also the cause of the Save Changes
warning.  That may actually lose your recent work just as warned.  Again,
perhaps others have experience with OneDrive.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:38 AM Gyle McCollam <gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at live.com>> wrote:

      David, Hopefully I can clarify what is happening.  I did not abandon an

 edit.  I finished an entry, but clicked on the "x" to shutdown before

 saving.  Included is a screenshot of a test entry that was completed (see

 last line).  Then, I clicked on the "x" to shutdown and the dialogue popped

 up.

 I seem to remember that "cancel" brought you back into GNUCash and "save"

 atctually save the current state of the file.  Now, it doesn't matter which

 option I choose it, I think it crashes GNUCash.  Then on the next startup

 it tells me:

 I select "Open Anyway" and the test entry is gone.  I hope this make it

 more clear.

 Thank You,

 *Gyle McCollam*

 Gyle McCollam

 609.680.2326                     Mobile

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     gmccollam at gyleshomes.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>>           email

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 *From:* David Carlson <
     david.carlson.417 at gmail.com<mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>>

 *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 8:46 PM

 *To:* Gyle McCollam <
     gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at live.com>>

 *Cc:*
     gnucash-user at gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> <
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 *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

 It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one

 thing did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the

 presumed cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to

 open a file already in use are different events.

 Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,

 exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to

 actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really long

 time to shut down.  For example, when Linux decides to put some of

 GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over a minute

 for the OS to recover and close the open file.

 On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam <
     gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at live.com>> wrote:

 I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has

 been happening.  Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came up, I

 selected "cancel".  GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I tried to

 open it thought there was another instance running, but I said open

 anyway.  I tested this again with the same result.  Then I tried it again,

 this time telling the system to save.  It shut down again, but it did not

 save!  I got the same message about the file already in use.

 Has anyone else encounter this error?  I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9.

 Thank You,

 Gyle McCollam

 Gyle McCollam

 609.680.2326                     Mobile

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     gmccollam at gyleshomes.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>>           email

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