[GNC] Invoicing & payments with "coupons: I sell to clients

Eric Hammond eric at jehammond.net
Tue Jul 12 18:18:02 EDT 2022


Revisiting the pre-paid invoice  (coupon, credit note ...) issue:

In standard accounting a prepaid debt (aka a coupon, credit note, etc) is booked as a liability.
On paper, and as direct import of transactions into GnuCash, this works
However, I abandoned the brute force transaction method since I really like the GnuCash Invoice and Bill features: so I started fresh with imported Invoices and Bills.

My real life example: client prepays for 13 1 hour tutoring sessions, $25 each; to be used over the next year:
1. New Invoice for the prepayment:
	 Dr.	$325 Assets: Receivables	Cr. 	$325 Liabilities: Prepaid
2. Process Payment for the coupons                                 	
	Dr. 	$325 Assets: Cash                         	Cr. 	$325 Assets: Receivables

I 'earn' payment for an individual session when it is complete.
3. New invoice for that session 
 	Dr. 	$25 Assets: Receivables		Cr. 	$25 Income: Tutoring
4. and pay for it from the prepay
	Dr. 	$25 Liabilities: Prepaid	 	Cr.	$25 Assets: Receivables

GnuCash, however, appears to only allow payment of an invoice from an asset.
Is there a way GnuCash can accommodate this?

Thanks for any help,

Eric Hammond

PS: Am I supposed to keep the rest of the messages below?


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Example of accounts for a personal residence with
      entries for US tax basis (Michael or Penny Novack)
   2. Re:  Saving window position (and size) (Martin Booth)
   3. Re:  Saving window position (and size) (Tracy)
   4. Re:  Saving window position (and size) (David Carlson)
   5. Re:  Saving window position (and size) (kschneider bout-tyme.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 12:32:04 -0400
From: Michael or Penny Novack <stepbystepfarm at comcast.net>
To: Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com>, Tom Browder
	<tom.browder at gmail.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Example of accounts for a personal residence with
	entries for US tax basis
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If you need, you can split the expenditure between the Asset (affecting the basis) and the Expense accounts.


The purpose of accounting is INFORMATION. That is what my "PS" was all 
about. Thinking that you have to split the expenditure is an illusion. 
You might want/need all of part of that expenditure considered BOTH as a 
(current) expense and as an increase in basis (for future capital gains 
calculation).This is unlike the situation for a business, as personal 
home expenses are not expenses in the tax sense. So "double counting" is 
not an issue.

This is not unlike the situation for a non-profit paying an expense that 
meets the qualifications of one of the restricted funds. You 
transaction(s) have to BOTH record the expenditure and expense AND 
release that amount from restriction. Exactly what that latter part 
looks like depends on how the restricted funds are accounted for.

Michael D Novack





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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 18:12:37 +0100
From: Martin Booth <mdj.booth at yahoo.co.uk>
To: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>, Tracy
	<gnulist at vbot.org>
Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
Message-ID:
	<8715771549c8bbee14e76066889a4c20c3f17aac.camel at yahoo.co.uk>
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Hi David,
No issues for me.
I am running GS 4.11 on Ubuntu 22.04 and the windows stay in the same
place where I left them when I last closed GS
Regards,
Martin 


On Tue, 2022-07-12 at 09:48 -0500, David Carlson wrote:
> Tracy,
> 
> I would not like a desktop that did not remember where a window was
> located
> on the desktop/display combination when last used.? Any other users
> seeing
> similar issues?
> 
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 7:32 AM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > Everything I can find says that Gnome (the desktop environment set
> > up by
> > default in Ubuntu 22.04 - which was also the desktop environment
> > used in
> > 20.04, which worked as expected) does not save window placement
> > information. Instead, it is the responsibility of the application.
> > Gnome
> > will attempt to place applications according to a scheme if the
> > application
> > does not specify a starting position, but the application gets
> > first call
> > on that (at least according to what I see - I am not an expert on
> > this).
> > 
> > I am starting to wonder, though, if something in Gnome hasn't
> > changed (or
> > maybe a setting got clobbered during the upgrade), because another
> > application has started showing the same problem (LibreOffice Calc
> > is now
> > doing the same thing GnuCash does - it opens correctly sized, but
> > not
> > correctly positioned). So I am going to try to research that aspect
> > and see
> > if there is a setting in Gnome that may be overriding the
> > application's
> > requested startup positioning.
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 01:26 David Carlson
> > <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Wouldn't the position on the desktop be a desktop setting?? How
> > > do other
> > > program windows position themselves when opened?? In my test
> > > system of
> > > Lubuntu 22.04 GnuCash opened the first time in the center of the
> > > desktop
> > > and thereafter in the same place it was when I closed it, just as
> > > Libre
> > > Office , web browsers, games and other programs do.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 9:46 PM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Gyle,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the response. The desktop icons and such work a
> > > > little
> > > > differently under Ubuntu than under Windows. But even so, if I
> > > > go
> > > > directly to the exectuable and launch the application from
> > > > there, I get
> > > > the same result.
> > > > 
> > > > And thank you for correcting my mistake there - it is indeed
> > > > Preferences, not Settings - and the heading immediately over
> > > > the Save
> > > > Window Size And Position is Window Geometry.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 7/11/22 20:13, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> > > > > Tracy,
> > > > > I'm on 4.11 on Windows 11 so I may have different options.?
> > > > > Mine is
> > > > under Edit/Preferences/Windows/Window Geometry and has a check
> > > > box for
> > > > "save window size and position".? It works fine.? However, if
> > > > the icon
> > to
> > > > start Gnucash has the properties set for anything other than?
> > > > "Normal
> > > > Window", they override the setting in Gnucash.? If it is set to
> > > > "Normal
> > > > Window" then Gnucash works the way you would like.? So my
> > > > suggestion is
> > to
> > > > check how your Gnucash Icon is set.? Hope that helps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank You,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Gyle McCollam
> > > > > 
> > > > > Gyle McCollam
> > > > > 
> > > > > gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>??????????
> > > > > email
> > > > > 
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: gnucash-user
> > > > > <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail.com at gnucash.org
> > > 
> > > > on behalf of Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 7:10 PM
> > > > > To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org?<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> > > > > Subject: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ubuntu 22.04
> > > > > Gnucash 4.8
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the Edit > Settings dialog, under "Window" there is an
> > > > > option to
> > save
> > > > > the current window size and position. However, this does not
> > > > > appear to
> > > > > be working fully - when I position GnuCash on the screen,
> > > > > then close
> > it,
> > > > > then reopen it, it opens with the correct size, but not in
> > > > > the correct
> > > > > position - instead of where I left it, it opens with the
> > > > > upper left
> > > > > corner of the GnuCash window positioned at the upper left
> > > > > corner of
> > the
> > > > > desktop (instead of having the GnuCash window positioned 2/3
> > > > > of the
> > way
> > > > > to the right on the desktop, as it was when I closed it).
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have looked into the Wiki and found that the window
> > > > > position and
> > size
> > > > > is stored in:
> > > > > 
> > > > > $HOME/.local/share/gnucash/books/GnuTest.gnucash.gcm
> > > > > 
> > > > > Closing GnuCash and editing this file (specifically changing
> > > > > the
> > > > > WindowPosition property in the [Window 1] section) does not
> > > > > change the
> > > > > startup position of the GnuCash window.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there another place I should be looking for this, or am I
> > completely
> > > > > confused and there is another setting in the Settings window
> > > > > that I
> > > > > should be looking at, or....?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Note that this was an upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash
> > > > > 3.<I don't
> > > > > remember the point version> so it is possible that there are
> > > > > files or
> > > > > settings that were left behind by the upgrade process that
> > > > > are
> > > > > interfering (if so, and someone can point me to a resource
> > > > > for
> > cleaning
> > > > > up those settings, I would be happy to poke at it...)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance for any information or assistance on this.
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > gnucash-user mailing list
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> > > 
> > > --
> > > David Carlson
> > > 
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> 



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 13:20:57 -0400
From: Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org>
To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
Message-ID:
	<CAMamm6Ww6S8BaEosawywk2=JiAW0JE8U6dgK4cKFXMwTNeVkeQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Well, I haven't gotten very far in digging, but the fact that other people
are not having the problem makes it that much more likely that it is my
machine. If it wasn't such a pain to set everything back up afterwards, I
would just wipe the system and install fresh.

Meanwhile, I will keep looking and see if I can figure out which setting(s)
are causing the problem. If I figure it out, I will report back.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 13:12 Martin Booth <mdj.booth at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi David,
> No issues for me.
> I am running GS 4.11 on Ubuntu 22.04 and the windows stay in the same
> place where I left them when I last closed GS
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>
> On Tue, 2022-07-12 at 09:48 -0500, David Carlson wrote:
> > Tracy,
> >
> > I would not like a desktop that did not remember where a window was
> > located
> > on the desktop/display combination when last used.  Any other users
> > seeing
> > similar issues?
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 7:32 AM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi David,
> > >
> > > Everything I can find says that Gnome (the desktop environment set
> > > up by
> > > default in Ubuntu 22.04 - which was also the desktop environment
> > > used in
> > > 20.04, which worked as expected) does not save window placement
> > > information. Instead, it is the responsibility of the application.
> > > Gnome
> > > will attempt to place applications according to a scheme if the
> > > application
> > > does not specify a starting position, but the application gets
> > > first call
> > > on that (at least according to what I see - I am not an expert on
> > > this).
> > >
> > > I am starting to wonder, though, if something in Gnome hasn't
> > > changed (or
> > > maybe a setting got clobbered during the upgrade), because another
> > > application has started showing the same problem (LibreOffice Calc
> > > is now
> > > doing the same thing GnuCash does - it opens correctly sized, but
> > > not
> > > correctly positioned). So I am going to try to research that aspect
> > > and see
> > > if there is a setting in Gnome that may be overriding the
> > > application's
> > > requested startup positioning.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 01:26 David Carlson
> > > <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wouldn't the position on the desktop be a desktop setting?  How
> > > > do other
> > > > program windows position themselves when opened?  In my test
> > > > system of
> > > > Lubuntu 22.04 GnuCash opened the first time in the center of the
> > > > desktop
> > > > and thereafter in the same place it was when I closed it, just as
> > > > Libre
> > > > Office , web browsers, games and other programs do.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 9:46 PM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Gyle,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the response. The desktop icons and such work a
> > > > > little
> > > > > differently under Ubuntu than under Windows. But even so, if I
> > > > > go
> > > > > directly to the exectuable and launch the application from
> > > > > there, I get
> > > > > the same result.
> > > > >
> > > > > And thank you for correcting my mistake there - it is indeed
> > > > > Preferences, not Settings - and the heading immediately over
> > > > > the Save
> > > > > Window Size And Position is Window Geometry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/11/22 20:13, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> > > > > > Tracy,
> > > > > > I'm on 4.11 on Windows 11 so I may have different options.
> > > > > > Mine is
> > > > > under Edit/Preferences/Windows/Window Geometry and has a check
> > > > > box for
> > > > > "save window size and position".  It works fine.  However, if
> > > > > the icon
> > > to
> > > > > start Gnucash has the properties set for anything other than
> > > > > "Normal
> > > > > Window", they override the setting in Gnucash.  If it is set to
> > > > > "Normal
> > > > > Window" then Gnucash works the way you would like.  So my
> > > > > suggestion is
> > > to
> > > > > check how your Gnucash Icon is set.  Hope that helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank You,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gyle McCollam
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gyle McCollam
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>
> > > > > > email
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: gnucash-user
> > > > > > <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail.com at gnucash.org
> > > >
> > > > > on behalf of Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 7:10 PM
> > > > > > To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> > > > > > Subject: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ubuntu 22.04
> > > > > > Gnucash 4.8
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the Edit > Settings dialog, under "Window" there is an
> > > > > > option to
> > > save
> > > > > > the current window size and position. However, this does not
> > > > > > appear to
> > > > > > be working fully - when I position GnuCash on the screen,
> > > > > > then close
> > > it,
> > > > > > then reopen it, it opens with the correct size, but not in
> > > > > > the correct
> > > > > > position - instead of where I left it, it opens with the
> > > > > > upper left
> > > > > > corner of the GnuCash window positioned at the upper left
> > > > > > corner of
> > > the
> > > > > > desktop (instead of having the GnuCash window positioned 2/3
> > > > > > of the
> > > way
> > > > > > to the right on the desktop, as it was when I closed it).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have looked into the Wiki and found that the window
> > > > > > position and
> > > size
> > > > > > is stored in:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $HOME/.local/share/gnucash/books/GnuTest.gnucash.gcm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Closing GnuCash and editing this file (specifically changing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > WindowPosition property in the [Window 1] section) does not
> > > > > > change the
> > > > > > startup position of the GnuCash window.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there another place I should be looking for this, or am I
> > > completely
> > > > > > confused and there is another setting in the Settings window
> > > > > > that I
> > > > > > should be looking at, or....?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that this was an upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash
> > > > > > 3.<I don't
> > > > > > remember the point version> so it is possible that there are
> > > > > > files or
> > > > > > settings that were left behind by the upgrade process that
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > interfering (if so, and someone can point me to a resource
> > > > > > for
> > > cleaning
> > > > > > up those settings, I would be happy to poke at it...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for any information or assistance on this.
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > gnucash-user mailing list
> > > > > > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > > > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> > > > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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> > > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more
> > > > > information.
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > David Carlson
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 12:48:41 -0500
From: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
To: Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org>
Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
Message-ID:
	<CADYgSbnrUfP8-DYZ1ta-ZaCvFN3WKSLbbSRHFehFf4W1k1JveA at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

If Gnome is still using Tweaks, it might be buried in there, although I did
not see a specific setting in Ubuntu 20.04

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:21 PM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:

> Well, I haven't gotten very far in digging, but the fact that other people
> are not having the problem makes it that much more likely that it is my
> machine. If it wasn't such a pain to set everything back up afterwards, I
> would just wipe the system and install fresh.
>
> Meanwhile, I will keep looking and see if I can figure out which setting(s)
> are causing the problem. If I figure it out, I will report back.
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 13:12 Martin Booth <mdj.booth at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> > No issues for me.
> > I am running GS 4.11 on Ubuntu 22.04 and the windows stay in the same
> > place where I left them when I last closed GS
> > Regards,
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2022-07-12 at 09:48 -0500, David Carlson wrote:
> > > Tracy,
> > >
> > > I would not like a desktop that did not remember where a window was
> > > located
> > > on the desktop/display combination when last used.  Any other users
> > > seeing
> > > similar issues?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 7:32 AM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi David,
> > > >
> > > > Everything I can find says that Gnome (the desktop environment set
> > > > up by
> > > > default in Ubuntu 22.04 - which was also the desktop environment
> > > > used in
> > > > 20.04, which worked as expected) does not save window placement
> > > > information. Instead, it is the responsibility of the application.
> > > > Gnome
> > > > will attempt to place applications according to a scheme if the
> > > > application
> > > > does not specify a starting position, but the application gets
> > > > first call
> > > > on that (at least according to what I see - I am not an expert on
> > > > this).
> > > >
> > > > I am starting to wonder, though, if something in Gnome hasn't
> > > > changed (or
> > > > maybe a setting got clobbered during the upgrade), because another
> > > > application has started showing the same problem (LibreOffice Calc
> > > > is now
> > > > doing the same thing GnuCash does - it opens correctly sized, but
> > > > not
> > > > correctly positioned). So I am going to try to research that aspect
> > > > and see
> > > > if there is a setting in Gnome that may be overriding the
> > > > application's
> > > > requested startup positioning.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 01:26 David Carlson
> > > > <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Wouldn't the position on the desktop be a desktop setting?  How
> > > > > do other
> > > > > program windows position themselves when opened?  In my test
> > > > > system of
> > > > > Lubuntu 22.04 GnuCash opened the first time in the center of the
> > > > > desktop
> > > > > and thereafter in the same place it was when I closed it, just as
> > > > > Libre
> > > > > Office , web browsers, games and other programs do.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 9:46 PM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Gyle,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the response. The desktop icons and such work a
> > > > > > little
> > > > > > differently under Ubuntu than under Windows. But even so, if I
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > directly to the exectuable and launch the application from
> > > > > > there, I get
> > > > > > the same result.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And thank you for correcting my mistake there - it is indeed
> > > > > > Preferences, not Settings - and the heading immediately over
> > > > > > the Save
> > > > > > Window Size And Position is Window Geometry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/11/22 20:13, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> > > > > > > Tracy,
> > > > > > > I'm on 4.11 on Windows 11 so I may have different options.
> > > > > > > Mine is
> > > > > > under Edit/Preferences/Windows/Window Geometry and has a check
> > > > > > box for
> > > > > > "save window size and position".  It works fine.  However, if
> > > > > > the icon
> > > > to
> > > > > > start Gnucash has the properties set for anything other than
> > > > > > "Normal
> > > > > > Window", they override the setting in Gnucash.  If it is set to
> > > > > > "Normal
> > > > > > Window" then Gnucash works the way you would like.  So my
> > > > > > suggestion is
> > > > to
> > > > > > check how your Gnucash Icon is set.  Hope that helps.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank You,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gyle McCollam
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gyle McCollam
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>
> > > > > > > email
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: gnucash-user
> > > > > > > <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail.com at gnucash.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > on behalf of Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 7:10 PM
> > > > > > > To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> > > > > > > Subject: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ubuntu 22.04
> > > > > > > Gnucash 4.8
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the Edit > Settings dialog, under "Window" there is an
> > > > > > > option to
> > > > save
> > > > > > > the current window size and position. However, this does not
> > > > > > > appear to
> > > > > > > be working fully - when I position GnuCash on the screen,
> > > > > > > then close
> > > > it,
> > > > > > > then reopen it, it opens with the correct size, but not in
> > > > > > > the correct
> > > > > > > position - instead of where I left it, it opens with the
> > > > > > > upper left
> > > > > > > corner of the GnuCash window positioned at the upper left
> > > > > > > corner of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > desktop (instead of having the GnuCash window positioned 2/3
> > > > > > > of the
> > > > way
> > > > > > > to the right on the desktop, as it was when I closed it).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have looked into the Wiki and found that the window
> > > > > > > position and
> > > > size
> > > > > > > is stored in:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > $HOME/.local/share/gnucash/books/GnuTest.gnucash.gcm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Closing GnuCash and editing this file (specifically changing
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > WindowPosition property in the [Window 1] section) does not
> > > > > > > change the
> > > > > > > startup position of the GnuCash window.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there another place I should be looking for this, or am I
> > > > completely
> > > > > > > confused and there is another setting in the Settings window
> > > > > > > that I
> > > > > > > should be looking at, or....?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note that this was an upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash
> > > > > > > 3.<I don't
> > > > > > > remember the point version> so it is possible that there are
> > > > > > > files or
> > > > > > > settings that were left behind by the upgrade process that
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > interfering (if so, and someone can point me to a resource
> > > > > > > for
> > > > cleaning
> > > > > > > up those settings, I would be happy to poke at it...)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any information or assistance on this.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 17:50:35 +0000
From: kschneider bout-tyme.net <kschneider at bout-tyme.net>
Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
Message-ID: <8F4C6BCB-E16E-4B21-ACCD-0F23941ACE54 at bout-tyme.net>
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Another option is to create a new user and see if the behavior affects the new user.

Ken Schneider 

> On Jul 12, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Well, I haven't gotten very far in digging, but the fact that other people
> are not having the problem makes it that much more likely that it is my
> machine. If it wasn't such a pain to set everything back up afterwards, I
> would just wipe the system and install fresh.
> 
> Meanwhile, I will keep looking and see if I can figure out which setting(s)
> are causing the problem. If I figure it out, I will report back.
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 13:12 Martin Booth <mdj.booth at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> No issues for me.
>> I am running GS 4.11 on Ubuntu 22.04 and the windows stay in the same
>> place where I left them when I last closed GS
>> Regards,
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 2022-07-12 at 09:48 -0500, David Carlson wrote:
>>> Tracy,
>>> 
>>> I would not like a desktop that did not remember where a window was
>>> located
>>> on the desktop/display combination when last used.  Any other users
>>> seeing
>>> similar issues?
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 7:32 AM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> Everything I can find says that Gnome (the desktop environment set
>>>> up by
>>>> default in Ubuntu 22.04 - which was also the desktop environment
>>>> used in
>>>> 20.04, which worked as expected) does not save window placement
>>>> information. Instead, it is the responsibility of the application.
>>>> Gnome
>>>> will attempt to place applications according to a scheme if the
>>>> application
>>>> does not specify a starting position, but the application gets
>>>> first call
>>>> on that (at least according to what I see - I am not an expert on
>>>> this).
>>>> 
>>>> I am starting to wonder, though, if something in Gnome hasn't
>>>> changed (or
>>>> maybe a setting got clobbered during the upgrade), because another
>>>> application has started showing the same problem (LibreOffice Calc
>>>> is now
>>>> doing the same thing GnuCash does - it opens correctly sized, but
>>>> not
>>>> correctly positioned). So I am going to try to research that aspect
>>>> and see
>>>> if there is a setting in Gnome that may be overriding the
>>>> application's
>>>> requested startup positioning.
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 01:26 David Carlson
>>>> <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Wouldn't the position on the desktop be a desktop setting?  How
>>>>> do other
>>>>> program windows position themselves when opened?  In my test
>>>>> system of
>>>>> Lubuntu 22.04 GnuCash opened the first time in the center of the
>>>>> desktop
>>>>> and thereafter in the same place it was when I closed it, just as
>>>>> Libre
>>>>> Office , web browsers, games and other programs do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 9:46 PM Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gyle,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for the response. The desktop icons and such work a
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> differently under Ubuntu than under Windows. But even so, if I
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> directly to the exectuable and launch the application from
>>>>>> there, I get
>>>>>> the same result.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And thank you for correcting my mistake there - it is indeed
>>>>>> Preferences, not Settings - and the heading immediately over
>>>>>> the Save
>>>>>> Window Size And Position is Window Geometry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/11/22 20:13, Gyle McCollam wrote:
>>>>>>> Tracy,
>>>>>>> I'm on 4.11 on Windows 11 so I may have different options.
>>>>>>> Mine is
>>>>>> under Edit/Preferences/Windows/Window Geometry and has a check
>>>>>> box for
>>>>>> "save window size and position".  It works fine.  However, if
>>>>>> the icon
>>>> to
>>>>>> start Gnucash has the properties set for anything other than
>>>>>> "Normal
>>>>>> Window", they override the setting in Gnucash.  If it is set to
>>>>>> "Normal
>>>>>> Window" then Gnucash works the way you would like.  So my
>>>>>> suggestion is
>>>> to
>>>>>> check how your Gnucash Icon is set.  Hope that helps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gyle McCollam
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gyle McCollam
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>
>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: gnucash-user
>>>>>>> <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail.com at gnucash.org
>>>>> 
>>>>>> on behalf of Tracy <gnulist at vbot.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 7:10 PM
>>>>>>> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [GNC] Saving window position (and size)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 22.04
>>>>>>> Gnucash 4.8
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In the Edit > Settings dialog, under "Window" there is an
>>>>>>> option to
>>>> save
>>>>>>> the current window size and position. However, this does not
>>>>>>> appear to
>>>>>>> be working fully - when I position GnuCash on the screen,
>>>>>>> then close
>>>> it,
>>>>>>> then reopen it, it opens with the correct size, but not in
>>>>>>> the correct
>>>>>>> position - instead of where I left it, it opens with the
>>>>>>> upper left
>>>>>>> corner of the GnuCash window positioned at the upper left
>>>>>>> corner of
>>>> the
>>>>>>> desktop (instead of having the GnuCash window positioned 2/3
>>>>>>> of the
>>>> way
>>>>>>> to the right on the desktop, as it was when I closed it).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have looked into the Wiki and found that the window
>>>>>>> position and
>>>> size
>>>>>>> is stored in:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> $HOME/.local/share/gnucash/books/GnuTest.gnucash.gcm
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Closing GnuCash and editing this file (specifically changing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> WindowPosition property in the [Window 1] section) does not
>>>>>>> change the
>>>>>>> startup position of the GnuCash window.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is there another place I should be looking for this, or am I
>>>> completely
>>>>>>> confused and there is another setting in the Settings window
>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>> should be looking at, or....?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note that this was an upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash
>>>>>>> 3.<I don't
>>>>>>> remember the point version> so it is possible that there are
>>>>>>> files or
>>>>>>> settings that were left behind by the upgrade process that
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> interfering (if so, and someone can point me to a resource
>>>>>>> for
>>>> cleaning
>>>>>>> up those settings, I would be happy to poke at it...)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any information or assistance on this.
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> gnucash-user mailing list
>>>>>>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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>>>>>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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>>>>>> information.
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> David Carlson
>>>>> 
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