[GNC] Trading accounts

David T. sunfish62 at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 27 09:26:08 EDT 2022


Geoff, 

Changing values of reconciled transactions without notice renders a book completely unreliable for any accounting purpose. If that's not evil, what is? 

David T.

On July 27, 2022 2:46:34 PM GMT+03:00, Geoff <cleanoutmyshed at gmail.com> wrote:
>Lots.
>
>(And they aren't really evil, just wilful).
>
>;--))
>
>Geoff
>=====
>
>On 27/07/2022 8:36 pm, David Carlson wrote:
>> This has confused me.  Is the recent thread titled "
>> [GNC] Evil Lots Behavior" about lots or trading accounts?
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:10 AM David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> David C.
>>> 
>>> Trading accounts are not the same as lots. Different concept, different
>>> code. Just a for instance: trading accounts are turned on by book; lots can
>>> be enabled by account.
>>> 
>>> David T.
>>> 
>>> On July 27, 2022 3:33:37 AM GMT+03:00, David Carlson <
>>> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I believe that you are witnessing first hand why trading accounts are not
>>>> enabled by default,  i.e. they create a royal mess in your trading history.
>>>> 
>>>> You might want to re-read the recent thread about evil trading accounts.
>>>>   They may work ok for some users who's documentation goals align with the
>>>> design parameters of TA's.
>>>> 
>>>> Other users will prefer to continue either manually tracking lots in
>>>> external spreadsheets or trusting their brokers back rooms to do it for
>>>> them.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, I am neither a developer nor an accountant, just a long term user.
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 5:47 PM Fred Tydeman <tydeman.fred at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   Over the past several months, I have been importing Quicken data into
>>>>>   GnuCash.  There is about 6 years of data and lots of transactions.  Besides
>>>>>   normal income and expenses, that data involved many different stocks and
>>>>>   many different currencies.  Recently, I saw a reference to "Trading"
>>>>>   accounts.  I have now enabled that feature.  Based on reading
>>>>>   https://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/tutorial, I believe that
>>>>>   my old transactions that involve currencies (and maybe stocks and other
>>>>>   assets whose value varies) were done wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Do I need to redo old transactions involving currencies?
>>>>>   Do I need to redo old transactions involving stocks?
>>>>>   Do I need to redo old transactions involving any assets whose price
>>>>>   varies?  This probably depends upon the asset, eg. no for Real Estate.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Is there an easy way to fix the mess I have created?
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Aside:  I do not recall any mention of trading accounts in the Tutorial
>>>>>   early on when it talked about setting up the Chart of Accounts.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   What is the reason that Trading accounts are not turned on by default?
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