[GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account

Gyle McCollam gmccollam at live.com
Mon Jun 27 14:31:57 EDT 2022


David,
Further info.  Here is a url directly to the Bugzilla website for Gnucash: https://bugs.gnucash.org.   You need to be registered, then you can log in.  Once you log in the link is the 3rd of 5 on the left.  You will find "enhancements" under the "severity" section.  Don't file as a bug, because it is not considered that and it will only complicate things.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com>           email

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From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail.com at gnucash.org> on behalf of davidvernonlong at gmail.com <davidvernonlong at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 2:10 PM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account

Hi Michael or Penny Novack, you suggest "Have you tried creating an account
of type income with a name like "credit note totals"? It would, of course
tend to have a debit balance (negative with respect to other income
accounts."

I did think of that and it would work, but the accounts I wish to post to
from the credit note are regular expense accounts like "repairs and
maintenance" which members have paid for and claiming re-imbursement, which
already exist as an expense account, so I would have to double up on the
same account as an income account for repairs and maintenance for example.
What's more, in Profit and Loss Reports the repairs and maintenance account
would appear in 2 places, one as an expense and add into the total expenses,
and one as a negative income, which would deduct from total income, which is
not where it belongs.

I shall ask for an enhancement to treat this correctly using the procedure
Gyle McCollam explained.

David



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Reports - Income Statement (Michael or Penny Novack)
   2. Re:  Credit note posting to an expense account
      (Michael or Penny Novack)
   3. Re:  GnuCash 4.11 Release (Kalpesh Patel)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:14:38 -0400
From: Michael or Penny Novack <stepbystepfarm at comcast.net>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Reports - Income Statement
Message-ID: <a52352c5-d5f5-f581-cfd5-7cbcdab0f660 at comcast.net>
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On 6/26/2022 10:20 PM, nev.jen.b at gmail.com wrote:
> In Reports/Income & Expenses/Income Statements - Is it possible for
> any account which has $0 transactions for the year to be eliminated or
> just not printed?
>
> Thanks
>
> Neville Brown
>
And while you are at it (selecting zero balance accounts not to show) look
at ALL of your report options. Actually, I am slightly surprised that you
were not already going onto edit => report options because THIS report is
always for between a range of dates so you would always be wanting to
specify "start date" and "stop date".

However, let me suggest something else. This is a report where you MIGHT
want to first run with zero balances showing, look at the report to see if
there were any UNEXPECTED zeroes, then rerun with zero balances suppressed
<< just change the option >> This is for roughly the same reason that I ran
the reports "raw" and then hand editing after exporting. In other words,
assuming not some kind of error (the unexpected zero) I'd be leaving that
one showing with an annotation explaining why << like "the vendor who did
the printing/postage for our annual meeting announcement hasn't sent an
invoice yet" >>

In other words, you want to see an UNEXPECTED zero amount as that is
something you will want to look into to find out why.

Michael D Novack




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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:25:09 -0400
From: Michael or Penny Novack <stepbystepfarm at comcast.net>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
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> n 6/26/22 11:17 AM, davidvernonlong at gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi Adrien,
>> In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account
>> at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or
>> liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I
>> select

This MIGHT be a slight misunderstanding about the difference between
accounts of type "income" and "expense" (as well as how they are the same.
Both are "temporary" accounts of fundamental type equity and differ only in
the sense of their normal balances. Income accounts normally have a credit
balance and expense accounts normally a debit balance.

But you CAN have "contra" accounts.

Have you tried creating an account of type income with a name like "credit
note totals"? It would, of course tend to have a debit balance (negative
with respect to other income accounts.

Michael D Novack




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:47:54 -0400
From: "Kalpesh Patel" <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
To: <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release
Message-ID: <003601d88a3d$44aa01a0$cdfe04e0$@usa.net>
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There are definite noticeable changes to menus on 4.11 of GNC - number of
items in the menu list and where they are found in the list -- as well.



It is throwing me off from previous click through flows that were second in
nature . I am observing these changes on Windows 10.



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> The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.11, the twelfth
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> Between 4.10 and 4.11, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

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>    Bug 797163 - qof_book_get_option segfaults when retrieving a
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>    Bug 798471 - Can't see or select Income or Expense accounts in
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>    Bug 798493 - Invoice Report Quantity & Unit Price fields have
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