[GNC] Am I in business?
davidcousens49 at gmail.com
davidcousens49 at gmail.com
Tue May 17 17:56:08 EDT 2022
Arthur,
When replying to a question it is legitimate to copy the title of the post you are replying to "Re: [GNC] Am I in business?" to the subject line of the reply where the reply is a continuation of that discussion, particularly when replying to a digest. It normally happens automatically when replying to an individual email. As long as the email is addressed to "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" it will reach the list. Most email clients have a Reply to List function which will copy the list address to the address field of the email, other wise you can do that manually. The Reply to All function will usually send the reply to all users in the To: and Cc: fields of the message you are replying to - not desirable in many cases when replying to a mailing list.
It is also possible in the mailing list preferences to set them to receive the
individual replies to the list rather than the digest - ups the emails you get
but I find it easier than having to cut subjects out of the digest and my email
client has some efficient processes for deleting and or archiving all emails
from a given address, sender, subject etc so I am able to manage it easily.
Adding an individual's private email address will then result in them receiving
two copies, one directly and one via the list which can be mildly annoying. To
address an individual who made a previous comment, I usually use their name in
my reply. The general protocol on mailing lists is not to respond to an
individual's private email address (unless invited to do so -e.g. where you
might need to disclose information you may not want to make public, but are
prepared to disclose it to an indiviual). The purpose of a list is really the
exchange of information between users and other users, users and developers and
that function is lost in private email exchanges. It also means the exchange is
available to other list users as an educational tool. I often learn new aspects
of the use of Gnucash and accounting, particularly where the latter differs in
different jurisdictions from the list discussions.
David Cousens
On Tue, 2022-05-17 at 21:20 +0000, arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:
> Just want to thank all those who responded to my query. Thanks for the
> substack suggestion. Thanks for the cautions about advice. I'm aware of that
> aspect, don't worry.
> With respect to that: laws against giving financial advice and the danger of
> accepting such from the unqualified, I think we need a sort of boilerplate
> text we could append to replies and perhaps even queries which satisfactorily
> deals with both aspects.
> It does get tedious constantly running into it whenever you raise a question.
> My queries range across a lot of subjects and finance is only one them. And
> in each subject the are addressed to many venues - as often as not simply
> found by googling.
> Its obvious that great volumes of financial information is displayed freely on
> thousands, maybe millions, of webpages by such as solicitors, accountants,
> bookkeepers, software vendors and I don't know what-all else. Together with
> much, much more from 'authorised' sources like the ATO, Lands Dept, Rev SA
> and on and on.All of them issuing disclaimers and caveats without much problem
> at all.
> If they can do it we can all do it. There's far too much panicky nervousness
> and caution I think. There's real dangers and there's real ways of obviating
> them. All reminiscent of the covid madness.
> That's that.
> I've got this continuing problem with my inability to properly understand how
> to use this list.
> I get an email from a member addressed to me that's fine. I can respond to it
> and choose 'reply to all' as suggested or requested in the template footnote
> But mainly I just get mailing list updates with a number of subjects listed at
> the top. I look at that and see if my query is in there. If it is I go read
> it and then perhaps, like now, I'd like to respond to that particular person.
> But I don't know how to do that.
> Except perhaps by noting the email address, noting out subject line, noting
> the text, writing a new reply email and inputting all that and making the
> reply go to 'reply all' or something.
> Its surely easier than that. What should I be doing?
>
>
> On Sunday, 15 May 2022, 01:30:16 am ACST, <gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Am I in business? (Liz Dodd)
> 2. Re: Am I in business? (Nathan Ellery)
> 3. invoice function for android app (goedible)
> 4. Re: Import Map Editor - accidentally deleted account (Bogdan)
> 5. Re: invoice function for android app (Jim DeLaHunt)
> 6. Re: Am I in business? (Bret Busby)
> 7. Re: a place to ask personal finance questions [was: Re: Am I
> in business?] (list+gnucash at jdlh.com)
> 8. Re: question (Greg Feneis)
> 9. Re: Am I in business? (davidcousens49 at gmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 13:20:51 +1000
> From: Liz Dodd <edodd at billiau.net>
> To: "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Am I in business?
> Message-ID: <20220514132051.73f48d2e at zenbook2.billiau.net>
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> On Sat, 14 May 2022 02:31:52 +0000 (UTC)
> arthur brogard via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> > I and my ex jointly own four properties two of which are rented out.
>
> Thinking differently here, I see a red flag because there is an
> unexplained relationship between the owners of the properties. I'd
> suggest that these are kept in separate "books" and quite separate from
> any of your personal accounts.
> As already mentioned, excellent records are required to be sure that
> all allowable deductions are received.
>
> Liz
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 11:52:19 +0800
> From: Nathan Ellery <ntellery at gmail.com>
> To: GnuCash users group <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Am I in business?
> Message-ID:
> <CAAaiKKWmN6ScXqdOggVjDrrRhPmt6_iKL+Azpma1KwAR96_66w at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Arthur, I'm in Perth WA, self employed in own business and was using
> Quickbooks 2002 to keep my records but much was in flux.
> I no longer have the ability to reinstall my QB and it's on an old XP
> 32bit machine so I thought it was time to upgrade, so to what?
> I suspect I've waited too long for QB because it might not be able to read
> my old files but I wanted complete control over my records rather than the
> current online in the cloud versions. I found Gnucash and my SIL is a
> bookkeeper anyway so engaged her to create me new set of custom books in
> Gnucash. She was already using it in Linux to do their own books. It seems
> to be working out ok. I am still running parallel QB until I am ready to
> jump over. I hope to be able to get more comprehensive reports on
> everything I do.
> My properties are half with a manager and half self managed which makes it
> harder. The manager gives me great detailed reports that I just use each
> year to compile but being with a property guru team I am reasonably
> educated on what can be claimed and what records to keep. As someone
> pointed out already, it's not just claimable allowances but also
> calculations for any renovations or improvements, calcs for CGT if you sell
> etc, Poor records and you could be paying thousands extra in tax.
> Yes you should have separate accounts too.
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 11:21 AM Liz Dodd <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 14 May 2022 02:31:52 +0000 (UTC)
> > arthur brogard via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I and my ex jointly own four properties two of which are rented out.
> >
> > Thinking differently here, I see a red flag because there is an
> > unexplained relationship between the owners of the properties. I'd
> > suggest that these are kept in separate "books" and quite separate from
> > any of your personal accounts.
> > As already mentioned, excellent records are required to be sure that
> > all allowable deductions are received.
> >
> > Liz
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 22:33:25 -0700
> From: goedible <goedible at gmail.com>
> To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] invoice function for android app
> Message-ID: <627f3f26.1c69fb81.f6e20.79e4 at mx.google.com>
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> Hi.? How could I support the creation of the invoicing feature that exists in
> the desktop version into the android version of gnu cash?? Perhaps with
> additional features for starting the clock and pausing for breaks in
> realtime.Jonathan Francoeur a.k.a. Kernel HazelnutEverything Edible
> Landscaping H.Q.48.381980, -123.707835Http://eeLandscaping.blogspot.com250 642
> 02676411 Sooke Rd., Sooke, B.C., Canada, V9Z 0A8
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 09:25:41 +0200
> From: Bogdan <sinovij at gmail.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Import Map Editor - accidentally deleted account
> Message-ID:
> <CAFcVBYzApexyb7zdvUGGhhhnFaK211GaKHpTQZ0WZA4Eeyqksg at mail.gmail.com>
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> Hello, does anybody have a suggestion how to fix the import map editor?
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2022, 12:26 Bogdan <sinovij at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've accidentally deleted several accounts in the Import Map Editor -
> > Bayesian (actually, I was trying to delete a match string but it would
> > delete the entire source account with all match strings). Now, obviously,
> > matching on import no longer works for these accounts.
> >
>
> Is there a way to restore it?
>
> Making a new import does not record the missing account in the Import Map
> > Editor (and match strings are not recorded).
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 00:25:52 -0700
> From: Jim DeLaHunt <list+gnucash at jdlh.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] invoice function for android app
> Message-ID: <c8bb211b-b3f9-1476-b49b-e8a8ce8bcec3 at jdlh.com>
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>
> Hello, Jonathan! Greetings from across the water in Vancouver.
>
> On 2022-05-13 10:33 p.m., goedible wrote:
> > Hi.? How could I support the creation of the invoicing feature that exists
> > in the desktop version into the android version of gnu cash?? Perhaps with
> > additional features for starting the clock and pausing for breaks in
> > realtime.Jonathan Francoeur a.k.a. Kernel HazelnutEverything Edible
> > Landscaping H.Q.48.381980, -123.707835Http://eeLandscaping.blogspot.com250
> > 642 02676411 Sooke Rd., Sooke, B.C., Canada, V9Z 0A8
>
> It sounds like you are asking about the Android app, "GnuCash for Android".
>
> That app is a separate project from GnuCash, the desktop application.
> This list is not the right place to reach the developers of that app.
> Some of what this project knows about GnuCash and Mobile Devices is on
> our wiki at <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GnuCash_and_Mobile_Devices>;.
>
> It looks like a project page for "GnuCash for Android" is at
> <https://github.com/codinguser/gnucash-android>;. I see there that "Pull
> requests are always welcome!" But I also see there that their support
> community was on Google+, which has been shut down. And the most recent
> change to the code seems to have been 18 months ago. Maybe that project
> is not very active at the moment.
>
> Also, when you say, "additional features for starting the clock and
> pausing for breaks in realtime", it sounds to me like you are asking for
> task timing: 1 hours 32 minutes working on Project A, 12 minute break,
> 55 minutes on Project B, etc. I don't see anything on the GnuCash for
> Android page which says that this functionality is part of their scope.
> It is not in scope for GnuCash desktop either.
>
> But I totally understand the value of the feature. One of the reasons I
> keep paying for the commercial web app Freshbooks is because they do
> task timing well and make it really easy for me. I track my time and
> generate invoices from Freshbooks, then enter the invoice information in
> duplicate in GnuCash. Freshbooks does have an Android app
> <https://www.freshbooks.com/en-ca/accounting-app> but I don't use it,
> and I don't know if it does task timing.
>
> A search for "Time tracking" in the Android store might turn up some
> candidate apps.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Best regards,
> ??? ?Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 15:05:12 +0800
> From: Bret Busby <bret at busby.net>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Am I in business?
> Message-ID: <af6b2f45-0b8f-22c6-9333-dcd43c211599 at busby.net>
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>
> On 14/5/22 10:31 am, arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:
> > Hope this is the right way to introduce a new question/thread.
> >
> > I and my ex jointly own four properties two of which are rented out.
> > We are not registered for gst and are not in business though I have an ABN
> > leftover from when I attempted an online business.
> > Are we conducting an enterprise?? Will be be eligible to pay GST when we
> > sell any of those properties?
> > Should we be keeping certain records?
> > Should the arrangement be formalised as a partnership or something?
> > What should we be aware of?
> > I'm putting my personal household expenses etc. into gnucash but not in any
> > really strict or serious way.? Should I be getting that more properly
> > organised?
> > This is the only forum I know of where I can ask such questions.? If it's
> > misuse of this forum and anyone knows a more fitting place please let me
> > know.
> > :)
> > ab
> >
>
> This is a software users list, for seeking assistance in using the
> particular software.
>
> Asking what you have, is like going and sitting in the waiting area of a
> medical practice or a hospital, and seeking qualified medical advice
> from the people waiting to get medical advice and treatment.
>
> If you want to get brain surgery, or, your house built and maintained,
> or, your car serviced, by a layman, who might not have relevant skills
> or experience, then, okay, do it that way.
>
> As an unqualified layman, my personal opinion, of no consequence, being
> not a qualified professional, is quite simple - you are renting out at
> least one property - you are obtaining income by other than direct
> payment for your labour (wages); therefore, you are operating a business.
>
> Go to a qualified and accredited, practising accountant.
>
> Whilst you conspicuously omitted the information of where you are
> located, with the use of the terms GST and ABN, in combination, you
> appear to be in Australia.
>
> Therefore, you would be subject to Australian taxes and tax laws.
>
> Which means that, ever since you started renting out your properties,
> you are supposed to have been declaring all income and expenditure,
> related to them, and, possibly your residence.
>
> In Australia, I believe that the applicable term for whom you need to
> see, is a CPA - a Certified Practising Accountant.
>
> You need to consult with one, as soon as possible. Find one in your
> area, and, make an appointment, and explain all of your sources of
> income, and, seek CERTIFIED, QUALIFIED, advice, as soon as possible.
>
> Fines for not having met obligations regarding tax laws, can be
> expensive, and, provide no benefits (other than an expensive learning
> experience) for the individual.
>
> Lack Of Knowledge is no defence (people often quote the malapropism
> "Ignorance is no defence", but, ignorance involves a deliberate act to
> ignore knowledge, which is different to lacking the knowledge).
>
> Asking here, for the advice that you have asked, is the same as getting
> sex education from a group of idiots hiding somewhere, inhaling toxic
> smoke, for the fun of it (mostly, purely because it is forbidden and
> unhealthy, making them, more the idiots) - you might get someone who
> knows what they are talking about, and, you may not.
>
> This is a software users mailing list, not a forum for getting the
> advice that should be available from a Certified Practising Accountant,
> and, a Certified Practising Accountant, of Australia, familiar with
> Australian tax law, is the only kind of person, from whom you should be
> seeking the advice that you are seeking, and, the only source of advice
> of which you should heed, other than the advice to go and consult with one.
>
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