[GNC] Forgotten Splits

Sun Apr 7 05:52:48 EDT 2024

Phyllis, 

I have many questions about this issue. 

1. Are you importing the transactions with all their splits defined, and splits within those imported transactions are not actually getting in to the GnuCash data file? 

2. Are you importing a record from another account (for instance, your checking account, which receives a portion of your income) and it fails to register the other splits? 

3. Are you using the auto complete feature to create these transactions, and the resulting transactions aren't getting your updated numbers? 

4. Are you using some other mechanism to get this data into your file? 

For number 1, I'd be surprised that the importer would somehow lose some of the entries upon import--if you had a properly-defined transaction for import. However, I'd also be surprised to find a payroll provider that would present me with an importable income transaction. Correct me if I've misunderstood this. 

For number 2, if you're importing transactions from, say, your checking account provider, I wouldn't expect their records to include all the entries for the various deductions on a paycheck. Their records show one entry for the final amount that came in to them. You have to provide the other values yourself. 

For number 3, auto complete uses the latest version of a transaction as its template. If you have newer transactions in the register already (as hinted at by your comments), GnuCash is going to use the last one. So, if you change one of the earlier transactions to reflect your new values, GnuCash will continue to use the values in the latest transaction. Once you've updated the most recent copy, auto complete should take those values going forward. 

I've encountered this last one many times because I will use auto complete to enter paystubs quickly, and adjust the final deposit only. Months later, I'll go back and figure out why the amount changed, and discover that Payroll changed 3 or 4 different line amounts. That's an annoying circumstance. The options to fix this are: 
* correct the 3 or 4 entries on every paystub, or
* delete all the erroneous transactions, re-enter the first one correctly, and then auto complete the rest correctly. 

I do the first if I've reconciled portions of the past transactions and the second if I haven't. 

If your answer is #4, please provide more info. 

⁣David T. 

On Apr 7, 2024, 6:06 AM, at 6:06 AM, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
>I think that the point Liz tried to make was a memorized transaction
>can be
>designed to be a prototype that can be customized each time by edits
>that
>are easy to make,
>possibly more by deletions of unused splits than by adding splits.
>Further, the memorized transactions can also be edited when they have
>attributes that you don't expect to need again.
>
>I also use the auto-competion feature frequently to fill in lines
>similar
>to lines in previous transactions.
>
>I don't have a problem with GnuCash failing to remember changes when I
>save
>the file right away, or for certain user associated changes I need to
>close
>the program to make those changes stick.
>
>On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 9:39 PM David Carlson
><david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I don't understand.  Are you saying that splits are disappearing from
>your
>> paycheck or from the record in GnuCash?
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 7:27 PM Phyllis Bruce <pobruce46 at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>> Your electric bill splits will change every month.  Mine change once
>a
>>> year so no, though that’s a good idea.   My main concern is that the
>splits
>>> disappear. Hence gnu is not remembering them.  I would expect to
>need to
>>> change them once and be done for another year.
>>>
>>> > On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:11 PM, Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 17:34:26 -0500
>>> > Phyllis Bruce <pobruce46 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Just wanting to vent for a moment.  I have my income with
>multiple
>>> >> splits in gnucash.  Works fine for a while but when they change,
>>> >> gnucash forgets the new splits and the old ones.  I don't
>typically
>>> >> open the imported transactions but noticed some missing from
>another
>>> >> account and I have three months of splits to recreate.  bummer!
>>> >
>>> > For my electricity bill I have a scheduled transaction with four
>>> > splits. Each of the amounts is blank, and I fill them in once the
>bill
>>> > arrives.
>>> > Would that be a useful way for you to account for your income
>splits?
>>> >
>>> > Liz
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