[GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

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Hi, I did try to read the online doc (not the context) and one of the things that would have helped was a notation on which fields were required.  If that info was there, I missed it.  I knew I didn't have them all so I just stubbed in something for everything and then removed them one by one until I found which one caused the commodity message.  After I got the file lined out, it went very smooth.

I was taking QB data and importing it.  On a different import (customer data), I created some formulas which combined many QB fields into one so I wouldn't lose any data.  Made the description (I think) line very long but it took it and I was pleased there was no length restriction.  Looked odd however :)

Anyway, as I said earlier, thanks so much for all of your efforts- a great product & a great community to go with it.

Cheers!
-greg


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From: gnucash-user [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+fromvendor=outtacyte.com at gnucash.org] On Behalf Of John Ralls
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 6:50 PM
Cc: flywire; Gnucash Users
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

As I said, I see that as a documentation issue. The column labels have to be terse and we can’t use per-item tooltips in the long run because the Gtk folks have pulled them from Gtk4. It’s not great that Geert changed the headings for the amount columns from Deposit and Withdrawal to Amount and Amount(negated) but forgot to change the intro screen to reflect it.

The import dialog also lacks a help button. OTOH the context help is so clunky I wonder if anyone would use it. Would you?
Even if you would the actual documentation for importing CSV doesn’t explain all of the column headers and still says Deposit and Withdrawal.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 19, 2024, at 09:22, Greg Julius <greg.julius at outtacyte.com> wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I really struggled with this to figure out what was wrong with my imports.  There is a Commodity field and there is a Currency field.  I had to repeatedly fill in fields until I found the issue was Currency.
> 
> I also think all of you that help/develop this product do a great job.  
> 
> Blessings,
> -greg
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnucash-user [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+fromvendor=outtacyte.com at gnucash.org] On Behalf Of John Ralls
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 10:40 AM
> To: flywire
> Cc: Gnucash Users
> Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2024, at 00:10, flywire <flywire0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 2. An error message displayed "You must choose a commodity" is wrong and should be "You must choose a Security/currency" Choose AUD
>> 
> 
> That’s too narrow an interpretation of “commodity”. Both securities and currencies are commodities, but for example widgets are commodities but are neither securities nor currencies. The error message is correct, what’s apparently lacking is communicating to users the meaning of “commodity”. We’re also guilty of mixed messaging because we call the tool that manages commodities the Security Editor. Both are a larger problem than an error dialog in the CSV importer.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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