[GNC] Finance::Quote failed to initialize

Boniforti Flavio boniforti.f at gmail.com
Sun Oct 6 06:39:28 EDT 2024 

Hi John.

Yes, indeed I used gnc-fq-update.

Do you suggest that I get Perl from Homebrew? If so, do I need to uninstall
the existing Perl installation (which apparently came with MacOS)?

Here's the output of the ls command:

bonny at Flavios-MacBook-Pro ~ % ls ~/.cpan/build

Archive-Any-Lite-0.11-0 HTTP-Daemon-6.16-0 Sereal-Decoder-5.004-0

Archive-Any-Lite-0.11-0.yml HTTP-Daemon-6.16-0.yml
Sereal-Decoder-5.004-0.yml

Array-Diff-0.09-0 JSON-Parse-0.62-0 Sereal-Encoder-5.004-0

Array-Diff-0.09-0.yml JSON-Parse-0.62-0.yml Sereal-Encoder-5.004-0.yml

B-Keywords-1.27-0 Lingua-EN-Inflect-1.905-0 Software-License-0.104006-0

B-Keywords-1.27-0.yml Lingua-EN-Inflect-1.905-0.yml
Software-License-0.104006-0.yml

Config-Tiny-2.30-0 List-SomeUtils-0.59-0 Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.66-0

Config-Tiny-2.30-0.yml List-SomeUtils-0.59-0.yml
Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.66-0.yml

Crypt-RC4-2.02-0 List-SomeUtils-XS-0.58-0 Spreadsheet-XLSX-0.18-0

Crypt-RC4-2.02-0.yml List-SomeUtils-XS-0.58-0.yml
Spreadsheet-XLSX-0.18-0.yml

Data-Binary-0.01-0 MCE-1.900-0 String-Format-1.18-0

Data-Binary-0.01-0.yml MCE-1.900-0.yml String-Format-1.18-0.yml

Data-Section-0.200008-0 Mock-Config-0.03-0 String-Util-1.35-0

Data-Section-0.200008-0.yml Mock-Config-0.03-0.yml String-Util-1.35-0.yml

Date-Manip-6.95-0 Module-CPANTS-Analyse-1.02-0 Test-FailWarnings-0.008-0

Date-Manip-6.95-0.yml Module-CPANTS-Analyse-1.02-0.yml
Test-FailWarnings-0.008-0.yml

Date-Range-1.41-0 Module-CPANfile-1.1004-0 Test-File-1.993-0

Date-Range-1.41-0.yml Module-CPANfile-1.1004-0.yml Test-File-1.993-0.yml

Date-Simple-3.03-0 Mozilla-CA-20240924-0 Test-Inter-1.11-0

Date-Simple-3.03-0.yml Mozilla-CA-20240924-0.yml Test-Inter-1.11-0.yml

DateTime-Format-Builder-0.83-0 Mozilla-PublicSuffix-v1.0.7-0
Test-Kwalitee-1.28-0

DateTime-Format-Builder-0.83-0.yml Mozilla-PublicSuffix-v1.0.7-0.yml
Test-Kwalitee-1.28-0.yml

DateTime-Format-ISO8601-0.16-0 OLE-Storage_Lite-0.22-0 Test-LeakTrace-0.17-0

DateTime-Format-ISO8601-0.16-0.yml OLE-Storage_Lite-0.22-0.yml
Test-LeakTrace-0.17-0.yml

DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.79-0 PPI-1.279-0 Test-LongString-0.17-0

DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.79-0.yml PPI-1.279-0.yml
Test-LongString-0.17-0.yml

DateTime-Locale-1.43-0 PPIx-QuoteLike-0.023-0 Test-More-UTF8-0.05-0

DateTime-Locale-1.43-0.yml PPIx-QuoteLike-0.023-0.yml
Test-More-UTF8-0.05-0.yml

Devel-CheckLib-1.16-0 PPIx-Regexp-0.088-0 Test-NoWarnings-1.06-0

Devel-CheckLib-1.16-0.yml PPIx-Regexp-0.088-0.yml Test-NoWarnings-1.06-0.yml

Devel-Symdump-2.18-0 PPIx-Utils-0.003-0 Test-Perl-Critic-1.04-0

Devel-Symdump-2.18-0.yml PPIx-Utils-0.003-0.yml Test-Perl-Critic-1.04-0.yml

Digest-Perl-MD5-1.9-0 Parse-Distname-0.05-0 Test-Pod-Coverage-1.10-0

Digest-Perl-MD5-1.9-0.yml Parse-Distname-0.05-0.yml
Test-Pod-Coverage-1.10-0.yml

ExtUtils-MakeMaker-CPANfile-0.09-0 Perl-Critic-1.152-0
Test-Simple-1.302204-0

ExtUtils-MakeMaker-CPANfile-0.09-0.yml Perl-Critic-1.152-0.yml
Test-Simple-1.302204-0.yml

File-Find-Object-0.3.8-0 Perl-PrereqScanner-NotQuiteLite-0.9917-0
Test-UseAllModules-0.17-0

File-Find-Object-0.3.8-0.yml Perl-PrereqScanner-NotQuiteLite-0.9917-0.yml
Test-UseAllModules-0.17-0.yml

File-TreeCreate-0.0.1-0 Perl-Tidy-20240903-0 Text-Template-1.61-0

File-TreeCreate-0.0.1-0.yml Perl-Tidy-20240903-0.yml
Text-Template-1.61-0.yml

Finance-Quote-1.63-0 Pod-Coverage-0.23-0 Web-Scraper-0.38-0

Finance-Quote-1.63-0.yml Pod-Coverage-0.23-0.yml Web-Scraper-0.38-0.yml

HTML-Selector-XPath-0.28-0 Pod-Parser-1.67-0 XML-XPathEngine-0.14-0

HTML-Selector-XPath-0.28-0.yml Pod-Parser-1.67-0.yml
XML-XPathEngine-0.14-0.yml

HTML-TableExtract-2.15-0 Pod-Spell-1.26-0 libwww-perl-6.77-0

HTML-TableExtract-2.15-0.yml Pod-Spell-1.26-0.yml libwww-perl-6.77-0.yml

HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.14-0 Readonly-2.05-0 local-lib-2.000029-0

HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath-0.14-0.yml Readonly-2.05-0.yml
local-lib-2.000029-0.yml

HTTP-CookieJar-0.014-0 Regexp-Trie-0.02-0

HTTP-CookieJar-0.014-0.yml Regexp-Trie-0.02-0.yml

Thanks,
F.

https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com


Am So., 6. Okt. 2024 um 00:55 Uhr schrieb John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>:

> Flavio,
>
> Ah, you followed the instructions on
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/fq-install.html, so you
> used gnc-fq-update.
>
> Perl does come with macOS, but it’s not the latest release and some people
> use Homebrew to get it.
>
> The Quote.pms you’ve got aren’t Finance::Quote, so the attempt to install
> it with gnc-fq-update failed.  You ran sudo gnc-fq-update and that created
> a ~/.cpan owned by root, which is why attempting to run cpan Finance::Quote
> bailed with the permission error.
>
> What;s does
>   ls ~/.cpan/build
> report?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
>
> On Oct 5, 2024, at 14:32, Boniforti Flavio <boniforti.f at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John.
> In fact I followed the instructions on that page, but nothing tells me how
> to install JSON::Parse.
> I verified that I had Perl installed and then I proceeded to install
> Finance::Quote as explained there in the Mac paragraph.
>
> I ran the find command you suggested, except for the fact that I had to
> remove "-x" as it wouldn't work with MacOS Sonoma. Anyway, these are the
> places where Quote.pm has been found:
>
> /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.30/Sub/Quote.pm
> /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.30/PPI/Token/Quote.pm
> /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.34/Sub/Quote.pm
> /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.34/PPI/Token/Quote.pm
>
> The output of "which perl" reads "/usr/bin/perl", thus I think that I
> never installed Perl from Homebrew (I think Perl comes with the OS already).
>
> F.
>
> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com
>
>
> Am Sa., 5. Okt. 2024 um 19:18 Uhr schrieb John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>:
>
>> Flavio,
>>
>> That page says the you need perl, JSON::Parse, and Finance::Quote, but it
>> doesn’t say anything about how to get them. What did you do?
>>
>> At this point I think it’s worthwhile to see if you installed
>> Finance::Quote at all. Run
>>   find / -x -name Quote.pm
>> It will take a while, it’s going to search all of your SSD.
>>
>> If you’d used Homebrew to install perl you’ll find it in
>> /opt/homebrew/bin. If you’ve run the Homebrew installer it will have
>> modified your shell startup to place that first in $PATH so that
>>   which perl
>>  would return /opt/homebrew/bin/perl` instead of /usr/bin/perl.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2024, at 01:27, Boniforti Flavio <boniforti.f at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi John.
>> I followed the instructions at:
>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/finance-quote.html
>>
>> I also found this:
>>
>> me at FMacBook-Pro ~ % ls -la /Library/Perl
>> total 0
>> drwxr-xr-x   4 root  wheel   128 Aug  4 12:31 .
>> drwxr-xr-x  69 root  wheel  2208 Aug 18 16:38 ..
>> drwxr-xr-x   3 root  wheel    96 Aug  4 12:31 5.30
>> drwxr-xr-x   3 root  wheel    96 Aug  4 12:31 5.34
>>
>> But both 5.30 and 5.34 directories are almost empty (at least there's no
>> Finance folder in both of them).
>> F.
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
>> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
>> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com
>>
>>
>> Am Fr., 4. Okt. 2024 um 22:17 Uhr schrieb John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us
>> >:
>>
>>> Flavio,
>>>
>>> The almost empty /Library/Perl/5.34/ means that you didn't install
>>> Finance::Quote there. Please link the instructions that you used.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Oct 4, 2024, at 11:18 AM, Boniforti Flavio <boniforti.f at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi John.
>>> > This is the output of the "file" command:
>>> > /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash: Mach-O 64-bit
>>> executable arm64
>>> >
>>> > And these the contents of the Perl library path - I think there's
>>> something missing:
>>> >
>>> > me at MacBook-Pro ~ % ls -la /Library/Perl/5.34
>>> > total 0
>>> > drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel   96 Aug  4 12:31 .
>>> > drwxr-xr-x  4 root  wheel  128 Aug  4 12:31 ..
>>> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   33 Aug  4 12:31 AppendToPath
>>> >
>>> > What do you suggest next?
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > F.
>>> >
>>> > https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
>>> > https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
>>> > https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Am Do., 3. Okt. 2024 um 21:22 Uhr schrieb John Ralls <
>>> jralls at ceridwen.us>:
>>> > Flavio,
>>> >
>>> > I bet HomeBrew didn’t pick up the Apple Silicon build, but to make
>>> sure you can run
>>> >    file /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash
>>> > Which will return something like
>>> >   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash: Mach-O 64-bit
>>> executable x86_64
>>> > For an Intel build; the end will be arm64e for an Apple Silicon one.
>>> If it’s an Intel build the simpler option is to get the Apple Silicon build
>>> from https;//www.gnucash.org, but if you’d rather not you’ll have to
>>> reinstall Finance::Quote, see
>>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Installing_Finance::Quote_on_macOS_from_a_Terminal_prompt
>>> .
>>> >
>>> > That doesn’t explain why perldoc can’t find Finance::Quote though.
>>> Does /Library/Perl/5.34/Finance/Quote.pm exist?
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > John Ralls
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Oct 2, 2024, at 21:45, Boniforti Flavio <boniforti.f at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi John.
>>> >> I installed GnuCash with HomeBrew. I did not manually install Perl -
>>> it was already there:
>>> >>
>>> >> me at MacBook-Pro ~ % perl -v
>>> >>
>>> >> This is perl 5, version 34, subversion 1 (v5.34.1) built for
>>> darwin-thread-multi-2level
>>> >> (with 2 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)
>>> >>
>>> >> Copyright 1987-2022, Larry Wall
>>> >>
>>> >> Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic
>>> License or the
>>> >> GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source
>>> kit.
>>> >>
>>> >> Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found
>>> on
>>> >> this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl".  If you have access
>>> to the
>>> >> Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home
>>> Page.
>>> >>
>>> >> My MBP is an M1.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for helping,
>>> >> F.
>>> >>
>>> >> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
>>> >> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
>>> >> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Am Do., 3. Okt. 2024 um 01:13 Uhr schrieb John Ralls <
>>> jralls at ceridwen.us>:
>>> >> Flavio,
>>> >>
>>> >> What did you actually do? Do you by any chance have a perl installed
>>> that isn’t from Apple, perhaps HomeBrew or MacPorts? Is your MBP an Intel
>>> or Apple Silicon one and did you install the GnuCash that matches the
>>> architecture?
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> John Ralls
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Oct 2, 2024, at 12:03, Boniforti Flavio <boniforti.f at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi all.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On MacOS Sonoma 14.6.1 I've just followed the instructions from the
>>> GnuCash
>>> >> > documentation to install the Finance::Quote module.
>>> >> > After finishing without errors, I tried to use it but it won't
>>> initialize -
>>> >> > see here:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > me at MacBook-Pro ~ %
>>> >> >
>>> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q
>>> >> > info
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Application Path
>>> >> >
>>> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules Finance::Quote
>>> >> > JSON::Parse
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Even Perl doesn't know about its existence:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > me at MacBook-Pro ~ % perldoc Finance::Quote
>>> >> >
>>> >> > No documentation found for "Finance::Quote".
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Is anybody able to help me understand what's gone wrong and how to
>>> fix it?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> > F.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
>>> >> > https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
>>> >> > https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com
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