[GNC] Vested and Un-Vested Stocks

[John Ralls]

That’s out of scope for GnuCash. 

Regards,
John Ralls

> On 7 Apr 2025, at 10:12, Murugan Mariappan <m.muruganandam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> GNUCash should implement a Contingent GL feature. This shadow ledger would track unrealized items like unvested options and non-performing asset accruals without affecting real book balances.
> Benefits include:
> 
>  *   Modeling future financials.
>  *   Improved forecasting and analysis.
>  *   Clear separation from realized transactions.
>  *   Enhanced internal control over potential items.
> 
> A Contingent GL offers accountants better control and a comprehensive view, improving financial management in GNUCash for complex scenarios.
> 
> 
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> 
> Saludos Cordiales
> 
> 
> Murugan
> 
> ________________________________
> From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+m.muruganandam=hotmail.com at gnucash.org> on behalf of Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Sent: 06 April 2025 21:29
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Vested and Un-Vested Stocks
> 
> OK, the USUAL situation with things like this that a conditional
> liability is involved. You got something NOW but would be required to
> give it back under certain conditions. In other words, this asset comes
> with a conditional liability.
> 
> ONE way is to enter a "journal transaction" when received, debiting
> equity and crediting the liability. Then each time vesting occurs,
> another journal transaction debiting that liability and crediting equity
> for the amount that became vested. You could handle "split dollar"
> insurance the same way, and here having a clear picture of the liability
> could be very useful as there are options*
> 
> Michael D Novack
> 
> * At termination, you get to choose. Surrender the policy keeping the
> difference between cash value and the premiums owed OR buy the policy by
> paying the premiums owed. That latter could be a good deal if your
> health very poor at that time.
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/6/2025 6:20 PM, flywire wrote:
>> Let's kick this off...
>> 
>> Say you have an Assets:Brokerage Account:Stock:AMZN account from  (
>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/invest-setup1.html#invest-setup-example2
>> ). Maybe use an Assets:Unvested:Stock:AMZN account and transfer them when
>> they vest. Unvested stock may never vest so they are not really worth
>> anything in the Balance Sheet. The value is either zero or vested value *
>> vesting risk (depending on the purpose of your books). If they are given a
>> non-zero value the account could be excluded from the Balance Sheet.
>> 
>> Updating share (stock) value manually at the end of each financial year
>> works well for me.
>> 
>> Regards
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