[GNC] e-invoicing ?

[John Ralls]

David,

Good to know. What are the registration requirements, is it the end user or the software provider who has to register, and once whoever has registered what’s the authentication process to prove that you’re who you say you are?

Would it be feasible to handle this the way some UK users are doing MTD, where there are services where one can upload a properly formatted document that GnuCash creates with a report?

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Mar 6, 2025, at 18:59, David Cousens <davidcousens49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Liz, Pascal, John,
> 
> 
> PEPPOL is in use in Australia.
> (https://www.ato.gov.au/businesses-and-organisations/einvoicing/einvoicing-for-businesses#ato-RegisterforeInvoicing)
> 
> It is currently primarily for large scale government-business (where it
> will likely be mandatory first) and business-business transactions
> associated with procurement although there is a guide for small
> business as well however it is not mandatory for small businesses at
> this stage and may not be.  There is a register of software currently
> available linked from that page (inc SAP,Xero, MYOB, Reckon etc) which
> is ready to use the protocol.
> 
> The standard document XML formats for AU/NZ are listed on a github
> https://github.com/A-NZ-PEPPOL/A-NZ-PEPPOL-BIS-3.0/blob/master/Message%20examples/AU%20Order%20Agreement.xml
> 
> There are some open source links to software for AS4 access to the
> PEPPOL network. Both the invoice originator and the recipient have to
> be registered with that network.
> 
> I've taken a quick look at the HOLODECK server setup. You can setup two
> instances of its server on different ports on the same computer and use
> them to talk to one another.  Good for getting familiarity if you don't
> mind talking to youself.  
> 
> I have a bit of time waiting for cyclone Alfred to hit us in Brisbane
> in the next  18-24 hrs so I will have a play to ease the stress of
> waiting.
> 
> Might experiment a bit with sending sample messages from the AU formats
> site above.  I presume what will be required from an application will
> be to export the message files in XML format to the server (they are
> put into an input folder from which they are sent automatically) and
> interpret any messages which appear in the output folder of the server.
> The server seems to provide some of the business level information
> (whose sending, whose receiving etc) so it may be possible that all
> GnuCash would need is the abiltiy to export a correctly formatted XML
> file and interpret and import the received XML file,.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 19:54 +1100, Liz wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:34:28 +0100
>> Pascal Standaert <pascalstandaert at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm looking into switching to Gnucash for my accounting, but I have
>>> some worries about the mandatory e-invoicing which is being rolled
>>> out over Europe ...
>>> 
>>> https://www.storecove.com/blog/en/peppol-countries/
>>> 
>>> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/display/DIGITAL/Obtaining+a+copy+of+the+European+standard+on+eInvoicing
>>> 
>>> ... wil Gnucash be able to do this UBL format xml for e-invoicing ?
>>> 
>>> if not, it would be shear useless to try set it up ... because here
>>> in Belgium this e-invoicing (peppol) wil be mandatory from january
>>> 1st 2026 ...
>> 
>> Storecove says PEPPOL is in use in Australia. I've never heard of it,
>> and am certainly not using it to invoice anyone.
>> 
>> The ATO tells me that Australia has adopted it as a framework. The
>> storecove link tells me its mandatory, and I know that it isn't.
>> https://www.ato.gov.au/businesses-and-organisations/einvoicing/what-is-einvoicing
>> 
>> Point? Storecove is not correct there, so are they correct elsewhere?
>> 
>> For your concern, one of our developers is resident in Belgium and
>> will
>> be aware of these hurdles to use of Gnucash.
>> 
>> Liz
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