[GNC] Received e-mails in Spams (bad e-mail server configuration / ML configuration)

[* Neustradamus *]

Dear all, thanks for your answers,

Note: I have always recent e-mails in Junk Emails/Spams folder.

Sorry, I have forgotten in more SPF/DKIM/DMARC standards, there are Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) and BIMI too.
I have added all standard links after.

The goal is to have good settings and not good automatic e-mails in Junk Emails/Spams folder, all e-mail servers must to respect it.

If other e-mail servers administrators read me, please do same.

In this gnucash.org case, where I can send full mail logs to fix this problem (in all lists)?
- https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo
Who manage the gnucash e-mail server?

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For informations: The standards are here:

RFC 7208: Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for Authorizing Use of Domains in Email, Version 1
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7208

RFC 6376: DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Signatures
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6376

RFC 7489: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance (DMARC)
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7489

RFC 8617: The Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) Protocol
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8617

I-Draft (not yet a RFC but already implemented in several projects/softwares/companies): Brand Indicators for Message Identification (BIMI)
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brand-indicators-for-message-identification/
- https://bimigroup.org/

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To test the e-mail server: SPF/DKIM/DMARC/BIMI (no test for ARC):
- https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx

Google search about mailman/postfix and SPF/DKIM/DMARC/ARC/BIMI:
- https://www.google.com/search?q=mailman+SPF+DKIM+DMARC+ARC
- https://www.google.com/search?q=postfix+SPF+DKIM+DMARC+ARC
- https://www.google.com/search?q=postfix+BIMI

Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards,

Neustradamus

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From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+neustradamus=hotmail.com at gnucash.org> on behalf of Harold Hallikainen via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2025 06:42
To: sunfish62 at yahoo.com
Cc: gnucash-devel at gnucash.org; gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Received e-mails in Spams (bad e-mail server configuration / ML configuration)

I do just SPF and DMARC, both of which are on the dns server. That seems
to work. Dkim looks more complicated sibce it created by the mail server
for each message. Spf and dmarc wirk for me. Good luck

Harold
Https://w6iwi.org


On Fri, November 7, 2025 9:49 pm, sunfish62 at yahoo.com wrote:
> Thank you for this. A little searching shows that DMARC needs both SPF
> and DKIM, and the header below shows that the DKIM signature did not
> verify. I'm not sure how difficult correcting this problem would be for
> the mailing list sysops.
>
> ⁣David T. ​
>
> On Nov 8, 2025, 6:00 AM, at 6:00 AM, Harold Hallikainen via
> gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>> A lot of email servers want SPF and DMARC. The headers are showing SPF
>> passed, but DMARC failed. Mxtoolbox.com is a great way to see why emails
>> fsil.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, November 7, 2025 5:16 pm, David Carlson wrote:
>>
>>> I think the problem is not with the GnuCash maillist, but with your
>>>
>> email
>>> service.  When an email that you consider to not be spam ends up in
>> your
>>> spam folder, there should be a way to tell your provider that you do
>> not
>>> consider it to be spam.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 6:46 PM * Neustradamus *
>>> <neustradamus at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear GnuCash team,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you solve the problem of e-mails always detected in "Junk
>>>> Emails"/"Spams" folder?
>>>> SPF/DKIM/DMARC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For example, a part of logs:
>>>> ...
>>>> ARC-Seal: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector10001; d=microsoft.com;
>>>> cv=fail; ... ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; mx.microsoft.com 1;
>>>> spf=pass
>> (sender ip
>>
>>>> is XXX.XXX.XXX.XX) smtp.rcpttodomain=hotmail.com
>>>> smtp.mailfrom=gnucash.org; dmarc=fail (p=none sp=quarantine
>>>> pct=100) action=none header.from=outlook.com; dkim=fail (signature
>>>> did not verify) header.d=outlook.com; arc=fail (47) ...
>>>> Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is XXX.XXX.XXX.XX)
>>>> smtp.mailfrom=gnucash.org; dkim=fail (signature did not verify)
>>>> header.d=outlook.com;dmarc=fail action=none
>>>> header.from=outlook.com; Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com:
>>>> domain of gnucash.org designates XXX.XXX.XXX.XX as permitted sender)
>>>>  receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=XXX.XXX.XXX.XX;
>>>> helo=code.gnucash.org; pr=C ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neustradamus
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