[GNC] Linux Crashes Not.
Mike Brasler
mike at gilana.org
Tue Oct 14 12:22:29 EDT 2025
FWIW, I am running GnuCASH V.5.5 NON FLATPAK on
Kernel: 6.8.0-85-generic arch: x86_64
Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.4.8
Distro: Linux Mint 22.1 Xia base: Ubuntu 24.04 noble
Touch Wood - No problems.
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Mike and Laura Brasler
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On 13/10/2025 18:13, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
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> 1. Re: Gnucash Crash (Gyle McCollam)
> 2. Re: Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> (John Ralls)
> 3. Re: Regular crashes on Linux Mint when assigning payment
> (John Ralls)
> 4. Re: Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> (Brook Milligan)
> 5. Re: Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> (Sherlock)
> 6. Re: Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> (Adrien Monteleone)
> 7. Finance::Quote 1.67 to be released 10/18/2025 (Bruce Schuck)
> 8. Re: Updated from 5.12 to 5.13 but cannot open GNUCASH any
> longer (John Ralls)
> 9. Re: Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> (Adrien Monteleone)
> 10. Re: Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 16:27:02 +0000
> From: Gyle McCollam<gmccollam at live.com>
> To: Liz<edodd at billiau.net>,"gnucash-user at gnucash.org"
> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash Crash
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> Thank You for the suggestion. I have downloaded the nightly build and will find out if the fix worked in about 2 weeks when I do my next import and reconciliation. It is easy enough to revert to 5.12 if there is a problem, as I only have to install from the downloaded file.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccollam at live.com<mailto:gmccollam at gyleshomes.com> email
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> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2025 6:47 PM
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> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash Crash
>
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 14:36:17 -0700
> Sherlock Holmes<sh025622 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gyle,
>>
>>
>> It means that if you download the next nightly build on Windows from
>> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/stable/ the issue you raised in
>> 5.13 should be resolved.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Sherlock
> Can I add to this
>
> If possible could you download the next nightly build and use somewhere
> separate from your regular Gnucash install so you can test if the
> problem is resolved.
> I can't advise on where to put the nightly build on Windows so as not
> to interfere with what you have working now.
>
> Liz
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> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 09:43:58 -0700
> From: John Ralls<jralls at ceridwen.us>
> To: "David T."<sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> Cc:gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> Message-ID:<7E62FA75-E8C6-4CD2-BEBA-9552F96BD360 at ceridwen.us>
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> The original idea was by storing the saved report configs separately they could be applied to more than one book as long as the account names were either not customized or the same in both books. We broke the latter half of that assumption in 3.x by using the account guids instead of names because users complained that the saved configs broke when they changed an account name.
>
> As for failed backups, it seems you?re very lucky that the backup for your data directory was working.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>> On Oct 13, 2025, at 05:09, David T. via gnucash-user<gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>
>> This request has been made many times, but the developer pool doesn't have the staffing to reconstruct the base system to implement this.
>>
>> David T.
>>
>> On 10/13/2025 4:31 PM, Steve Miller wrote:
>>> That suggestion has always been on my "wish" list. As it stands now I use
>>> batch files (I'm on Windows 11) to update each of my 3 laptops with the
>>> updated saved report file. Would be easier, obviously. if your suggestion
>>> was implemented.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 3:18?AM Valentin Chatelard <
>>> chatelard.valentin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Any reason why custom reports configs are not saved within gnucash file ?
>>>> It makes it harder to sync between multiple workstations, it requires
>>>> specific backup settings on each location to make sure to not loose it.
>>>>
>>>> Last week a bios update required me to reinstall windows (loosing those
>>>> reports because backups was falling without I noticed it before), and ssd
>>>> crashed on the other.
>>>>
>>>> So I have been loosing all my reports configurations... which would be
>>>> nice to be able to save within the gnucash file (either let user the choice
>>>> if better).
>>>>
>>>> What's your opinion about it ?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Valentin
>>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 09:57:18 -0700
> From: John Ralls<jralls at ceridwen.us>
> To: James Thorpe<James at fusionsystems.co.za>
> Cc: GnuCash users group<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Regular crashes on Linux Mint when assigning
> payment
> Message-ID:<82370B82-0047-4695-AC22-A5EB39847105 at ceridwen.us>
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> OK, something strange is going on. Can you repeat the exercise a couple more times and see if you always get the same error and stack trace?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>> On Oct 13, 2025, at 00:21, James Thorpe<James at fusionsystems.co.za> wrote:
>>
>> In answer to your questions:
>>
>> No - I don't have auto-save enabled. I save pretty often when I've done something right and deliberately don't auto-save in case something goes wrong so it's easy to recover to a previous point.
>>
>> And yes, the error occurs when I assign payment from register... specifically at the point where I click the "OK" after selecting a customer and invoice.
>>
>> I am working with a network file... which means the previous save could on occasion be delayed a little I suppose if that action is in a different thread and it could be in the middle of trying to save when I perform the assign as payment bit?? Could that be it? I could test by a) working with a local file and seeing if the error does/ doesn't recur or b) waiting a longer time between saves before assigning a payment.
>>
>> On 2025/10/11 20:09, John Ralls wrote:
>>> Interesting. The segfault in gtk_widget_show has nothing whatever to do with the stack trace, which is deep in the midst of saving your file. In the stack trace (which I?ve extracted below to show the proximate cause) the XML backend is trying to create a new text session with the value ?string? and the memory allocator encounters a corrupted chunk in its accounting. The most likely cause of that would be something writing to memory that doesn?t belong to it. The gtk_widget_show segfault is a read, so it?s not to blame.
>>>
>>> Do you have auto-save enabled and might it have fired while you were in the middle of assigning the payment? And to make sure I?m looking at the right place, this is assign as payment from a transaction in the register, right?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2025, at 08:09, James Thorpe<James at fusionsystems.co.za> <mailto:James at fusionsystems.co.za> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thread 1 "gnucash" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
>>>> 0x00007ffff7712f33 in gtk_widget_show (widget=0x5555560b01f0) at ../gtk/gtkwidget.c:4834
>>>> 4834 g_return_if_fail (GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget));
>>>>
>>>> Here is the stack trace - I hope it means something to someone
>>>>
>>>> --- BEGIN STACK TRACE ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> #5 0x00007041794a5765 in malloc_printerr (str=str at entry=0x7041795b9fd3 "corrupted size vs. prev_size") at malloc.c:5772
>>>> --Type <RET> for more, q to quit, c to continue without paging--c
>>>> #6 0x00007041794a6126 in unlink_chunk (p=p at entry=0x56046304e600, av=0x7041795f1ac0 <main_arena>) at malloc.c:1611
>>>> fd = <optimized out>
>>>> bk = <optimized out>
>>>> #7 0x00007041794a915a in _int_malloc (av=av at entry=0x7041795f1ac0 <main_arena>, bytes=bytes at entry=120) at malloc.c:4381
>>>> p = <optimized out>
>>>> iters = <optimized out>
>>>> nb = <optimized out>
>>>> idx = <optimized out>
>>>> bin = <optimized out>
>>>> victim = 0x56046304e600
>>>> size = 1104
>>>> victim_index = <optimized out>
>>>> remainder = <optimized out>
>>>> remainder_size = 976
>>>> block = <optimized out>
>>>> bit = <optimized out>
>>>> map = <optimized out>
>>>> fwd = <optimized out>
>>>> bck = <optimized out>
>>>> tcache_unsorted_count = <optimized out>
>>>> tcache_nb = <optimized out>
>>>> tc_idx = 6
>>>> return_cached = <optimized out>
>>>> #8 0x00007041794a9db4 in __GI___libc_malloc (bytes=120) at malloc.c:3336
>>>> ar_ptr = 0x7041795f1ac0 <main_arena>
>>>> victim = <optimized out>
>>>> tbytes = <optimized out>
>>>> tc_idx = <optimized out>
>>>> #9 0x00007041792a7d4c in xmlNewText (content=content at entry=0x70417859e64c "string") at ../tree.c:2303
>>>> cur = <optimized out>
>>>>
>> --
>> --
>> James Thorpe
>> 061 476 2775
>> James at fusionsystems.co.za <mailto:James at fusionsystems.co.za>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:03:59 -0600
> From: Brook Milligan<brook at biology.nmsu.edu>
> To: John Ralls<jralls at ceridwen.us>
> Cc: "David T."<sunfish62 at yahoo.com>,gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> Message-ID:<73F577E2-0429-44FA-8658-2EEA8BBE94DF at biology.nmsu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>> On Oct 13, 2025, at 10:43, John Ralls<jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>
>> The original idea was by storing the saved report configs separately they could be applied to more than one book as long as the account names were either not customized or the same in both books. We broke the latter half of that assumption in 3.x by using the account guids instead of names because users complained that the saved configs broke when they changed an account name.
> This suggests that there is no benefit to storing report configs separately, right?
>
> What is required to store them in each book? Does an export/import config option make sense for transfering them between books?
>
> Cheers,
> Brook
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 12:52:48 -0700
> From: Sherlock<sh025622 at gmail.com>
> To:gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> Message-ID:<10cjlah$2ge$1 at ciao.gmane.io>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> I actually prefer the separation of the data from the model. It does
> mean there are more files to manage (backup, restore, and synchronize)
> but it's not too difficult once you know you to do it. There are a
> variety of file management tools available (beyond the scope of GnuCash)
> that can help.
>
> For example, consider the work you might need to do if you wanted to
> revert a set of changes made to a saved report over a few months. If
> you had to restore the data file, you would also revert the data you
> entered. Compare that to restoring the saved-reports-2.8 file.
>
> https://lists.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations
>
> Regards,
>
> Sherlock
>
> On 10/13/25 9:43 AM, John Ralls wrote:
>> The original idea was by storing the saved report configs separately they could be applied to more than one book as long as the account names were either not customized or the same in both books. We broke the latter half of that assumption in 3.x by using the account guids instead of names because users complained that the saved configs broke when they changed an account name.
>>
>> As for failed backups, it seems you?re very lucky that the backup for your data directory was working.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2025, at 05:09, David T. via gnucash-user<gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> This request has been made many times, but the developer pool doesn't have the staffing to reconstruct the base system to implement this.
>>>
>>> David T.
>>>
>>> On 10/13/2025 4:31 PM, Steve Miller wrote:
>>>> That suggestion has always been on my "wish" list. As it stands now I use
>>>> batch files (I'm on Windows 11) to update each of my 3 laptops with the
>>>> updated saved report file. Would be easier, obviously. if your suggestion
>>>> was implemented.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 3:18?AM Valentin Chatelard <
>>>> chatelard.valentin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Any reason why custom reports configs are not saved within gnucash file ?
>>>>> It makes it harder to sync between multiple workstations, it requires
>>>>> specific backup settings on each location to make sure to not loose it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last week a bios update required me to reinstall windows (loosing those
>>>>> reports because backups was falling without I noticed it before), and ssd
>>>>> crashed on the other.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I have been loosing all my reports configurations... which would be
>>>>> nice to be able to save within the gnucash file (either let user the choice
>>>>> if better).
>>>>>
>>>>> What's your opinion about it ?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Valentin
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:00:12 -0500
> From: Adrien Monteleone<adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To:gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> Message-ID:<10cjlol$12g1$1 at ciao.gmane.io>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> There is still a use case for keeping them separate.
>
> Someone using a previously copied file can share the report configs.
> Some folks might do this year to year, others may do it as a
> multi-computer solution rather than using a network drive.
>
> Export/Import would likely be a required part of storing them in the
> book file itself to maintain present functionality some users rely on.
> That will of course add to the work needed to make that happen, and
> there would need to be a compelling reason.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 10/13/25 2:03 PM, Brook Milligan via gnucash-user wrote:
>> This suggests that there is no benefit to storing report configs separately, right?
>>
>> What is required to store them in each book? Does an export/import config option make sense for transfering them between books?
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:01:09 -0700
> From: Bruce Schuck<bschuck at asgard-systems.com>
> To: GnuCash User eMail List<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: [GNC] Finance::Quote 1.67 to be released 10/18/2025
> Message-ID:<4f19d47a-df5b-46be-bbc6-49a5e76da144 at asgard-systems.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hello all,
>
> Barring any major issues before then, I will probably push
> Finance::Quote 1.67 to CPAN sometime this Saturday, 10/18/2025.
>
> Bruce S
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:03:19 -0700
> From: John Ralls<jralls at ceridwen.us>
> To: R Losey<rlosey at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ken Pyzik<pyz01 at outlook.com>,"gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org"
> <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>,"adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net"
> <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Updated from 5.12 to 5.13 but cannot open GNUCASH
> any longer
> Message-ID:<928AB8EA-E733-4E48-85F8-E1057491CAE8 at ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> This problem was discussed and solved in another thread, seehttps://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2025-October/117826.html.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
>> On Oct 7, 2025, at 07:59, R Losey<rlosey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'll note that I have Windows 10 and 5.13 is installed and seems to be
>> working fine (I haven't done much on it since I installed 5.13).
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 9:43?AM Ken Pyzik<pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to be clear, this error does not present itself on all Windows
>>> installations.
>>>
>>> I have Windows 11 and version 5.13 installed and it is working perfectly.
>>> Also, one individual commented that he had three different Windows 11
>>> configurations (one chip supported Windows 11 laptop, one unsupported chip
>>> windows 11 laptop and one unsupported Windows 11 desktop) and two of the
>>> three were working. The one that did not work was a specific laptop
>>> (unsupported Windows 11 chip) by a specific hardware manufacturer.
>>>
>>> Based upon this information, the bug seems to be related to specific older
>>> Windows 11 (or Windows 10) configurations on specific chipsets. But this
>>> is only a guess by me. Based upon my limited experiences - Windows 11
>>> fully supported chipset - Gnucash seems to be installing and working fine.
>>>
>>> Go figure!
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: gnucash-user<gnucash-user-bounces+pyz01=outlook.com at gnucash.org>
>>> on behalf of Adrien Monteleone<adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 6, 2025 7:08 AM
>>> To:gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Updated from 5.12 to 5.13 but cannot open GNUCASH any
>>> longer
>>>
>>> Joseph,
>>>
>>> Those errors are also reported in another thread titled "GnuCash v5.13
>>> doesn't start and I can't reachhttps://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bugzilla".
>>>
>>> Though it does get a bit technical, you can follow along there.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, you can fall back to 5.12 to get work done.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>>>
>>> On 10/5/25 3:06 PM, Joseph Hymel via gnucash-user wrote:
>>>> Running Win 10 on desktop
>>>> I installed 5.13 just as I done every time for over 6 years now. After
>>> install completed and I tried to open GNUCASH, I got these two notification
>>> message boxes:
>>>> "The procedure entry point clock_gettime32 could not be locatedin the
>>> dynamic link library c:\\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\libstdc++-6.dll"
>>>> "The procedure entry point pthread_cond_timedwait32 could not be located
>>> in the dynamic link library C:\Program Files
>>> (x86)\gnucash\bin\libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0.dll"
>>>> I have a backup copy of all the files generated after each use of
>>> gnucash on daily basis. I need help and am not a computer technical expert.
>>> I am just a user of gnucash.
>>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:01:23 -0500
> From: Adrien Monteleone<adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To:gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> Message-ID:<10cjlqs$12g1$2 at ciao.gmane.io>
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> Excellent point.
>
> I prefer them separate as well.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 10/13/25 2:52 PM, Sherlock wrote:
>> For example, consider the work you might need to do if you wanted to
>> revert a set of changes made to a saved report over a few months.? If
>> you had to restore the data file, you would also revert the data you
>> entered.? Compare that to restoring the saved-reports-2.8 file.
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 16:13:52 -0700
> From: "Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)"<stan+gc at fastmail.fm>
> To:gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Any reason reports are not stored in gnucash file ?
> Message-ID:<cea6b2eb-a52b-4a99-b373-58ffd7691bb5 at fastmail.fm>
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>
> On 2025-10-13 12:03, Brook Milligan via gnucash-user wrote:
>>> On Oct 13, 2025, at 10:43, John Ralls<jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>> The original idea was by storing the saved report configs
>>> separately they could be applied to more than one book as long
>>> as the account names were either not customized or the same
>>> in both books. We broke the latter half of that assumption in
>>> 3.x by using the account guids instead of names because users
>>> complained that the saved configs broke when they changed an
>>> account name.
>> This suggests that there is no benefit to storing report configs
>> separately, right?>
>> What is required to store them in each book? Does an export/import
>> config option make sense for transferring them between books?
> Rather than store them in the book (main data file), why not in the GCM
> file, which already holds configurations of registers, the general
> journal, and the Accounts tab? That information is already on a per-book
> basis, one GCM file per book file. And then there would be no collision
> with the data file's present auto-save logic.
>
> Or the saved report configurations could be stored in a {book}.reports
> file in the books directory. Then import and export would require no
> code at all; the user would simply copy {book1.reports} to {book2}.reports.
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com/
>
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