From stepbystepfarm at comcast.net  Fri May  1 08:48:14 2026
From: stepbystepfarm at comcast.net (Michael or Penny Novack)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 08:48:14 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Starting from Scratch
In-Reply-To: <2452fd47-84d8-4e0d-9a59-b126a928d34f@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.1.1777564801.28921.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <2452fd47-84d8-4e0d-9a59-b126a928d34f@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <7382740f-daf0-43d4-bd38-82c8523b3087@comcast.net>

But do consider (when switching to gnucash)

In the "old days" (500+ years ago till maybe the last 50) "books" were 
kept in literal books, bound volumes and usually being closed at the end 
of the year and a new volume started for the next.

So as long as you would be able to access your old data (pre gnucash) 
there is no need to import all that old data to gnucash.

You can just start gnucash books using the last Balance Sheet (of the 
old way). Then when later you want to look at prior data, if before that 
date you use the old way and for after that date you use gnucash.

Yes, maybe not as convenient as having it all on gnucash. But really, 
how often are you going to be wanting to look at old data. But do note, 
this assumes that you DID export and save the critical reports from your 
old system. Things like the year end P&Ls and Balance Sheets. I would 
expect 90+% of the time you want to look at old data it will be on one 
or the other of those. << suggestion -- do the same with gnucash, SAVE 
those reports outside of gnucash >>

Michael D Novack



From samuelopen30 at gmail.com  Fri May  1 09:47:50 2026
From: samuelopen30 at gmail.com (samuelopen30 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 09:47:50 -0400
Subject: [GNC] =?utf-8?b?SG90b3bDqSDFmWXFoWVuw60gayB2YcWhw60gcG9wdMOhdmNl?=
	=?utf-8?q?=3A_moving_GnuCash_5=2E12_from_Windows_10_to_Windows_11?=
Message-ID: <CAEj+wHsY5RpAy8R9TwjYm6tUqb4BT1fwc-9XSCF38KSm7QxzTg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I saw the public request about moving a full GnuCash 5.12 setup from a
Windows 10 computer to a Windows 11 laptop after trying CSV exports.

I prepared a finished solution right away. The safe path is this:

   1. Do not rebuild the book from exported CSV files.
   2. Copy the original main GnuCash book file from the old computer to the
   new one.
   Usually this is the file ending in .gnucash.
   3. Install the same major GnuCash version on the Windows 11 laptop.
   4. In GnuCash on the new machine, use File -> Open and open that copied
   book file directly.
   5. If you also want saved reports and related settings, copy the related
   GnuCash config/report files as well, especially saved report data and any
   .gcm related settings.
   6. Keep the original file untouched until the copied one is confirmed to
   open correctly.

What not to do:
- do not try to recreate years of data from CSV exports
- do not rely on .log files as the main backup

This matches the official GnuCash migration and backup guidance:
- migration:
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/basics-migrate-settings.html
- backup: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup
- FAQ: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ

I am a student and I earn some extra money this way. If the solution helps
you and you decide to use it, I would be grateful for any amount you think
is fair.

Bank account: 721092005/5500
Payment reference: GnuCash migration

Source request:
https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user at gnucash.org/msg48332.html

Best regards,
Samuel O.

From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Sat May  2 04:41:55 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2026 09:41:55 +0100
Subject: [GNC] 
	=?utf-8?b?SG90b3bDqSDFmWXFoWVuw60gayB2YcWhw60gcG9wdMOhdmNl?=
	=?utf-8?q?=3A_moving_GnuCash_5=2E12_from_Windows_10_to_Windows_11?=
In-Reply-To: <CAEj+wHsY5RpAy8R9TwjYm6tUqb4BT1fwc-9XSCF38KSm7QxzTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj+wHsY5RpAy8R9TwjYm6tUqb4BT1fwc-9XSCF38KSm7QxzTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP-7JQ7esCx-TPYKoWPZp0H1sZfRJfphV2su_+XSx-uddA2ctw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Samuel,

Even the guide online says the answer is to just send the .gnucash file
over, so I?m not sure what problem you?re trying to solve here?

I don?t want to disrespect you, but asking for donations for copying and
pasting a file for a GNU project is perhaps not in keeping with the
community values

On Sat, 2 May 2026 at 08:20, <samuelopen30 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I saw the public request about moving a full GnuCash 5.12 setup from a
> Windows 10 computer to a Windows 11 laptop after trying CSV exports.
>
> I prepared a finished solution right away. The safe path is this:
>
>    1. Do not rebuild the book from exported CSV files.
>    2. Copy the original main GnuCash book file from the old computer to the
>    new one.
>    Usually this is the file ending in .gnucash.
>    3. Install the same major GnuCash version on the Windows 11 laptop.
>    4. In GnuCash on the new machine, use File -> Open and open that copied
>    book file directly.
>    5. If you also want saved reports and related settings, copy the related
>    GnuCash config/report files as well, especially saved report data and
> any
>    .gcm related settings.
>    6. Keep the original file untouched until the copied one is confirmed to
>    open correctly.
>
> What not to do:
> - do not try to recreate years of data from CSV exports
> - do not rely on .log files as the main backup
>
> This matches the official GnuCash migration and backup guidance:
> - migration:
>
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/basics-migrate-settings.html
> - backup: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup
> - FAQ: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ
>
> I am a student and I earn some extra money this way. If the solution helps
> you and you decide to use it, I would be grateful for any amount you think
> is fair.
>
> Bank account: 721092005/5500
> Payment reference: GnuCash migration
>
> Source request:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user at gnucash.org/msg48332.html
>
> Best regards,
> Samuel O.
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From nhrdls at gmail.com  Sat May  2 12:05:55 2026
From: nhrdls at gmail.com (NH Rao)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2026 09:05:55 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Using libgnc-engine.so
Message-ID: <CAMhNmM-w+wfb_WkCDGOFC1s59uVyqAFjMjeY7i9ByuPV2GkH6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

Everything on Ubuntu 24.04 if that matters.

I am experimenting with (relatively new) Java FFM API which allows
interacting with shared  libraries using Java. I wanted to see if I can use
gnucash API to coax some information I care about in the format I
want. I've cloned gnucash sources and using it as a reference.

So far I have successfully managed to generate Java bindings but struggling
with basic operation sequences. I am using some of the tests e.g.
gtest-load-save-files.cpp as an example of how operations are being done.

I am getting an error 'failed to get_backend using access method "file"'
when trying to open the file whether I provide URI format like file:// or
just absolute path. At this moment, the file does not exist and I was
hoping to save a newly created file.

Essentially the order of operations is as follows even though it has all
the Java syntax tagged.

qof_init()
book = qof_book_new()
session = qof_session_new(book)
qof_sesson_begin(session, "file path", SESSION_NEW_STORE)

Can you please suggest what I am doing wrong and why I am getting
the errors. Looks like I forgot to do some basic steps.

Regards,
Niranjan

From joe.davis at carouselschool.com  Sun May  3 12:47:10 2026
From: joe.davis at carouselschool.com (joe.davis at carouselschool.com)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 09:47:10 -0700
Subject: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.15 Released
In-Reply-To: <1BC882B8-AAC1-4802-80BB-6C8FC186D48A@ceridwen.us>
References: <1BC882B8-AAC1-4802-80BB-6C8FC186D48A@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <000a01dcdb1c$7d0a5a70$771f0f50$@carouselschool.com>

I tried to install gnucash 5.15 on Windows 11.   The setup never completed and left a setup icon showing half completed setup. I tried closing the icon but that does not close. I tried looking for the data files and do not know where the data files are. I tried uninstalling Gnucash  and rebooting.  When I tried to install 5.15 again, I see install but I am left with the setup icon show half completed setup in the taskbar that does not open.  



-----Original Message-----
From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+joe.davis=carouselschool.com at gnucash.org> On Behalf Of John Ralls
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2026 2:08 PM
To: gnucash-announce at lists.gnucash.org
Cc: gnucash-devel <gnucash-devel at gnucash.org>; Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.15 Released

The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 5.15, the sixteenth release in the stable 5.x series.

Between 5.14 and 5.15, the following bugfixes were accomplished:
    ? Bug 666536 - smallest fraction of KRW is invalid
    ? Bug 798122 - Message about unable to balance transaction: Implement better can't-balance messages for scheduled transactions with more than one template transaction.
    ? Bug 798873 - Crash when scrubbing after "undoing" changes
    ? Bug 799705 - Remove Old Prices by Namespace: Display namespaces and allow selecting particular namespaces in the Remove Old Prices dialog.
    ? Bug 799706 - Rename Namespace: Add a rename namespace button to the Security editor that is enabled by the selection of a namespace row in the tree view. 
    ? Bug 799713 - Account Editor changes account color to gray when default selected.
    ? Bug 799722 - Inconsistent wording: Bill and Invoice: Use "Business Item" in messages that could apply to any of Bill, Credit Note, or Invoice, including where we reuse the same message in different cases.
    ? Bug 799734 - mapped OFX income account not listed
    ? Bug 799745 - Import matcher doesn't handle zero length memo and description properly The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:
    ? Major improvement in Python bindings to enable engine methods to return Python objects instead of SWIG pointers. Covers Account, Split, Transaction, GNCLot, gnc_commodity, gnc_commodity_namespace, gnc_commodity_table, GNCPrice, GNCPriceDB, QofBook, QofSession, GncGUID, GncCustomer, GncEmployee, GncVendor, GncJob, GncAddress, GncBillTerm, GncTaxTable, GncInvoice, and GncEntry. GncOwner, the superclass of many of the business classes, is already covered. This allows more pythonic usage:
        ? Call member functions directly, e.g. price.get_commodity() instead of using the C-function style gc.gnc_price_get_commodity(price)
        ? The C-function call now raises a DeprecationWarning if called with a Python object but not if called with the instance, e.g. gc.gnc_price_get_commodity(price.instance)
        ? It is no longer necessary to test and convert return values for being SwigPyObjects or not Python objects:     
          Code like
             if type(desc).__name__ == 'SwigPyObject?:
                 desc = gnucash.Account(instance=desc)
          or
             if type(split) != Split:
                 split=Split(instance=split)
          is no longer required. 
    ? Enable copy-and-paste in Scheduled Transaction template transactions.
    ? Disable the Transaction Paste or Split Paste menu items in the register's Transaction menu when there is no transaction or split in the clipboard.
    ? Check all template transactions in a Scheduled Transaction for balance instead of only the first.
    ? Fix the last reconcile date sort in the Accounts page so that unreconciled accounts sort after reconciled ones instead of before.
    ? Ensure that custom report sub-menus can receive custom report entries.
    ? Import Matcher: Add trace messages to make it easier to track why some transactions aren't considered possible matches and uncomment the debug statements so that they can be emitted with --log arguments on the command line.
    ? Fix segfault in gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj when GSettings schemas are not installed.
    ? Add tooltip explaining date-format selection to the CSV Import Assistant.
    ? CSV Importer: Reparse all import lines when changing date or currency formats or when setting base_account. 
    ? [new-owner-report.scm] fix display/due-date tooltip
    ? Transaction report efficiency improvements.
    ? Ensure that gnc_commodity_compare produces a stable sort.
    ? Implement full test coverage of libgnucash/engine/qofid except for some unreachable code.
    ? Remove unused qof_collection_from_glist function.
    ? New function gnc_account_get_earliest_date returns the account's earliest split date. This usually reflect the account opening date.
    ? Provide an earliest-date sort option in the Accounts page and the balance-forecast report.
    ? Support 64-bit compilation on Windows.
    ? gnc_account_child_index: return -1 for non-child.
    ? Turn off deprecation warning for wstring_convert. It's deprecated in C++17 with no replacement until C++26. 
    ? Update GncDateTime to handle new exceptions from Boost::DateTime
    ? Use std::chrono to create a GncDateTime. Boost::DateTime uses time_t and in some cases that's still 32-bit, leading to a potential 2038 bug.
    ? Fix GUI leaks in register completion cell, GncPluginPageRegister, and GNCPluginPageReport.
    ? [gnc-datetime.cpp] Fix potential bug in fast_iso8601_utc_parse New and Updated Translations: Chinese (Simplified Han script), Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English (Australia), English (New Zealand), English (United Kingdom), French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Portuguese, Portuguese (Brazil), Russian, Spanish, Tamil, Turkish Known Problems

Complete list of all open bugs: https://bugs.gnucash.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=REOPENED&limit=0&list_id=8149&order=priority%2Cbug_severity&query_format=advanced

Documentation
There are no changes in the documentation for this release.
Updated Translations: None.

Getting GnuCash for Windows and MacOS

GnuCash is provided for both Microsoft Windows 10? and later and MacOS 10.13 (High Sierra)? and later in pre-built, all-in-one packages. An installer is provided for Microsoft Windows? while the MacOS? package is a disk image containing a drag-and-drop application bundle.

GnuCash is also available as a flatpak from Flathub.org. Instructions for installing and running: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak

The SHA256 Hashes for the downloadable files are:
? b0bd4af43b6bde3454227d4b398e9ec7a0dbd5143469c1373fc824c3caab0909  gnucash-5.15.tar.bz2 ? 66e77d585bac9fb53c935fa448ac6305bdb28f8f366a3ecddacb8310121bb028  gnucash-5.15.tar.gz ? 6e10f34f92a1464b45436372a70cdbd16636b14b2842431b72251ded780858bd  gnucash-5.15.setup.exe ? ef0c2c0fac275d4f2822223f3c908e9c28c559395159017eac14c4bf39b8499a  Gnucash-Arm-5.15.dmg ? 59456ec48c973f6ac96d9fcd1d34174645f28954d9adf0b14998cadd420d3a51  Gnucash-Intel-5.15.dmg ? c48b153c20bc7552e682e46b41e320aee7b5d413486ab64f3c5ad1e8e00fdaaa  gnucash-docs-5.15.tar.gz

Note that at the time of this email https://www.gnucash.org/ is not taking updates so it doesn?t have the links. Use the direct links below to get GnuCash 5.15

Microsoft Windows:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.15/gnucash-5.15.setup.exe
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.15/gnucash-5.15.setup.exe

Apple macOS:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.15/Gnucash-Arm-5.15-1.dmg
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.15/Gnucash-Intel-5.15-1.dmg
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.14/Gnucash-Arm-5.15-1.dmg
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.14/Gnucash-Intel-5.15-1.dmg

Getting GnuCash as source code
If you want to compile GnuCash 5.15 for yourself, the source code can be downloaded from:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.15/gnucash-5.15.tar.bz2
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.15/gnucash-5.15.tar.gz
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.15/gnucash-5.15.tar.bz2
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.15/gnucash-5.15.tar.gz

You can also checkout the sources directly from the git repository as described at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git.

To compile GnuCash from the source code by yourself, you will need at least Gtk+ 3.22.30, Guile 2.0, Boost 1.67, WebKitGtk 2.4, GoogleTest 1.8.0, cmake 3.14.5 and SWIG 2.0.12. Please consult the README.dependencies file in the sources for the exact list of dependencies and versions.
Getting the documentation

Getting the documentation

The documentation is available at Documentation page of the GnuCash website. The 5.13 documentation can be found under "GnuCash v5 (current stable release)" in multiple languages both for reading online and for download in pdf, epub, and mobi formats. The documentation is also included in the MacOS and Windows application bundles.

If you want to compile the GnuCash Documentation 5.15 for yourself, the source code can be downloaded from:

Sourceforge: https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.15/gnucash-docs-5.15.tar.gz
GitHub: https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.14/gnucash-docs-5.15.tar.gz

You can also checkout the sources directly from the git repository as described at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git.

About the Program

GnuCash is a free, open source accounting program released under the GNU General Public License (GPL) and available for GNU/Linux, *BSD, Solaris, MacOS, and Microsoft Windows. Programming on GnuCash began in 1997, and its first stable release was in 1998.

Regards,
John Ralls

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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Sun May  3 13:06:38 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 10:06:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.15 Released
In-Reply-To: <000a01dcdb1c$7d0a5a70$771f0f50$@carouselschool.com>
References: <1BC882B8-AAC1-4802-80BB-6C8FC186D48A@ceridwen.us>
 <000a01dcdb1c$7d0a5a70$771f0f50$@carouselschool.com>
Message-ID: <568169623.317765.1777827998729@connect.xfinity.com>

It's likely the known Windows install problem that impacts some systems.

As Adrien Monteleone wrote in reply to a similar message,

"This is a known problem on *some* Windows systems. (covered here in 
several threads)

The solution is to:

1. Uninstall Gnucash

2. Delete the Gnucash folder in your "Program Files(x86)" directory 
(usually on C:\)

3. Re-install Gnucash"

https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2026-March/120025.html


> On 05/03/2026 9:47 AM PDT joe.davis at carouselschool.com wrote:
> 
>  
> I tried to install gnucash 5.15 on Windows 11.   The setup never completed and left a setup icon showing half completed setup. I tried closing the icon but that does not close. I tried looking for the data files and do not know where the data files are. I tried uninstalling Gnucash  and rebooting.  When I tried to install 5.15 again, I see install but I am left with the setup icon show half completed setup in the taskbar that does not open.  
> 
>

From joe.davis at carouselschool.com  Sun May  3 13:51:55 2026
From: joe.davis at carouselschool.com (joe.davis at carouselschool.com)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 10:51:55 -0700
Subject: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.15 Released
In-Reply-To: <568169623.317765.1777827998729@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1BC882B8-AAC1-4802-80BB-6C8FC186D48A@ceridwen.us>
 <000a01dcdb1c$7d0a5a70$771f0f50$@carouselschool.com>
 <568169623.317765.1777827998729@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <000601dcdb25$88915110$99b3f330$@carouselschool.com>

Actually it was much simpler and so simple I did not recognize. The problem
was the final Next window to complete the operation was not visible. I found
that my clicking on Setup icon showed a tiny rectangular window in the lower
left hand corner. When I click the tiny rectangular window, I get options. I
selected Restore and was able to see the Next window to complete the
install. Then selected Finish to close the window. I then opened Gnucash and
selected pin to taskbar. 

As far as the data files, I selected File > Save As and that allows me to
see what folder I used for the data files.  

Thanks for the answer.  In this case, I probably did not need to uninstall
Gnucash or Delete Gnucash folder under  "Program Files(x86)"
I did neither uninstall or delete folder  for the second computer Gnucash
update. 

-----Original Message-----
From: gnucash-user
<gnucash-user-bounces+joe.davis=carouselschool.com at gnucash.org> On Behalf Of
Patrick James via gnucash-user
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 10:07 AM
To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.15 Released

It's likely the known Windows install problem that impacts some systems.

As Adrien Monteleone wrote in reply to a similar message,

"This is a known problem on *some* Windows systems. (covered here in several
threads)

The solution is to:

1. Uninstall Gnucash

2. Delete the Gnucash folder in your "Program Files(x86)" directory (usually
on C:\)

3. Re-install Gnucash"

https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2026-March/120025.html


> On 05/03/2026 9:47 AM PDT joe.davis at carouselschool.com wrote:
> 
>  
> I tried to install gnucash 5.15 on Windows 11.   The setup never completed
and left a setup icon showing half completed setup. I tried closing the icon
but that does not close. I tried looking for the data files and do not know
where the data files are. I tried uninstalling Gnucash  and rebooting.  When
I tried to install 5.15 again, I see install but I am left with the setup
icon show half completed setup in the taskbar that does not open.  
> 
>
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From louise at bernevyl.com  Sun May  3 17:27:50 2026
From: louise at bernevyl.com (Louise)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 15:27:50 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and deposit
Message-ID: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>

I would like to ask how you folks deal with the 5 - 7 days between when 
a withdrawal is made, and the resulting transfer is deposited.

It would be nice to have the withdrawal date and the deposit date 
correct, but I see no way of making it happen.

It is only a small thing, but if I could I would like to remove the 
"confusion".

Any thoughts?

Louise


From louise at bernevyl.com  Sun May  3 17:36:14 2026
From: louise at bernevyl.com (Louise)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 15:36:14 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
Message-ID: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>

I have a managed investment account where I deposit funds monthly, and 
someone, or AI, decides what stocks to buy.

So far, in GnuCash, I have just been transferring my deposits to the 
appropriate account. When the dividends are paid out I have simple been 
allocating the amounts to a plain account per stock.

Should I be treating these "purchases" as stocks, or is this not necessary?

Thanks,

Louise.

From tom.route36 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 18:41:45 2026
From: tom.route36 at gmail.com (Tom Route36)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 16:41:45 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and deposit
In-Reply-To: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>
References: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>
Message-ID: <aac1b761-e4e4-4c07-9e87-5fbbb6a1f1d6@gmail.com>

Hi Louise,

I'm sure everyone here has their own philosophy on how to handle that 
question; but I'll just jump in with what I do personally.? For my 
checking account if I have a billing/destination account setup for 
AutoPay, I don't worry or care about the destination account date.? For 
me, I enter the transaction date as the date that funds are actually 
withdrawn from my checking account.

On the other hand, if it's a bill that I pay manually (i.e., not 
AutoPay), then I'll enter the transaction date as the date I make the 
payment to the billing/destination account.? In that case, I don't worry 
or care about the date that funds are withdrawn from my checking 
account.? For me, it's more important (in that case) to keep track of 
the date that I make the manual payment.

If there's a long delay (i.e., more than a day or two) between when the 
billing account receives the funds versus when the source account posts 
the withdrawal -- and if I think it's important to keep track of that -- 
then in the split details of the transaction, I'll make a note of the 
actual posting dates for both accounts.? For example, the billing 
account split will note that the posting date was 4/30/2026; but the 
checking account split will note that the posting date was 5/3/2026.? 
But I only bother with that kind of detail if I feel that it's really 
important to know that.

Anyway, that's how I handle the date discrepancies.

Tom


On 5/3/2026 3:27 PM, Louise wrote:
> I would like to ask how you folks deal with the 5 - 7 days between 
> when a withdrawal is made, and the resulting transfer is deposited.
>
> It would be nice to have the withdrawal date and the deposit date 
> correct, but I see no way of making it happen.
>
> It is only a small thing, but if I could I would like to remove the 
> "confusion".
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Louise
>
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From davidcousens49 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 19:17:59 2026
From: davidcousens49 at gmail.com (David Cousens)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 09:17:59 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and deposit
In-Reply-To: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>
References: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>
Message-ID: <e95b8c0d84939afbcd9f1483d450ee663e80eb67.camel@gmail.com>

Louise,

It is not clear from your question the exact context in which this
timing difference may occur but accounting generally uses a suspense
account as a place to temporarily park trnasactions where the timing
can be different in the effects of the transaction entries on different
accounts. So when the withdraawl is made (assuming form an asset
account) the Asset account is credited and the suspense account is
debited. When the second leg of the transaction occurs i.e. tyhe
deposit in your example, the suspense account is credited and the
account the deposit is made to is debited. The balance of a suspense
account should always float around zero as it is a temporary account.
Depending on the nature of the transactions involved it can be an asset
or liability or even an equity account.

In a business I had I often received cash paymnents from customers
which was not always deposited in my bank account immediately. I had an
asset account Cash Payments received which was debited when the payment
was received with a corresponding entry to the relevant income account.
When I deposited the funds, the Cash Payments account was credited and
my Bank account debited. That way the income account registered the
date the funds were received and the bank account had the correct
deposit date.

On Sun, 2026-05-03 at 15:27 -0600, Louise wrote:
> I would like to ask how you folks deal with the 5 - 7 days between
> when 
> a withdrawal is made, and the resulting transfer is deposited.
> 
> It would be nice to have the withdrawal date and the deposit date 
> correct, but I see no way of making it happen.
> 
> It is only a small thing, but if I could I would like to remove the 
> "confusion".
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Louise
> 
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From abrogard at yahoo.com  Sun May  3 21:12:35 2026
From: abrogard at yahoo.com (arthur brogard)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 01:12:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GNC] suddenly will not accept a normal transaction in a batch
 import.
References: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>

I have six transactions that gnucash will not import.? It red highlights and says 'do not import; no action selected'
hundreds of such transactions have been imported without any action selections at all.? I give, of course, date, amount,description, destination account.? All works fine.? Except for these six.

Any clues?? Thins I could/should do???

From stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 21:19:59 2026
From: stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com (Steve Butler)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 18:19:59 -0700
Subject: [GNC] suddenly will not accept a normal transaction in a batch
 import.
In-Reply-To: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALTSo2gwEcx=qrQWOYjH0ra47-UXNWWedk8yQyb2F7QL7qr3Gg@mail.gmail.com>

The importer thinks it sees them already.  So if you want to force them to
be loaded, then click the box in the first column.

On Sun, May 3, 2026, 18:13 arthur brogard via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

> I have six transactions that gnucash will not import.  It red highlights
> and says 'do not import; no action selected'
> hundreds of such transactions have been imported without any action
> selections at all.  I give, of course, date, amount,description,
> destination account.  All works fine.  Except for these six.
>
> Any clues?  Thins I could/should do?
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From mrecky.101 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 22:14:59 2026
From: mrecky.101 at gmail.com (Mike Brady)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 19:14:59 -0700
Subject: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.70.1777857613.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
References: <mailman.70.1777857613.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Message-ID: <17e769a7-9f10-40c1-ada4-52b0db904d4c@gmail.com>

My 2 cents: depends on what kind of accounting you're doing. If you're 
doing simple personal cash accounting, as I usually do, a outgoing 
payments (withdrawal from one of my accounts, cash out, credit 
transaction, etc.) is easiest to log as an expense when it's issued - 
card, check, cash - since it doesn't really matter (for most things) 
when it actually clears. Once it's issued, it's gone from the account 
for my purposes since I no longer have control over it absent some 
unusual thing like a stop-payment on a check that actually works. 
Incoming (such as paycheck, retirement check, transfer of some kind, 
incoming cash of some kind) is logged as income when received, not when 
the other party issued it; it's not mine until I actually have it.

Yes, there are occasions (ran into one last year when changing brokers 
for some long-held investments that took a few days to settle) when 
account values can change between while in transit. Those are a pain. I 
would have to look at last year's books to see how we finagled that when 
preparing taxes; vaguely recall an extensive/fairly complicated split 
and possibly a suspense account involved. The accountant did a lot of 
headscratching before we agreed on a way to record it all - it was for a 
specific situation so I wouldn't consider it useful for general consumption.

I also used to be the treasurer for a small nonprofit/professional 
organization chapter. Tried using GC for a while, and it worked as 
essentially cash-basis (explaining the checkbook) accounting, but it 
turned out to be easier to use a spreadsheet set up to generate the 
numbers the annual report requires directly. Not much activity, usually, 
so the spreadsheet worked.

Mike Brady
Plain Olde User

On 5/3/2026 6:20 PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 15:27:50 -0600
> From: Louise<louise at bernevyl.com>
> To: GnuCash Mailing List<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and
> 	deposit
> Message-ID:<fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3 at bernevyl.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> I would like to ask how you folks deal with the 5 - 7 days between when
> a withdrawal is made, and the resulting transfer is deposited.
>
> It would be nice to have the withdrawal date and the deposit date
> correct, but I see no way of making it happen.
>
> It is only a small thing, but if I could I would like to remove the
> "confusion".
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Louise

From joatmon at gmail.com  Sun May  3 22:32:56 2026
From: joatmon at gmail.com (Clint Chaplin)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 19:32:56 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Asking for pointers to help resources
Message-ID: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>

I'm fairly new to double-entry bookkeeping, but I think I understand the
general principle, but when it comes to setting up a chart of accounts, it
feels like there are so many ways to set up the tree structure, starting
with what is at the higher levels vs. lower levels, and most trees are
workable.  I realize this email list is about GnuChash, which will be used
to instantiate whatever chart I develop, and so is not the correct place to
be asking my questions.

Does anybody have a pointer to a place where I can ask questions about
account charts and structures, and get some real world perspectives on what
worked and what didn't?  And what may be GAAP and what isn't?

-- 
Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin

From abrogard at yahoo.com  Sun May  3 23:19:07 2026
From: abrogard at yahoo.com (arthur brogard)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 03:19:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GNC] suddenly will not accept a normal transaction in a batch
 import.
In-Reply-To: <CALTSo2gwEcx=qrQWOYjH0ra47-UXNWWedk8yQyb2F7QL7qr3Gg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2gwEcx=qrQWOYjH0ra47-UXNWWedk8yQyb2F7QL7qr3Gg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <923748030.5719528.1777864747448@mail.yahoo.com>

So certain?? That's it?? It claims this is an existing transaction already in the books?
What does it mean 'force them to be loaded'?? It means I want the transaction entered?
If it makes my query any clearer I am talking of transactions taken directly from bank statements electronically and verified. So i am 100% confident every one is unique.
You seem to be saying gnucash will barf at apparent duplicate imports of a transaction.? I wondered about that.? That's good.? If I'm reading this right then that's what we have here - the mechanism for identifying possible duplicates?
That's what it is all about?
And if I insist on 'load' then it will enter them?
hey..? thanks for the reply...? :)



    On Monday 4 May 2026 at 10:50:10 am ACST, Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 The importer thinks it sees them already.? So if you want to force them to be loaded, then click the box in the first column.
On Sun, May 3, 2026, 18:13 arthur brogard via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

I have six transactions that gnucash will not import.? It red highlights and says 'do not import; no action selected'
hundreds of such transactions have been imported without any action selections at all.? I give, of course, date, amount,description, destination account.? All works fine.? Except for these six.

Any clues?? Thins I could/should do???
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From edodd at billiau.net  Sun May  3 23:30:41 2026
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 13:30:41 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Asking for pointers to help resources
In-Reply-To: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20260504133041.4bf41dd4@zenbook3.billiau.net>

On Sun, 3 May 2026 19:32:56 -0700
Clint Chaplin <joatmon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anybody have a pointer to a place where I can ask questions about
> account charts and structures, and get some real world perspectives
> on what worked and what didn't?  And what may be GAAP and what isn't?

We will offer answers here, correctly prefixed with IANAA, and also
suggest you ask your own accountant.

Ask away.

Liz
Moderator

From list+gnucash at jdlh.com  Sun May  3 23:30:59 2026
From: list+gnucash at jdlh.com (Jim DeLaHunt)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 20:30:59 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Asking for pointers to help resources
In-Reply-To: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63b95ec0-bfb0-4d62-bf06-0adc36c02f53@jdlh.com>

Hello, Clint, and welcome to GnuCash!

On 2026-05-03 19:32, Clint Chaplin wrote:
> I'm fairly new to double-entry bookkeeping, but I think I understand the
> general principle, but when it comes to setting up a chart of accounts, it
> feels like there are so many ways to set up the tree structure, starting
> with what is at the higher levels vs. lower levels, and most trees are
> workable.  I realize this email list is about GnuChash, which will be used
> to instantiate whatever chart I develop, and so is not the correct place to
> be asking my questions.
>
> Does anybody have a pointer to a place where I can ask questions about
> account charts and structures, and get some real world perspectives on what
> worked and what didn't?  And what may be GAAP and what isn't?

The place to start in the GnuCash documentation is the /GnuCash Tutorial 
and Concepts Guide/ 
<https://gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=5&lang=C&doc=guide>. See 
especially section 2, the basics.

The /GnuCash Wiki/?has an FAQ. See especially the *Accounting 
Questions*?section 
<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Accounting_Questions>. Note that it 
suggests specific texts and videos as introductions to accounting.

GnuCash makes it easy to experiment. GnuCash will offer to populate a 
few different charts of accounts in a new book file. It costs nothing 
but a little time to try. So, install GnuCash, open a new Book file, 
accept the various offers of initial charts of accounts, and see what 
you think.? Also, it is not hard to restructure the chart of accounts as 
you go. You can move a subaccount from one parent to another, and all 
the transactions stay within that account. So, one way to get started is 
to get started, then correct your course as you go.

There is a /Personal Finance & Money/?Q&A site 
<https://money.stackexchange.com/>. Some accounting questions are in 
scope there, but I'm not sure where exactly they draw the boundaries.

When it comes time to switch from learning about accounting to learning 
how GnuCash works, read /The GnuCash Manual/ 
<https://gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=5&lang=C&doc=help>.

I hope this helps,
 ? ? ??Jim DeLaHunt

From davidcousens49 at gmail.com  Mon May  4 00:54:00 2026
From: davidcousens49 at gmail.com (David Cousens)
Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 14:54:00 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Asking for pointers to help resources
In-Reply-To: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63e277d86566c5008a21f588fac7e71df42393ad.camel@gmail.com>

Clint

The best starting point is a basic financial accounting text book (with
an edition published in the US for the GAAP although the real
differences between GAAP and the IFRS standards are actually fairly
minimal).?
The Basics section in the GnuCash Tutorial and Concepts Guide
(https://gnucash-docs-rst.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) also has a summary
introduction.

Any chart of accounts should have at the top level the parent accounts:
Assets
Liabilities
Equity
Income
Expenses
with subaccounts as required for specific purposes and when setting up
the chart of account in GnuCash, the account type ( a property of the
account will be generally set to the same type as the parent top level
account.

Gnucash also uses a number of specialised account types
(https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5//C/gnucash-manual/acct-types.html)
which are sub types of those main account types ( Bank,Cash, Credit
Card,Stock , Mutual Fund, Accounts Receivable, Accounts Payable) of the
main account types to implement specific features in
GnuCash.https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5//C/gnucash-manual/acct-types.htmlhttps://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5//C/gnucash-manual/acct-types.html

On Sun, 2026-05-03 at 19:32 -0700, Clint Chaplin wrote:
> I'm fairly new to double-entry bookkeeping, but I think I understand
> the
> general principle, but when it comes to setting up a chart
> ofhttps://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5//C/gnucash-manual/acct-types.htmlhttps://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5//C/gnucash-manual/acct-types.html
> accounts, it
> feels like there are so many ways to set up the tree structure,
> starting
> with what is at the higher levels vs. lower levels, and most trees
> are
> workable.? I realize this email list is about GnuChash, which will be
> used
> to instantiate whatever chart I develop, and so is not the correct
> place to
> be asking my questions.
> 
> Does anybody have a pointer to a place where I can ask questions
> about
> account charts and structures, and get some real world perspectives
> on what
> worked and what didn't?? And what may be GAAP and what isn't?
> 

-- 
David Cousens

From stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com  Mon May  4 01:00:03 2026
From: stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com (Steve Butler)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 22:00:03 -0700
Subject: [GNC] suddenly will not accept a normal transaction in a batch
 import.
In-Reply-To: <923748030.5719528.1777864747448@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2gwEcx=qrQWOYjH0ra47-UXNWWedk8yQyb2F7QL7qr3Gg@mail.gmail.com>
 <923748030.5719528.1777864747448@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALTSo2h5ULoGT7mimN5kq2nNx9Th0cgk3TG-ejMotzrTpxauvg@mail.gmail.com>

You can make a copy of your file and test the import there making various
changes to see what happens.

On Sun, May 3, 2026, 20:19 arthur brogard <abrogard at yahoo.com> wrote:

> So certain?  That's it?  It claims this is an existing transaction already
> in the books?
> What does it mean 'force them to be loaded'?  It means I want the
> transaction entered?
> If it makes my query any clearer I am talking of transactions taken
> directly from bank statements electronically and verified. So i am 100%
> confident every one is unique.
> You seem to be saying gnucash will barf at apparent duplicate imports of a
> transaction.  I wondered about that.  That's good.  If I'm reading this
> right then that's what we have here - the mechanism for identifying
> possible duplicates?
> That's what it is all about?
> And if I insist on 'load' then it will enter them?
> hey..  thanks for the reply...  :)
>
>
>
>
> On Monday 4 May 2026 at 10:50:10 am ACST, Steve Butler <
> stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The importer thinks it sees them already.  So if you want to force them to
> be loaded, then click the box in the first column.
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2026, 18:13 arthur brogard via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> I have six transactions that gnucash will not import.  It red highlights
> and says 'do not import; no action selected'
> hundreds of such transactions have been imported without any action
> selections at all.  I give, of course, date, amount,description,
> destination account.  All works fine.  Except for these six.
>
> Any clues?  Thins I could/should do?
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
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From abrogard at yahoo.com  Mon May  4 01:07:11 2026
From: abrogard at yahoo.com (arthur brogard)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 05:07:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GNC] suddenly will not accept a normal transaction in a batch
 import.
In-Reply-To: <CALTSo2h5ULoGT7mimN5kq2nNx9Th0cgk3TG-ejMotzrTpxauvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2gwEcx=qrQWOYjH0ra47-UXNWWedk8yQyb2F7QL7qr3Gg@mail.gmail.com>
 <923748030.5719528.1777864747448@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2h5ULoGT7mimN5kq2nNx9Th0cgk3TG-ejMotzrTpxauvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <867288129.5426498.1777871231593@mail.yahoo.com>

yep. i'm doing that.? i have a litte 12 transaction csv i keep playing with.? 6 are the ones it barfs at.? 6 are accepted.
i move fields around and whatnot.? haven't come up with an answer yet.
tested the proposition that it is just discerning existing transactions: no, that's not it. I just offered it half a dozen existing trans and it was willing to take them.??
one of my tests I simply moved the amount column down one row.? then put the bottom figure at the top.? making 6 new transactions with all the old data fields.? It accepted all except one.? was willing to accept? (i didn't go through with it).
did it again with amount+desc this time. same thing.? and so on.. playing like that.
put them back where they came from: bang: rejects...It's a puzzle.


    On Monday 4 May 2026 at 02:30:14 pm ACST, Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 You can make a copy of your file and test the import there making various changes to see what happens.
On Sun, May 3, 2026, 20:19 arthur brogard <abrogard at yahoo.com> wrote:

So certain?? That's it?? It claims this is an existing transaction already in the books?
What does it mean 'force them to be loaded'?? It means I want the transaction entered?
If it makes my query any clearer I am talking of transactions taken directly from bank statements electronically and verified. So i am 100% confident every one is unique.
You seem to be saying gnucash will barf at apparent duplicate imports of a transaction.? I wondered about that.? That's good.? If I'm reading this right then that's what we have here - the mechanism for identifying possible duplicates?
That's what it is all about?
And if I insist on 'load' then it will enter them?
hey..? thanks for the reply...? :)



    On Monday 4 May 2026 at 10:50:10 am ACST, Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 The importer thinks it sees them already.? So if you want to force them to be loaded, then click the box in the first column.
On Sun, May 3, 2026, 18:13 arthur brogard via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

I have six transactions that gnucash will not import.? It red highlights and says 'do not import; no action selected'
hundreds of such transactions have been imported without any action selections at all.? I give, of course, date, amount,description, destination account.? All works fine.? Except for these six.

Any clues?? Thins I could/should do???
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From wm at ilipsis.net  Mon May  4 02:35:55 2026
From: wm at ilipsis.net (Wm Tarr)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 07:35:55 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
In-Reply-To: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>
References: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>
Message-ID: <e246f988-4336-48ab-862d-03fa676722b5@ilipsis.net>

If there is a single value for the whole thing I'd be inclined to treat 
it as a mutual fund rather than recording a myriad of individual 
stocks.? Doe that make sense in terms of what reporting you get after 
each bunch of purchases?

Wm


On 2026-05-03 22:36, Louise wrote:
> I have a managed investment account where I deposit funds monthly, and 
> someone, or AI, decides what stocks to buy.
>
> So far, in GnuCash, I have just been transferring my deposits to the 
> appropriate account. When the dividends are paid out I have simple 
> been allocating the amounts to a plain account per stock.
>
> Should I be treating these "purchases" as stocks, or is this not 
> necessary?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Louise.
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From wm at ilipsis.net  Mon May  4 02:46:38 2026
From: wm at ilipsis.net (Wm Tarr)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 07:46:38 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Asking for pointers to help resources
In-Reply-To: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7b415dd4-9755-4072-b021-6395062747b7@ilipsis.net>

Have you tried playing (i.e. in a test book) with the various templates 
under Actions / New account hierarchy?? Plenty of ideas there and you 
may be able to come back here with more specific questions.

Wm

On 2026-05-04 03:32, Clint Chaplin wrote:
> I'm fairly new to double-entry bookkeeping, but I think I understand the
> general principle, but when it comes to setting up a chart of accounts, it
> feels like there are so many ways to set up the tree structure, starting
> with what is at the higher levels vs. lower levels, and most trees are
> workable.  I realize this email list is about GnuChash, which will be used
> to instantiate whatever chart I develop, and so is not the correct place to
> be asking my questions.
>
> Does anybody have a pointer to a place where I can ask questions about
> account charts and structures, and get some real world perspectives on what
> worked and what didn't?  And what may be GAAP and what isn't?
>

From david at warren1.net  Mon May  4 05:30:32 2026
From: david at warren1.net (David Warren)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 11:30:32 +0200
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
In-Reply-To: <e246f988-4336-48ab-862d-03fa676722b5@ilipsis.net>
References: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>
 <e246f988-4336-48ab-862d-03fa676722b5@ilipsis.net>
Message-ID: <CAD5Z54ef3W7zy6otTUZaiLp4OG2+w9oQ=zOkhQvwXwB_3AvnqA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi. This is neither a gnucash nor accounting question. Gnucash can handle
either approach.

To answer your q literally, no it is not necessary, and for most of my
holdings I do NOT record individual stocks. Rather I record deposits to
this type of account as debits, and withdrawals from the account as
credits. Moreover, I track realized and unrealized gains and other taxable
income as debits to this type of asset account and credits to various types
of income or equity accounts. (reverse that for losses).

But your system, your choice.

On Mon, May 4, 2026, 8:37?AM Wm Tarr <wm at ilipsis.net> wrote:

> If there is a single value for the whole thing I'd be inclined to treat
> it as a mutual fund rather than recording a myriad of individual
> stocks.  Doe that make sense in terms of what reporting you get after
> each bunch of purchases?
>
> Wm
>
>
> On 2026-05-03 22:36, Louise wrote:
> > I have a managed investment account where I deposit funds monthly, and
> > someone, or AI, decides what stocks to buy.
> >
> > So far, in GnuCash, I have just been transferring my deposits to the
> > appropriate account. When the dividends are paid out I have simple
> > been allocating the amounts to a plain account per stock.
> >
> > Should I be treating these "purchases" as stocks, or is this not
> > necessary?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Louise.
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From johnve at juno.com  Mon May  4 10:43:36 2026
From: johnve at juno.com (John Vermeer)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 14:43:36 GMT
Subject: [GNC] BECU Direct Connect / OFX permanently returning HTTP 503
	-	H	as BECU mo	ved to OAuth exclusively?
Message-ID: <20260504.074336.17402.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>


Kalpesh,

Thanks for the feedback. This is sort of what I expected. Although other sources claim that Quicken switched to a "more secure" protocol.

John
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Kalpesh Patel" <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
To: "'John Vermeer'" <johnve at juno.com>, <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: RE: [GNC] BECU Direct Connect / OFX permanently returning HTTP 503 -	Has BECU mo	ved to OAuth exclusively?
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 15:38:15 -0400

That 503 error most likely means that Quicken paid them enough to succumb to
exclusivity ... for techies it means the WAF is blocking the request if it
doesn't originate from a whitelisted IP address(es). 

Only Boeing Employees Credit Union can tell you for sure by calling them up
but the support folks aren't likely to have the full picture of things and
will most likely read a pre-canned reply to get you off the phone as quickly
as possible. 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Vermeer <johnve at juno.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2026 10:02 AM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] BECU Direct Connect / OFX permanently returning HTTP 503 -
Has BECU mo ved to OAuth exclusively?

Hello everyone,

I am trying to determine if Boeing Employees Credit Union (BECU) has
permanently shut down its OFX Direct Connect gateway for open-source tools.

The connection via AqBanking has been failing since late February 2026. On
April 23, the Quicken community officially marked the BECU connection issue
as "Resolved." However, GnuCash is still unable to connect.

Here are the specific technical details and troubleshooting steps I have
taken:

The Error: I am consistently getting an "HTTP-Status: 503 (Service
Unavailable)" error during the AqBanking sync.

The Endpoint: I am using the standard modern endpoint:
https://onlinebanking.becu.org/ofx/ofxprocessor.asp

Browser Verification: To rule out GnuCash/AqBanking configuration issues, I
navigated to that .asp URL directly in Microsoft Edge. It immediately
returns a 503 Service Unavailable error, which suggests their Web
Application Firewall (WAF) is intentionally blocking standard web requests
to that gateway.

AqBanking Reset: I have completely deleted the user profile, generated a
fresh UUID for the ClientUID (stripping the hyphens), and rebuilt the
connection using FID 325081403, APPID QWIN, APPVER 3100, and Header 103. The
503 error persists.

Context that points to an API shift:
While OFX is completely dead for me, I noticed that BECU's connection to my
Fidelity account (which uses Akoya/OAuth APIs) just started working again a
few days ago. This strongly implies that Quicken&#65533;s "fix" was actually
a migration to Express Web Connect+ (OAuth), and that BECU has intentionally
left the legacy OFX gateway offline.

Has anyone in the community successfully connected GnuCash to BECU since the
April 23rd Quicken fix? If not, is it safe to assume we are permanently
locked out of direct OFX syncing for this institution?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

John Vermeer, USA


From gnucash at kcburns.com  Mon May  4 10:46:33 2026
From: gnucash at kcburns.com (gnucash at kcburns.com)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 10:46:33 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.70.1777857613.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
References: <mailman.70.1777857613.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Message-ID: <8ca04eba-844d-4be1-9cad-e5f880a8d4da@kcburns.com>

Louise,

Income tax implications can affect how you wish to do your accounting...

What income tax laws are you subject to?  USA?

My knowledge is only of USA tax laws.

If you are in the USA, then is this account in a Traditional IRA, Roth IRA, 401(k), or other tax deferred account?  Or not in a tax deferred account?

It boils down to whether you need to have your accounting system contain the information for completing the income tax forms regarding capital gains.

Ken

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 15:36:14 -0600
From: Louise<louise at bernevyl.com>
To: GnuCash Mailing List<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or
	no?
Message-ID:<c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727 at bernevyl.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I have a managed investment account where I deposit funds monthly, and
someone, or AI, decides what stocks to buy.

So far, in GnuCash, I have just been transferring my deposits to the
appropriate account. When the dividends are paid out I have simple been
allocating the amounts to a plain account per stock.

Should I be treating these "purchases" as stocks, or is this not necessary?

Thanks,

Louise.


From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Mon May  4 12:32:10 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 09:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Asking for pointers to help resources
In-Reply-To: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2127472914.337095.1777912330638@connect.xfinity.com>

Clint,

GAAP and the other similar accounting standards are in the world of Financial Accounting. The standards provide a way to communicate financial information in a specified, known manner. Also GAAP is not a single standard, but a collection of standards. In the US, FASB and GASB are at the top of the "House of GAAP," but decisions could get down to a trade group standard if there is not clear direction from above.

Then there is an entire other world: Managerial Accounting. Managerial Accounting is for internal purposes, and generally, individuals are allowed to do whatever they want with their own accounting records. Yes, some alignments with tax standards or accounting standards will likely make your life easier. There are also some generally accepted practices in the world of Managerial Accounting, but there is no requirement to follow any standard or practice for internal records.

GAAP requires a fair presentation of the financial condition, and if you just look for examples in public filings, you'll find many examples where similar events must be recorded in different ways for different entities. For example, if my books were off by $100k, that would be a major problem. On the other hand, if Musk, Gates, Buffett were off by $100k, that's within rounding error, so just enter an adjusting entry. This sets up a tension as to what is the "correct" way to record various financial events.

The bottom line here is we can discuss how to enter transactions into GnuCash given the correct question, but what you decide to do could be in the realm of Managerial Accounting or decisions about GAAP that are specific to your financial situation.


> On 05/03/2026 7:32 PM PDT Clint Chaplin <joatmon at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> I'm fairly new to double-entry bookkeeping, but I think I understand the
> general principle, but when it comes to setting up a chart of accounts, it
> feels like there are so many ways to set up the tree structure, starting
> with what is at the higher levels vs. lower levels, and most trees are
> workable.  I realize this email list is about GnuChash, which will be used
> to instantiate whatever chart I develop, and so is not the correct place to
> be asking my questions.
> 
> Does anybody have a pointer to a place where I can ask questions about
> account charts and structures, and get some real world perspectives on what
> worked and what didn't?  And what may be GAAP and what isn't?
> 
> -- 
> Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin

From david.carlson.417 at gmail.com  Mon May  4 12:41:25 2026
From: david.carlson.417 at gmail.com (David Carlson)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 11:41:25 -0500
Subject: [GNC] suddenly will not accept a normal transaction in a batch
 import.
In-Reply-To: <867288129.5426498.1777871231593@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2gwEcx=qrQWOYjH0ra47-UXNWWedk8yQyb2F7QL7qr3Gg@mail.gmail.com>
 <923748030.5719528.1777864747448@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2h5ULoGT7mimN5kq2nNx9Th0cgk3TG-ejMotzrTpxauvg@mail.gmail.com>
 <867288129.5426498.1777871231593@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADYgSbkNwNF-9+Y+WcpTirWizpY7ZXxK02yyCTq6UXoEgddamA@mail.gmail.com>

I get those red items all the time.  Just change them to whatever you know
is correct.  If you are unsure of which account to assign the transfer to,
just call it new and remember to double check after the import is complete.

On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 12:08?AM arthur brogard via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

> yep. i'm doing that.  i have a litte 12 transaction csv i keep playing
> with.  6 are the ones it barfs at.  6 are accepted.
> i move fields around and whatnot.  haven't come up with an answer yet.
> tested the proposition that it is just discerning existing transactions:
> no, that's not it. I just offered it half a dozen existing trans and it was
> willing to take them.
> one of my tests I simply moved the amount column down one row.  then put
> the bottom figure at the top.  making 6 new transactions with all the old
> data fields.  It accepted all except one.  was willing to accept  (i didn't
> go through with it).
> did it again with amount+desc this time. same thing.  and so on.. playing
> like that.
> put them back where they came from: bang: rejects...It's a puzzle.
>
>
>     On Monday 4 May 2026 at 02:30:14 pm ACST, Steve Butler <
> stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  You can make a copy of your file and test the import there making various
> changes to see what happens.
> On Sun, May 3, 2026, 20:19 arthur brogard <abrogard at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> So certain?  That's it?  It claims this is an existing transaction already
> in the books?
> What does it mean 'force them to be loaded'?  It means I want the
> transaction entered?
> If it makes my query any clearer I am talking of transactions taken
> directly from bank statements electronically and verified. So i am 100%
> confident every one is unique.
> You seem to be saying gnucash will barf at apparent duplicate imports of a
> transaction.  I wondered about that.  That's good.  If I'm reading this
> right then that's what we have here - the mechanism for identifying
> possible duplicates?
> That's what it is all about?
> And if I insist on 'load' then it will enter them?
> hey..  thanks for the reply...  :)
>
>
>
>     On Monday 4 May 2026 at 10:50:10 am ACST, Steve Butler <
> stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  The importer thinks it sees them already.  So if you want to force them
> to be loaded, then click the box in the first column.
> On Sun, May 3, 2026, 18:13 arthur brogard via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> I have six transactions that gnucash will not import.  It red highlights
> and says 'do not import; no action selected'
> hundreds of such transactions have been imported without any action
> selections at all.  I give, of course, date, amount,description,
> destination account.  All works fine.  Except for these six.
>
> Any clues?  Thins I could/should do?
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-- 
David Carlson

From kalpesh.patel at usa.net  Mon May  4 14:26:50 2026
From: kalpesh.patel at usa.net (Kalpesh Patel)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 14:26:50 -0400
Subject: [GNC] BECU Direct Connect / OFX permanently returning HTTP 503
 -	H	as BECU mo	ved to OAuth exclusively?
In-Reply-To: <20260504.074336.17402.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20260504.074336.17402.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <00de01dcdbf3$93967800$bac36800$@usa.net>

Quicken did change the authentication method to be secure web based - very
similar to the way Google implements for theirs; OAuth.

But that shouldn't matter for the perspective of supporting other software
if Boing CU chose to do so, but there isn't anything out there that is as
big as Quicken so they drive the norms to keep them business while others
folds.

Prime example is QFX. They took OFX standard, added their customization on
top and called it their own proprietary format. 

The 503 error is being done  -- at a much lower level -- even before their
backend system can decipher what the request is all about.

Ultimately, you will have to create a work around to that channel of imports
as it is likely not going to be available, likely ever. If you have OFX
download from their portal than that will be the next best option.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Vermeer <johnve at juno.com> 
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2026 10:44 AM
To: kalpesh.patel at usa.net
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: RE: [GNC] BECU Direct Connect / OFX permanently returning HTTP 503
- H as BECU mo ved to OAuth exclusively?


Kalpesh,

Thanks for the feedback. This is sort of what I expected. Although other
sources claim that Quicken switched to a "more secure" protocol.

John
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Kalpesh Patel" <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
To: "'John Vermeer'" <johnve at juno.com>, <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: RE: [GNC] BECU Direct Connect / OFX permanently returning HTTP 503
-	Has BECU mo	ved to OAuth exclusively?
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 15:38:15 -0400

That 503 error most likely means that Quicken paid them enough to succumb to
exclusivity ... for techies it means the WAF is blocking the request if it
doesn't originate from a whitelisted IP address(es). 

Only Boeing Employees Credit Union can tell you for sure by calling them up
but the support folks aren't likely to have the full picture of things and
will most likely read a pre-canned reply to get you off the phone as quickly
as possible. 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Vermeer <johnve at juno.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2026 10:02 AM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] BECU Direct Connect / OFX permanently returning HTTP 503 -
Has BECU mo ved to OAuth exclusively?

Hello everyone,

I am trying to determine if Boeing Employees Credit Union (BECU) has
permanently shut down its OFX Direct Connect gateway for open-source tools.

The connection via AqBanking has been failing since late February 2026. On
April 23, the Quicken community officially marked the BECU connection issue
as "Resolved." However, GnuCash is still unable to connect.

Here are the specific technical details and troubleshooting steps I have
taken:

The Error: I am consistently getting an "HTTP-Status: 503 (Service
Unavailable)" error during the AqBanking sync.

The Endpoint: I am using the standard modern endpoint:
https://onlinebanking.becu.org/ofx/ofxprocessor.asp

Browser Verification: To rule out GnuCash/AqBanking configuration issues, I
navigated to that .asp URL directly in Microsoft Edge. It immediately
returns a 503 Service Unavailable error, which suggests their Web
Application Firewall (WAF) is intentionally blocking standard web requests
to that gateway.

AqBanking Reset: I have completely deleted the user profile, generated a
fresh UUID for the ClientUID (stripping the hyphens), and rebuilt the
connection using FID 325081403, APPID QWIN, APPVER 3100, and Header 103. The
503 error persists.

Context that points to an API shift:
While OFX is completely dead for me, I noticed that BECU's connection to my
Fidelity account (which uses Akoya/OAuth APIs) just started working again a
few days ago. This strongly implies that Quicken&#65533;s "fix" was actually
a migration to Express Web Connect+ (OAuth), and that BECU has intentionally
left the legacy OFX gateway offline.

Has anyone in the community successfully connected GnuCash to BECU since the
April 23rd Quicken fix? If not, is it safe to assume we are permanently
locked out of direct OFX syncing for this institution?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

John Vermeer, USA


From abrogard at yahoo.com  Mon May  4 17:25:08 2026
From: abrogard at yahoo.com (arthur brogard)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 21:25:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GNC] suddenly will not accept a normal transaction in a batch
 import.
In-Reply-To: <CADYgSbkNwNF-9+Y+WcpTirWizpY7ZXxK02yyCTq6UXoEgddamA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2gwEcx=qrQWOYjH0ra47-UXNWWedk8yQyb2F7QL7qr3Gg@mail.gmail.com>
 <923748030.5719528.1777864747448@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2h5ULoGT7mimN5kq2nNx9Th0cgk3TG-ejMotzrTpxauvg@mail.gmail.com>
 <867288129.5426498.1777871231593@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CADYgSbkNwNF-9+Y+WcpTirWizpY7ZXxK02yyCTq6UXoEgddamA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <842055353.6066204.1777929908227@mail.yahoo.com>

I used to get them all the time until I switched off Bayseian matching after someone here suggested it.
Years ago now, I think.
Now it is rare.? For instance 2000 transactions imported in one batch the other day.? No red lines at all.
That's what makes me keen to discover just what is going on here.? It seems to have no rational cause.
:)

 

    On Tuesday 5 May 2026 at 02:11:38 am ACST, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I get those red items all the time.? Just change them to whatever you know is correct.? If you are unsure of which account to assign the transfer to, just call it new and remember to double check after the import is complete.
On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 12:08?AM arthur brogard via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

yep. i'm doing that.? i have a litte 12 transaction csv i keep playing with.? 6 are the ones it barfs at.? 6 are accepted.
i move fields around and whatnot.? haven't come up with an answer yet.
tested the proposition that it is just discerning existing transactions: no, that's not it. I just offered it half a dozen existing trans and it was willing to take them.??
one of my tests I simply moved the amount column down one row.? then put the bottom figure at the top.? making 6 new transactions with all the old data fields.? It accepted all except one.? was willing to accept? (i didn't go through with it).
did it again with amount+desc this time. same thing.? and so on.. playing like that.
put them back where they came from: bang: rejects...It's a puzzle.


? ? On Monday 4 May 2026 at 02:30:14 pm ACST, Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:? 

?You can make a copy of your file and test the import there making various changes to see what happens.
On Sun, May 3, 2026, 20:19 arthur brogard <abrogard at yahoo.com> wrote:

So certain?? That's it?? It claims this is an existing transaction already in the books?
What does it mean 'force them to be loaded'?? It means I want the transaction entered?
If it makes my query any clearer I am talking of transactions taken directly from bank statements electronically and verified. So i am 100% confident every one is unique.
You seem to be saying gnucash will barf at apparent duplicate imports of a transaction.? I wondered about that.? That's good.? If I'm reading this right then that's what we have here - the mechanism for identifying possible duplicates?
That's what it is all about?
And if I insist on 'load' then it will enter them?
hey..? thanks for the reply...? :)



? ? On Monday 4 May 2026 at 10:50:10 am ACST, Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:? 

?The importer thinks it sees them already.? So if you want to force them to be loaded, then click the box in the first column.
On Sun, May 3, 2026, 18:13 arthur brogard via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

I have six transactions that gnucash will not import.? It red highlights and says 'do not import; no action selected'
hundreds of such transactions have been imported without any action selections at all.? I give, of course, date, amount,description, destination account.? All works fine.? Except for these six.

Any clues?? Thins I could/should do???
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From louise at bernevyl.com  Mon May  4 14:42:22 2026
From: louise at bernevyl.com (Louise)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 12:42:22 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
In-Reply-To: <8ca04eba-844d-4be1-9cad-e5f880a8d4da@kcburns.com>
References: <mailman.70.1777857613.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <8ca04eba-844d-4be1-9cad-e5f880a8d4da@kcburns.com>
Message-ID: <0104ecf6-3a5b-4b61-9b2e-d916ed34c4db@bernevyl.com>

As soon as I sent this question I thought to myself, this sounds like a 
question for an accountant!!

I'm in Canada, and I doubt my accounts will be used for tax purposes. I 
think they are just for me, and I have a tendency to make things more 
complicated than they need to be.

Many thanks to everyone who has contributed their thoughts.

Louise.



On 2026-05-04 8:46 a.m., gnucash at kcburns.com wrote:
> Louise,
>
> Income tax implications can affect how you wish to do your accounting...
>
> What income tax laws are you subject to?? USA?
>
> My knowledge is only of USA tax laws.
>
> If you are in the USA, then is this account in a Traditional IRA, Roth 
> IRA, 401(k), or other tax deferred account?? Or not in a tax deferred 
> account?
>
> It boils down to whether you need to have your accounting system 
> contain the information for completing the income tax forms regarding 
> capital gains.
>
> Ken
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 15:36:14 -0600
> From: Louise<louise at bernevyl.com>
> To: GnuCash Mailing List<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or
> ????no?
> Message-ID:<c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727 at bernevyl.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> I have a managed investment account where I deposit funds monthly, and
> someone, or AI, decides what stocks to buy.
>
> So far, in GnuCash, I have just been transferring my deposits to the
> appropriate account. When the dividends are paid out I have simple been
> allocating the amounts to a plain account per stock.
>
> Should I be treating these "purchases" as stocks, or is this not 
> necessary?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Louise.
>
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From abrogard at yahoo.com  Tue May  5 02:55:28 2026
From: abrogard at yahoo.com (arthur brogard)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 06:55:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GNC] import multiplying by 100.
References: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>

I just batch imported a few hundred transactions into a totally new books.? all went well except all the values are multiplied by $10.00 has become $1000.??

I don't see anywhere in preferences 'imports' or anywhere else that i can change that.? And why would I have to?? I have never seen this before and I followed the same procedures as ever....
any clues??

From wm at ilipsis.net  Tue May  5 02:58:32 2026
From: wm at ilipsis.net (Wm Tarr)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 07:58:32 +0100
Subject: [GNC] import multiplying by 100.
In-Reply-To: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cf0ccd98-587b-4e84-9c61-427135c01551@ilipsis.net>

that sounds like a missing decimal point

Wm

On 2026-05-05 07:55, arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:
> I just batch imported a few hundred transactions into a totally new books.? all went well except all the values are multiplied by $10.00 has become $1000.
>
> I don't see anywhere in preferences 'imports' or anywhere else that i can change that.? And why would I have to?? I have never seen this before and I followed the same procedures as ever....
> any clues?
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From david.carlson.417 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 03:09:26 2026
From: david.carlson.417 at gmail.com (David Carlson)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 02:09:26 -0500
Subject: [GNC] import multiplying by 100.
In-Reply-To: <cf0ccd98-587b-4e84-9c61-427135c01551@ilipsis.net>
References: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
 <cf0ccd98-587b-4e84-9c61-427135c01551@ilipsis.net>
Message-ID: <CADYgSbmnWqka+z7GUTXd7GAi5pKBWGQU+WjQ-TXxF8BNrm+Q+A@mail.gmail.com>

Arthur,

Have you opened your import file with a text editor or spreadsheet editor
to see if the values are correct there?

On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 1:59?AM Wm Tarr <wm at ilipsis.net> wrote:

> that sounds like a missing decimal point
>
> Wm
>
> On 2026-05-05 07:55, arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:
> > I just batch imported a few hundred transactions into a totally new
> books.  all went well except all the values are multiplied by $10.00 has
> become $1000.
> >
> > I don't see anywhere in preferences 'imports' or anywhere else that i
> can change that.  And why would I have to?  I have never seen this before
> and I followed the same procedures as ever....
> > any clues?
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From maf at chilwell.net  Tue May  5 10:14:01 2026
From: maf at chilwell.net (Maf. King)
Date: Tue, 05 May 2026 15:14:01 +0100
Subject: [GNC] import multiplying by 100.
In-Reply-To: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6263627.lOV4Wx5bFT@janus>

Hi Arthur,

You say it is a totally new set of books?

Are these imports all currency transactions and accounts (i mean: no stocks or 
commodities involved on any leg)?

I wonder if some how the new GC book/accounts have been set with the wrong 
"smallest fraction" or something in the default currency setup?  Just shooting 
the breeze on that....

Maf.

On Tuesday, 5 May 2026 07:55:28 BST arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:
> I just batch imported a few hundred transactions into a totally new books. 
> all went well except all the values are multiplied by $10.00 has become
> $1000.  
> 
> I don't see anywhere in preferences 'imports' or anywhere else that i can
> change that.  And why would I have to?  I have never seen this before and I
> followed the same procedures as ever.... any clues?
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From christopher.lck at gmail.com  Tue May  5 10:27:49 2026
From: christopher.lck at gmail.com (Christopher Lam)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 22:27:49 +0800
Subject: [GNC] import multiplying by 100.
In-Reply-To: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAKVAZZLmv1M7CTjKZUmm-JyDVbc4Hf-o6WoP2vG2brnP9KxRsQ@mail.gmail.com>

This may be "automatic decimal point" global preference in Numbers/Date/Time

On Tue, 5 May 2026 at 14:56, arthur brogard via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

> I just batch imported a few hundred transactions into a totally new
> books.  all went well except all the values are multiplied by $10.00 has
> become $1000.
>
> I don't see anywhere in preferences 'imports' or anywhere else that i can
> change that.  And why would I have to?  I have never seen this before and I
> followed the same procedures as ever....
> any clues?
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From jralls at ceridwen.us  Tue May  5 11:50:23 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 08:50:23 -0700
Subject: [GNC] import multiplying by 100.
In-Reply-To: <CAKVAZZLmv1M7CTjKZUmm-JyDVbc4Hf-o6WoP2vG2brnP9KxRsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAKVAZZLmv1M7CTjKZUmm-JyDVbc4Hf-o6WoP2vG2brnP9KxRsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D4C28CD5-151E-447C-B6C8-5856D60DD2A1@ceridwen.us>

I?d expect that to go the other way, i.e. turn 1000 (no decimal point) into 10.00.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 5, 2026, at 07:27, Christopher Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This may be "automatic decimal point" global preference in Numbers/Date/Time
> 
> On Tue, 5 May 2026 at 14:56, arthur brogard via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
>> I just batch imported a few hundred transactions into a totally new
>> books.  all went well except all the values are multiplied by $10.00 has
>> become $1000.
>> 
>> I don't see anywhere in preferences 'imports' or anywhere else that i can
>> change that.  And why would I have to?  I have never seen this before and I
>> followed the same procedures as ever....
>> any clues?
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From abrogard at yahoo.com  Tue May  5 17:54:23 2026
From: abrogard at yahoo.com (arthur brogard)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 21:54:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [GNC] import multiplying by 100.
In-Reply-To: <D4C28CD5-151E-447C-B6C8-5856D60DD2A1@ceridwen.us>
References: <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1178319082.4602376.1777964128909@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAKVAZZLmv1M7CTjKZUmm-JyDVbc4Hf-o6WoP2vG2brnP9KxRsQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <D4C28CD5-151E-447C-B6C8-5856D60DD2A1@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <1932316377.6498807.1778018063253@mail.yahoo.com>

I found it.? My own fault as so often is the case. I left on the import screen the money option at the default I found there: 'locale'? I think it was.? There's two others will drop down when? I try.? One does comma, dot, the other the reverse:? 1,000.00? or 1.000,00i picked the right one and all is good now.? :)


    On Wednesday 6 May 2026 at 01:22:38 am ACST, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:  
 
 I?d expect that to go the other way, i.e. turn 1000 (no decimal point) into 10.00.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 5, 2026, at 07:27, Christopher Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This may be "automatic decimal point" global preference in Numbers/Date/Time
> 
> On Tue, 5 May 2026 at 14:56, arthur brogard via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
>> I just batch imported a few hundred transactions into a totally new
>> books.? all went well except all the values are multiplied by $10.00 has
>> become $1000.
>> 
>> I don't see anywhere in preferences 'imports' or anywhere else that i can
>> change that.? And why would I have to?? I have never seen this before and I
>> followed the same procedures as ever....
>> any clues?
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From pub08-gnc at davor.org  Tue May  5 22:17:43 2026
From: pub08-gnc at davor.org (Eric S)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 22:17:43 -0400
Subject: [GNC] suddenly will not accept a normal transaction in a batch
 import.
In-Reply-To: <923748030.5719528.1777864747448@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <422926916.5723841.1777857155057.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <422926916.5723841.1777857155057@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CALTSo2gwEcx=qrQWOYjH0ra47-UXNWWedk8yQyb2F7QL7qr3Gg@mail.gmail.com>
 <923748030.5719528.1777864747448@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <afqkx//oExpmnUc1@shekere.davor.org>

(Caveat: I've played around a little with CSV import, but the only import format I've used for real work is OFX.  I don't think there are any meaningful differences once you get to the transaction-matching stage, but could be wrong about that.)


On Mon, May 04, 2026 at 03:19:07AM +0000, arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:
> [...] the mechanism for identifying possible duplicates?

There are two different mechanisms, actually.  One of them only comes into play when you attempt to import the same transaction multiple times (e.g. if you downloaded and imported a transaction list for April 1-15, but now it's month-end and you're importing a whole-month list for April 1-30.)

But I won't say too much about that.  Your question is about the other mechanism, which is what gets used the first time you go to import a given transaction.


> So certain?? That's it?? It claims this is an existing transaction already in the books?

Yes.  Red + "Do not import (no action selected)" seems to be what you get when GnuCash has detected what it thinks is a perfect match (not merely an excellent one) with one of your existing transactions.  (I have complaints about that user interface, but that's a different topic...)

Be aware that sometimes GnuCash guesses wrong, so it's worth double-checking those Red transactions.  (I had a completely bogus "perfect" match just a few days ago.  GnuCash had paired up two completely unrelated transactions.)


So how to double-check?  A trick I've just discovered is to temporarily turn on the red transaction's "C" or "U+C" checkbox.  That will reveal the ">" icon and (in "Additional Comments") the peer account(s) GnuCash wants to use, giving you the info you need to make a decision:

  - If you agree with the match, choose "U+C" or "C".  The former copies some of the data from the import into the GnuCash transaction (date and description for sure, and maybe other fields; see also the "Append" checkbox at the bottom of the dialog).  "C" keeps your own data unmodified

  - If you disagree with the match, and need the import file's transaction to be added to GnuCash as a new, independent one, choose "A"

  - If you uncheck all three checkboxes, that will turn the transaction Red again and set it back to "Do not import (no action selected)".  When you ultimately click "OK", that import-file transaction will be ignored completely


Note that if you check any of the three checkboxes, the GnuCash transaction's Reconciled status will be set to "Cleared" (only the new one in the case of "A").  If you leave them all unchecked, the status won't change.


Hope this helps.
  - Eric

From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Wed May  6 22:12:16 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Thu, 07 May 2026 07:42:16 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Reconciliation problems NEW OCCURENCE
In-Reply-To: <01e001dcdd84$35d4c3b0$a17e4b10$@gmail.com>
References: <76FC14F0-1B53-454C-933F-DC1DBD82C033@gmail.com>
 <CADYgSb==DVgAS5HU9Ha3neS_3oQGffivUKrgwUv08W4+PsRH8A@mail.gmail.com>
 <DEB5A5D4-C8AF-43BA-8871-1C216F77B34F@yahoo.com>
 <00c601dcd8c5$6f80c820$4e825860$@gmail.com>
 <C014ABFC-A980-4D06-8F98-3CD31A8D57C5@yahoo.com>
 <01e001dcdd84$35d4c3b0$a17e4b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <955343AB-B9EF-4F95-B29D-73501A874D6C@yahoo.com>

Billie,

KEEP your messages on the list by using REPLY-ALL.

Although you haven't really addressed most of the questions I asked previously, it appears that your primary problem is that transactions you enter at one point are not there the next time you open GnuCash. 

Since you can use the software and open your file, hardware failure can be ruled out. 

In my 20-plus years using GnuCash (and many years using computers), selective data loss as you describe has only occurred because of failures on my part (forgetting to save), or failures in the broader system (power failure leading to loss of unsaved data). On rare occasions, a software glitch has caused a program to crash with the loss of unsaved data. I'll note that all of these problems relate back to the unsaved data part, which is why everyone advises to "save early, save often."

I have neither experienced nor heard any report of GnuCash losing data on its own in all that time, so something else is going on. 

It also seems odd to me that only this one account seems to be affected-- and only for certain types of transaction. 

Please refer to my April 30 message and try to answer the specific questions I asked then regarding your backup procedure. What you're describing only seems possible if you're opening the same (unedited) file over and over again.

In addition, please explain a little more clearly how it is that you entered transactions continually during the month, but only noticed they were missing at reconcile time. Do you see the transactions in your credit card register but not in the reconciliation window? 

You say you've used GnuCash for 12 years successfully. Have you changed anything significant in the system or the software prior to this problem arising? Have you had this credit card for a long time as well? Do you have other credit cards tracked in GnuCash? Are they okay? 

David T. 



On May 6, 2026 11:44:41 PM GMT+05:30, Billie 66 <darrah66 at gmail.com> wrote:
>Dear David,
>
>I will try to explain: 
>In April I went to reconcile a credit card account and found that all the charges for April were missing. I had entered them continually during the month, but no charges were listed, but the payments were listed, resulting in credit balances from March 30 forward. So I RE-entered all the charges and reconciled the account for April. 
>
>I then backed up Gnu wilh a new name in case the then current backup was corrupt. 
>
>Now I have the SAME problem with this account ? no charges listed from March 30 forward, but payments are listed. All the charges I had listed to make sure before I reconciled ? and during the month were gone!
>
>IN ADDITION- two other accounts were similarly affected- only they don?t show ANY charges for the life of the account! But the payments are showing. Even though One was reconciled on October 26, 2025 and all was ok at that time.  I have done reconciliations this year and they were current up until when April came along.
>
>Another- also-No charges showing for the life of the account, but program shows it reconciled up to December
>
> 
>
>NOW GET THIS- My BANK account had not been affected. I don?t understand why. I can?t imagine what I could?ve done to cause this behaviour of the program. I?m no IT engineer, but I have worked with data entry and accounting for 60 years and know how to use this program- which has been a great accounting program that I have been using for about a dozen years!!! I have installed the lates updates and appreciate the added features, but I am stumped.
>
> 
>
>I could possibly just enter a one time offsetting entry and start from then, but I?m afraid it will just keep happening.
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2026 11:20 AM
>To: darrah66 at gmail.com; Billie 66 <darrah66 at gmail.com>; gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>Subject: RE: [GNC] Reconciliation problems NEW OCCURENCE
>
> 
>
>Please keep messages on the list by using Reply-All.
>
>You assert that GnuCash (not "GNU") messed up your credit card account. Can you explain specifically how GnuCash messed up your data? And it appears to have happened again? 
>
>You say you have the SAME PROBLEM, does that mean the opening balance is wrong? That was, after all, your original question. 
>
>You entered all your purchases, and they are now gone? Is it possible that they are in a different account (e.g., IMBALANCE-USD), rather than the credit card account? 
>
>You say you backed up your file. How did you do this? Did you use File->Save As? If so, did you remember to open your original file again, so that the backup remains safe? Did you copy the data file to an external location in your file manager? Which file, precisely, did you back up? 
>
>Is it possible that you're opening different copies of your data file? That's the only way I can imagine data disappearing from a data file. 
>
>It frankly sounds like there are several problems occurring at once, and I have no idea how you should proceed to untangle them. 
>
>David T. 
>
> 
>
>On April 30, 2026 10:48:59 PM GMT+05:30, Billie 66 <darrah66 at gmail.com <mailto:darrah66 at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>Yes- I know how to look for the difference. But I found one transaction that corrected the new difference to $900. Which suggested to me a 9 Error. So that was solved.
>
>NOW HOWEVER: early in April GNU messed up my credit card account by now showing any of the purchases I had entered and reconciled. So I re-entered everything and reconciled it, and made a new backup on April7. Today- SAME Problem. Now that account has no purchases . only payments going back to August of 2025.Ys are indicating everything reconciled -so where are the purchase entries hiding???? No other accounts are affected. 
>
> 
>
>From: David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com <mailto:sunfish62 at yahoo.com> > 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2026 7:33 PM
>To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> ; David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> >; Billie Chandler <darrah66 at gmail.com <mailto:darrah66 at gmail.com> >
>Subject: Re: [GNC] Reconciliation problems
>
> 
>
>A couple of points:
>
>1) Generally, one can disregard the starting balance. The number to focus on is the ending balance. The documentation goes into some detail on this point. 
>
>2) You have a transaction for $1026.72 throwing things off. That is the difference between $709.96 and $1736.68 and also the difference between the cleared balance and the closing balance in your screen shot. Figure that out, and your problem should clear up. Perhaps you've entered something twice, or the ending balance wasn't entered correctly. 
>
>David T. 
>
> 
>
>On April 8, 2026 7:07:00 PM GMT+05:30, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>Here is one thing that you may try:
>
>https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_cannot_reconcile_an_account_with_the_Reconciliation_Assistant_and_I_don.27t_know_what_to_do_now.
>
>
>On Tue, Apr 7, 2026 at 9:48?PM Billie Chandler <darrah66 at gmail.com <mailto:darrah66 at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>I?m having trouble with the starting balance . After balancing perfectly
>the previous month, the next reconciliation picked up a wrong starting
>balance. The previous month balanced at $709.96 but as you can see, it
>picked up $1736.68. There is no way to correct that?
>Please help.
>
>
>Billie Chandler
>702-539-3911
>
>
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From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Fri May  8 11:57:32 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 10:57:32 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and deposit
In-Reply-To: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>
References: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>
Message-ID: <10tl15j$c4n$1@ciao.gmane.io>

If you just want to record one of the dates, but don't need to run 
reports using it, pick one of the transactions (usually the first one) 
and enter that with its date. You can then add the final deposit date in 
one of the various fields: Notes, Action, Memo. (alternatively, record 
it when you make the deposit, edit the date when it clears, and make a 
note of the initial date instead)

If you need both dates available to run reports, use a clearing (or as 
otherwise noted 'suspense') account. The first transaction is not to the 
eventual account but to the clearing/suspense account. Then when it is 
done, you make a transaction from that account to the real final 
intended account. Your question sounds like a case of electronic 
transfer from one account to another, so I'd go this route as you'll 
want both dates as they affect two real-world accounts.

Otherwise, this sounds like the age-old issue of writing a check and it 
not clearing the bank for a while. The simplest way to handle that is to 
simply not worry about it and mark the transaction 'cleared' when you 
find out it has been completed if you find that out before the next 
statement. If not, you'd just reconcile it when you get that statement.

If this is a case of physical withdrawal and physical deposit from one 
account then into another (rather than electronically) Any of the above 
would work, but you'd have twice the entries. (I always try to model the 
real-world activity as closely as I can.)

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/3/26 4:27 PM, Louise wrote:
> I would like to ask how you folks deal with the 5 - 7 days between when 
> a withdrawal is made, and the resulting transfer is deposited.
> 
> It would be nice to have the withdrawal date and the deposit date 
> correct, but I see no way of making it happen.
> 
> It is only a small thing, but if I could I would like to remove the 
> "confusion".


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Fri May  8 12:03:00 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 11:03:00 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
In-Reply-To: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>
References: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>
Message-ID: <10tl1fr$125b$1@ciao.gmane.io>

I would think one of the main benefits of a managed fund is to not track 
individual stock performance!

You're free to do so according to your own tolerance for pain.

Personally, I'd just treat it as a single fund.

There might be an exception if you also own one or more of those stocks 
independent of the fund and want to track overall performance just for 
your own info and peace of mind. But that might be better left for a 
spreadsheet or other outside app. The real-world transactions you commit 
are via the fund.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/3/26 4:36 PM, Louise wrote:
> I have a managed investment account where I deposit funds monthly, and 
> someone, or AI, decides what stocks to buy.
> 
> So far, in GnuCash, I have just been transferring my deposits to the 
> appropriate account. When the dividends are paid out I have simple been 
> allocating the amounts to a plain account per stock.
> 
> Should I be treating these "purchases" as stocks, or is this not necessary?


From griffin at bernevyl.com  Fri May  8 12:05:33 2026
From: griffin at bernevyl.com (Louise)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 10:05:33 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
In-Reply-To: <10tl1fr$125b$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>
 <10tl1fr$125b$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Message-ID: <509b0424-b8a2-4a58-915b-6d02b17b9dfd@bernevyl.com>

Thanks Adrien,

I'm trying to break my habit of making s more complicated than they need 
to be, so single fund it is!!

Thanks,

Louise



On 2026-05-08 10:03 a.m., Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> I would think one of the main benefits of a managed fund is to not 
> track individual stock performance!
>
> You're free to do so according to your own tolerance for pain.
>
> Personally, I'd just treat it as a single fund.
>
> There might be an exception if you also own one or more of those 
> stocks independent of the fund and want to track overall performance 
> just for your own info and peace of mind. But that might be better 
> left for a spreadsheet or other outside app. The real-world 
> transactions you commit are via the fund.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/3/26 4:36 PM, Louise wrote:
>> I have a managed investment account where I deposit funds monthly, 
>> and someone, or AI, decides what stocks to buy.
>>
>> So far, in GnuCash, I have just been transferring my deposits to the 
>> appropriate account. When the dividends are paid out I have simple 
>> been allocating the amounts to a plain account per stock.
>>
>> Should I be treating these "purchases" as stocks, or is this not 
>> necessary?
>
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From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Fri May  8 12:17:03 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 11:17:03 -0500
Subject: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.15 Released
In-Reply-To: <000601dcdb25$88915110$99b3f330$@carouselschool.com>
References: <1BC882B8-AAC1-4802-80BB-6C8FC186D48A@ceridwen.us>
 <000a01dcdb1c$7d0a5a70$771f0f50$@carouselschool.com>
 <568169623.317765.1777827998729@connect.xfinity.com>
 <000601dcdb25$88915110$99b3f330$@carouselschool.com>
Message-ID: <10tl2a6$55d$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Joe,

Thanks for getting back to the list on what the real solution (and 
problem) was.

What is your monitor setup?

There have been some issues with window placement on multi-monitor 
systems here and there. If this is causing that window to hide itself, 
the devs would probably want to know as someone else is going to have 
the same problem.

MS systems have a seemingly random habit of giving focus to, but hiding 
such windows on installs and upgrades of various software. I've seen it 
happen with single-monitor setups too. I was never able to reproduce it 
though to dig further. Usually, that situation forces me to explicitly 
raise the window via the taskbar, as it having focus, though not 
immediately visible, prevents me from doing anything else. I've yet to 
encounter your case where I needed to exit an installer and could go 
about my day without doing so.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/3/26 12:51 PM, joe.davis at carouselschool.com wrote:
> Actually it was much simpler and so simple I did not recognize. The problem
> was the final Next window to complete the operation was not visible. I found
> that my clicking on Setup icon showed a tiny rectangular window in the lower
> left hand corner. When I click the tiny rectangular window, I get options. I
> selected Restore and was able to see the Next window to complete the
> install. Then selected Finish to close the window. I then opened Gnucash and
> selected pin to taskbar.


From stepbystepfarm at comcast.net  Fri May  8 13:05:22 2026
From: stepbystepfarm at comcast.net (Michael or Penny Novack)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 13:05:22 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
In-Reply-To: <509b0424-b8a2-4a58-915b-6d02b17b9dfd@bernevyl.com>
References: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>
 <10tl1fr$125b$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <509b0424-b8a2-4a58-915b-6d02b17b9dfd@bernevyl.com>
Message-ID: <4b21ce90-d812-4e99-8eb1-1b9387f263c4@comcast.net>

On 5/8/2026 12:05 PM, Louise wrote:
> Thanks Adrien,
>
> I'm trying to break my habit of making s more complicated than they 
> need to be, so single fund it is!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Louise

Also consider, the gnucash program will support multiple books (as many 
as you want). That means you can have a? main/master set of books and a 
number of subsidiary books. Only the totals of the subsidiary books get 
entered into the main books, not all the detail.

This is NOT a new idea. Even back in the days of pen and ink on paper 
usual to have subsidiary books like "petty cash" and/or "cashbook" (for 
transactions JUST involving cash/bank and the most popular accounts). In 
a way, gnucash is like "cashbook accounting" (no journal) extended to 
the entire ledger) for transactions just involving two accounts << we 
who learned in the old days recognize that >>

So ... you could use a separate set of books to track the managed fund 
so you could see that detail with only then nets in your main books. 
Somebody like myself whose fund offers LOTS of investment options might 
want to do that.

You can even have virtual books (our solar system has virtual existence 
as if it were an actual business entity operating on a loan from us 
(since paid off) and? providing us with "income" << electric bill 
amounts we do NOT have to pay as well as actual income from sale of 
SRECs >> We also have a set of books for our donations as if that were a 
"donor directed fund" making both deductible and non-deductible 
donations. The main books need only THOSE totals, not the details of 
which organization received how much << but the donations book makes 
that detail available if needed >>

It is one thing in the main to hide unnecessary detail (like the sub 
accounts under "auto expense". But if a hundred or two accounts would be 
hidden, a good case for a subsidiary book.

Michael D Novack



From alspachde at gmail.com  Fri May  8 17:22:27 2026
From: alspachde at gmail.com (Dale Alspach)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 16:22:27 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Do I treat a managed investment account as stocks, or no?
In-Reply-To: <509b0424-b8a2-4a58-915b-6d02b17b9dfd@bernevyl.com>
References: <c782b123-e4e1-463b-8f82-e7565b625727@bernevyl.com>
 <10tl1fr$125b$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <509b0424-b8a2-4a58-915b-6d02b17b9dfd@bernevyl.com>
Message-ID: <CABn8Vz2k+hptQGAgmxiX+MktM8tmqcwt0P7y1-4g_UXQng3tew@mail.gmail.com>

Adrien's comments about trading stocks yourself reminded me of an IRS rule
which can cause problems. If you are subject to US income tax and have
multiple investment accounts (including pretax ones like IRAs) sales and
purchases of the same investment in different accounts within 30 days can
trigger the wash sales rule.
This just means that you may need to be aware of what is actually being
bought and sold in that managed account even if you do not track the values.
These issues affect the cost basis so if it happens you may need help from
a tax expert.
Dale

On Fri, May 8, 2026, 11:07 AM Louise <griffin at bernevyl.com> wrote:

> Thanks Adrien,
>
> I'm trying to break my habit of making s more complicated than they need
> to be, so single fund it is!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Louise
>
>
>
> On 2026-05-08 10:03 a.m., Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > I would think one of the main benefits of a managed fund is to not
> > track individual stock performance!
> >
> > You're free to do so according to your own tolerance for pain.
> >
> > Personally, I'd just treat it as a single fund.
> >
> > There might be an exception if you also own one or more of those
> > stocks independent of the fund and want to track overall performance
> > just for your own info and peace of mind. But that might be better
> > left for a spreadsheet or other outside app. The real-world
> > transactions you commit are via the fund.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 5/3/26 4:36 PM, Louise wrote:
> >> I have a managed investment account where I deposit funds monthly,
> >> and someone, or AI, decides what stocks to buy.
> >>
> >> So far, in GnuCash, I have just been transferring my deposits to the
> >> appropriate account. When the dividends are paid out I have simple
> >> been allocating the amounts to a plain account per stock.
> >>
> >> Should I be treating these "purchases" as stocks, or is this not
> >> necessary?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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From kalpesh.patel at usa.net  Fri May  8 17:44:17 2026
From: kalpesh.patel at usa.net (Kalpesh Patel)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 17:44:17 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and deposit
In-Reply-To: <10tl15j$c4n$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>
 <10tl15j$c4n$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Message-ID: <006c01dcdf33$d2571200$77053600$@usa.net>

I normally put down the date I transact/write check, etc., and then when I import transaction from the financial institutions I update the date to the one that was posted with them. This assures me that there are sufficient funds in the account to cover all outstanding transactions without incurring any type of fee.

This was discussed not too far distance in time (few months ago), and, however, it was bought up that what I do is not a good idea for number of good reasons (along with examples), and specifically when the book is used for official record keeping.

For me this works as the book is just for me, myself and I, but as Adrien mentioned you may need to resort to 'suspense' account if you truly want correctly timed denoted one. IMHO, the transaction should have the date it was transacted on, and then the import should permit insert of the posted date for in its leg of the transaction (three total dates).  Thus when you are in the general ledger it should "sort" by the transaction date and then each individual register should "sort" by its leg of the transaction.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> 
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2026 11:58 AM
To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and deposit

If you just want to record one of the dates, but don't need to run reports using it, pick one of the transactions (usually the first one) and enter that with its date. You can then add the final deposit date in one of the various fields: Notes, Action, Memo. (alternatively, record it when you make the deposit, edit the date when it clears, and make a note of the initial date instead)

If you need both dates available to run reports, use a clearing (or as otherwise noted 'suspense') account. The first transaction is not to the eventual account but to the clearing/suspense account. Then when it is done, you make a transaction from that account to the real final intended account. Your question sounds like a case of electronic transfer from one account to another, so I'd go this route as you'll want both dates as they affect two real-world accounts.

Otherwise, this sounds like the age-old issue of writing a check and it not clearing the bank for a while. The simplest way to handle that is to simply not worry about it and mark the transaction 'cleared' when you find out it has been completed if you find that out before the next statement. If not, you'd just reconcile it when you get that statement.

If this is a case of physical withdrawal and physical deposit from one account then into another (rather than electronically) Any of the above would work, but you'd have twice the entries. (I always try to model the real-world activity as closely as I can.)

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/3/26 4:27 PM, Louise wrote:
> I would like to ask how you folks deal with the 5 - 7 days between 
> when a withdrawal is made, and the resulting transfer is deposited.
> 
> It would be nice to have the withdrawal date and the deposit date 
> correct, but I see no way of making it happen.
> 
> It is only a small thing, but if I could I would like to remove the 
> "confusion".




From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Fri May  8 18:44:02 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (Cashdera)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 15:44:02 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
Message-ID: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
analytics companion for GnuCash.

It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
cache, and shows analytics such as:

- monthly cashflow
- category trends
- Sankey money flow
- transaction search
- budget vs actual
- net worth timeline
- year-over-year comparison
- CSV/PDF report export

The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
modified.

Privacy/safety notes:

- local desktop app
- no account
- no cloud upload
- no telemetry
- independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
- Windows-only beta
- unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
- please test on a backup/copy first

GitHub public beta release:
https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0

Screenshots:
https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you

I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:

1. import issues with real books
2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
3. reports/workflows that are missing

Thank you,

Ars

From david.carlson.417 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 00:16:58 2026
From: david.carlson.417 at gmail.com (David Carlson)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 23:16:58 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADYgSbmR7=ssXMzar9YGA99Rzmt6OBPT94Auufnj30vCTMDg4g@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting!  When will you release a version for Linux?

On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 5:50?PM Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
> analytics companion for GnuCash.
>
> It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
> cache, and shows analytics such as:
>
> - monthly cashflow
> - category trends
> - Sankey money flow
> - transaction search
> - budget vs actual
> - net worth timeline
> - year-over-year comparison
> - CSV/PDF report export
>
> The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
> on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
> modified.
>
> Privacy/safety notes:
>
> - local desktop app
> - no account
> - no cloud upload
> - no telemetry
> - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
> - Windows-only beta
> - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
> - please test on a backup/copy first
>
> GitHub public beta release:
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
>
> Screenshots:
>
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
>
> I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:
>
> 1. import issues with real books
> 2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
> 3. reports/workflows that are missing
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ars
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
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From tydeman.fred at gmail.com  Sat May  9 00:21:47 2026
From: tydeman.fred at gmail.com (Fred Tydeman)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 21:21:47 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK1r+o1sWgqtposdt0MNmCqvkK3xOrqAtXxiZW=DygdsjQBybA@mail.gmail.com>

3. reports/workflows that are missing
>

I am mainly a Linux user, so have not used the tool yet.
It would be nice if there was a report of
  stocks no longer owned, but still getting price data for them
  stocks owned, but not getting price data for them

From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 01:53:51 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 22:53:51 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CADYgSbmR7=ssXMzar9YGA99Rzmt6OBPT94Auufnj30vCTMDg4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADYgSbmR7=ssXMzar9YGA99Rzmt6OBPT94Auufnj30vCTMDg4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57d4aa05-e05e-4a4e-8cae-149b6cb3051a@gmail.com>

Hello David,? thanks for the interest!

Linux is definitely coming. Cashdera is built with Tauri v2, which 
supports cross-platform builds, so it is more a matter of prioritization 
than technical impossibility.
For the MVP, I started with Windows because that is my own environment 
,and I wanted to validate the product before maintaining three platform 
builds. But I've already heard the Linux question from several people, 
so it moves up the priority list.

My current plan:

1. Stabilize Windows beta based on real book feedback (next 2-4 weeks).
2. Linux build (2-3 weeks after that).
3. macOS if enough demand.

I'll announce it here and on r/GnuCash when the Linux beta is ready.

In the meantime, if you have a Windows machine for testing or can share 
feedback on the architecture/import process, that would be very helpful 
for the foundation both platforms will use.

Thanks,

Ars


On 5/8/2026 9:16 PM, David Carlson wrote:
> Interesting!? When will you release a version for Linux?
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 5:50?PM Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
>     analytics companion for GnuCash.
>
>     It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
>     cache, and shows analytics such as:
>
>     - monthly cashflow
>     - category trends
>     - Sankey money flow
>     - transaction search
>     - budget vs actual
>     - net worth timeline
>     - year-over-year comparison
>     - CSV/PDF report export
>
>     The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
>     on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
>     modified.
>
>     Privacy/safety notes:
>
>     - local desktop app
>     - no account
>     - no cloud upload
>     - no telemetry
>     - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
>     - Windows-only beta
>     - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
>     - please test on a backup/copy first
>
>     GitHub public beta release:
>     https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
>
>     Screenshots:
>     https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
>
>     I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users,
>     especially:
>
>     1. import issues with real books
>     2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
>     3. reports/workflows that are missing
>
>     Thank you,
>
>     Ars
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 02:02:30 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 23:02:30 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CAK1r+o1sWgqtposdt0MNmCqvkK3xOrqAtXxiZW=DygdsjQBybA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK1r+o1sWgqtposdt0MNmCqvkK3xOrqAtXxiZW=DygdsjQBybA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88cb8a80-d663-415e-bc01-99b76c451075@gmail.com>

Thanks for testing and for the concrete suggestions.

Those two reports would indeed be useful for anyone managing an 
investment portfolio in GnuCash. You've identified a real pain point: 
orphaned price history for sold positions, and the opposite?missing 
price data for current holdings.

For the MVP, Cashdera is focused on cashflow, budget tracking, net worth 
trends, and category/account analysis. Stock portfolio reports with 
price reconciliation are a step further and would need:

1. Integration with GnuCash's price history table (not a blocker, but 
adds complexity).
2. A way to surface which prices are stale or missing (diagnostic logic).
3. User workflow for adding/updating prices if needed.

This is definitely interesting enough to put on the backlog, especially 
if other GnuCash users also ask for it. Once the Windows beta stabilizes 
and Linux ships, I can explore more investment-specific analytics.

For now, the best workaround is probably still GnuCash's own price 
editor or a script. But I'll keep the feature request in mind and 
reference it when planning the next release.

Thanks again for the feedback and for your patience with the 
Windows-only MVP.

Best,

Ars




On 5/8/2026 9:21 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
>
>
>     3. reports/workflows that are missing
>
>
> I am mainly a Linux user, so have not used the tool yet.
> It would be nice if there was a report of
> ? stocks no longer owned, but still getting price data for them
> ? stocks owned, but not getting price data for them

From jourmaken at outlook.com  Sat May  9 01:33:11 2026
From: jourmaken at outlook.com (Jour Maken)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 11:03:11 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and deposit
In-Reply-To: <006c01dcdf33$d2571200$77053600$@usa.net>
References: <fde2cb7c-039d-4e61-a0c0-fe67411a80e3@bernevyl.com>
 <10tl15j$c4n$1@ciao.gmane.io> <006c01dcdf33$d2571200$77053600$@usa.net>
Message-ID: <SI2PR03MB5434D6F1099C6D43ACDC7224B23A2@SI2PR03MB5434.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com>

I use the Loans and Advances account to record such transactions with 
two separate entries. This ensures reconciliation against bank 
statements is correct for the source / destination accounts.

On 09/05/26 03:14, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
> I normally put down the date I transact/write check, etc., and then when I import transaction from the financial institutions I update the date to the one that was posted with them. This assures me that there are sufficient funds in the account to cover all outstanding transactions without incurring any type of fee.
>
> This was discussed not too far distance in time (few months ago), and, however, it was bought up that what I do is not a good idea for number of good reasons (along with examples), and specifically when the book is used for official record keeping.
>
> For me this works as the book is just for me, myself and I, but as Adrien mentioned you may need to resort to 'suspense' account if you truly want correctly timed denoted one. IMHO, the transaction should have the date it was transacted on, and then the import should permit insert of the posted date for in its leg of the transaction (three total dates).  Thus when you are in the general ledger it should "sort" by the transaction date and then each individual register should "sort" by its leg of the transaction.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrien Monteleone<adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> 
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2026 11:58 AM
> To:gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Dealing with the time delay between withdrawal and deposit
>
> If you just want to record one of the dates, but don't need to run reports using it, pick one of the transactions (usually the first one) and enter that with its date. You can then add the final deposit date in one of the various fields: Notes, Action, Memo. (alternatively, record it when you make the deposit, edit the date when it clears, and make a note of the initial date instead)
>
> If you need both dates available to run reports, use a clearing (or as otherwise noted 'suspense') account. The first transaction is not to the eventual account but to the clearing/suspense account. Then when it is done, you make a transaction from that account to the real final intended account. Your question sounds like a case of electronic transfer from one account to another, so I'd go this route as you'll want both dates as they affect two real-world accounts.
>
> Otherwise, this sounds like the age-old issue of writing a check and it not clearing the bank for a while. The simplest way to handle that is to simply not worry about it and mark the transaction 'cleared' when you find out it has been completed if you find that out before the next statement. If not, you'd just reconcile it when you get that statement.
>
> If this is a case of physical withdrawal and physical deposit from one account then into another (rather than electronically) Any of the above would work, but you'd have twice the entries. (I always try to model the real-world activity as closely as I can.)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/3/26 4:27 PM, Louise wrote:
>> I would like to ask how you folks deal with the 5 - 7 days between
>> when a withdrawal is made, and the resulting transfer is deposited.
>>
>> It would be nice to have the withdrawal date and the deposit date
>> correct, but I see no way of making it happen.
>>
>> It is only a small thing, but if I could I would like to remove the
>> "confusion".
>
>
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From devaps at myyahoo.com  Sat May  9 08:29:08 2026
From: devaps at myyahoo.com (Deva PS)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 17:59:08 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <mailman.158.1778308326.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
References: <mailman.158.1778308326.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Message-ID: <0C9379AD-D379-4228-B69D-F231199350B4@myyahoo.com>

Ars,

Please consider a macOS release as well. I think plenty of members on this list are macOS users. 

It will be nice to see a Balance Sheet report that gives me an option to choose price source as FIFO. In GnuCash, I can get avg cost or current market value, but our tax authority in India needs FIFO. Right now, I get that from Investment Performance report (not remembering the exact name) and replace the values in the Balance Sheet before I send it to my tax consultant. 

Cheers. 

> On 9 May 2026, at 12:07?PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
> 
> From: Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
> Message-ID:
>    <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
> analytics companion for GnuCash.
> 
> It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
> cache, and shows analytics such as:
> 
> - monthly cashflow
> - category trends
> - Sankey money flow
> - transaction search
> - budget vs actual
> - net worth timeline
> - year-over-year comparison
> - CSV/PDF report export
> 
> The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
> on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
> modified.
> 
> Privacy/safety notes:
> 
> - local desktop app
> - no account
> - no cloud upload
> - no telemetry
> - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
> - Windows-only beta
> - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
> - please test on a backup/copy first
> 
> GitHub public beta release:
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
> 
> Screenshots:
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
> 
> I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:
> 
> 1. import issues with real books
> 2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
> 3. reports/workflows that are missing
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Ars
> 
> 
> ------------------------------


From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 08:32:08 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 13:32:08 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <0C9379AD-D379-4228-B69D-F231199350B4@myyahoo.com>
References: <mailman.158.1778308326.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <0C9379AD-D379-4228-B69D-F231199350B4@myyahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAP-7JQ7uKYr09nkcqBGpsnp7MWonZE54Ckq=QrMM7Qra-pd99A@mail.gmail.com>

Should we really be supporting a closed source option here? I?m not sure
why the source doesn?t come along with the package

On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 13:31, Deva PS via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

> Ars,
>
> Please consider a macOS release as well. I think plenty of members on this
> list are macOS users.
>
> It will be nice to see a Balance Sheet report that gives me an option to
> choose price source as FIFO. In GnuCash, I can get avg cost or current
> market value, but our tax authority in India needs FIFO. Right now, I get
> that from Investment Performance report (not remembering the exact name)
> and replace the values in the Balance Sheet before I send it to my tax
> consultant.
>
> Cheers.
>
> > On 9 May 2026, at 12:07?PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
> >
> > From: Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com>
> > To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
> > analytics companion for GnuCash.
> >
> > It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
> > cache, and shows analytics such as:
> >
> > - monthly cashflow
> > - category trends
> > - Sankey money flow
> > - transaction search
> > - budget vs actual
> > - net worth timeline
> > - year-over-year comparison
> > - CSV/PDF report export
> >
> > The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
> > on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
> > modified.
> >
> > Privacy/safety notes:
> >
> > - local desktop app
> > - no account
> > - no cloud upload
> > - no telemetry
> > - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
> > - Windows-only beta
> > - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
> > - please test on a backup/copy first
> >
> > GitHub public beta release:
> > https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
> >
> > Screenshots:
> >
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
> >
> > I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:
> >
> > 1. import issues with real books
> > 2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
> > 3. reports/workflows that are missing
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Ars
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
>
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From kalpesh.patel at usa.net  Sat May  9 10:25:05 2026
From: kalpesh.patel at usa.net (Kalpesh Patel)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 10:25:05 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002e01dcdfbf$a1efb0e0$e5cf12a0$@usa.net>

That is pretty cool. 

I was looking to do something like that that was offline from GNC as well. May be I'll see if I can just incorporate ideas into this one. I am on Windows (now and then go back to Linux) as well so runway shouldn't be that long to pick it up.

By any chance does it have coding from AI? I am a bit not sold on its hallucinations, biases and lies it can embed.

Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
From: Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2026 6:44 PM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash

Hello,

I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent analytics companion for GnuCash.

It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite cache, and shows analytics such as:

- monthly cashflow
- category trends
- Sankey money flow
- transaction search
- budget vs actual
- net worth timeline
- year-over-year comparison
- CSV/PDF report export

The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not modified.

Privacy/safety notes:

- local desktop app
- no account
- no cloud upload
- no telemetry
- independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
- Windows-only beta
- unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
- please test on a backup/copy first

GitHub public beta release:
https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0

Screenshots:
https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you

I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:

1. import issues with real books
2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports 3. reports/workflows that are missing

Thank you,

Ars



From jcriswell58 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 12:06:59 2026
From: jcriswell58 at gmail.com (Jerry Criswell (JC))
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 11:06:59 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Change to The Since Last Run Screen
Message-ID: <f05ee818-66d0-490e-b0f0-72be7f56a94a@gmail.com>

When the Show Last Run screen pops up, it shows Transaction, Date and 
Status values.? There is a column heading called Value.? How do I get 
that to show the upcoming Value?

JC

From jralls at ceridwen.us  Sat May  9 13:13:10 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 10:13:10 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CAP-7JQ7uKYr09nkcqBGpsnp7MWonZE54Ckq=QrMM7Qra-pd99A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.158.1778308326.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <0C9379AD-D379-4228-B69D-F231199350B4@myyahoo.com>
 <CAP-7JQ7uKYr09nkcqBGpsnp7MWonZE54Ckq=QrMM7Qra-pd99A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FFFBBF6C-50B4-4B75-8C83-CF7533020EFE@ceridwen.us>

This offering is NOT Free software:
https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/EULA.txt
https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/LICENSE.txt

The author is offering a free public beta but clearly intends to make this a paid product. He?s asking for you to beta-test his work with no offer of compensation.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 9, 2026, at 05:32, Elliot Graham <elliotgraham94 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Should we really be supporting a closed source option here? I?m not sure
> why the source doesn?t come along with the package
> 
> On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 13:31, Deva PS via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
>> Ars,
>> 
>> Please consider a macOS release as well. I think plenty of members on this
>> list are macOS users.
>> 
>> It will be nice to see a Balance Sheet report that gives me an option to
>> choose price source as FIFO. In GnuCash, I can get avg cost or current
>> market value, but our tax authority in India needs FIFO. Right now, I get
>> that from Investment Performance report (not remembering the exact name)
>> and replace the values in the Balance Sheet before I send it to my tax
>> consultant.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>>> On 9 May 2026, at 12:07?PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com>
>>> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>>> Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
>>> Message-ID:
>>>   <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
>>> analytics companion for GnuCash.
>>> 
>>> It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
>>> cache, and shows analytics such as:
>>> 
>>> - monthly cashflow
>>> - category trends
>>> - Sankey money flow
>>> - transaction search
>>> - budget vs actual
>>> - net worth timeline
>>> - year-over-year comparison
>>> - CSV/PDF report export
>>> 
>>> The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
>>> on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
>>> modified.
>>> 
>>> Privacy/safety notes:
>>> 
>>> - local desktop app
>>> - no account
>>> - no cloud upload
>>> - no telemetry
>>> - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
>>> - Windows-only beta
>>> - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
>>> - please test on a backup/copy first
>>> 
>>> GitHub public beta release:
>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
>>> 
>>> Screenshots:
>>> 
>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
>>> 
>>> I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:
>>> 
>>> 1. import issues with real books
>>> 2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
>>> 3. reports/workflows that are missing
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Ars
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>> 
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From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 13:17:45 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 18:17:45 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <FFFBBF6C-50B4-4B75-8C83-CF7533020EFE@ceridwen.us>
References: <mailman.158.1778308326.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <0C9379AD-D379-4228-B69D-F231199350B4@myyahoo.com>
 <CAP-7JQ7uKYr09nkcqBGpsnp7MWonZE54Ckq=QrMM7Qra-pd99A@mail.gmail.com>
 <FFFBBF6C-50B4-4B75-8C83-CF7533020EFE@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <CAP-7JQ7KFXQawS2Mf=G4UHpystbe8iEp8Aqr3Y8uwcZR-BVXrg@mail.gmail.com>

Agree entirely. I don?t think we should be advocating for or supporting
this testing.

On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 18:15, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:

> This offering is NOT Free software:
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/EULA.txt
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
>
> The author is offering a free public beta but clearly intends to make this
> a paid product. He?s asking for you to beta-test his work with no offer of
> compensation.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> On May 9, 2026, at 05:32, Elliot Graham <elliotgraham94 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Should we really be supporting a closed source option here? I?m not sure
> why the source doesn?t come along with the package
>
> On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 13:31, Deva PS via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> Ars,
>
> Please consider a macOS release as well. I think plenty of members on this
> list are macOS users.
>
> It will be nice to see a Balance Sheet report that gives me an option to
> choose price source as FIFO. In GnuCash, I can get avg cost or current
> market value, but our tax authority in India needs FIFO. Right now, I get
> that from Investment Performance report (not remembering the exact name)
> and replace the values in the Balance Sheet before I send it to my tax
> consultant.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On 9 May 2026, at 12:07?PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
>
> From: Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
> Message-ID:
>   <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello,
>
> I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
> analytics companion for GnuCash.
>
> It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
> cache, and shows analytics such as:
>
> - monthly cashflow
> - category trends
> - Sankey money flow
> - transaction search
> - budget vs actual
> - net worth timeline
> - year-over-year comparison
> - CSV/PDF report export
>
> The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
> on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
> modified.
>
> Privacy/safety notes:
>
> - local desktop app
> - no account
> - no cloud upload
> - no telemetry
> - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
> - Windows-only beta
> - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
> - please test on a backup/copy first
>
> GitHub public beta release:
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
>
> Screenshots:
>
>
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
>
>
> I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:
>
> 1. import issues with real books
> 2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
> 3. reports/workflows that are missing
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ars
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
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From tom.route36 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 15:33:15 2026
From: tom.route36 at gmail.com (Tom Route36)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 13:33:15 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Change to The Since Last Run Screen
In-Reply-To: <f05ee818-66d0-490e-b0f0-72be7f56a94a@gmail.com>
References: <f05ee818-66d0-490e-b0f0-72be7f56a94a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d7eea6af-dc84-4ff3-986b-09d730cb2125@gmail.com>

Actually, I'm curious about that column too.? In the GnuCash manual, 
section 8.2 for the "Since Last Run" Assistant says that "you can see 
three columns".? But it only documents two of those columns -- 
"Transaction" and "State" (which apparently got changed at some point to 
"Status").? There's no info in that section 8.2 about the third column 
that it mentions, or even what its name is.? Is there any documentation 
about what is supposed to be displayed in that third column?

Tom


On 5/9/2026 10:06 AM, Jerry Criswell (JC) wrote:
> When the Show Last Run screen pops up, it shows Transaction, Date and 
> Status values.? There is a column heading called Value.? How do I get 
> that to show the upcoming Value?
>
> JC
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From sh025622 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 16:03:16 2026
From: sh025622 at gmail.com (Sherlock)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 13:03:16 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Change to The Since Last Run Screen
In-Reply-To: <f05ee818-66d0-490e-b0f0-72be7f56a94a@gmail.com>
References: <f05ee818-66d0-490e-b0f0-72be7f56a94a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10to3u4$mid$1@ciao.gmane.io>

The value column is used to display and edit the value of variables 
referenced in the formulas of the scheduled transaction templates.

See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki 
Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas

Regards,

Sherlock

On 5/9/26 9:06 AM, Jerry Criswell (JC) wrote:
> When the Show Last Run screen pops up, it shows Transaction, Date and 
> Status values.? There is a column heading called Value.? How do I get 
> that to show the upcoming Value?


From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Sat May  9 17:48:34 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 14:48:34 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <CAP-7JQ7KFXQawS2Mf=G4UHpystbe8iEp8Aqr3Y8uwcZR-BVXrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.158.1778308326.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <0C9379AD-D379-4228-B69D-F231199350B4@myyahoo.com>
 <CAP-7JQ7uKYr09nkcqBGpsnp7MWonZE54Ckq=QrMM7Qra-pd99A@mail.gmail.com>
 <FFFBBF6C-50B4-4B75-8C83-CF7533020EFE@ceridwen.us>
 <CAP-7JQ7KFXQawS2Mf=G4UHpystbe8iEp8Aqr3Y8uwcZR-BVXrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1afa6f67-15a9-4b4e-aedd-07385fd93d62@gmail.com>

Hi all,

 ? That is a fair criticism, and I should have been clearer in my wording.

 ? Cashdera is not Free Software in the FSF/open-source sense. It is a 
no-cost proprietary public beta at this stage. I used
 ? ?free? to mean no-cost, but I understand that on a GnuCash mailing 
list that wording is ambiguous and can be misleading.

 ? I am not asking the GnuCash project, this mailing list, or its 
maintainers to endorse, support, or advocate for Cashdera.
 ? I shared it because it is built around GnuCash files and I thought 
some users might be interested in trying an independent
 ? analytics companion.

 ? If proprietary software announcements or testing requests are not 
appropriate here, I respect that and will not continue
 ? promoting it on this list.

 ? For clarity:

 ? - Cashdera is independent software and is not affiliated with GnuCash.
 ? - It is currently proprietary, not open source.
 ? - The beta is no-cost, but that does not make it Free Software.
 ? - The source GnuCash file is not modified.
 ? - The app runs locally, with no account, no cloud upload, and no 
telemetry in this beta.

 ? Deva, thank you also for the macOS and FIFO balance sheet 
suggestions. I have noted them, but I do not want to turn this
 ? thread into product support if the list considers the project 
off-topic or inappropriate.

 ? Thanks for the correction and the candid feedback.

 ? Regards,

 ? Ars



On 5/9/2026 10:17 AM, Elliot Graham wrote:
> Agree entirely. I don?t think we should be advocating for or supporting
> this testing.
>
> On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 18:15, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>
>> This offering is NOT Free software:
>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/EULA.txt
>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
>>
>> The author is offering a free public beta but clearly intends to make this
>> a paid product. He?s asking for you to beta-test his work with no offer of
>> compensation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> On May 9, 2026, at 05:32, Elliot Graham <elliotgraham94 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Should we really be supporting a closed source option here? I?m not sure
>> why the source doesn?t come along with the package
>>
>> On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 13:31, Deva PS via gnucash-user <
>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ars,
>>
>> Please consider a macOS release as well. I think plenty of members on this
>> list are macOS users.
>>
>> It will be nice to see a Balance Sheet report that gives me an option to
>> choose price source as FIFO. In GnuCash, I can get avg cost or current
>> market value, but our tax authority in India needs FIFO. Right now, I get
>> that from Investment Performance report (not remembering the exact name)
>> and replace the values in the Balance Sheet before I send it to my tax
>> consultant.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> On 9 May 2026, at 12:07?PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
>>
>> From: Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com>
>> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>> Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
>> Message-ID:
>>    <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
>> analytics companion for GnuCash.
>>
>> It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
>> cache, and shows analytics such as:
>>
>> - monthly cashflow
>> - category trends
>> - Sankey money flow
>> - transaction search
>> - budget vs actual
>> - net worth timeline
>> - year-over-year comparison
>> - CSV/PDF report export
>>
>> The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
>> on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
>> modified.
>>
>> Privacy/safety notes:
>>
>> - local desktop app
>> - no account
>> - no cloud upload
>> - no telemetry
>> - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
>> - Windows-only beta
>> - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
>> - please test on a backup/copy first
>>
>> GitHub public beta release:
>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
>>
>> Screenshots:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
>>
>>
>> I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:
>>
>> 1. import issues with real books
>> 2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
>> 3. reports/workflows that are missing
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Ars
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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From jralls at ceridwen.us  Sat May  9 18:07:54 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2026 15:07:54 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <1afa6f67-15a9-4b4e-aedd-07385fd93d62@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.158.1778308326.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <0C9379AD-D379-4228-B69D-F231199350B4@myyahoo.com>
 <CAP-7JQ7uKYr09nkcqBGpsnp7MWonZE54Ckq=QrMM7Qra-pd99A@mail.gmail.com>
 <FFFBBF6C-50B4-4B75-8C83-CF7533020EFE@ceridwen.us>
 <CAP-7JQ7KFXQawS2Mf=G4UHpystbe8iEp8Aqr3Y8uwcZR-BVXrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1afa6f67-15a9-4b4e-aedd-07385fd93d62@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F8810F0E-B86C-4AF5-B88A-E49D64B6A5D5@ceridwen.us>

BS. You ?shared" it because the people on this list are your target market: It?s not like your program would be useful to anyone who isn?t a GnuCash user.

You might not be charging for the ?public beta? but it?s clear that you?re planning to charge for the final product. That?s not ?free? in any sense of the word. The only thing free here is what you?re trying to get: Free advertising and free test engineering services.

That?s not welcome here.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 9, 2026, at 2:48?PM, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>   That is a fair criticism, and I should have been clearer in my wording.
> 
>   Cashdera is not Free Software in the FSF/open-source sense. It is a no-cost proprietary public beta at this stage. I used
>   ?free? to mean no-cost, but I understand that on a GnuCash mailing list that wording is ambiguous and can be misleading.
> 
>   I am not asking the GnuCash project, this mailing list, or its maintainers to endorse, support, or advocate for Cashdera.
>   I shared it because it is built around GnuCash files and I thought some users might be interested in trying an independent
>   analytics companion.
> 
>   If proprietary software announcements or testing requests are not appropriate here, I respect that and will not continue
>   promoting it on this list.
> 
>   For clarity:
> 
>   - Cashdera is independent software and is not affiliated with GnuCash.
>   - It is currently proprietary, not open source.
>   - The beta is no-cost, but that does not make it Free Software.
>   - The source GnuCash file is not modified.
>   - The app runs locally, with no account, no cloud upload, and no telemetry in this beta.
> 
>   Deva, thank you also for the macOS and FIFO balance sheet suggestions. I have noted them, but I do not want to turn this
>   thread into product support if the list considers the project off-topic or inappropriate.
> 
>   Thanks for the correction and the candid feedback.
> 
>   Regards,
> 
>   Ars
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/9/2026 10:17 AM, Elliot Graham wrote:
>> Agree entirely. I don?t think we should be advocating for or supporting
>> this testing.
>> 
>> On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 18:15, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>> 
>>> This offering is NOT Free software:
>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/EULA.txt
>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
>>> 
>>> The author is offering a free public beta but clearly intends to make this
>>> a paid product. He?s asking for you to beta-test his work with no offer of
>>> compensation.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 9, 2026, at 05:32, Elliot Graham <elliotgraham94 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Should we really be supporting a closed source option here? I?m not sure
>>> why the source doesn?t come along with the package
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 13:31, Deva PS via gnucash-user <
>>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ars,
>>> 
>>> Please consider a macOS release as well. I think plenty of members on this
>>> list are macOS users.
>>> 
>>> It will be nice to see a Balance Sheet report that gives me an option to
>>> choose price source as FIFO. In GnuCash, I can get avg cost or current
>>> market value, but our tax authority in India needs FIFO. Right now, I get
>>> that from Investment Performance report (not remembering the exact name)
>>> and replace the values in the Balance Sheet before I send it to my tax
>>> consultant.
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> On 9 May 2026, at 12:07?PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com>
>>> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>>> Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
>>> Message-ID:
>>>   <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
>>> analytics companion for GnuCash.
>>> 
>>> It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
>>> cache, and shows analytics such as:
>>> 
>>> - monthly cashflow
>>> - category trends
>>> - Sankey money flow
>>> - transaction search
>>> - budget vs actual
>>> - net worth timeline
>>> - year-over-year comparison
>>> - CSV/PDF report export
>>> 
>>> The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
>>> on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
>>> modified.
>>> 
>>> Privacy/safety notes:
>>> 
>>> - local desktop app
>>> - no account
>>> - no cloud upload
>>> - no telemetry
>>> - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
>>> - Windows-only beta
>>> - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
>>> - please test on a backup/copy first
>>> 
>>> GitHub public beta release:
>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
>>> 
>>> Screenshots:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:
>>> 
>>> 1. import issues with real books
>>> 2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
>>> 3. reports/workflows that are missing
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Ars
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
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From cleanoutmyshed at gmail.com  Sat May  9 20:17:46 2026
From: cleanoutmyshed at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 10:17:46 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
In-Reply-To: <F8810F0E-B86C-4AF5-B88A-E49D64B6A5D5@ceridwen.us>
References: <mailman.158.1778308326.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <0C9379AD-D379-4228-B69D-F231199350B4@myyahoo.com>
 <CAP-7JQ7uKYr09nkcqBGpsnp7MWonZE54Ckq=QrMM7Qra-pd99A@mail.gmail.com>
 <FFFBBF6C-50B4-4B75-8C83-CF7533020EFE@ceridwen.us>
 <CAP-7JQ7KFXQawS2Mf=G4UHpystbe8iEp8Aqr3Y8uwcZR-BVXrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1afa6f67-15a9-4b4e-aedd-07385fd93d62@gmail.com>
 <F8810F0E-B86C-4AF5-B88A-E49D64B6A5D5@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <2e29ffb9-2d57-4e5a-8550-4158be0bbb00@gmail.com>

Agree 100%

On 10/05/2026 8:07 am, John Ralls wrote:
> BS. You ?shared" it because the people on this list are your target market: It?s not like your program would be useful to anyone who isn?t a GnuCash user.
> 
> You might not be charging for the ?public beta? but it?s clear that you?re planning to charge for the final product. That?s not ?free? in any sense of the word. The only thing free here is what you?re trying to get: Free advertising and free test engineering services.
> 
> That?s not welcome here.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>> On May 9, 2026, at 2:48?PM, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>    That is a fair criticism, and I should have been clearer in my wording.
>>
>>    Cashdera is not Free Software in the FSF/open-source sense. It is a no-cost proprietary public beta at this stage. I used
>>    ?free? to mean no-cost, but I understand that on a GnuCash mailing list that wording is ambiguous and can be misleading.
>>
>>    I am not asking the GnuCash project, this mailing list, or its maintainers to endorse, support, or advocate for Cashdera.
>>    I shared it because it is built around GnuCash files and I thought some users might be interested in trying an independent
>>    analytics companion.
>>
>>    If proprietary software announcements or testing requests are not appropriate here, I respect that and will not continue
>>    promoting it on this list.
>>
>>    For clarity:
>>
>>    - Cashdera is independent software and is not affiliated with GnuCash.
>>    - It is currently proprietary, not open source.
>>    - The beta is no-cost, but that does not make it Free Software.
>>    - The source GnuCash file is not modified.
>>    - The app runs locally, with no account, no cloud upload, and no telemetry in this beta.
>>
>>    Deva, thank you also for the macOS and FIFO balance sheet suggestions. I have noted them, but I do not want to turn this
>>    thread into product support if the list considers the project off-topic or inappropriate.
>>
>>    Thanks for the correction and the candid feedback.
>>
>>    Regards,
>>
>>    Ars
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/9/2026 10:17 AM, Elliot Graham wrote:
>>> Agree entirely. I don?t think we should be advocating for or supporting
>>> this testing.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 18:15, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This offering is NOT Free software:
>>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/EULA.txt
>>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
>>>>
>>>> The author is offering a free public beta but clearly intends to make this
>>>> a paid product. He?s asking for you to beta-test his work with no offer of
>>>> compensation.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 9, 2026, at 05:32, Elliot Graham <elliotgraham94 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Should we really be supporting a closed source option here? I?m not sure
>>>> why the source doesn?t come along with the package
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 9 May 2026 at 13:31, Deva PS via gnucash-user <
>>>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ars,
>>>>
>>>> Please consider a macOS release as well. I think plenty of members on this
>>>> list are macOS users.
>>>>
>>>> It will be nice to see a Balance Sheet report that gives me an option to
>>>> choose price source as FIFO. In GnuCash, I can get avg cost or current
>>>> market value, but our tax authority in India needs FIFO. Right now, I get
>>>> that from Investment Performance report (not remembering the exact name)
>>>> and replace the values in the Balance Sheet before I send it to my tax
>>>> consultant.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>> On 9 May 2026, at 12:07?PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>>>> Subject: [GNC] Cashdera analytics companion for GnuCash
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>    <CALSBvaKwEOu04BGOTEgtYq5uA88dmdFxN_cFFp6hDF5nD7J12Q at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I built a Windows desktop beta called Cashdera as an independent
>>>> analytics companion for GnuCash.
>>>>
>>>> It opens an existing .gnucash file, imports it into a local SQLite
>>>> cache, and shows analytics such as:
>>>>
>>>> - monthly cashflow
>>>> - category trends
>>>> - Sankey money flow
>>>> - transaction search
>>>> - budget vs actual
>>>> - net worth timeline
>>>> - year-over-year comparison
>>>> - CSV/PDF report export
>>>>
>>>> The goal is not to replace GnuCash. It is a read-only analytics layer
>>>> on top of an existing GnuCash book. The source GnuCash file is not
>>>> modified.
>>>>
>>>> Privacy/safety notes:
>>>>
>>>> - local desktop app
>>>> - no account
>>>> - no cloud upload
>>>> - no telemetry
>>>> - independent project, not affiliated with GnuCash
>>>> - Windows-only beta
>>>> - unsigned installer, with SHA256 checksums in the GitHub release
>>>> - please test on a backup/copy first
>>>>
>>>> GitHub public beta release:
>>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.1.0
>>>>
>>>> Screenshots:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md#what-cashdera-gives-you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate feedback from experienced GnuCash users, especially:
>>>>
>>>> 1. import issues with real books
>>>> 2. calculation mismatches compared with GnuCash reports
>>>> 3. reports/workflows that are missing
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Ars
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
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From jcriswell58 at gmail.com  Sun May 10 10:05:17 2026
From: jcriswell58 at gmail.com (Jerry Criswell (JC))
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 09:05:17 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Change to The Since Last Run Screen
In-Reply-To: <10to3u4$mid$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <f05ee818-66d0-490e-b0f0-72be7f56a94a@gmail.com>
 <10to3u4$mid$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Message-ID: <1a5ff32f-2ffa-4ca5-ac3e-34ec2bb8229f@gmail.com>

I went to this wiki.? It appears to be for developers.? I searched for 
Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas and pressing enter 
wouldn't leave the search bar, So no help.? Next I opened the regular 
doc and did the search. Enter did the search but didn't find anything.? 
Any other ideas?

JC

On 5/9/26 3:03 PM, Sherlock wrote:
> The value column is used to display and edit the value of variables 
> referenced in the formulas of the scheduled transaction templates.
>
> See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki 
> Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas
>
> Regards,
>
> Sherlock
>
> On 5/9/26 9:06 AM, Jerry Criswell (JC) wrote:
>> When the Show Last Run screen pops up, it shows Transaction, Date and 
>> Status values.? There is a column heading called Value.? How do I get 
>> that to show the upcoming Value?
>
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From maf at chilwell.net  Sun May 10 10:17:57 2026
From: maf at chilwell.net (Maf. King)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 15:17:57 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Change to The Since Last Run Screen
In-Reply-To: <1a5ff32f-2ffa-4ca5-ac3e-34ec2bb8229f@gmail.com>
References: <f05ee818-66d0-490e-b0f0-72be7f56a94a@gmail.com>
 <10to3u4$mid$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <1a5ff32f-2ffa-4ca5-ac3e-34ec2bb8229f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23099496.EfDdHjke4D@janus>

Hi Jerry,

Sherlock posted a link.  OK it got line-broken by the email.  but just copy 
and paste:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas

into your browser.  All 1 line.  You may need to edit out a line feed if one 
gets added in by email software.

The wiki is _quite_ technical, but not for only developers to read.

HTH,
Maf.

On Sunday, 10 May 2026 15:05:17 BST Jerry Criswell (JC) wrote:
> I went to this wiki.  It appears to be for developers.  I searched for
> Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas and pressing enter
> wouldn't leave the search bar, So no help.  Next I opened the regular
> doc and did the search. Enter did the search but didn't find anything. 
> Any other ideas?
> 
> JC
> 
> On 5/9/26 3:03 PM, Sherlock wrote:
> > The value column is used to display and edit the value of variables
> > referenced in the formulas of the scheduled transaction templates.
> > 
> > See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki
> > Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Sherlock
> > 
> > On 5/9/26 9:06 AM, Jerry Criswell (JC) wrote:
> >> When the Show Last Run screen pops up, it shows Transaction, Date and
> >> Status values.  There is a column heading called Value.  How do I get
> >> that to show the upcoming Value?
> > 
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From david.carlson.417 at gmail.com  Sun May 10 10:59:18 2026
From: david.carlson.417 at gmail.com (David Carlson)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 09:59:18 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Change to The Since Last Run Screen
In-Reply-To: <23099496.EfDdHjke4D@janus>
References: <f05ee818-66d0-490e-b0f0-72be7f56a94a@gmail.com>
 <10to3u4$mid$1@ciao.gmane.io> <1a5ff32f-2ffa-4ca5-ac3e-34ec2bb8229f@gmail.com>
 <23099496.EfDdHjke4D@janus>
Message-ID: <CADYgSbkNU9Tba2_r7L3Z+Fgr3koJqeLiW8mUZZy7zYA6VKD2Jg@mail.gmail.com>

So, going back to Tom Route 36's comment, could someone with the correct
credentials edit the manual to reflect a summary of the part of the Wiki
article that applies to the value column?

On Sun, May 10, 2026 at 9:19?AM Maf. King <maf at chilwell.net> wrote:

> Hi Jerry,
>
> Sherlock posted a link.  OK it got line-broken by the email.  but just
> copy
> and paste:
>
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas
>
> into your browser.  All 1 line.  You may need to edit out a line feed if
> one
> gets added in by email software.
>
> The wiki is _quite_ technical, but not for only developers to read.
>
> HTH,
> Maf.
>
> On Sunday, 10 May 2026 15:05:17 BST Jerry Criswell (JC) wrote:
> > I went to this wiki.  It appears to be for developers.  I searched for
> > Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas and pressing enter
> > wouldn't leave the search bar, So no help.  Next I opened the regular
> > doc and did the search. Enter did the search but didn't find anything.
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > JC
> >
> > On 5/9/26 3:03 PM, Sherlock wrote:
> > > The value column is used to display and edit the value of variables
> > > referenced in the formulas of the scheduled transaction templates.
> > >
> > > See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki
> > > Scheduled_Transactions#Variables_and_Formulas
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Sherlock
> > >
> > > On 5/9/26 9:06 AM, Jerry Criswell (JC) wrote:
> > >> When the Show Last Run screen pops up, it shows Transaction, Date and
> > >> Status values.  There is a column heading called Value.  How do I get
> > >> that to show the upcoming Value?
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > gnucash-user mailing list
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From jralls at ceridwen.us  Sun May 10 14:29:51 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 11:29:51 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <CAE+SoP3ACOrJXJFmg7miTCmqjPA0TK5Edr5NWOx1myP-0hbcjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE+SoP3ACOrJXJFmg7miTCmqjPA0TK5Edr5NWOx1myP-0hbcjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <946F2317-44B0-4D19-A133-F9E5AFA8E08D@ceridwen.us>

That?s a user-list question. There?s also not enough information there for anyone to know what happened. Please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile for the first place to look for a cause of the crash. You might also find more details in the Windows Event logs.

Note that Windows 7 isn?t supported. If GnuCash works on it for you, great, but if it doesn?t we?re not going to do anything about it. We continue to support Windows 10 for now, but Microsoft doesn?t.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 9, 2026, at 23:38, Raymond Vogt <rvogt19 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was trying to back up my gnucash file from my Windows 10 laptop to my Windows 7 desktop computer. Both have the latest version installed.
> There was no option to run as administrator.
> Please see the attached screenshot for details. 
> Thanks for your help.
> Raymond
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From bschuck at asgard-systems.com  Sun May 10 14:48:24 2026
From: bschuck at asgard-systems.com (Bruce Schuck)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 11:48:24 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Finance::Quote AEX.pm (aex, dutch,
 euronext methods) to be Removed
Message-ID: <98b7f71b-0bd0-4c16-9d0d-a2f202794cb8@asgard-systems.com>

Hello,

Just an FYI that the Finance::Quote AEX.pm module that provides the aex, 
dutch, and euronext methods will be removed in F::Q v1.70 when it is 
released.

Euronext has recently implemented JavaScript based tools to prevent web 
scraping of data.

Bruce S.

From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Sun May 10 22:25:20 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 07:55:20 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Reconciliation problems NEW OCCURENCE
In-Reply-To: <017c01dce0b0$4b6d1c20$e2475460$@gmail.com>
References: <76FC14F0-1B53-454C-933F-DC1DBD82C033@gmail.com>
 <CADYgSb==DVgAS5HU9Ha3neS_3oQGffivUKrgwUv08W4+PsRH8A@mail.gmail.com>
 <DEB5A5D4-C8AF-43BA-8871-1C216F77B34F@yahoo.com>
 <00c601dcd8c5$6f80c820$4e825860$@gmail.com>
 <C014ABFC-A980-4D06-8F98-3CD31A8D57C5@yahoo.com>
 <017c01dce0b0$4b6d1c20$e2475460$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BF06812C-C6B6-4D8E-9BF6-3DE8116CCB07@yahoo.com>

Once again, please use Reply-All to keep this on the list. 

First, it is not clear to me whether this message is intended as a reply to my message of 6 May or not. Maybe you should try looking at *that* message and see what you've got to say. 

Second, it is also not clear to me how you said on 30 April that you backed up your file, but now you say you didn't. Did you, or didn't you? Or are you considering the act of saving your file "backing up?" (Hint, it's not--but if that's what you meant, then it's not likely that you're opening an older copy accidentally) 

Finally, I'm out of suggestions on how you might fix your problems. I'm sorry you're having them, but it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to fix them for you. Another reason to keep your replies on the list-- so someone else might be able to help. 

David T. 

On May 11, 2026 12:37:49 AM GMT+05:30, Darrah account <darrah66 at gmail.com> wrote:
>If you read my last message- I said two other credit accounts were also affected in the same manner. NO Charge transactions. Only payments. But my Bank account is all present and current. What on earth am I doing different now???!!
>
> 
>
>As for backing up, I don?t always File/save/backup because I always understood that Gnu always backs up when I ?Save? after each time I enter items.
>
>I don?t understand why after so many years of using gnucash, I am having this problem. 
>
> 
>
>From: David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2026 11:20 AM
>To: darrah66 at gmail.com; Billie 66 <darrah66 at gmail.com>; gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>Subject: RE: [GNC] Reconciliation problems NEW OCCURENCE
>
> 
>
>Please keep messages on the list by using Reply-All.
>
>You assert that GnuCash (not "GNU") messed up your credit card account. Can you explain specifically how GnuCash messed up your data? And it appears to have happened again? 
>
>You say you have the SAME PROBLEM, does that mean the opening balance is wrong? That was, after all, your original question. 
>
>You entered all your purchases, and they are now gone? Is it possible that they are in a different account (e.g., IMBALANCE-USD), rather than the credit card account? 
>
>You say you backed up your file. How did you do this? Did you use File->Save As? If so, did you remember to open your original file again, so that the backup remains safe? Did you copy the data file to an external location in your file manager? Which file, precisely, did you back up? 
>
>Is it possible that you're opening different copies of your data file? That's the only way I can imagine data disappearing from a data file. 
>
>It frankly sounds like there are several problems occurring at once, and I have no idea how you should proceed to untangle them. 
>
>David T. 
>
> 
>
>On April 30, 2026 10:48:59 PM GMT+05:30, Billie 66 <darrah66 at gmail.com <mailto:darrah66 at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>Yes- I know how to look for the difference. But I found one transaction that corrected the new difference to $900. Which suggested to me a 9 Error. So that was solved.
>
>NOW HOWEVER: early in April GNU messed up my credit card account by now showing any of the purchases I had entered and reconciled. So I re-entered everything and reconciled it, and made a new backup on April7. Today- SAME Problem. Now that account has no purchases . only payments going back to August of 2025.Ys are indicating everything reconciled -so where are the purchase entries hiding???? No other accounts are affected. 
>
> 
>
>From: David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com <mailto:sunfish62 at yahoo.com> > 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2026 7:33 PM
>To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org> ; David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> >; Billie Chandler <darrah66 at gmail.com <mailto:darrah66 at gmail.com> >
>Subject: Re: [GNC] Reconciliation problems
>
> 
>
>A couple of points:
>
>1) Generally, one can disregard the starting balance. The number to focus on is the ending balance. The documentation goes into some detail on this point. 
>
>2) You have a transaction for $1026.72 throwing things off. That is the difference between $709.96 and $1736.68 and also the difference between the cleared balance and the closing balance in your screen shot. Figure that out, and your problem should clear up. Perhaps you've entered something twice, or the ending balance wasn't entered correctly. 
>
>David T. 
>
> 
>
>On April 8, 2026 7:07:00 PM GMT+05:30, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com <mailto:david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>Here is one thing that you may try:
>
>https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_cannot_reconcile_an_account_with_the_Reconciliation_Assistant_and_I_don.27t_know_what_to_do_now.
>
>
>On Tue, Apr 7, 2026 at 9:48?PM Billie Chandler <darrah66 at gmail.com <mailto:darrah66 at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>I?m having trouble with the starting balance . After balancing perfectly
>the previous month, the next reconciliation picked up a wrong starting
>balance. The previous month balanced at $709.96 but as you can see, it
>picked up $1736.68. There is no way to correct that?
>Please help.
>
>
>Billie Chandler
>702-539-3911
>
>
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From rilesthemtobelieve at gmail.com  Mon May 11 16:10:34 2026
From: rilesthemtobelieve at gmail.com (Stephen Riles Them)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 15:10:34 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Asking for pointers to help resources
In-Reply-To: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c5d46ab7-bec9-425c-a4cd-6fdcf2b8d2a7@gmail.com>

I suggest you follow the tutorial in the Concepts Guide available at 
*https://gnucash.org/docs.phtml. It is worth reading through 
particularly Chapter 2, studying the examples and actually setting up 
the sample files (gcashdata_xxx) to get a really good hands-on feel for 
the structure and mechanics. Once you do that it could make it easier to 
pose specific questions. These same "lessons" are available through the 
tutorial and concepts in the Help while running Gnucash but viewing and 
navigation was easier by downloading the PDF available in the link 
provided.*

*Regards*

On 5/3/2026 9:32 PM, Clint Chaplin wrote:
> I'm fairly new to double-entry bookkeeping, but I think I understand the
> general principle, but when it comes to setting up a chart of accounts, it
> feels like there are so many ways to set up the tree structure, starting
> with what is at the higher levels vs. lower levels, and most trees are
> workable.  I realize this email list is about GnuChash, which will be used
> to instantiate whatever chart I develop, and so is not the correct place to
> be asking my questions.
>
> Does anybody have a pointer to a place where I can ask questions about
> account charts and structures, and get some real world perspectives on what
> worked and what didn't?  And what may be GAAP and what isn't?
>

From rvogt19 at gmail.com  Mon May 11 23:22:10 2026
From: rvogt19 at gmail.com (Raymond Vogt)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 15:22:10 +1200
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
Message-ID: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>

 Hi,
I was advised by devel at gnucash.org that this is a user-list question.
As the program did not open I could not access any trace file and there was
no Windows Event log.
Has anyone else had this issue and found a solution?

I was trying to back up my gnucash file from my Windows 10 laptop to my
Windows 7 desktop computer. Both have the latest version installed.
There was no option to run as administrator.
Please see the attached screenshot for details.
Thanks for your help.
Raymond
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From maf at chilwell.net  Tue May 12 00:44:50 2026
From: maf at chilwell.net (Maf. King)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 05:44:50 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6265403.lOV4Wx5bFT@janus>

Hi Raymond,

Welcome to the list.

I don't use windows so can't really offer any expertise on your crash - but is 
that screenshot from your Win7 box or the Win10 laptop?

I do know that the gnucash website says that V3.11 was the last built for 
Win7, so the 5.x series may well not run anyway, but I don't know for sure.

(please remember to inculde the list in any reply)
regards,
Maf.

On Tuesday, 12 May 2026 04:22:10 BST Raymond Vogt wrote:
>  Hi,
> I was advised by devel at gnucash.org that this is a user-list question.
> As the program did not open I could not access any trace file and there was
> no Windows Event log.
> Has anyone else had this issue and found a solution?
> 
> I was trying to back up my gnucash file from my Windows 10 laptop to my
> Windows 7 desktop computer. Both have the latest version installed.
> There was no option to run as administrator.
> Please see the attached screenshot for details.
> Thanks for your help.
> Raymond





From rvogt19 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 01:26:11 2026
From: rvogt19 at gmail.com (Raymond Vogt)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:26:11 +1200
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <6265403.lOV4Wx5bFT@janus>
References: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
 <6265403.lOV4Wx5bFT@janus>
Message-ID: <CAE+SoP12isR-kTQJZvLJ_Vupju0ySbZOKyM8fVBnDAvCESzASw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Maf.
Thank you for your reply.
The screenshot is from the Windows 7 computer. I am in the process of
changing to Linux on my Windows 10 laptop and hoped to use the Windows 7
computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up. Wish me luck.
Cheers,
Raymond

On Tue, 12 May 2026, 4:45?pm Maf. King, <maf at chilwell.net> wrote:

> Hi Raymond,
>
> Welcome to the list.
>
> I don't use windows so can't really offer any expertise on your crash -
> but is
> that screenshot from your Win7 box or the Win10 laptop?
>
> I do know that the gnucash website says that V3.11 was the last built for
> Win7, so the 5.x series may well not run anyway, but I don't know for sure.
>
> (please remember to inculde the list in any reply)
> regards,
> Maf.
>
> On Tuesday, 12 May 2026 04:22:10 BST Raymond Vogt wrote:
> >  Hi,
> > I was advised by devel at gnucash.org that this is a user-list question.
> > As the program did not open I could not access any trace file and there
> was
> > no Windows Event log.
> > Has anyone else had this issue and found a solution?
> >
> > I was trying to back up my gnucash file from my Windows 10 laptop to my
> > Windows 7 desktop computer. Both have the latest version installed.
> > There was no option to run as administrator.
> > Please see the attached screenshot for details.
> > Thanks for your help.
> > Raymond
>
>
>
>
>

From bbagley at bullish.org  Tue May 12 04:13:06 2026
From: bbagley at bullish.org (bbagley at bullish.org)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 03:13:06 -0500
Subject: [GNC] i do not want to completely unsubscribe
Message-ID: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>

but i would like to cut down dramatically on the # of emails received.? 
 ?How do i do that?? Thank you....b?

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From bbagley at bullish.org  Tue May 12 04:16:04 2026
From: bbagley at bullish.org (bbagley at bullish.org)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 03:16:04 -0500
Subject: [GNC] possible dupe
In-Reply-To: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
References: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
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but i would like to cut down dramatically on the # of emails received.? 
 ?How do i do that?? Thank you....b?

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From edodd at billiau.net  Tue May 12 06:36:19 2026
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 20:36:19 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20260512203619.5a0769bb@zenbook3.billiau.net>

On Tue, 12 May 2026 15:22:10 +1200
Raymond Vogt <rvogt19 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was trying to back up my gnucash file from my Windows 10 laptop to
> my Windows 7 desktop computer. Both have the latest version installed.


Could you tell us how you tried to "back up" the gnucash file?

We would recommend that you copy the *.gnucash file(s) and also the
related files. See https://www.wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup for more
information.

After that I suspect that Maf is right, and Win 7 is too old.
 
Continue with the transfer to Linux, it is different but liked by many
of us.


Liz

From ahk at chinet.com  Tue May 12 06:46:19 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 05:46:19 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
Message-ID: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>

Here's a bookkeeping issue I ran into that affects a 2025 tax return. I 
confess that, even though the numbered schedules have been part of the Form 
1040 layout since the 2019 tax year, because they keep changing from year to 
year, I am still not used to them.

I made a reporting mistake but it doesn't affect taxes owed so I won't amend 
the return unless questioned by IRS.

There were medical expenses taken as itemized deductions in 2024. They were 
reimbursed by insurance in 2025. At first, I took them as contra expenses 
against the insurance premiums, but that seemed wrong, so I took them as 
general contra medical expenses.

After filing the tax return, I found discussion of "recoveries" in 
Publication 525. A recovery is a return of an amount taken as a deduction or 
credit in a prior year, and includes reimbursements of medical expenses. The 
recovery is includeable as income to the extent to which there had been a 
tax benefit in a prior tax year. For instance, if the standard deduction had 
been taken in 2024, then the recovery of the medical expense isn't included 
as income.

Going forward, then, I shall not take these as contra expenses if received 
in a later tax year. I'll have two separate income accounts, includeable and 
excludeable, with tax-line mapping for includeable only. But I'm still 
taking a reimbursement received in the same tax year as the expense as a 
contra expense.

The includeable recovery is reported as Other Income on Line 8z, Schedule 1.

That the reimbursement gets treated differently for income tax purposes 
depending upon the tax year in which it is received complicates bookkeeping, 
but of course there is no choice.

From edg at greenberg.org  Tue May 12 08:02:10 2026
From: edg at greenberg.org (Ed Greenberg)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 08:02:10 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
Message-ID: <CANYJ2e0sBEoTRZjvr7SPG7Ky5Cx=eniDg0VB7WEpWky4n1BUcw@mail.gmail.com>

I would take these late reimbursements as a Contra sub account underneath
medical expenses. Maybe call it reportable late reimbursements or whatever
will mean something to you. I believe there is a checkbox that causes
particular accounts to show up on a tax report.

On Tue, May 12, 2026, 06:47 Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:

> Here's a bookkeeping issue I ran into that affects a 2025 tax return. I
> confess that, even though the numbered schedules have been part of the
> Form
> 1040 layout since the 2019 tax year, because they keep changing from year
> to
> year, I am still not used to them.
>
> I made a reporting mistake but it doesn't affect taxes owed so I won't
> amend
> the return unless questioned by IRS.
>
> There were medical expenses taken as itemized deductions in 2024. They
> were
> reimbursed by insurance in 2025. At first, I took them as contra expenses
> against the insurance premiums, but that seemed wrong, so I took them as
> general contra medical expenses.
>
> After filing the tax return, I found discussion of "recoveries" in
> Publication 525. A recovery is a return of an amount taken as a deduction
> or
> credit in a prior year, and includes reimbursements of medical expenses.
> The
> recovery is includeable as income to the extent to which there had been a
> tax benefit in a prior tax year. For instance, if the standard deduction
> had
> been taken in 2024, then the recovery of the medical expense isn't
> included
> as income.
>
> Going forward, then, I shall not take these as contra expenses if received
> in a later tax year. I'll have two separate income accounts, includeable
> and
> excludeable, with tax-line mapping for includeable only. But I'm still
> taking a reimbursement received in the same tax year as the expense as a
> contra expense.
>
> The includeable recovery is reported as Other Income on Line 8z, Schedule
> 1.
>
> That the reimbursement gets treated differently for income tax purposes
> depending upon the tax year in which it is received complicates
> bookkeeping,
> but of course there is no choice.
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From CSkudder at earthlink.net  Tue May 12 09:22:38 2026
From: CSkudder at earthlink.net (Chris Skudder)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 09:22:38 -0400
Subject: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Message-ID: <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>

Raymond,
I'm not 100% clear on what you mean by:
"use the Windows 7 computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up"

IF by this you mean to simply preserve the GnuCash data file itself (and 
possibly some of the config files too), then you can copy those files 
onto a USB drive and just hold it aside while you work on the 
Win10/Linux machine.

If you want to be able to open and edit the GnuCash file: I don't 
believe that will work, based on the other replies to this thread if the 
Win 7 GnuCash latest version is a major version earlier than the latest 
version on the Win10 machine. I believe GnuCash data files are NOT 
backward compatible to older "major versions" -- that is, GC 3.x can not 
open a GC file written from a GC 5.x.

This next part is out-of-scope on a GnuCash forum, but as long as we're 
"talking" ...
Here's another approach to moving the Win10 machine to Linux, which 
preserves your Win10 environment. I realize not everybody is comfortable 
doing?this but it's almost always just a couple screws:
Buy a new hard drive (or solid state drive, or whatever) for the computer.
Remove the existing storage drive (carrying Win 10), and put the new 
drive in.
This is rarely more than a couple little screws. By now YouTube has 3-5 
minute videos showing exactly how to get to the storage drive in almost 
every make+model of computer out there.

Once the new drive is in, insert your thumb drive with your Linux 
operating system installer on it into the computer, + install the Linux 
OS just like you would have anyway. But this way, you have your whole 
Windows OS on the old drive, sitting safely on the side, in case you 
want to go back to it, and holding ALL your data.

If you're not happy with the new Linux system, just take out the new 
storage drive (carrying Linux), and put the old drive (with Windows) 
back in. Turn the computer on, it opens up your Windows system right 
back where you left off.

If you do like the Linux system, get a USB adapter to plug the old 
(Windows) drive into the copmuter running the new Linux operating 
system. The Windows drive comes up as an external USB drive in the Linux 
system, and you can copy your files over. You may need to "take 
ownership" of the top-level folder in the Windows drive when it's 
plugged into Linux as a USB drive. You'll find how to do that in a 
minute with a search online.

FWIW, I moved to Xubuntu Linux years ago. At first I was very cautious 
and careful to preserve my Windows OS. There is certainly a little bit 
of a learning curve but I "never" had the slightest desire to go back. 
The learning curve gets easier with every later version of Linux, and 
the answers get easier to find as search tools get better over time.

Hope some of that helps.
Chris

Let kindness + truth never leave you;
bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart.
 ?- Proverbs 3:3


*From:* gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 2:14 AM EDT

*To:* gnucash-user at gnucash.org

*Subject:* gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 17


> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:26:11 +1200
> From: Raymond Vogt<rvogt19 at gmail.com>
> To: "Maf. King"<maf at chilwell.net>
> Cc: GnuCash users group<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAE+SoP12isR-kTQJZvLJ_Vupju0ySbZOKyM8fVBnDAvCESzASw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Maf.
> Thank you for your reply.
> The screenshot is from the Windows 7 computer. I am in the process of
> changing to Linux on my Windows 10 laptop and hoped to use the Windows 7
> computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up. Wish me luck.
> Cheers,
> Raymond


From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Tue May 12 10:12:45 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 19:42:45 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <9764EB5C-029F-4439-8B82-ACBF7D014AFA@yahoo.com>

Or just take the (now seriously out of date) Win 7 machine and install Linux there and ensure the data file reads there... 

After all, you're not likely to get anything else to run on that machine (and certainly not Windows 11)...

David T. 

[Chris, if you are using a digest, you should remember to edit the subject line when replying]

On May 12, 2026 6:52:38 PM GMT+05:30, Chris Skudder <CSkudder at earthlink.net> wrote:
>Raymond,
>I'm not 100% clear on what you mean by:
>"use the Windows 7 computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up"
>
>IF by this you mean to simply preserve the GnuCash data file itself (and possibly some of the config files too), then you can copy those files onto a USB drive and just hold it aside while you work on the Win10/Linux machine.
>
>If you want to be able to open and edit the GnuCash file: I don't believe that will work, based on the other replies to this thread if the Win 7 GnuCash latest version is a major version earlier than the latest version on the Win10 machine. I believe GnuCash data files are NOT backward compatible to older "major versions" -- that is, GC 3.x can not open a GC file written from a GC 5.x.
>
>This next part is out-of-scope on a GnuCash forum, but as long as we're "talking" ...
>Here's another approach to moving the Win10 machine to Linux, which preserves your Win10 environment. I realize not everybody is comfortable doing?this but it's almost always just a couple screws:
>Buy a new hard drive (or solid state drive, or whatever) for the computer.
>Remove the existing storage drive (carrying Win 10), and put the new drive in.
>This is rarely more than a couple little screws. By now YouTube has 3-5 minute videos showing exactly how to get to the storage drive in almost every make+model of computer out there.
>
>Once the new drive is in, insert your thumb drive with your Linux operating system installer on it into the computer, + install the Linux OS just like you would have anyway. But this way, you have your whole Windows OS on the old drive, sitting safely on the side, in case you want to go back to it, and holding ALL your data.
>
>If you're not happy with the new Linux system, just take out the new storage drive (carrying Linux), and put the old drive (with Windows) back in. Turn the computer on, it opens up your Windows system right back where you left off.
>
>If you do like the Linux system, get a USB adapter to plug the old (Windows) drive into the copmuter running the new Linux operating system. The Windows drive comes up as an external USB drive in the Linux system, and you can copy your files over. You may need to "take ownership" of the top-level folder in the Windows drive when it's plugged into Linux as a USB drive. You'll find how to do that in a minute with a search online.
>
>FWIW, I moved to Xubuntu Linux years ago. At first I was very cautious and careful to preserve my Windows OS. There is certainly a little bit of a learning curve but I "never" had the slightest desire to go back. The learning curve gets easier with every later version of Linux, and the answers get easier to find as search tools get better over time.
>
>Hope some of that helps.
>Chris
>
>Let kindness + truth never leave you;
>bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart.
>?- Proverbs 3:3
>
>
>*From:* gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org
>
>*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 2:14 AM EDT
>
>*To:* gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>
>*Subject:* gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 17
>
>
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:26:11 +1200
>> From: Raymond Vogt<rvogt19 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Maf. King"<maf at chilwell.net>
>> Cc: GnuCash users group<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<CAE+SoP12isR-kTQJZvLJ_Vupju0ySbZOKyM8fVBnDAvCESzASw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Hi Maf.
>> Thank you for your reply.
>> The screenshot is from the Windows 7 computer. I am in the process of
>> changing to Linux on my Windows 10 laptop and hoped to use the Windows 7
>> computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up. Wish me luck.
>> Cheers,
>> Raymond
>
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From stan+gc at fastmail.fm  Tue May 12 12:07:14 2026
From: stan+gc at fastmail.fm (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 09:07:14 -0700
Subject: [GNC] i do not want to completely unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
References: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
Message-ID: <74e29afc-2762-40bd-b128-e070d63b5fd0@fastmail.fm>

On 2026-05-12 01:13, bbagley at bullish.org wrote:
> but i would like to cut down dramatically on the # of emails received.?
> ?How do i do that?? Thank you....b?

I canm understand your rustratio because sometimes it seems there are a
lot of emails. (On the other hand, sometimes several days can pass with
nothing in the mailing list.)

But on what basis would you "cut down ... the [number] of emails
received"? Delete all but every tenth email? Delete all emails from
certain people? Delete all emails with certain keywords in their subject
lines?

Your email client should give you the ability to filter incoming mail,
and delete or move to Trash emails meeting criteria that you specify.
But the GnuCash mailing list does not offer filtering.

The GnuCash mailing list does let you switch to digest mode. In theory
that means you get one email a day, with all that day's messages in one
bundle. In practice when I was in digest mode, more days than not I
would receive several bundle messages, which made it very hard to follow
conversations, so I turned off digest mode and set up filters.

I'm not recommending digest mode, but that's the only way I know of to
get the GnuCash mailing list software to reduce the number (though not
the volume) of emails for you. You can switch to digest mode here:
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
But really I think your better bet is to create filters in your mail client.


Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com/

From stepbystepfarm at comcast.net  Tue May 12 12:08:23 2026
From: stepbystepfarm at comcast.net (Michael or Penny Novack)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 12:08:23 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68feeb44-c7c5-410e-bf7d-407a0f6b042b@comcast.net>

On 5/11/2026 11:22 PM, Raymond Vogt wrote:
>   Hi,
> I was advised by devel at gnucash.org that this is a user-list question.
> As the program did not open I could not access any trace file and there was
> no Windows Event log.
> Has anyone else had this issue and found a solution?
>
> I was trying to back up my gnucash file from my Windows 10 laptop to my
> Windows 7 desktop computer. Both have the latest version installed.
> There was no option to run as administrator.

THAT is not a gnucash question. Are you saying that IF logged on as an 
ordinary user you had no way to switch to administrator without logging 
off and logging back in using your administrator name/password? Too long 
since I last used Windows 7 for me to remember if possible or not.. 
Logging out and logging in as administrator should work. Mind as a 
retired pro, I would normally expect to use that method, log out and log 
in. More modern Windows versions? support temporarily switching to 
administrator to mimic the linux su command.

I don't think (can't remember) whether Win 7 was provided for 64 it.

Michael D Novack



From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Tue May 12 12:41:43 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2088371201.474059.1778604103869@connect.xfinity.com>

I cannot recommend Windows 7, but if someone were to demand using Windows 7, then I'd suggest running GnuCash 3.11.

Always keep good incremental backups of your data.


> On 05/11/2026 8:22 PM PDT Raymond Vogt <rvogt19 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi,
> I was advised by devel at gnucash.org that this is a user-list question.
> As the program did not open I could not access any trace file and there was
> no Windows Event log.
> Has anyone else had this issue and found a solution?
> 
> I was trying to back up my gnucash file from my Windows 10 laptop to my
> Windows 7 desktop computer. Both have the latest version installed.
> There was no option to run as administrator.
> Please see the attached screenshot for details.
> Thanks for your help.
> Raymond

From ahk at chinet.com  Tue May 12 13:02:34 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 12:02:34 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <CANYJ2e0sBEoTRZjvr7SPG7Ky5Cx=eniDg0VB7WEpWky4n1BUcw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <CANYJ2e0sBEoTRZjvr7SPG7Ky5Cx=eniDg0VB7WEpWky4n1BUcw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1s3q62q0-7n5q-230r-r741-o724r364rp78@puvarg.pbz>

7:02am -0000 05/12/26 Ed Greenberg <edg at greenberg.org> wrote:

>I would take these late reimbursements as a Contra sub account underneath
>medical expenses. Maybe call it reportable late reimbursements or whatever
>will mean something to you. I believe there is a checkbox that causes
>particular accounts to show up on a tax report.

Right. That was my initial reasoning, but I cannot link a contra expense 
account to an income category on the tax report. It doesn't change taxes 
owed, but IRS wanted the recovery reported as income and not used to reduce 
the medical expense on Schedule A.

So it matches reporting for the tax return, I book reimbursements in two 
places. If received in the same tax year the expense was paid, it's a contra 
expense. If received in a later tax year,

Other Income > Recoveries > Reimbursements medical and drugs > Includible

"Includible" is tax mapped to Other Income. If an excludable recovery is 
received in a later tax year for an expense that wasn't deducted, its 
subaccount won't be tax mapped.

>On Tue, May 12, 2026, 06:47 Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a bookkeeping issue I ran into that affects a 2025 tax return. I
>> confess that, even though the numbered schedules have been part of the
>> Form
>> 1040 layout since the 2019 tax year, because they keep changing from year
>> to
>> year, I am still not used to them.
>>
>> I made a reporting mistake but it doesn't affect taxes owed so I won't
>> amend
>> the return unless questioned by IRS.
>>
>> There were medical expenses taken as itemized deductions in 2024. They
>> were
>> reimbursed by insurance in 2025. At first, I took them as contra expenses
>> against the insurance premiums, but that seemed wrong, so I took them as
>> general contra medical expenses.
>>
>> After filing the tax return, I found discussion of "recoveries" in
>> Publication 525. A recovery is a return of an amount taken as a deduction
>> or
>> credit in a prior year, and includes reimbursements of medical expenses.
>> The
>> recovery is includeable as income to the extent to which there had been a
>> tax benefit in a prior tax year. For instance, if the standard deduction
>> had
>> been taken in 2024, then the recovery of the medical expense isn't
>> included
>> as income.
>>
>> Going forward, then, I shall not take these as contra expenses if received
>> in a later tax year. I'll have two separate income accounts, includeable
>> and
>> excludeable, with tax-line mapping for includeable only. But I'm still
>> taking a reimbursement received in the same tax year as the expense as a
>> contra expense.
>>
>> The includeable recovery is reported as Other Income on Line 8z, Schedule
>> 1.
>>
>> That the reimbursement gets treated differently for income tax purposes
>> depending upon the tax year in which it is received complicates
>> bookkeeping,
>> but of course there is no choice.
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From CSkudder at earthlink.net  Tue May 12 13:20:55 2026
From: CSkudder at earthlink.net (Chris Skudder)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 13:20:55 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1778601601.15718.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
References: <mailman.5.1778601601.15718.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Message-ID: <114f1ef5-753b-428c-94d0-b601dd8c4cba@earthlink.net>

David thanks for the reminder on correcting the subject line.

And yes, it would make a lot of sense to use the Win7 machine for the 
Linux system Quite possibly makes more sense than changing the Win10 
machine, unless you have some other reason you want to keep Win7 alive.

A "lighter" Linux "flavor" like Xubuntu will run beautifully on Win7-era 
hardware, and you'll still have a more-current Windows machine running 
along side it. If you're happy with Linux on the previously-Win7 machine 
you can then change over the Win 10 machine.

good luck with it all.
Chris


*From:* gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 12:00 PM EDT

*To:* gnucash-user at gnucash.org

*Subject:* gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 18


> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 19:42:45 +0530
> From: "David T."<sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> To:gnucash-user at gnucash.org, Chris Skudder<CSkudder at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
> Message-ID:<9764EB5C-029F-4439-8B82-ACBF7D014AFA at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Or just take the (now seriously out of date) Win 7 machine and install Linux there and ensure the data file reads there...
>
> After all, you're not likely to get anything else to run on that machine (and certainly not Windows 11)...
>
> David T.
>
> [Chris, if you are using a digest, you should remember to edit the subject line when replying]
>
> On May 12, 2026 6:52:38 PM GMT+05:30, Chris Skudder<CSkudder at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Raymond,
>> I'm not 100% clear on what you mean by:
>> "use the Windows 7 computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up"
>>
>> IF by this you mean to simply preserve the GnuCash data file itself (and possibly some of the config files too), then you can copy those files onto a USB drive and just hold it aside while you work on the Win10/Linux machine.


From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Tue May 12 13:24:54 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 10:24:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
Message-ID: <1708564111.475883.1778606694957@connect.xfinity.com>

The simplified summary here is that you don't get both the future recovery and the past medical expense tax benefit. In other words, you're reimbursed for the amount you claimed as a tax deduction, so that effectively erases your prior medical expense/tax deduction. The in the weeds discussion is about the computations given the recovery is in a future year, and then the larger issue is how to keep TAX REPORTING records for this sort of situation.

Then there is yet another issue about significance.

WHAT I PERSONALLY WOULD DO:

If the medical tax deduction is "small," and thus has little reduction in taxes owed, then I'd probably just not deduct the medical expenses.

If the deduction is "large" and I thought there is a high probability of reimbursement, then I have decisions to make. For example, if I expected to be reimbursed in January for a December payment, then I'd probably just not take the tax deduction to avoid the record keeping. Sure I'd get some tax benefit for the first year, but then I'd have to give it back in the second year, but the tax rates might be different. Again, there is a decision that needs to be made int this situation.

If I thought the probability of reimbursement is "small" and the medical expenses are "large," then this is the easy case of take the tax deduction and track the unexpected reimbursement as taxable income.

The "income" here is only for tax purposes, as the payment is reimbursement for expenses from past year(s).

> On 05/12/2026 3:46 AM PDT Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Here's a bookkeeping issue I ran into that affects a 2025 tax return. I 
> confess that, even though the numbered schedules have been part of the Form 
> 1040 layout since the 2019 tax year, because they keep changing from year to 
> year, I am still not used to them.
> 
> I made a reporting mistake but it doesn't affect taxes owed so I won't amend 
> the return unless questioned by IRS.
> 
> There were medical expenses taken as itemized deductions in 2024. They were 
> reimbursed by insurance in 2025. At first, I took them as contra expenses 
> against the insurance premiums, but that seemed wrong, so I took them as 
> general contra medical expenses.
> 
> After filing the tax return, I found discussion of "recoveries" in 
> Publication 525. A recovery is a return of an amount taken as a deduction or 
> credit in a prior year, and includes reimbursements of medical expenses. The 
> recovery is includeable as income to the extent to which there had been a 
> tax benefit in a prior tax year. For instance, if the standard deduction had 
> been taken in 2024, then the recovery of the medical expense isn't included 
> as income.
> 
> Going forward, then, I shall not take these as contra expenses if received 
> in a later tax year. I'll have two separate income accounts, includeable and 
> excludeable, with tax-line mapping for includeable only. But I'm still 
> taking a reimbursement received in the same tax year as the expense as a 
> contra expense.
> 
> The includeable recovery is reported as Other Income on Line 8z, Schedule 1.
> 
> That the reimbursement gets treated differently for income tax purposes 
> depending upon the tax year in which it is received complicates bookkeeping, 
> but of course there is no choice.

From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Tue May 12 13:47:24 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 23:17:24 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <114f1ef5-753b-428c-94d0-b601dd8c4cba@earthlink.net>
References: <mailman.5.1778601601.15718.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <114f1ef5-753b-428c-94d0-b601dd8c4cba@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <993E3394-024A-4F89-8B98-E651B36BFACF@yahoo.com>

It's off topic, but: For the record, neither Windows 7 nor Windows 10 are supported by Microsoft any more. They are not safe to run if connected to any networks, as they receive no security updates. 

On May 12, 2026 10:50:55 PM GMT+05:30, Chris Skudder <CSkudder at earthlink.net> wrote:
>David thanks for the reminder on correcting the subject line.
>
>And yes, it would make a lot of sense to use the Win7 machine for the Linux system Quite possibly makes more sense than changing the Win10 machine, unless you have some other reason you want to keep Win7 alive.
>
>A "lighter" Linux "flavor" like Xubuntu will run beautifully on Win7-era hardware, and you'll still have a more-current Windows machine running along side it. If you're happy with Linux on the previously-Win7 machine you can then change over the Win 10 machine.
>
>good luck with it all.
>Chris
>
>
>*From:* gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org
>
>*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 12:00 PM EDT
>
>*To:* gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>
>*Subject:* gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 18
>
>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 19:42:45 +0530
>> From: "David T."<sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
>> To:gnucash-user at gnucash.org, Chris Skudder<CSkudder at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
>> Message-ID:<9764EB5C-029F-4439-8B82-ACBF7D014AFA at yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Or just take the (now seriously out of date) Win 7 machine and install Linux there and ensure the data file reads there...
>> 
>> After all, you're not likely to get anything else to run on that machine (and certainly not Windows 11)...
>> 
>> David T.
>> 
>> [Chris, if you are using a digest, you should remember to edit the subject line when replying]
>> 
>> On May 12, 2026 6:52:38 PM GMT+05:30, Chris Skudder<CSkudder at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Raymond,
>>> I'm not 100% clear on what you mean by:
>>> "use the Windows 7 computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up"
>>> 
>>> IF by this you mean to simply preserve the GnuCash data file itself (and possibly some of the config files too), then you can copy those files onto a USB drive and just hold it aside while you work on the Win10/Linux machine.
>
>_______________________________________________
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From ahk at chinet.com  Tue May 12 14:09:54 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 13:09:54 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <1708564111.475883.1778606694957@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <1708564111.475883.1778606694957@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <5orn9qp5-1885-s42s-s1on-659or26oor68@puvarg.pbz>

12:24pm -0000 05/12/26 Patrick James via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash...:

>The simplified summary here is that you don't get both the future recovery 
>and the past medical expense tax benefit. In other words, you're reimbursed 
>for the amount you claimed as a tax deduction, so that effectively erases 
>your prior medical expense/tax deduction. The in the weeds discussion is 
>about the computations given the recovery is in a future year, and then the 
>larger issue is how to keep TAX REPORTING records for this sort of 
>situation.

>Then there is yet another issue about significance. . . . 

Your points are well taken. However, Congress had just changed the law, 
making the purchase of these specific medical supplies eligible for Medicare 
reimbursement. I was not anticipating reimbursement, hence I took the 
deduction. The store asked me to allow them to submit the bills as a test 
case in how they would seek reimbursement as it might mean more business for 
them in future, so I provided a prescription and authorized them to fuss 
with the bills. Yhe reimbursement came in three checks, from the store as 
the received one insurance payment, from Medicare, then from the supplement 
insurance carrier.

>The "income" here is only for tax purposes, as the payment is reimbursement 
>for expenses from past year(s).

Exactly right, which is why when I prepared the tax return, I simply took 
the reimbursements as a contra expense -- perfectly logical from a 
bookkeeping perspective -- rather than as other income as required by the 
tax code.

Since I had to fix the other income subaccounts in GnuCash with respect to 
this issue, I spotted entries for a payment for refundable state income tax 
credits recorded as "other income". This was during COVID. Since IRS 
eventually told taxpayers to exclude these refundable credits from 
reportable income for, er, political reasons, these should have been 
recorded as a contra expense for state and local taxes with no tax line 
mapping and not as other income.

From stepbystepfarm at comcast.net  Tue May 12 14:31:48 2026
From: stepbystepfarm at comcast.net (Michael or Penny Novack)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 14:31:48 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <993E3394-024A-4F89-8B98-E651B36BFACF@yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.5.1778601601.15718.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <114f1ef5-753b-428c-94d0-b601dd8c4cba@earthlink.net>
 <993E3394-024A-4F89-8B98-E651B36BFACF@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <86b66b56-6503-4672-95a2-7215fe9cde68@comcast.net>

On 5/12/2026 1:47 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> It's off topic, but: For the record, neither Windows 7 nor Windows 10 are supported by Microsoft any more. They are not safe to run if connected to any networks, as they receive no security updates.
>
They receive no security updates but the risk goes down with time. They 
were exposed longer to attacks AND as the number of remaining users 
becomes smaller over time the likelihood of an attacker spending time to 
try to discover a new exploit goes down.

The real problem with an old, no longer supported OS is that it will not 
receive updates of drivers, etc. and so new hardware not going to be 
supported. But are you really likely to be adding new hardware to an old 
machine running under an old OS.

Michael



From stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 15:39:15 2026
From: stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com (Steve Butler)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 12:39:15 -0700
Subject: [GNC] i do not want to completely unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <74e29afc-2762-40bd-b128-e070d63b5fd0@fastmail.fm>
References: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
 <74e29afc-2762-40bd-b128-e070d63b5fd0@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <CALTSo2jJM_Wsp+-geww2d4aoYPrgU0N6_OrJpBt5SDyi9gKJbg@mail.gmail.com>

Why not switch to daily digest?

On Tue, May 12, 2026, 09:08 Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <stan+gc at fastmail.fm>
wrote:

> On 2026-05-12 01:13, bbagley at bullish.org wrote:
> > but i would like to cut down dramatically on the # of emails received.
> >  How do i do that?  Thank you....b?
>
> I canm understand your rustratio because sometimes it seems there are a
> lot of emails. (On the other hand, sometimes several days can pass with
> nothing in the mailing list.)
>
> But on what basis would you "cut down ... the [number] of emails
> received"? Delete all but every tenth email? Delete all emails from
> certain people? Delete all emails with certain keywords in their subject
> lines?
>
> Your email client should give you the ability to filter incoming mail,
> and delete or move to Trash emails meeting criteria that you specify.
> But the GnuCash mailing list does not offer filtering.
>
> The GnuCash mailing list does let you switch to digest mode. In theory
> that means you get one email a day, with all that day's messages in one
> bundle. In practice when I was in digest mode, more days than not I
> would receive several bundle messages, which made it very hard to follow
> conversations, so I turned off digest mode and set up filters.
>
> I'm not recommending digest mode, but that's the only way I know of to
> get the GnuCash mailing list software to reduce the number (though not
> the volume) of emails for you. You can switch to digest mode here:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> But really I think your better bet is to create filters in your mail
> client.
>
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com/
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From pyz01 at outlook.com  Tue May 12 16:26:59 2026
From: pyz01 at outlook.com (Ken Pyzik)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 20:26:59 +0000
Subject: [GNC] Current Version @ GnuCash.Org
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR05MB7102CD5580618234E5301089AE4BA@MN2PR05MB7102.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <27d728ffaed5caf5f483782748d0417c@smtp.hushmail.com>
 <MN2PR05MB7102CD5580618234E5301089AE4BA@MN2PR05MB7102.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <PH0PR05MB85913F201DFAC26EA9BB152AAE392@PH0PR05MB8591.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

OK - so I remember awhile back that there was some discussion about hosting of gnucash.org maybe having some issues.  Today, I went to Gnucash.org and saw that it was working fine.  BUT.... it was saying on the page that the latest version is 5.14.  However, I know for fact the latest version is 5.15.  I have 5.15-1 installed on my machine (I am Linux Mint) and it is working fine.  Additionally, when I do flatpak update it says my version is the latest version.

Therefore, my question is ? is the website out of date?  Is the 5.15 version NOT official?  According to the schedule, come 6/30 will version 5.16 still be released?  Just asking...... thanks!

Ken

From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Tue May 12 17:07:05 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Current Version @ GnuCash.Org
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR05MB85913F201DFAC26EA9BB152AAE392@PH0PR05MB8591.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <27d728ffaed5caf5f483782748d0417c@smtp.hushmail.com>
 <MN2PR05MB7102CD5580618234E5301089AE4BA@MN2PR05MB7102.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <PH0PR05MB85913F201DFAC26EA9BB152AAE392@PH0PR05MB8591.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <949300134.483732.1778620025841@connect.xfinity.com>

Other than the obvious typo, 5.15 was released on the planned date of March 29.

> According to the schedule, come 6/30 will version 5.16 still be released?

If history is any indicator of the future, I'd expect that 5.16 will be released as scheduled on June 28, so it will be available on June 30.

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule


> On 05/12/2026 1:26 PM PDT Ken Pyzik <pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> OK - so I remember awhile back that there was some discussion about hosting of gnucash.org maybe having some issues.  Today, I went to Gnucash.org and saw that it was working fine.  BUT.... it was saying on the page that the latest version is 5.14.  However, I know for fact the latest version is 5.15.  I have 5.15-1 installed on my machine (I am Linux Mint) and it is working fine.  Additionally, when I do flatpak update it says my version is the latest version.
> 
> Therefore, my question is ? is the website out of date?  Is the 5.15 version NOT official?  According to the schedule, come 6/30 will version 5.16 still be released?  Just asking...... thanks!
> 
> Ken

From rvogt19 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:30:14 2026
From: rvogt19 at gmail.com (Raymond Vogt)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 09:30:14 +1200
Subject: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
Thank you for all the replies and help. It gives me confidence to ditch MS
Money, the only thing preventing me to switch to Linux. I have decided to
put my Gnucash file on a USB stick and will try to partition my laptop
harddrive so I can duel boot for a while until I am confident with Linux.
I hope I won't have too many more questions about Gnucash. I am grateful be
part of this supportive community.
Cheers,
Raymond

On Wed, 13 May 2026, 1:24?am Chris Skudder, <CSkudder at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Raymond,
> I'm not 100% clear on what you mean by:
> "use the Windows 7 computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up"
>
> IF by this you mean to simply preserve the GnuCash data file itself (and
> possibly some of the config files too), then you can copy those files
> onto a USB drive and just hold it aside while you work on the
> Win10/Linux machine.
>
> If you want to be able to open and edit the GnuCash file: I don't
> believe that will work, based on the other replies to this thread if the
> Win 7 GnuCash latest version is a major version earlier than the latest
> version on the Win10 machine. I believe GnuCash data files are NOT
> backward compatible to older "major versions" -- that is, GC 3.x can not
> open a GC file written from a GC 5.x.
>
> This next part is out-of-scope on a GnuCash forum, but as long as we're
> "talking" ...
> Here's another approach to moving the Win10 machine to Linux, which
> preserves your Win10 environment. I realize not everybody is comfortable
> doing this but it's almost always just a couple screws:
> Buy a new hard drive (or solid state drive, or whatever) for the computer.
> Remove the existing storage drive (carrying Win 10), and put the new
> drive in.
> This is rarely more than a couple little screws. By now YouTube has 3-5
> minute videos showing exactly how to get to the storage drive in almost
> every make+model of computer out there.
>
> Once the new drive is in, insert your thumb drive with your Linux
> operating system installer on it into the computer, + install the Linux
> OS just like you would have anyway. But this way, you have your whole
> Windows OS on the old drive, sitting safely on the side, in case you
> want to go back to it, and holding ALL your data.
>
> If you're not happy with the new Linux system, just take out the new
> storage drive (carrying Linux), and put the old drive (with Windows)
> back in. Turn the computer on, it opens up your Windows system right
> back where you left off.
>
> If you do like the Linux system, get a USB adapter to plug the old
> (Windows) drive into the copmuter running the new Linux operating
> system. The Windows drive comes up as an external USB drive in the Linux
> system, and you can copy your files over. You may need to "take
> ownership" of the top-level folder in the Windows drive when it's
> plugged into Linux as a USB drive. You'll find how to do that in a
> minute with a search online.
>
> FWIW, I moved to Xubuntu Linux years ago. At first I was very cautious
> and careful to preserve my Windows OS. There is certainly a little bit
> of a learning curve but I "never" had the slightest desire to go back.
> The learning curve gets easier with every later version of Linux, and
> the answers get easier to find as search tools get better over time.
>
> Hope some of that helps.
> Chris
>
> Let kindness + truth never leave you;
> bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart.
>   - Proverbs 3:3
>
>
> *From:* gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 2:14 AM EDT
>
> *To:* gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>
> *Subject:* gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 17
>
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:26:11 +1200
> > From: Raymond Vogt<rvogt19 at gmail.com>
> > To: "Maf. King"<maf at chilwell.net>
> > Cc: GnuCash users group<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
> > Message-ID:
> >       <
> CAE+SoP12isR-kTQJZvLJ_Vupju0ySbZOKyM8fVBnDAvCESzASw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Hi Maf.
> > Thank you for your reply.
> > The screenshot is from the Windows 7 computer. I am in the process of
> > changing to Linux on my Windows 10 laptop and hoped to use the Windows 7
> > computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up. Wish me luck.
> > Cheers,
> > Raymond
>
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From tom.route36 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:35:29 2026
From: tom.route36 at gmail.com (Tom Route36)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 15:35:29 -0600
Subject: [GNC] i do not want to completely unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
References: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
Message-ID: <da1e41c6-637a-4903-810b-547cdd2a10f8@gmail.com>

Hi bbagley,

The volume of GnuCash emails can vary widely from day to day.? My 
solution is to have a message filter that moves all GnuCash emails off 
into a separate folder rather than my Inbox.? Basically any message with 
"@gnucash.org" in the sender email address gets automatically moved 
there.? Then as time permits I'll check that folder for subjects of 
interest or concern to me.

Tom


On 5/12/2026 2:13 AM, bbagley at bullish.org wrote:
> but i would like to cut down dramatically on the # of emails received. 
> ?How do i do that?? Thank you....b?
>

From mark at lorimarksolutions.com  Tue May 12 17:37:25 2026
From: mark at lorimarksolutions.com (Mark at Lorimark)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 16:37:25 -0500
Subject: [GNC] testing
In-Reply-To: <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
 <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>

are my emails getting through?  Am I able to post in here?  My replies 
are not showing up.

~mark petryk
~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com
~q:i don't know where it's going to go,
     ...and i don't know what to wear when it gets there.


From davidcousens49 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:43:39 2026
From: davidcousens49 at gmail.com (David Cousens)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 07:43:39 +1000
Subject: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
 <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3be8c35ebdff6a3c9568f31dd454dda7fe00ae30.camel@gmail.com>

Another posible route if the Win 7 machine is likely to die  where you
need access to your Win 7 programs would be to run Win 7 in a virtual
machine on a Linux system
(https://askubuntu.com/questions/1136243/windows-7-running-on-a-virtual-machine-on-ubuntu-18-10
)

On Wed, 2026-05-13 at 09:30 +1200, Raymond Vogt wrote:
> Hi All,
> Thank you for all the replies and help. It gives me confidence to
> ditch MS
> Money, the only thing preventing me to switch to Linux. I have
> decided to
> put my Gnucash file on a USB stick and will try to partition my
> laptop
> harddrive so I can duel boot for a while until I am confident with
> Linux.
> I hope I won't have too many more questions about Gnucash. I am
> grateful be
> part of this supportive community.
> Cheers,
> Raymond
> 
> On Wed, 13 May 2026, 1:24?am Chris Skudder, <CSkudder at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > Raymond,
> > I'm not 100% clear on what you mean by:
> > "use the Windows 7 computer as a backup, in case I muck the change
> > over up"
> > 
> > IF by this you mean to simply preserve the GnuCash data file itself
> > (and
> > possibly some of the config files too), then you can copy those
> > files
> > onto a USB drive and just hold it aside while you work on the
> > Win10/Linux machine.
> > 
> > If you want to be able to open and edit the GnuCash file: I don't
> > believe that will work, based on the other replies to this thread
> > if the
> > Win 7 GnuCash latest version is a major version earlier than the
> > latest
> > version on the Win10 machine. I believe GnuCash data files are NOT
> > backward compatible to older "major versions" -- that is, GC 3.x
> > can not
> > open a GC file written from a GC 5.x.
> > 
> > This next part is out-of-scope on a GnuCash forum, but as long as
> > we're
> > "talking" ...
> > Here's another approach to moving the Win10 machine to Linux, which
> > preserves your Win10 environment. I realize not everybody is
> > comfortable
> > doing this but it's almost always just a couple screws:
> > Buy a new hard drive (or solid state drive, or whatever) for the
> > computer.
> > Remove the existing storage drive (carrying Win 10), and put the
> > new
> > drive in.
> > This is rarely more than a couple little screws. By now YouTube has
> > 3-5
> > minute videos showing exactly how to get to the storage drive in
> > almost
> > every make+model of computer out there.
> > 
> > Once the new drive is in, insert your thumb drive with your Linux
> > operating system installer on it into the computer, + install the
> > Linux
> > OS just like you would have anyway. But this way, you have your
> > whole
> > Windows OS on the old drive, sitting safely on the side, in case
> > you
> > want to go back to it, and holding ALL your data.
> > 
> > If you're not happy with the new Linux system, just take out the
> > new
> > storage drive (carrying Linux), and put the old drive (with
> > Windows)
> > back in. Turn the computer on, it opens up your Windows system
> > right
> > back where you left off.
> > 
> > If you do like the Linux system, get a USB adapter to plug the old
> > (Windows) drive into the copmuter running the new Linux operating
> > system. The Windows drive comes up as an external USB drive in the
> > Linux
> > system, and you can copy your files over. You may need to "take
> > ownership" of the top-level folder in the Windows drive when it's
> > plugged into Linux as a USB drive. You'll find how to do that in a
> > minute with a search online.
> > 
> > FWIW, I moved to Xubuntu Linux years ago. At first I was very
> > cautious
> > and careful to preserve my Windows OS. There is certainly a little
> > bit
> > of a learning curve but I "never" had the slightest desire to go
> > back.
> > The learning curve gets easier with every later version of Linux,
> > and
> > the answers get easier to find as search tools get better over
> > time.
> > 
> > Hope some of that helps.
> > Chris
> > 
> > Let kindness + truth never leave you;
> > bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart.
> > ? - Proverbs 3:3
> > 
> > 
> > *From:* gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org
> > 
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 2:14 AM EDT
> > 
> > *To:* gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > 
> > *Subject:* gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 17
> > 
> > 
> > > ------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:26:11 +1200
> > > From: Raymond Vogt<rvogt19 at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Maf. King"<maf at chilwell.net>
> > > Cc: GnuCash users group<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
> > > Message-ID:
> > > ????? <
> > CAE+SoP12isR-kTQJZvLJ_Vupju0ySbZOKyM8fVBnDAvCESzASw at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > > 
> > > Hi Maf.
> > > Thank you for your reply.
> > > The screenshot is from the Windows 7 computer. I am in the
> > > process of
> > > changing to Linux on my Windows 10 laptop and hoped to use the
> > > Windows 7
> > > computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up. Wish me
> > > luck.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Raymond
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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> > -----
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> > 
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-- 
David Cousens

From davidcousens49 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 17:48:59 2026
From: davidcousens49 at gmail.com (David Cousens)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 07:48:59 +1000
Subject: [GNC] testing
In-Reply-To: <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
 <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>
Message-ID: <a7aa7f418f3b270cad1c2514d5a9018a929eb4b3.camel@gmail.com>

Mark
Your replies will not show up in the mailing list emails to you.
Mailling lists generally filter messages from you out of the feed to
you. You may be able to alter that in the mailing list preferences.

On Tue, 2026-05-12 at 16:37 -0500, Mark at Lorimark wrote:
> are my emails getting through?? Am I able to post in here?? My
> replies 
> are not showing up.
> 
> ~mark petryk
> ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com
> ~q:i don't know where it's going to go,
> ???? ...and i don't know what to wear when it gets there.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

-- 
David Cousens

From derek at ihtfp.com  Tue May 12 18:21:45 2026
From: derek at ihtfp.com (Derek Atkins)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 18:21:45 -0400
Subject: [GNC] testing
In-Reply-To: <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
 <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>
Message-ID: <cc571a1800274e2fdd8b6fdfc9ddd87d.squirrel@mail.ihtfp.org>



On Tue, May 12, 2026 5:37 pm, Mark at Lorimark wrote:
> are my emails getting through?

Yes

>  Am I able to post in here?

Yes

>  My replies are not showing up.

Perhaps your account is set to not receive your own replies?

-derek

>
> ~mark petryk
> ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com
> ~q:i don't know where it's going to go,
>      ...and i don't know what to wear when it gets there.
>
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>


-- 
       Derek Atkins                 617-623-3745
       derek at ihtfp.com             www.ihtfp.com
       Computer and Internet Security Consultant


-- 
       Derek Atkins                 617-623-3745
       derek at ihtfp.com             www.ihtfp.com
       Computer and Internet Security Consultant


From stan+gc at fastmail.fm  Tue May 12 18:29:45 2026
From: stan+gc at fastmail.fm (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 15:29:45 -0700
Subject: [GNC] testing
In-Reply-To: <a7aa7f418f3b270cad1c2514d5a9018a929eb4b3.camel@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
 <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>
 <a7aa7f418f3b270cad1c2514d5a9018a929eb4b3.camel@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a356774e-f3aa-45e0-8181-d668e30f6d3e@fastmail.fm>

On 2026-05-12 14:48, David Cousens wrote:
> Your replies will not show up in the mailing list emails to you.

Really? Mine do, every time, and I'm definitely not CCing myself.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com/

From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 12 18:44:00 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:44:00 -0500
Subject: [GNC] i do not want to completely unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <da1e41c6-637a-4903-810b-547cdd2a10f8@gmail.com>
References: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
 <da1e41c6-637a-4903-810b-547cdd2a10f8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10u0afi$fu4$1@ciao.gmane.io>

And if your mail client supports threading messages, you can trash an 
entire conversation at once for topics of no interest. (though I'd 
caution to not be trigger happy too often, as new messages will just 
come in anyway on the same topic. I usually wait a few weeks to trash 
them, marking them 'as read' in the interim)

Another route is to set up Gmane access and use a news/mail client that 
supports Newsgroups. Then once you are comfortable with it, turn off 
e-mail receipt entirely. (but stay subscribed, so your replies don't get 
queued for moderation) See the Wiki for instructions. (yes, I know they 
need to be updated, but I figured it out with what is documented now, so 
it shouldn't be too hard.)

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/12/26 4:35 PM, Tom Route36 wrote:

> The volume of GnuCash emails can vary widely from day to day.? My 
> solution is to have a message filter that moves all GnuCash emails off 
> into a separate folder rather than my Inbox.? Basically any message with 
> "@gnucash.org" in the sender email address gets automatically moved 
> there.? Then as time permits I'll check that folder for subjects of 
> interest or concern to me.


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 12 18:48:42 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:48:42 -0500
Subject: [GNC] testing
In-Reply-To: <a356774e-f3aa-45e0-8181-d668e30f6d3e@fastmail.fm>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
 <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>
 <a7aa7f418f3b270cad1c2514d5a9018a929eb4b3.camel@gmail.com>
 <a356774e-f3aa-45e0-8181-d668e30f6d3e@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <10u0aob$ia2$1@ciao.gmane.io>

There is a Mailman preference to not receive your own messages. You must 
not have that turned on.

It is of course possible to save a copy locally via your e-mail client 
in a Sent or other folder.

It is also possible with some clients to thread that local copy for 
display purposes into a single 'conversation view' so you can see your 
own replies, and still not have Mailman send you copies.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/12/26 5:29 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:
> On 2026-05-12 14:48, David Cousens wrote:
>> Your replies will not show up in the mailing list emails to you.
> 
> Really? Mine do, every time, and I'm definitely not CCing myself.


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 12 18:54:20 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:54:20 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Current Version @ GnuCash.Org
In-Reply-To: <949300134.483732.1778620025841@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <27d728ffaed5caf5f483782748d0417c@smtp.hushmail.com>
 <MN2PR05MB7102CD5580618234E5301089AE4BA@MN2PR05MB7102.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <PH0PR05MB85913F201DFAC26EA9BB152AAE392@PH0PR05MB8591.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <949300134.483732.1778620025841@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <10u0b2t$1385$1@ciao.gmane.io>

The links all point to 5.14 versions. John's release announcement notes 
as much and provides direct links to the 5.15 downloads.

Since the OP is on Mint running the latest version, Flatpak is likely 
being used, so the versions linked on the main site aren't controlling.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/12/26 4:07 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> Other than the obvious typo, 5.15 was released on the planned date of March 29.
> 
>> According to the schedule, come 6/30 will version 5.16 still be released?
> 
> If history is any indicator of the future, I'd expect that 5.16 will be released as scheduled on June 28, so it will be available on June 30.
> 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 12 18:56:57 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:56:57 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Current Version @ GnuCash.Org
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR05MB85913F201DFAC26EA9BB152AAE392@PH0PR05MB8591.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <27d728ffaed5caf5f483782748d0417c@smtp.hushmail.com>
 <MN2PR05MB7102CD5580618234E5301089AE4BA@MN2PR05MB7102.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <PH0PR05MB85913F201DFAC26EA9BB152AAE392@PH0PR05MB8591.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <10u0b7p$f35$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Ken,

Yes, the site is out of date as I mention in my other reply. As you 
noticed, Flatpak will grab the latest regardless.

-----

Please simply start a NEW message to the list for a new topic rather 
than replying to someone else's topic thread. That way, folks can keep 
it straight what they are reading and replying to and where that fits in 
to each conversation. (but thanks for changing the subject line!)

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/12/26 3:26 PM, Ken Pyzik wrote:
> OK - so I remember awhile back that there was some discussion about hosting of gnucash.org maybe having some issues.  Today, I went to Gnucash.org and saw that it was working fine.  BUT.... it was saying on the page that the latest version is 5.14.  However, I know for fact the latest version is 5.15.  I have 5.15-1 installed on my machine (I am Linux Mint) and it is working fine.  Additionally, when I do flatpak update it says my version is the latest version.
> 
> Therefore, my question is ? is the website out of date?  Is the 5.15 version NOT official?  According to the schedule, come 6/30 will version 5.16 still be released?  Just asking...... thanks!


From mrecky.101 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 19:03:18 2026
From: mrecky.101 at gmail.com (Mike Brady)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 16:03:18 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Current Version @ GnuCash.Org
In-Reply-To: <mailman.219.1778624993.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
References: <mailman.219.1778624993.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Message-ID: <ea5e4b18-1322-4e8a-b134-caa20a5cc904@gmail.com>

For Windows users, note that "winget" offers a way to sidestep the 
common problem with the Gnucash installer downloaded from the main web 
site being blocked as malware. It's a command-line Windows package 
manager similar to the one in Linux, and can update most applications 
(including gnucash) in a Windows 10 or 11 computer.? Open a terminal or 
command window, and at the Powershell or command prompt type "winget 
upgrade gnucash" (if you already have an older version installed) or 
"winget install gnucash". The latest version usually becomes available a 
week or 2 after the official release. It generally runs quicker than the 
installer downloaded from the web site, too - maybe it skips some or all 
of the malware scanning otherwise done by Windows Security/Defender?

For a wider-ranging search for things to update, you can run "winget 
upgrade --all" or for the widest search "winget upgrade --all 
--include-unknown". If a version of gnucash higher than what you have is 
available, it'll be installed. Usual download source is at github. Fair 
warning, though: this search can turn up a lot of things to update, and 
you have to sit there and provide admin authorization for each 
(probably, there's a way to bypass that with a switch or an answer file, 
but I haven't gotten around to looking for it yet). I've tried logging 
into a terminal with admin rights, but for some reason the search didn't 
work for me that way.

Yes, there *is* still a Windows command line...

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/package-manager/winget/

Mike Brady
Plain Olde User

On 12 May 2026, Ken Pyzik <pyz01 at outlook.com>? wrote:

> OK - so I remember awhile back that there was some discussion about hosting of gnucash.org maybe having some issues.  Today, I went to Gnucash.org and saw that it was working fine.  BUT.... it was saying on the page that the latest version is 5.14.  However, I know for fact the latest version is 5.15.  I have 5.15-1 installed on my machine (I am Linux Mint) and it is working fine.  Additionally, when I do flatpak update it says my version is the latest version.
>
> Therefore, my question is ? is the website out of date?  Is the 5.15 version NOT official?  According to the schedule, come 6/30 will version 5.16 still be released?  Just asking...... thanks!
>
> Ken
>
and Patrick James <patrickjames14 at comcast.net> wrote:
> ------------------------------
>
>
> Other than the obvious typo, 5.15 was released on the planned date of March 29.
>
>> According to the schedule, come 6/30 will version 5.16 still be released?
> If history is any indicator of the future, I'd expect that 5.16 will be released as scheduled on June 28, so it will be available on June 30.
>
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule
>
>
>> On 05/12/2026 1:26 PM PDT Ken Pyzik <pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> OK - so I remember awhile back that there was some discussion about hosting of gnucash.org maybe having some issues.  Today, I went to Gnucash.org and saw that it was working fine.  BUT.... it was saying on the page that the latest version is 5.14.  However, I know for fact the latest version is 5.15.  I have 5.15-1 installed on my machine (I am Linux Mint) and it is working fine.  Additionally, when I do flatpak update it says my version is the latest version.
>>
>> Therefore, my question is ? is the website out of date?  Is the 5.15 version NOT official?  According to the schedule, come 6/30 will version 5.16 still be released?  Just asking...... thanks!
>>
>> Ken

From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 12 19:02:04 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 18:02:04 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <2088371201.474059.1778604103869@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CAE+SoP1XCBtmCuoxzuHv0ehDsyKWCUKxJpNvdi56m4PZ6h7S+w@mail.gmail.com>
 <2088371201.474059.1778604103869@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <10u0bhd$12ad$1@ciao.gmane.io>

I would not consider it safe, if even possible, to open a 5.x file using 
a 3.x version of GnuCash. I'm not saying you can't, but I'm pretty sure 
bouncing back and forth two major versions is not supported.

Better to just dual-boot and migrate the usage of GnuCash to Linux with 
a current Flatpak or at least v5.x repo version.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/12/26 11:41 AM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> I cannot recommend Windows 7, but if someone were to demand using Windows 7, then I'd suggest running GnuCash 3.11.


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 12 19:08:36 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 18:08:36 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Asking for pointers to help resources
In-Reply-To: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEf=QbDznEu_aVRQ7Rv0VV=r1PQ-fSNOs4i7nMBM1QjX+3KW5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10u0btm$mkf$1@ciao.gmane.io>

https://www.principlesofaccounting.com

Use the menu icon on the right if the menue isn't already visible. The 
menu is a list of book sections by chapter.

It is a free resource. (though they sell others)

This isn't so much about Q&A (the other reply for StackExchange would 
have been my answer) but a great reference for the basics with good 
examples. (though not covering every nuanced use-case)

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/3/26 9:32 PM, Clint Chaplin wrote:
> I'm fairly new to double-entry bookkeeping, but I think I understand the
> general principle, but when it comes to setting up a chart of accounts, it
> feels like there are so many ways to set up the tree structure, starting
> with what is at the higher levels vs. lower levels, and most trees are
> workable.  I realize this email list is about GnuChash, which will be used
> to instantiate whatever chart I develop, and so is not the correct place to
> be asking my questions.
> 
> Does anybody have a pointer to a place where I can ask questions about
> account charts and structures, and get some real world perspectives on what
> worked and what didn't?  And what may be GAAP and what isn't?
> 



From kalpesh.patel at usa.net  Tue May 12 20:56:37 2026
From: kalpesh.patel at usa.net (Kalpesh Patel)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 20:56:37 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <993E3394-024A-4F89-8B98-E651B36BFACF@yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.5.1778601601.15718.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <114f1ef5-753b-428c-94d0-b601dd8c4cba@earthlink.net>
 <993E3394-024A-4F89-8B98-E651B36BFACF@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00bb01dce273$5ac1a9b0$1044fd10$@usa.net>

Continuing off topic ...

Windows 10 is in extended-support mode, and if you have licensed one than MS has extended extended-support at no cost without much fanfare.

If you have Windows 7 supported hardware then Windows 10 is likely to install with no issues.  Performance might be a tad bit slow but it can be compensated with little more RAM and a SATA form of SSD drive. I have Windows 10 running on that hardware -- namely Core 2 Duo. I also remember that earlier versions of Windows 11 supported but since 24H2 I believe it won't even install due to additional hard checks at setup time. Of course Windows 1X on such hardware is not supported officially and YMMV with respect to future updates.

>From the best practice perspective, you shouldn't be on Window 7. Technology has advanced to the extent that malware/virus scanner do not support Windows 7 either, so there is a lot of exposure that you are taking on for which protection is not being accounted for. 

-----Original Message-----
From: David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2026 1:47 PM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org; Chris Skudder <CSkudder at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way

It's off topic, but: For the record, neither Windows 7 nor Windows 10 are supported by Microsoft any more. They are not safe to run if connected to any networks, as they receive no security updates. 

On May 12, 2026 10:50:55 PM GMT+05:30, Chris Skudder <CSkudder at earthlink.net> wrote:
>David thanks for the reminder on correcting the subject line.
>
>And yes, it would make a lot of sense to use the Win7 machine for the Linux system Quite possibly makes more sense than changing the Win10 machine, unless you have some other reason you want to keep Win7 alive.
>
>A "lighter" Linux "flavor" like Xubuntu will run beautifully on Win7-era hardware, and you'll still have a more-current Windows machine running along side it. If you're happy with Linux on the previously-Win7 machine you can then change over the Win 10 machine.
>
>good luck with it all.
>Chris
>
>
>*From:* gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org
>
>*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 12:00 PM EDT
>
>*To:* gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>
>*Subject:* gnucash-user Digest, Vol 278, Issue 18
>
>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 19:42:45 +0530
>> From: "David T."<sunfish62 at yahoo.com> To:gnucash-user at gnucash.org, 
>> Chris Skudder<CSkudder at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way 
>> Message-ID:<9764EB5C-029F-4439-8B82-ACBF7D014AFA at yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Or just take the (now seriously out of date) Win 7 machine and install Linux there and ensure the data file reads there...
>> 
>> After all, you're not likely to get anything else to run on that machine (and certainly not Windows 11)...
>> 
>> David T.
>> 
>> [Chris, if you are using a digest, you should remember to edit the 
>> subject line when replying]
>> 
>> On May 12, 2026 6:52:38 PM GMT+05:30, Chris Skudder<CSkudder at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Raymond,
>>> I'm not 100% clear on what you mean by:
>>> "use the Windows 7 computer as a backup, in case I muck the change over up"
>>> 
>>> IF by this you mean to simply preserve the GnuCash data file itself (and possibly some of the config files too), then you can copy those files onto a USB drive and just hold it aside while you work on the Win10/Linux machine.
>
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 21:24:20 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 18:24:20 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
Message-ID: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I wanted to share the 0.2.0 release of Cashdera, a local Windows desktop 
analytics companion for GnuCash.

Cashdera opens a local GnuCash book and builds a local SQLite cache for 
analytics. The original |.gnucash|file is not modified. There is no 
account, no server sync, no cloud upload, and no telemetry.

The goal is not to replace GnuCash. The goal is to provide a modern 
local analytics layer on top of existing GnuCash data.

What Cashdera currently focuses on:

  * Cashflow overview
  * Income and expense trends
  * Sankey-style money flow visualization
  * Transaction search and filtering
  * Net worth / balance sheet view
  * Year-over-year comparison
  * Basic anomaly alerts
  * Dark mode

The main architectural idea is cache-first analytics. Heavy parsing and 
aggregation happen during import/reimport. After that, dashboard pages 
read from precomputed local SQLite tables instead of repeatedly scanning 
the original book. This is meant to keep navigation and reporting fast, 
especially on larger books.

This is still an early beta, so I would be especially interested in 
feedback from people who use GnuCash with real-world books and care 
about local-first workflows.

Useful feedback would include:

  * Does the import work correctly with your book structure?
  * Are income/expense/category views accurate?
  * Are the reports useful compared with the built-in GnuCash reports?
  * Does the app remain responsive on larger books?
  * What analytics view is missing for your workflow?

GitHub release: https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.2.0

Project page / screenshots: 
https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v0.2.0

If you test it, I strongly recommend using a copy of your book first, as 
with any early beta software.

Thanks,
Ars


From edodd at billiau.net  Tue May 12 21:29:48 2026
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 11:29:48 +1000
Subject: [GNC] i do not want to completely unsubscribe
In-Reply-To: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
References: <143a2199-a150-4622-bc71-49054543e3a8@bullish.org>
Message-ID: <20260513112948.4631c186@zenbook3.billiau.net>

On Tue, 12 May 2026 03:13:06 -0500
"bbagley at bullish.org" <bbagley at bullish.org> wrote:

> but i would like to cut down dramatically on the # of emails
> received. How do i do that?? Thank you....b?
> 

Two choices

One is to get the "digest"
Two is to put the Gnucash mail to "none" and read online. This would
still allow you to post.
The relevant link will turn up below any signature on the list mail.


Liz

From edodd at billiau.net  Tue May 12 21:51:22 2026
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 11:51:22 +1000
Subject: [GNC] testing
In-Reply-To: <cc571a1800274e2fdd8b6fdfc9ddd87d.squirrel@mail.ihtfp.org>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
 <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>
 <cc571a1800274e2fdd8b6fdfc9ddd87d.squirrel@mail.ihtfp.org>
Message-ID: <20260513115122.6385f480@zenbook3.billiau.net>

On Tue, 12 May 2026 18:21:45 -0400
"Derek Atkins" <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 12, 2026 5:37 pm, Mark at Lorimark wrote:
> > are my emails getting through?  
> 
> Yes
> 
> >  Am I able to post in here?  
> 
> Yes
> 
> >  My replies are not showing up.  
> 
> Perhaps your account is set to not receive your own replies?
> 
> -derek
> 
> 
Another possibility is that you are using gmail services, because
suppressing your mails to a list is standard on gmail.

Liz

From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Tue May 12 21:57:05 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 18:57:05 -0700
Subject: [GNC] testing
In-Reply-To: <20260513115122.6385f480@zenbook3.billiau.net>
References: <mailman.189.1778566479.1504.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
 <199d1ddc-5156-4af0-8f26-181e149bb6d7@earthlink.net>
 <CAE+SoP3YX2JoATtEAsV7JQiVc6fo3RSX4drc5PpiSNBwo4jn1Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <d36afddc-bdf1-4c26-9770-bf4eac4de52d@lorimarksolutions.com>
 <cc571a1800274e2fdd8b6fdfc9ddd87d.squirrel@mail.ihtfp.org>
 <20260513115122.6385f480@zenbook3.billiau.net>
Message-ID: <0b31c302-921a-4e5d-ae60-5718f2748729@gmail.com>

yes

On 5/12/2026 6:51 PM, Liz wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2026 18:21:45 -0400
> "Derek Atkins" <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2026 5:37 pm, Mark at Lorimark wrote:
>>> are my emails getting through?
>> Yes
>>
>>>   Am I able to post in here?
>> Yes
>>
>>>   My replies are not showing up.
>> Perhaps your account is set to not receive your own replies?
>>
>> -derek
>>
>>
> Another possibility is that you are using gmail services, because
> suppressing your mails to a list is standard on gmail.
>
> Liz
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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Tue May 12 23:19:02 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 20:19:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>

As a reminder, John Ralls responded to Cashdera:

"BS. You ?shared" it because the people on this list are your target market: It?s not like your program would be useful to anyone who isn?t a GnuCash user.

You might not be charging for the ?public beta? but it?s clear that you?re planning to charge for the final product. That?s not ?free? in any sense of the word. The only thing free here is what you?re trying to get: Free advertising and free test engineering services.

That?s not welcome here.

Regards,
John Ralls"

https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2026-May/120487.html

> On 05/12/2026 6:24 PM PDT cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I wanted to share the 0.2.0 release of Cashdera, a local Windows desktop 
> analytics companion for GnuCash.
>

From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 00:17:37 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 21:17:37 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>

Hi John,

I need to correct a few things clearly.

Cashdera is not being sold. It is free, and the current Cashdera feature 
set is intended to remain free.

I did not post here to get ?free test engineering services.? I posted 
because Cashdera is a local companion tool for GnuCash users, and this 
list is where people understand GnuCash workflows, file structures, 
reporting limitations, and local-first accounting concerns.

To be clear:

  * Cashdera does not replace GnuCash.
  * Cashdera does not modify the original GnuCash book.
  * Cashdera does not upload financial data.
  * Cashdera has no account system, no server sync, and no telemetry.
  * Cashdera builds a local SQLite cache for analytics and reporting.
  * The current features are free.

I also think it is important for the community to know that some of the 
strongest criticism is not coming from a neutral user. At least one 
person repeatedly criticizing Cashdera is also promoting his own GnuCash 
reporting/analytics project in the same community. That is relevant context.

I have no problem with fair technical criticism. If someone says the 
import is wrong, the calculations are wrong, the reports are not useful, 
or the documentation is unclear, I want to hear that.

But it is not fair to present Cashdera as some kind of paid extraction 
attempt when it is a free local tool, does not collect data, and does 
not modify the user?s book.

If this mailing list has a clear rule that third-party GnuCash-related 
tools should not be announced here, I will respect that rule. But I do 
not think it is fair to allow one related reporting project to be 
discussed while treating another local companion tool as unwelcome 
simply because of assumptions about future monetization.

Regards,
Ars


On 5/12/2026 8:19 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> As a reminder, John Ralls responded to Cashdera:
>
> "BS. You ?shared" it because the people on this list are your target market: It?s not like your program would be useful to anyone who isn?t a GnuCash user.
>
> You might not be charging for the ?public beta? but it?s clear that you?re planning to charge for the final product. That?s not ?free? in any sense of the word. The only thing free here is what you?re trying to get: Free advertising and free test engineering services.
>
> That?s not welcome here.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls"
>
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2026-May/120487.html
>
>> On 05/12/2026 6:24 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I wanted to share the 0.2.0 release of Cashdera, a local Windows desktop
>> analytics companion for GnuCash.
>>
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Wed May 13 00:30:39 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 21:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
 <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <277418012.493949.1778646639336@connect.xfinity.com>

GnuCash is FOSS, and FOSS has been freely discussed here.

If you want to make Cashdera FOSS, I'll bet further discussion will be welcome here.


> On 05/12/2026 9:17 PM PDT cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> If this mailing list has a clear rule that third-party GnuCash-related 
> tools should not be announced here, I will respect that rule. But I do 
> not think it is fair to allow one related reporting project to be 
> discussed while treating another local companion tool as unwelcome 
> simply because of assumptions about future monetization.
> 
> Regards,
> Ars
>

From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 00:53:59 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 21:53:59 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <277418012.493949.1778646639336@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
 <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
 <277418012.493949.1778646639336@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <7e4e06f4-3982-4888-84f3-bb685295a584@gmail.com>

To be clear: Cashdera is free to download, free to use, and its current 
features are free to use.

Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import their GnuCash 
book, or use the analytics features currently included.

I understand that ?free to use? is not the same as FOSS. But it is still 
incorrect to imply that users are being charged for Cashdera or that 
Cashdera is a paid product.


On 5/12/2026 9:30 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> GnuCash is FOSS, and FOSS has been freely discussed here.
>
> If you want to make Cashdera FOSS, I'll bet further discussion will be welcome here.
>
>
>> On 05/12/2026 9:17 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> If this mailing list has a clear rule that third-party GnuCash-related
>> tools should not be announced here, I will respect that rule. But I do
>> not think it is fair to allow one related reporting project to be
>> discussed while treating another local companion tool as unwelcome
>> simply because of assumptions about future monetization.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ars
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Wed May 13 01:13:21 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 22:13:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <7e4e06f4-3982-4888-84f3-bb685295a584@gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
 <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
 <277418012.493949.1778646639336@connect.xfinity.com>
 <7e4e06f4-3982-4888-84f3-bb685295a584@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <249642120.494225.1778649201625@connect.xfinity.com>

I certainly have not surveyed everyone, but I'm wondering, who is fooling whom.


> On 05/12/2026 9:53 PM PDT cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> To be clear: Cashdera is free to download, free to use, and its current 
> features are free to use.
> 
> Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import their GnuCash 
> book, or use the analytics features currently included.
> 
> I understand that ?free to use? is not the same as FOSS. But it is still 
> incorrect to imply that users are being charged for Cashdera or that 
> Cashdera is a paid product.
> 
>

From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 01:20:50 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 22:20:50 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <249642120.494225.1778649201625@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
 <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
 <277418012.493949.1778646639336@connect.xfinity.com>
 <7e4e06f4-3982-4888-84f3-bb685295a584@gmail.com>
 <249642120.494225.1778649201625@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <eaa9f543-11b7-437d-b05d-ff7350b64332@gmail.com>

No one is being fooled.

Cashdera is free to download, free to install, and free to use. Its 
analytics features are free to use.

I am not claiming that ?free to use? is the same as FOSS. I am only 
correcting the false implication that Cashdera is a paid product.


On 5/12/2026 10:13 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> I certainly have not surveyed everyone, but I'm wondering, who is fooling whom.
>
>
>> On 05/12/2026 9:53 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> To be clear: Cashdera is free to download, free to use, and its current
>> features are free to use.
>>
>> Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import their GnuCash
>> book, or use the analytics features currently included.
>>
>> I understand that ?free to use? is not the same as FOSS. But it is still
>> incorrect to imply that users are being charged for Cashdera or that
>> Cashdera is a paid product.
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Wed May 13 01:40:03 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 22:40:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <eaa9f543-11b7-437d-b05d-ff7350b64332@gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
 <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
 <277418012.493949.1778646639336@connect.xfinity.com>
 <7e4e06f4-3982-4888-84f3-bb685295a584@gmail.com>
 <249642120.494225.1778649201625@connect.xfinity.com>
 <eaa9f543-11b7-437d-b05d-ff7350b64332@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <198056150.494299.1778650803698@connect.xfinity.com>

"It depends on what the definition of is is"

Please remember we all can read your license and messages.

> On 05/12/2026 10:20 PM PDT cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> No one is being fooled.
> 
> Cashdera is free to download, free to install, and free to use. Its 
> analytics features are free to use.
> 
> I am not claiming that ?free to use? is the same as FOSS. I am only 
> correcting the false implication that Cashdera is a paid product.
> 
>

From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 01:47:04 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 22:47:04 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <198056150.494299.1778650803698@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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There is no deception here.

Cashdera is free to download and free to use. I have not claimed that 
?free to use? means FOSS. The license is visible, and users can read it.

If your objection is that Cashdera is not FOSS, say that directly. That 
is a fair objection.

But implying that I am misleading users is not fair, not accurate, and 
not helpful.


On 5/12/2026 10:40 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> "It depends on what the definition of is is"
>
> Please remember we all can read your license and messages.
>
>> On 05/12/2026 10:20 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> No one is being fooled.
>>
>> Cashdera is free to download, free to install, and free to use. Its
>> analytics features are free to use.
>>
>> I am not claiming that ?free to use? is the same as FOSS. I am only
>> correcting the false implication that Cashdera is a paid product.
>>
>>
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 01:50:15 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 22:50:15 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <198056150.494299.1778650803698@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
 <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
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 <198056150.494299.1778650803698@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <f9dafac3-b944-4d01-8498-0d52f91ee172@gmail.com>

If you have tested Cashdera and found a technical issue, I would 
genuinely like to hear it.

Useful criticism would be things like incorrect import results, wrong 
balances, wrong income/expense classification, performance problems, or 
confusing UI.

But so far this thread is mostly about assumptions around intent and 
licensing, not about whether the software works correctly.

I am happy to discuss real technical feedback.


On 5/12/2026 10:40 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> "It depends on what the definition of is is"
>
> Please remember we all can read your license and messages.
>
>> On 05/12/2026 10:20 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> No one is being fooled.
>>
>> Cashdera is free to download, free to install, and free to use. Its
>> analytics features are free to use.
>>
>> I am not claiming that ?free to use? is the same as FOSS. I am only
>> correcting the false implication that Cashdera is a paid product.
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 02:01:12 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 07:01:12 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <f9dafac3-b944-4d01-8498-0d52f91ee172@gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAP-7JQ7tDxCA1zG93+WzSukNw8t16PW2225N35R3DPpQBiLB+g@mail.gmail.com>

Share the source code and I don?t think anyone will have an issue.

Sharing a closed source product you clearly want testers for, while
claiming it?s ?free? but also stating everytime it?s a ?beta? is so obvious
what you intend to do

On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 06:52, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have tested Cashdera and found a technical issue, I would
> genuinely like to hear it.
>
> Useful criticism would be things like incorrect import results, wrong
> balances, wrong income/expense classification, performance problems, or
> confusing UI.
>
> But so far this thread is mostly about assumptions around intent and
> licensing, not about whether the software works correctly.
>
> I am happy to discuss real technical feedback.
>
>
> On 5/12/2026 10:40 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> > "It depends on what the definition of is is"
> >
> > Please remember we all can read your license and messages.
> >
> >> On 05/12/2026 10:20 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> No one is being fooled.
> >>
> >> Cashdera is free to download, free to install, and free to use. Its
> >> analytics features are free to use.
> >>
> >> I am not claiming that ?free to use? is the same as FOSS. I am only
> >> correcting the false implication that Cashdera is a paid product.
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 02:06:36 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 23:06:36 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <CAP-7JQ7tDxCA1zG93+WzSukNw8t16PW2225N35R3DPpQBiLB+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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 <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
 <277418012.493949.1778646639336@connect.xfinity.com>
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 <249642120.494225.1778649201625@connect.xfinity.com>
 <eaa9f543-11b7-437d-b05d-ff7350b64332@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <43ec1d15-05ba-49de-a963-7562cce22222@gmail.com>

I understand the concern.

To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.

I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use. Users do 
not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash book, or use 
the included analytics features.

The software is still early and may have bugs.

If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be promoted 
here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But please don?t turn 
that into a claim that I am misleading users.


On 5/12/2026 11:01 PM, Elliot Graham wrote:
> Share the source code and I don?t think anyone will have an issue.
>
> Sharing a closed source product you clearly want testers for, while 
> claiming it?s ?free? but also stating everytime it?s a ?beta? is so 
> obvious what you intend to do
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 06:52, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     If you have tested Cashdera and found a technical issue, I would
>     genuinely like to hear it.
>
>     Useful criticism would be things like incorrect import results, wrong
>     balances, wrong income/expense classification, performance
>     problems, or
>     confusing UI.
>
>     But so far this thread is mostly about assumptions around intent and
>     licensing, not about whether the software works correctly.
>
>     I am happy to discuss real technical feedback.
>
>
>     On 5/12/2026 10:40 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
>     > "It depends on what the definition of is is"
>     >
>     > Please remember we all can read your license and messages.
>     >
>     >> On 05/12/2026 10:20 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> No one is being fooled.
>     >>
>     >> Cashdera is free to download, free to install, and free to use. Its
>     >> analytics features are free to use.
>     >>
>     >> I am not claiming that ?free to use? is the same as FOSS. I am only
>     >> correcting the false implication that Cashdera is a paid product.
>     >>
>     >>
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > gnucash-user mailing list
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From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 02:07:50 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 07:07:50 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <43ec1d15-05ba-49de-a963-7562cce22222@gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAP-7JQ78zoDau_8PHooGxpgBRSqxq5k8QYbKybzQ7WJ=fTPhGA@mail.gmail.com>

Closed source tools should not be promoted here.


On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 07:06, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I understand the concern.
>
> To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
>
> I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use. Users do
> not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash book, or use the
> included analytics features.
>
> The software is still early and may have bugs.
>
> If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be promoted
> here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But please don?t turn that
> into a claim that I am misleading users.
>
>
> On 5/12/2026 11:01 PM, Elliot Graham wrote:
>
> Share the source code and I don?t think anyone will have an issue.
>
> Sharing a closed source product you clearly want testers for, while
> claiming it?s ?free? but also stating everytime it?s a ?beta? is so obvious
> what you intend to do
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 06:52, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you have tested Cashdera and found a technical issue, I would
>> genuinely like to hear it.
>>
>> Useful criticism would be things like incorrect import results, wrong
>> balances, wrong income/expense classification, performance problems, or
>> confusing UI.
>>
>> But so far this thread is mostly about assumptions around intent and
>> licensing, not about whether the software works correctly.
>>
>> I am happy to discuss real technical feedback.
>>
>>
>> On 5/12/2026 10:40 PM, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
>> > "It depends on what the definition of is is"
>> >
>> > Please remember we all can read your license and messages.
>> >
>> >> On 05/12/2026 10:20 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No one is being fooled.
>> >>
>> >> Cashdera is free to download, free to install, and free to use. Its
>> >> analytics features are free to use.
>> >>
>> >> I am not claiming that ?free to use? is the same as FOSS. I am only
>> >> correcting the false implication that Cashdera is a paid product.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > gnucash-user mailing list
>> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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>> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Wed May 13 02:13:31 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <43ec1d15-05ba-49de-a963-7562cce22222@gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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 <f9dafac3-b944-4d01-8498-0d52f91ee172@gmail.com>
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 <43ec1d15-05ba-49de-a963-7562cce22222@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2076932875.494399.1778652811029@connect.xfinity.com>

FOSS is freely discussed here. You said Cashdera is not FOSS.


> On 05/12/2026 11:06 PM PDT cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> I understand the concern.
> 
> To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
> 
> I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use. Users do 
> not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash book, or use 
> the included analytics features.
> 
> The software is still early and may have bugs.
> 
> If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be promoted 
> here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But please don?t turn 
> that into a claim that I am misleading users.
> 
>

From edodd at billiau.net  Wed May 13 02:55:31 2026
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 16:55:31 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <2076932875.494399.1778652811029@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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 <2076932875.494399.1778652811029@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <20260513165531.5f8dc8cc@zenbook3.billiau.net>

On Tue, 12 May 2026 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick James via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

> FOSS is freely discussed here. You said Cashdera is not FOSS.
> 
> 
> > On 05/12/2026 11:06 PM PDT cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > I understand the concern.
> > 
> > To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
> > 
> > I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use.
> > Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash
> > book, or use the included analytics features.
> > 
> > The software is still early and may have bugs.
> > 
> > If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be
> > promoted here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But
> > please don?t turn that into a claim that I am misleading users.
> > 
> >  

While I differ from John Ralls in saying that Cashdera should not be
discussed at all on this list, I do not want to read any more posts
about the licensing of the Cashdera tool.

If you have something to say which is useful to potential users or the
developer, post those items, but no more on the licence.


Liz

Moderator


From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 03:05:34 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 00:05:34 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <20260513165531.5f8dc8cc@zenbook3.billiau.net>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <6036550b-bf39-4095-9048-9c3e3692862b@gmail.com>

Liz,

Understood.

I did not intend to turn this into a licensing discussion.

Going forward, I will keep any Cashdera-related posts limited to 
technical information useful to GnuCash users, such as import behavior, 
data handling, correctness issues, performance, and user feedback.

Regards,
Ars


On 5/12/2026 11:55 PM, Liz wrote:
> On Tue, 12 May 2026 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
> Patrick James via gnucash-user<gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>
>> FOSS is freely discussed here. You said Cashdera is not FOSS.
>>
>>
>>> On 05/12/2026 11:06 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>> I understand the concern.
>>>
>>> To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
>>>
>>> I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use.
>>> Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash
>>> book, or use the included analytics features.
>>>
>>> The software is still early and may have bugs.
>>>
>>> If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be
>>> promoted here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But
>>> please don?t turn that into a claim that I am misleading users.
>>>
>>>   
> While I differ from John Ralls in saying that Cashdera should not be
> discussed at all on this list, I do not want to read any more posts
> about the licensing of the Cashdera tool.
>
> If you have something to say which is useful to potential users or the
> developer, post those items, but no more on the licence.
>
>
> Liz
>
> Moderator
>
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
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From balivisits at gmail.com  Wed May 13 03:38:19 2026
From: balivisits at gmail.com (Bali Visits)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 15:38:19 +0800
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <6036550b-bf39-4095-9048-9c3e3692862b@gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
 <49c50715-4eba-49a4-9ccc-86eba225df51@gmail.com>
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Hello GnuCash Mailing List,

It has been interesting reading the comments regarding the Caldera
software.  here is my two cents worth:

I have little interest in the FOSS vs free software debate.  However, as a
long-time user of the wonderful GnuCash software, I have a strong interest
in information on tools that may enhance the GnuCash experience.  Caldera
might well be one of those tools.  Time will tell.  Can we lay the cudgels
down, and perhaps step back and take a breath?  It seemed to me that the
author of Caldera was simply throwing a beta out there and asking for
feedback.  Is this a hanging offence?

As I said, just my two cents worth.



On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 15:08, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Liz,
>
> Understood.
>
> I did not intend to turn this into a licensing discussion.
>
> Going forward, I will keep any Cashdera-related posts limited to
> technical information useful to GnuCash users, such as import behavior,
> data handling, correctness issues, performance, and user feedback.
>
> Regards,
> Ars
>
>
> On 5/12/2026 11:55 PM, Liz wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 May 2026 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
> > Patrick James via gnucash-user<gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> >> FOSS is freely discussed here. You said Cashdera is not FOSS.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 05/12/2026 11:06 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I understand the concern.
> >>>
> >>> To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
> >>>
> >>> I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use.
> >>> Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash
> >>> book, or use the included analytics features.
> >>>
> >>> The software is still early and may have bugs.
> >>>
> >>> If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be
> >>> promoted here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But
> >>> please don?t turn that into a claim that I am misleading users.
> >>>
> >>>
> > While I differ from John Ralls in saying that Cashdera should not be
> > discussed at all on this list, I do not want to read any more posts
> > about the licensing of the Cashdera tool.
> >
> > If you have something to say which is useful to potential users or the
> > developer, post those items, but no more on the licence.
> >
> >
> > Liz
> >
> > Moderator
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 03:41:54 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 08:41:54 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <CAOMgiF8U2Nm_90jxHV_ixSF_+z3DimvEMG3NHwiCp7_0-Kmxjw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAP-7JQ4u3UsCP-_3ear4f8qFwPk36LXcBO8OSZGqwO-TwS6ypQ@mail.gmail.com>

Ok in that case, let me introduce GNUDash.

https://github.com/QuirkyTurtle94/GnuDash

It does exactly what cashdera does with a remarkably similar interface
(because it was suspiciously released 2 weeks before cashdera existed).

It?s cross platform, free and open source.

(To note - I don?t expect anyone here to actually use my personal project,
I?m just showing you what happens if we allow endless promotion)

On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 08:39, Bali Visits <balivisits at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello GnuCash Mailing List,
>
> It has been interesting reading the comments regarding the Caldera
> software.  here is my two cents worth:
>
> I have little interest in the FOSS vs free software debate.  However, as a
> long-time user of the wonderful GnuCash software, I have a strong interest
> in information on tools that may enhance the GnuCash experience.  Caldera
> might well be one of those tools.  Time will tell.  Can we lay the cudgels
> down, and perhaps step back and take a breath?  It seemed to me that the
> author of Caldera was simply throwing a beta out there and asking for
> feedback.  Is this a hanging offence?
>
> As I said, just my two cents worth.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 15:08, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Liz,
> >
> > Understood.
> >
> > I did not intend to turn this into a licensing discussion.
> >
> > Going forward, I will keep any Cashdera-related posts limited to
> > technical information useful to GnuCash users, such as import behavior,
> > data handling, correctness issues, performance, and user feedback.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ars
> >
> >
> > On 5/12/2026 11:55 PM, Liz wrote:
> > > On Tue, 12 May 2026 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Patrick James via gnucash-user<gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> FOSS is freely discussed here. You said Cashdera is not FOSS.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 05/12/2026 11:06 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I understand the concern.
> > >>>
> > >>> To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use.
> > >>> Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash
> > >>> book, or use the included analytics features.
> > >>>
> > >>> The software is still early and may have bugs.
> > >>>
> > >>> If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be
> > >>> promoted here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But
> > >>> please don?t turn that into a claim that I am misleading users.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > > While I differ from John Ralls in saying that Cashdera should not be
> > > discussed at all on this list, I do not want to read any more posts
> > > about the licensing of the Cashdera tool.
> > >
> > > If you have something to say which is useful to potential users or the
> > > developer, post those items, but no more on the licence.
> > >
> > >
> > > Liz
> > >
> > > Moderator
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > gnucash-user mailing list
> > > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 03:50:18 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 00:50:18 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
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Thank you. I appreciate your comment.

That was my intention: to share an early beta of a local analytics 
companion for GnuCash and get practical feedback from people who 
understand real GnuCash workflows.

I am happy to move the discussion away from licensing arguments and back 
to useful feedback: import correctness, data handling, performance, 
reporting usefulness, and missing analytics views.

Regards,
Ars


On 5/13/2026 12:38 AM, Bali Visits wrote:
> Hello GnuCash Mailing List,
>
> It has been interesting reading the comments regarding the Caldera 
> software.? here is my two cents worth:
>
> I have little interest in the FOSS vs free software?debate.? However, 
> as a long-time user of the wonderful GnuCash software, I have a strong 
> interest in information on tools that may enhance the GnuCash 
> experience. Caldera might well be one of those tools.? Time will tell. 
> Can we lay the cudgels down, and perhaps step back and take a breath?? 
> It seemed to me that the author of Caldera was simply throwing a beta 
> out there and asking for feedback.? Is this a hanging offence?
>
> As I said, just my two cents worth.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 15:08, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Liz,
>
>     Understood.
>
>     I did not intend to turn this into a licensing discussion.
>
>     Going forward, I will keep any Cashdera-related posts limited to
>     technical information useful to GnuCash users, such as import
>     behavior,
>     data handling, correctness issues, performance, and user feedback.
>
>     Regards,
>     Ars
>
>
>     On 5/12/2026 11:55 PM, Liz wrote:
>     > On Tue, 12 May 2026 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
>     > Patrick James via gnucash-user<gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>     >
>     >> FOSS is freely discussed here. You said Cashdera is not FOSS.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>> On 05/12/2026 11:06 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> I understand the concern.
>     >>>
>     >>> To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
>     >>>
>     >>> I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use.
>     >>> Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash
>     >>> book, or use the included analytics features.
>     >>>
>     >>> The software is still early and may have bugs.
>     >>>
>     >>> If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be
>     >>> promoted here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But
>     >>> please don?t turn that into a claim that I am misleading users.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     > While I differ from John Ralls in saying that Cashdera should not be
>     > discussed at all on this list, I do not want to read any more posts
>     > about the licensing of the Cashdera tool.
>     >
>     > If you have something to say which is useful to potential users
>     or the
>     > developer, post those items, but no more on the licence.
>     >
>     >
>     > Liz
>     >
>     > Moderator
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > gnucash-user mailing list
>     > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>     > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
>     > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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>     > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 03:52:59 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 00:52:59 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <CAP-7JQ4u3UsCP-_3ear4f8qFwPk36LXcBO8OSZGqwO-TwS6ypQ@mail.gmail.com>
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This is exactly why the discussion should stay technical.

I am not going to attack GNUDash or its author. Similar tools can exist 
because GnuCash reporting and analytics is an obvious area where users 
may want more options.

Cashdera is my own project, with its own implementation, architecture, 
and roadmap.

If people want to compare tools, that should be done on facts: import 
correctness, performance, platform support, reporting features, UI/UX, 
privacy model, and maintenance.

But suggesting misconduct without evidence is not fair and does not help 
GnuCash users.

Regards,
Ars


On 5/13/2026 12:41 AM, Elliot Graham wrote:
> Ok in that case, let me introduce GNUDash.
>
> https://github.com/QuirkyTurtle94/GnuDash
>
> It does exactly what cashdera does with a remarkably similar 
> interface? (because it was suspiciously released 2 weeks before 
> cashdera existed).
>
> It?s cross platform, free and open source.
>
> (To note - I don?t expect anyone here to actually use my personal 
> project, I?m just showing you what happens if we allow endless promotion)
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 08:39, Bali Visits <balivisits at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hello GnuCash Mailing List,
>
>     It has been interesting reading the comments regarding the Caldera
>     software.? here is my two cents worth:
>
>     I have little interest in the FOSS vs free software debate.
>     However, as a
>     long-time user of the wonderful GnuCash software, I have a strong
>     interest
>     in information on tools that may enhance the GnuCash experience.?
>     Caldera
>     might well be one of those tools.? Time will tell.? Can we lay the
>     cudgels
>     down, and perhaps step back and take a breath?? It seemed to me
>     that the
>     author of Caldera was simply throwing a beta out there and asking for
>     feedback.? Is this a hanging offence?
>
>     As I said, just my two cents worth.
>
>
>
>     On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 15:08, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     > Liz,
>     >
>     > Understood.
>     >
>     > I did not intend to turn this into a licensing discussion.
>     >
>     > Going forward, I will keep any Cashdera-related posts limited to
>     > technical information useful to GnuCash users, such as import
>     behavior,
>     > data handling, correctness issues, performance, and user feedback.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Ars
>     >
>     >
>     > On 5/12/2026 11:55 PM, Liz wrote:
>     > > On Tue, 12 May 2026 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
>     > > Patrick James via gnucash-user<gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>     > >
>     > >> FOSS is freely discussed here. You said Cashdera is not FOSS.
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>> On 05/12/2026 11:06 PM PDT cashdera<cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>> I understand the concern.
>     > >>>
>     > >>> To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
>     > >>>
>     > >>> I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use.
>     > >>> Users do not pay anything to install it, run it, import a
>     GnuCash
>     > >>> book, or use the included analytics features.
>     > >>>
>     > >>> The software is still early and may have bugs.
>     > >>>
>     > >>> If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be
>     > >>> promoted here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But
>     > >>> please don?t turn that into a claim that I am misleading users.
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > > While I differ from John Ralls in saying that Cashdera should
>     not be
>     > > discussed at all on this list, I do not want to read any more
>     posts
>     > > about the licensing of the Cashdera tool.
>     > >
>     > > If you have something to say which is useful to potential
>     users or the
>     > > developer, post those items, but no more on the licence.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Liz
>     > >
>     > > Moderator
>     > >
>     > > _______________________________________________
>     > > gnucash-user mailing list
>     > > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>     > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
>     > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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From will at theprescotts.com  Wed May 13 11:25:22 2026
From: will at theprescotts.com (William Prescott)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 09:25:22 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <249642120.494225.1778649201625@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
 <1612490832.493200.1778642342932@connect.xfinity.com>
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 <249642120.494225.1778649201625@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <EE8727FB-04D2-411D-A245-AA3D2FC81B86@theprescotts.com>

I am a long time user of GnuCash, and a full-stack developer for the past 10 years (after another career), but not a GnuCash developer. 

I have no interest in seeing this forum used for the promotion of for-profit products. The developer of Cashdera clearly states repeatedly that "its current features are free to use". That is a very clear signal that the app is being released as a teaser to get people to pay to update to the non-free version.

I think it is fine for this forum to include discussions about FOSS (Free Open Source Software) additions or enhancements to Gnucash. I don't want to see this forum used for commercial promotions.

Just my personal opinion,
Will

From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Wed May 13 13:43:36 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 12:43:36 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <CAP-7JQ4u3UsCP-_3ear4f8qFwPk36LXcBO8OSZGqwO-TwS6ypQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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Thanks for the link! (and the effort!)

I'm curious though, why not work this directly into GnuCash's reporting 
system? (same question for Ars) Is Scheme too high a bar? (I'm under no 
illusion that it is simple)


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/13/26 2:41 AM, Elliot Graham wrote:
> Ok in that case, let me introduce GNUDash.
> 
> https://github.com/QuirkyTurtle94/GnuDash
> 
> It does exactly what cashdera does with a remarkably similar interface
> (because it was suspiciously released 2 weeks before cashdera existed).
> 
> It?s cross platform, free and open source.
> 
> (To note - I don?t expect anyone here to actually use my personal project,
> I?m just showing you what happens if we allow endless promotion)


From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 13:48:44 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 18:48:44 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <10u2d89$66m$1@ciao.gmane.io>
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So I?d love to contribute to the GNUcash source but frankly I?m a bit
afraid, and through asking around a bit, it?s quite a major change needed
to move away from guile to a more SQL-like data model.

If someone here would help introduce me to how best to contribute
meaningfully, I?d love to give it a go!

(I have done it for my own installation, but using WebKit in a non-cross
compatible way which certainly wouldn?t be accepted. That?s where gnudash
came from ie making it standalone)

Thanks,
Elliot

On Wed, 13 May 2026 at 18:46, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the link! (and the effort!)
>
> I'm curious though, why not work this directly into GnuCash's reporting
> system? (same question for Ars) Is Scheme too high a bar? (I'm under no
> illusion that it is simple)
>
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/13/26 2:41 AM, Elliot Graham wrote:
> > Ok in that case, let me introduce GNUDash.
> >
> > https://github.com/QuirkyTurtle94/GnuDash
> >
> > It does exactly what cashdera does with a remarkably similar interface
> > (because it was suspiciously released 2 weeks before cashdera existed).
> >
> > It?s cross platform, free and open source.
> >
> > (To note - I don?t expect anyone here to actually use my personal
> project,
> > I?m just showing you what happens if we allow endless promotion)
>
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From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Wed May 13 13:53:29 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 12:53:29 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Runtime to terminate in an unusual way
In-Reply-To: <00bb01dce273$5ac1a9b0$1044fd10$@usa.net>
References: <mailman.5.1778601601.15718.gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
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Message-ID: <10u2dqq$6o8$1@ciao.gmane.io>

If the Win7 box is not online, there shouldn't be any security issue. I 
even used to run an XP vm that had no network adapter just to run a 
particular app. Eventually I upped that vm to Win7 because the app 
required it. But it still doesn't have a network connection. It has 
never been hacked. I only run that one app in it. If it is a physical 
box that dual boots where you need a network in one OS but not Win7, 
then just use Device Manager to remove the network adapter in Windows 
and set the Firewall to block-all just in case it tries to re-activate 
it for some reason.

For the record, you can still manually download the latest virus 
definitions and install them for Win7. (I have another Win7 vm that 
*does* have a VPN connection for one particular work app, so I still 
manage those definitions just in case, but again, there is very little 
risk there, someone would have to hack the endpoint first and then 
tunnel through)

With any of XP, 7 or 10 (no one sanely uses 8 right?) you can turn off 
lots of bling to pep it up. BlackViper was a good resource for those 
older systems to turn off services you don't need as well. Win10 is a 
bit more ornery on that front, but you can still slim it down if needed. 
(even craft a custom ISO if you have to go that far)

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/12/26 7:56 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
> Continuing off topic ...
> 
> Windows 10 is in extended-support mode, and if you have licensed one than MS has extended extended-support at no cost without much fanfare.
> 
> If you have Windows 7 supported hardware then Windows 10 is likely to install with no issues.  Performance might be a tad bit slow but it can be compensated with little more RAM and a SATA form of SSD drive. I have Windows 10 running on that hardware -- namely Core 2 Duo. I also remember that earlier versions of Windows 11 supported but since 24H2 I believe it won't even install due to additional hard checks at setup time. Of course Windows 1X on such hardware is not supported officially and YMMV with respect to future updates.
> 
>  From the best practice perspective, you shouldn't be on Window 7. Technology has advanced to the extent that malware/virus scanner do not support Windows 7 either, so there is a lot of exposure that you are taking on for which protection is not being accounted for.


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Wed May 13 13:56:43 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 12:56:43 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <CAP-7JQ6s=-N8mrVf9O0ABYe+q_Kf3aQ6tGbenHbDw1ZD9E8+pg@mail.gmail.com>
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Roger that. I suspected as much. Indeed, from what I gather, WebKit is a 
bit of a pain due to differing versions on each platform.

I'll see if I can get GnuDash up and running and poke around a bit.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/13/26 12:48 PM, Elliot Graham wrote:
> So I?d love to contribute to the GNUcash source but frankly I?m a bit
> afraid, and through asking around a bit, it?s quite a major change needed
> to move away from guile to a more SQL-like data model.
> 
> If someone here would help introduce me to how best to contribute
> meaningfully, I?d love to give it a go!
> 
> (I have done it for my own installation, but using WebKit in a non-cross
> compatible way which certainly wouldn?t be accepted. That?s where gnudash
> came from ie making it standalone)


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Wed May 13 14:04:48 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 13:04:48 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <5orn9qp5-1885-s42s-s1on-659or26oor68@puvarg.pbz>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
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Message-ID: <10u2eg1$9au$1@ciao.gmane.io>

You volunteered to be an IRS guinea pig? Wow.

Anyway, if you have both deduction and recovery in the same year (for 
different events) can you not just take the net and report that result?

You might have to do a dance with some virtual transactions to get that 
net into the proper tax-form-linked account, but I should think that is 
doable. (as long as it is legal of course)

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/12/26 1:09 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
  The store asked me to allow them to submit the bills as a test
> case in how they would seek reimbursement as it might mean more business for
> them in future, so I provided a prescription and authorized them to fuss
> with the bills. Yhe reimbursement came in three checks, from the store as
> the received one insurance payment, from Medicare, then from the supplement
> insurance carrier.


From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Wed May 13 14:31:40 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 11:31:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <10u2eg1$9au$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
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The challenge with "both deduction and recovery" is that the reimbursement was unexpected in the prior year, but moving forward the recovery is expected--unless, of course, Congress changes the rules again.

Following my basic strategy of only deduct amounts where the outlook is a high probability of no reimbursement, I would have nothing to dance around. I mean, yeah, sure, I could dance with expected reimbursements, but then that just pushes the same situation into the following year.

But this should be the problem everyone wants! I want unexpected medical reimbursements, and so what if I have to claim the reimbursement as income because I previously expected all the money to come out of my pocket. This is a bit like those mega lottery winnings: "I owe a bunch of taxes because I won a lot of money."

In summary: The bad news is that because of a past deduction to reduce taxes last year there will be an increased tax liability this year. The good news is that the income only goes up by the unexpected cash in hand.


> On 05/13/2026 11:04 AM PDT Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> You volunteered to be an IRS guinea pig? Wow.
> 
> Anyway, if you have both deduction and recovery in the same year (for 
> different events) can you not just take the net and report that result?
> 
> You might have to do a dance with some virtual transactions to get that 
> net into the proper tax-form-linked account, but I should think that is 
> doable. (as long as it is legal of course)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
>

From kalpesh.patel at usa.net  Wed May 13 15:52:05 2026
From: kalpesh.patel at usa.net (Kalpesh Patel)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 15:52:05 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <2076932875.494399.1778652811029@connect.xfinity.com>
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Why don't you release Cashdera as FOSS?  

The copyright notice caught me off-guard as well, as my main understanding is/was that this list is for FOSS based gnucash and contribution that embodies spirit of FOSS. FOSS application data can generally be used in proprietary software, but that breaks the spirit of adhering to FOSS and specifically how this board operates.

The major dismay felt here is that the initial post coming across was really contrary to the spirit, and it wasn't abundantly stated as closed sourced upfront until reading T&C. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick James <patrickjames14 at comcast.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2026 2:14 AM
To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release

FOSS is freely discussed here. You said Cashdera is not FOSS.


> On 05/12/2026 11:06 PM PDT cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> I understand the concern.
> 
> To be clear, I am not claiming that Cashdera is FOSS. It is not.
> 
> I am saying that Cashdera is free to download and free to use. Users 
> do not pay anything to install it, run it, import a GnuCash book, or 
> use the included analytics features.
> 
> The software is still early and may have bugs.
> 
> If the objection is simply ?closed source tools should not be promoted 
> here,? that is a fair community rule to discuss. But please don?t turn 
> that into a claim that I am misleading users.
> 
>



From davidvernonlong at gmail.com  Wed May 13 15:59:23 2026
From: davidvernonlong at gmail.com (David Long)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 20:59:23 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Customer Report
Message-ID: <CAD48BQDvT41GLwtiODzK0Ot-qWZ+s+PCMretZqcaVMEyuFDoug@mail.gmail.com>

I would like to send a statement of account to customers showing only those
invoices which have not been paid and also unmatched cash.
It seems such an obvious requirement , but I cannot find such a report.

David

From ahk at chinet.com  Wed May 13 16:32:59 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 15:32:59 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <10u2eg1$9au$1@ciao.gmane.io>
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Message-ID: <4q127sq8-194q-rp5n-88ro-075194779382@puvarg.pbz>

1:04pm -0000 05/13/26 Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:

>You volunteered to be an IRS guinea pig? Wow.

Medicare!

>Anyway, if you have both deduction and recovery in the same year (for 
>different events) can you not just take the net and report that result?

If the expense and the reimbursement are the same year, yes, that is the 
correct way to do it.

>You might have to do a dance with some virtual transactions to get that net 
>into the proper tax-form-linked account, but I should think that is doable. 
>(as long as it is legal of course)

Since I now have to characterize a reimbursement in a subsequent year as a 
recovery, I'll use an "includible" tax-linked subaccount and an "excludable" 
subaccount that's not tax linked.

I may regret doing it this way as the ultimate parent account is "other 
income", which will need "includible" and "excludable" subaccounts as 
needed.

From tom.route36 at gmail.com  Wed May 13 18:08:00 2026
From: tom.route36 at gmail.com (Tom Route36)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 16:08:00 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <EE8727FB-04D2-411D-A245-AA3D2FC81B86@theprescotts.com>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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Hi Will,

I noticed a similar statement by Ars in a reply he made to John Ralls:

--> "It is free, and the current Cashdera feature set is intended to 
remain free."

The two red flags in that sentence are "current" and "intended". Ars 
basically says that *future* features almost certainly won't be free, 
and quite likely (in the future) even the *current* features will cost 
you money too.

Essentially, this is asking for folks here to provide free QA testing 
for this Cashdera beta software.? And once you get hooked on it (if you 
really want to keep using it), you're going to have to start paying for 
it.? What a deal!? No thanks.

Tom


On 5/13/2026 9:25 AM, William Prescott wrote:
> I am a long time user of GnuCash, and a full-stack developer for the past 10 years (after another career), but not a GnuCash developer.
>
> I have no interest in seeing this forum used for the promotion of for-profit products. The developer of Cashdera clearly states repeatedly that "its current features are free to use". That is a very clear signal that the app is being released as a teaser to get people to pay to update to the non-free version.
>
> I think it is fine for this forum to include discussions about FOSS (Free Open Source Software) additions or enhancements to Gnucash. I don't want to see this forum used for commercial promotions.
>
> Just my personal opinion,
> Will
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From bschuck at asgard-systems.com  Thu May 14 11:46:11 2026
From: bschuck at asgard-systems.com (Bruce Schuck)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 08:46:11 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
Message-ID: <38466b88-6bd8-4b5c-8a6c-b66cd1e78f6a@asgard-systems.com>

License issues aside, the first issue I see is the lack of support for 
all possible OS + data store combinations. Seems that Cashdera is (at 
least currently) a MS Windows only application that supports just the 
XML storage option of GnuCash. While GnuCash runs on Win, Mac, and 
Linux; with the user's data stored in either XML, SQLite, MySQL, or 
PostgreSQL.

I haven't looked to deeply myself, but I wonder if there exists any 
analytics pertaining to how many of each combination are in use. I 
suspect the majority of GnuCash users are on Linux or Mac.

Bruce S.

From wm at ilipsis.net  Thu May 14 13:20:53 2026
From: wm at ilipsis.net (Wm Tarr)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 18:20:53 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
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 <20260513165531.5f8dc8cc@zenbook3.billiau.net>
 <6036550b-bf39-4095-9048-9c3e3692862b@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <358d51fd-14b7-4df5-80d3-2884bbff6580@ilipsis.net>

You should probably start a new thread for GNUDash before conversation 
about it progresses more.

Wm

On 2026-05-13 08:41, Elliot Graham wrote:
> Ok in that case, let me introduce GNUDash.
>
> https://github.com/QuirkyTurtle94/GnuDash
>
> It does exactly what cashdera does with a remarkably similar interface
> (because it was suspiciously released 2 weeks before cashdera existed).
>
> It?s cross platform, free and open source.
>
> (To note - I don?t expect anyone here to actually use my personal project,
> I?m just showing you what happens if we allow endless promotion)
>
>

From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Thu May 14 14:19:45 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 13:19:45 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Customer Report
In-Reply-To: <CAD48BQDvT41GLwtiODzK0Ot-qWZ+s+PCMretZqcaVMEyuFDoug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD48BQDvT41GLwtiODzK0Ot-qWZ+s+PCMretZqcaVMEyuFDoug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10u53o2$8l3$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Indeed that doesn't exist.

The present Customer Report shows all activity for a date range. This is 
similar to a bank statement.

There is an option to turn on Simple/Detailed Transaction Links which 
will show that an invoice has payments applied, and Payments are linked 
to particular invoices. That would highlight those invoices which are 
not fully paid, and any payments which are just hanging around not 
applied to anything.

Is that close enough?

Otherwise, you can do Business > Customer > Find Invoice and match to 
'is paid?' as not to see what is still open. Though that won't show 
unlinked payments like the above report. Note, you also can't print or 
export those Find results.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/13/26 2:59 PM, David Long wrote:
> I would like to send a statement of account to customers showing only those
> invoices which have not been paid and also unmatched cash.
> It seems such an obvious requirement , but I cannot find such a report.


From jralls at ceridwen.us  Thu May 14 14:45:09 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 11:45:09 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <38466b88-6bd8-4b5c-8a6c-b66cd1e78f6a@asgard-systems.com>
References: <38466b88-6bd8-4b5c-8a6c-b66cd1e78f6a@asgard-systems.com>
Message-ID: <5AE24F44-74C1-43DF-B85E-4733077B9CF8@ceridwen.us>

Bruce,

Based on download numbers Windows beats Mac 5 to 1 (about 7200 Windows downloads from Sourceforge for 5.15 so far vs. about 1400 for Mac-Arm) . We don?t have much visibility into Linux installs except for Flatpaks, where there have been about 3300 installs since March 28.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 14, 2026, at 08:46, Bruce Schuck <bschuck at asgard-systems.com> wrote:
> 
> License issues aside, the first issue I see is the lack of support for all possible OS + data store combinations. Seems that Cashdera is (at least currently) a MS Windows only application that supports just the XML storage option of GnuCash. While GnuCash runs on Win, Mac, and Linux; with the user's data stored in either XML, SQLite, MySQL, or PostgreSQL.
> 
> I haven't looked to deeply myself, but I wonder if there exists any analytics pertaining to how many of each combination are in use. I suspect the majority of GnuCash users are on Linux or Mac.
> 
> Bruce S.
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From bschuck at asgard-systems.com  Thu May 14 14:52:06 2026
From: bschuck at asgard-systems.com (Bruce Schuck)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 11:52:06 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <5AE24F44-74C1-43DF-B85E-4733077B9CF8@ceridwen.us>
References: <38466b88-6bd8-4b5c-8a6c-b66cd1e78f6a@asgard-systems.com>
 <5AE24F44-74C1-43DF-B85E-4733077B9CF8@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <069b319b-02a3-4f80-9b3f-5761b98fc101@asgard-systems.com>

On 5/14/26 11:45, John Ralls wrote:

> Based on download numbers Windows beats Mac 5 to 1 (about 7200
> Windows downloads from Sourceforge for 5.15 so far vs. about 1400
> for Mac-Arm) . We don?t have much visibility into Linux installs
> except for Flatpaks, where there have been about 3300 installs since
> March 28.
Well call me surprised.

From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Thu May 14 15:11:10 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 20:11:10 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <358d51fd-14b7-4df5-80d3-2884bbff6580@ilipsis.net>
References: <d8967ff4-84cf-4a6f-aacf-315e49c5ac75@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAP-7JQ4M5KqCnMWsHPS_ZJeWVhFL45xusCxdkRy+rQCKd7C01A@mail.gmail.com>

I don?t want to promote my project on this mailing list, I want to help
other users use gnuCash - the real MVP project

On Thu, 14 May 2026 at 18:22, Wm Tarr <wm at ilipsis.net> wrote:

> You should probably start a new thread for GNUDash before conversation
> about it progresses more.
>
> Wm
>
> On 2026-05-13 08:41, Elliot Graham wrote:
> > Ok in that case, let me introduce GNUDash.
> >
> > https://github.com/QuirkyTurtle94/GnuDash
> >
> > It does exactly what cashdera does with a remarkably similar interface
> > (because it was suspiciously released 2 weeks before cashdera existed).
> >
> > It?s cross platform, free and open source.
> >
> > (To note - I don?t expect anyone here to actually use my personal
> project,
> > I?m just showing you what happens if we allow endless promotion)
> >
> >
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From jralls at ceridwen.us  Thu May 14 15:24:27 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 12:24:27 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <069b319b-02a3-4f80-9b3f-5761b98fc101@asgard-systems.com>
References: <38466b88-6bd8-4b5c-8a6c-b66cd1e78f6a@asgard-systems.com>
 <5AE24F44-74C1-43DF-B85E-4733077B9CF8@ceridwen.us>
 <069b319b-02a3-4f80-9b3f-5761b98fc101@asgard-systems.com>
Message-ID: <88F1967C-53E5-4C3E-933D-196B9C2844B8@ceridwen.us>



> On May 14, 2026, at 11:52, Bruce Schuck <bschuck at asgard-systems.com> wrote:
> 
> On 5/14/26 11:45, John Ralls wrote:
> 
>> Based on download numbers Windows beats Mac 5 to 1 (about 7200
>> Windows downloads from Sourceforge for 5.15 so far vs. about 1400
>> for Mac-Arm) . We don?t have much visibility into Linux installs
>> except for Flatpaks, where there have been about 3300 installs since
>> March 28.
> Well call me surprised.

On the other hand Github paints a somewhat different picture: 5314 Windows downloads, 7208 for Mac-Arm  and 2022 for Mac-Intel. Combine the two and Windows is still a bit ahead: 12,500 for Windows vs. 10,600 for Mac.

BTW, I need to clarify that the 1400 Mac downloads from Sourceforge are for both Arm (1200) and Intel (200).

But wait! The downloads section of www.gnucash.org <http://www.gnucash.org/> is still pointing at the GnuCash 5.14 downloads. Since the release of 5.15, there have been more than 24,000 downloads of GnuCash 5.14 for Windows, 4890 for Mac-Arm, and 1600 for Mac-Intel. Add those in and it?s 36,500 Windows vs. 17,100 Mac, so a little more than 2:1 in favor of Windows. 

Regards,
John Ralls


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Thu May 14 18:01:36 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 17:01:36 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera 0.2.0 release
In-Reply-To: <88F1967C-53E5-4C3E-933D-196B9C2844B8@ceridwen.us>
References: <38466b88-6bd8-4b5c-8a6c-b66cd1e78f6a@asgard-systems.com>
 <5AE24F44-74C1-43DF-B85E-4733077B9CF8@ceridwen.us>
 <069b319b-02a3-4f80-9b3f-5761b98fc101@asgard-systems.com>
 <88F1967C-53E5-4C3E-933D-196B9C2844B8@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <10u5go2$eno$1@ciao.gmane.io>

And certainly, there are lots of folks who don't upgrade every release, 
particularly on Linux, and especially those using an LTS OS. (some may 
even still be using 2.x!)

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/14/26 2:24 PM, John Ralls wrote:

> On the other hand Github paints a somewhat different picture: 5314 Windows downloads, 7208 for Mac-Arm  and 2022 for Mac-Intel. Combine the two and Windows is still a bit ahead: 12,500 for Windows vs. 10,600 for Mac.
> 
> BTW, I need to clarify that the 1400 Mac downloads from Sourceforge are for both Arm (1200) and Intel (200).
> 
> But wait! The downloads section of www.gnucash.org <http://www.gnucash.org/> is still pointing at the GnuCash 5.14 downloads. Since the release of 5.15, there have been more than 24,000 downloads of GnuCash 5.14 for Windows, 4890 for Mac-Arm, and 1600 for Mac-Intel. Add those in and it?s 36,500 Windows vs. 17,100 Mac, so a little more than 2:1 in favor of Windows.


From scamidge at proton.me  Thu May 14 17:03:02 2026
From: scamidge at proton.me (Stephen Camidge)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 21:03:02 +0000
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
Message-ID: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>

I have been using the lastest version of GnuCash on Zorin 18.5 (Linux). That machine today made a loud pop and is dead until I can get it fixed.

I moved backup data to an old Mac. When I open it with GnuCash for Mac 5.14-1, it loads the data until January even though it is today's backup.

What do I need to do to fix it?

Thank you

From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Fri May 15 06:48:11 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 16:18:11 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
In-Reply-To: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
References: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
Message-ID: <8353995D-19AC-4F80-B589-0EA9ECB52EA4@yahoo.com>

Well, this is not really a "Linux to Max problem" so much as "I can't locate my most recent data file" problem. 

I'd start by double checking that you actually have the file you were using on the Linux box. 

When you say that you moved backup data to an old Mac, how did you do that? Did you pull the hard drive from the dead machine and connect it to the Mac? Or was it an actual backup that you made? If this, when was that backup made? 

David T. 

On May 15, 2026 2:33:02 AM GMT+05:30, Stephen Camidge via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>I have been using the lastest version of GnuCash on Zorin 18.5 (Linux). That machine today made a loud pop and is dead until I can get it fixed.
>
>I moved backup data to an old Mac. When I open it with GnuCash for Mac 5.14-1, it loads the data until January even though it is today's backup.
>
>What do I need to do to fix it?
>
>Thank you
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From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Fri May 15 08:29:30 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 17:59:30 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
In-Reply-To: <YxcmOAfo0QXR9HjXuoSz4K5WbHbhkJnEJZRnGD3rBU5n2ikl6FLu0iIDNRlxWTxHc5U7mzTSMmYEd-77jAUPwxjKSyLne0Dr1mOAxTyEtXA=@proton.me>
References: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
 <8353995D-19AC-4F80-B589-0EA9ECB52EA4@yahoo.com>
 <YxcmOAfo0QXR9HjXuoSz4K5WbHbhkJnEJZRnGD3rBU5n2ikl6FLu0iIDNRlxWTxHc5U7mzTSMmYEd-77jAUPwxjKSyLne0Dr1mOAxTyEtXA=@proton.me>
Message-ID: <01D12862-98A8-499E-8F63-65B8243BDD40@yahoo.com>

You're doing fine with list etiquette. Reply-All works best. 

The file you opened is a backup from October 28, 2025. How do I know this? Check out <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_What_are_all_these_.gnucash_and_.log_files_filling_up_my_directory.3F> where you'll see that a file that has that long number embedded in it is actually a dated backup copy. 

Find the one in your folder that *doesn't* have those numbers, and you'll find your current details. 

David T. 

On May 15, 2026 5:35:48 PM GMT+05:30, Stephen Camidge <scamidge at proton.me> wrote:
>First, I am very rusty on using this list. I mostly read it but forget. I receive the digest. Do I reply to you or only to gnucash-user at gnucash.org ? When I tried yesterday a moderator had to approve it as I am not a member. But I receive the message digest, so I am confused.
>
>To answer your questions. I am not a hardware person, so I cannot remove the internal Linux drive and test it. I backup daily the folder where I store the datafile to a flash drive automatically using grsynch. I did it twice yesterday and also back it up to an external Linux drive. The pop and power loss happened during the second drive backup, so that one is incomplete. The second flash drive was done first and completed.
>
>So I copied the flash drive folder to my Mac and double-clicked the Camidge Accounting GNU Cash.gnucash.20251028182223.gnucash (not a log file). Data was there but incomplete.
>
>Thank you
>
>On Friday, May 15th, 2026 at 6:48 AM, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, this is not really a "Linux to Max problem" so much as "I can't locate my most recent data file" problem.
>>
>> I'd start by double checking that you actually have the file you were using on the Linux box.
>>
>> When you say that you moved backup data to an old Mac, how did you do that? Did you pull the hard drive from the dead machine and connect it to the Mac? Or was it an actual backup that you made? If this, when was that backup made?
>>
>> David T.
>>
>> On May 15, 2026 2:33:02 AM GMT+05:30, Stephen Camidge via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I have been using the lastest version of GnuCash on Zorin 18.5 (Linux). That machine today made a loud pop and is dead until I can get it fixed.
>>>
>>> I moved backup data to an old Mac. When I open it with GnuCash for Mac 5.14-1, it loads the data until January even though it is today's backup.
>>>
>>> What do I need to do to fix it?
>>>
>>> Thank you
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From lists at dynpna.de  Fri May 15 08:29:53 2026
From: lists at dynpna.de (Peter Nacken)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 14:29:53 +0200
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
In-Reply-To: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
References: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
Message-ID: <8712c925-5303-4fef-b208-8a06442a31bd@dynpna.de>

Hi

Am 14.05.26 um 23:03 schrieb Stephen Camidge via gnucash-user:
> I have been using the lastest version of GnuCash on Zorin 18.5 (Linux). That machine today made a loud pop and is dead until I can get it fixed.
>
> I moved backup data to an old Mac. When I open it with GnuCash for Mac 5.14-1, it loads the data until January even though it is today's backup.
>
> What do I need to do to fix it?
>
> Thank you
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I would try to find out what happen on the linux maschine. May simulate 
it on a different linux maschine / linux vm. You can copy the data from 
one linux to the test maschine via rsync. And I agree to David this 
sounds like a where ist the correct data problem.
 ?Best regards Peter

From stepbystepfarm at comcast.net  Fri May 15 09:37:26 2026
From: stepbystepfarm at comcast.net (Michael or Penny Novack)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 09:37:26 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
In-Reply-To: <8353995D-19AC-4F80-B589-0EA9ECB52EA4@yahoo.com>
References: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
 <8353995D-19AC-4F80-B589-0EA9ECB52EA4@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <de8c193b-95b5-4a24-96ee-d3d48c8d2b3e@comcast.net>

On 5/15/2026 6:48 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> Well, this is not really a "Linux to Max problem" so much as "I can't locate my most recent data file" problem.
>
Back in my working days, my biggest coup following a restoration from a 
wrong backup disaster, was devising a system so "never again".

STRONG SUGGESTION --- When you make a backup, incorporate the Julian 
date in the file name. Example "backupbooksyyyymmdd.gnucash". Then you 
will KNOW which backup is correct. Of course not a suggestion just for 
gnucash backups, but all.

Michael D Novack


From maf at chilwell.net  Fri May 15 11:03:30 2026
From: maf at chilwell.net (Maf. King)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 16:03:30 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
In-Reply-To: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
References: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
Message-ID: <9618309.CDJkKcVGEf@janus>

On Thursday, 14 May 2026 22:03:02 BST Stephen Camidge via gnucash-user wrote:
> I have been using the lastest version of GnuCash on Zorin 18.5 (Linux). That
> machine today made a loud pop and is dead until I can get it fixed.
> 
> I moved backup data to an old Mac. When I open it with GnuCash for Mac
> 5.14-1, it loads the data until January even though it is today's backup.
> 
> What do I need to do to fix it?
> 
> Thank you

You may not be aware - but on a MAC, clicking on a data file does not open it.  
You need to explicitly use the menu File -> Open and find the data file.  

For arcane reasons, GC on MAC *always* reopens the last-used file (assuming it 
can find it), not the one you clicked on.

HTH,
Maf. 




From scamidge at proton.me  Fri May 15 08:05:48 2026
From: scamidge at proton.me (Stephen Camidge)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 12:05:48 +0000
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
In-Reply-To: <8353995D-19AC-4F80-B589-0EA9ECB52EA4@yahoo.com>
References: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
 <8353995D-19AC-4F80-B589-0EA9ECB52EA4@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <YxcmOAfo0QXR9HjXuoSz4K5WbHbhkJnEJZRnGD3rBU5n2ikl6FLu0iIDNRlxWTxHc5U7mzTSMmYEd-77jAUPwxjKSyLne0Dr1mOAxTyEtXA=@proton.me>

First, I am very rusty on using this list. I mostly read it but forget. I receive the digest. Do I reply to you or only to gnucash-user at gnucash.org ? When I tried yesterday a moderator had to approve it as I am not a member. But I receive the message digest, so I am confused.

To answer your questions. I am not a hardware person, so I cannot remove the internal Linux drive and test it. I backup daily the folder where I store the datafile to a flash drive automatically using grsynch. I did it twice yesterday and also back it up to an external Linux drive. The pop and power loss happened during the second drive backup, so that one is incomplete. The second flash drive was done first and completed.

So I copied the flash drive folder to my Mac and double-clicked the Camidge Accounting GNU Cash.gnucash.20251028182223.gnucash (not a log file). Data was there but incomplete.

Thank you

On Friday, May 15th, 2026 at 6:48 AM, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well, this is not really a "Linux to Max problem" so much as "I can't locate my most recent data file" problem.
>
> I'd start by double checking that you actually have the file you were using on the Linux box.
>
> When you say that you moved backup data to an old Mac, how did you do that? Did you pull the hard drive from the dead machine and connect it to the Mac? Or was it an actual backup that you made? If this, when was that backup made?
>
> David T.
>
> On May 15, 2026 2:33:02 AM GMT+05:30, Stephen Camidge via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>
>> I have been using the lastest version of GnuCash on Zorin 18.5 (Linux). That machine today made a loud pop and is dead until I can get it fixed.
>>
>> I moved backup data to an old Mac. When I open it with GnuCash for Mac 5.14-1, it loads the data until January even though it is today's backup.
>>
>> What do I need to do to fix it?
>>
>> Thank you
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> gnucash-user mailing list
>>
>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>>
>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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From scamidge at proton.me  Fri May 15 09:09:47 2026
From: scamidge at proton.me (Stephen Camidge)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 13:09:47 +0000
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
In-Reply-To: <01D12862-98A8-499E-8F63-65B8243BDD40@yahoo.com>
References: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
 <8353995D-19AC-4F80-B589-0EA9ECB52EA4@yahoo.com>
 <YxcmOAfo0QXR9HjXuoSz4K5WbHbhkJnEJZRnGD3rBU5n2ikl6FLu0iIDNRlxWTxHc5U7mzTSMmYEd-77jAUPwxjKSyLne0Dr1mOAxTyEtXA=@proton.me>
 <01D12862-98A8-499E-8F63-65B8243BDD40@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1WwcTcT7iTdx3iJsN2iaLqRqYNAn-humH-w9mTb5ByimRNZH-oor71H26siYx_wUuKbD2xZNv1-OcbK7rbMm3tlcoq-2OQiZ3IUo57qiOsI=@proton.me>

Clearly I am doing several things wrong. Probably since I switched from Manjaro to Zorin in about October.

I have no un-numbered copy in my folders on either backup device. I do not yet know if the Linux drive is salvageable. So I agree that seems to be where to look, but I am unlikely to find it there. I will likely see only what the backup shows. But I guess there must be something somewhere on the Linux drive (and maybe the backup?) since it opens properly there. If it isn't fried.

I had been keeping only the last several files (I thought), but there is a gap from October 2025 to April 2026.

The banks are reconciled to January 1st 2026 and projected transactions entered to end of April.

It seems I am subscribed to the list using [<gnucash-user-request_at_gnucash.org_outcast-foam-ogle at duck.com>](mailto:gnucash-user-request_at_gnucash.org_outcast-foam-ogle at duck.com) so scamidge at proton.me is not a member.

On Friday, May 15th, 2026 at 8:29 AM, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> You're doing fine with list etiquette. Reply-All works best.
>
> The file you opened is a backup from October 28, 2025. How do I know this? Check out <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_What_are_all_these_.gnucash_and_.log_files_filling_up_my_directory.3F> where you'll see that a file that has that long number embedded in it is actually a dated backup copy.
>
> Find the one in your folder that *doesn't* have those numbers, and you'll find your current details.
>
> David T.
>
> On May 15, 2026 5:35:48 PM GMT+05:30, Stephen Camidge <scamidge at proton.me> wrote:
>
>> First, I am very rusty on using this list. I mostly read it but forget. I receive the digest. Do I reply to you or only to gnucash-user at gnucash.org ? When I tried yesterday a moderator had to approve it as I am not a member. But I receive the message digest, so I am confused.
>>
>> To answer your questions. I am not a hardware person, so I cannot remove the internal Linux drive and test it. I backup daily the folder where I store the datafile to a flash drive automatically using grsynch. I did it twice yesterday and also back it up to an external Linux drive. The pop and power loss happened during the second drive backup, so that one is incomplete. The second flash drive was done first and completed.
>>
>> So I copied the flash drive folder to my Mac and double-clicked the Camidge Accounting GNU Cash.gnucash.20251028182223.gnucash (not a log file). Data was there but incomplete.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Friday, May 15th, 2026 at 6:48 AM, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, this is not really a "Linux to Max problem" so much as "I can't locate my most recent data file" problem.
>>>
>>> I'd start by double checking that you actually have the file you were using on the Linux box.
>>>
>>> When you say that you moved backup data to an old Mac, how did you do that? Did you pull the hard drive from the dead machine and connect it to the Mac? Or was it an actual backup that you made? If this, when was that backup made?
>>>
>>> David T.
>>>
>>> On May 15, 2026 2:33:02 AM GMT+05:30, Stephen Camidge via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been using the lastest version of GnuCash on Zorin 18.5 (Linux). That machine today made a loud pop and is dead until I can get it fixed.
>>>>
>>>> I moved backup data to an old Mac. When I open it with GnuCash for Mac 5.14-1, it loads the data until January even though it is today's backup.
>>>>
>>>> What do I need to do to fix it?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> gnucash-user mailing list
>>>>
>>>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>>>>
>>>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
>>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>>>>
>>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

From scamidge at proton.me  Fri May 15 11:22:13 2026
From: scamidge at proton.me (Stephen Camidge)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 15:22:13 +0000
Subject: [GNC] Linux to Mac problem
In-Reply-To: <9618309.CDJkKcVGEf@janus>
References: <NlieXzzCBYlGKc4MIMdnrIw45anHFDqCv-kGgrCNBGiPR-KFPyJVWQnApvRBhe0pBDMY0LG_rys5gGd6Y2FBmZLJ04UV3KQFkQOHP3ff0Wc=@proton.me>
 <9618309.CDJkKcVGEf@janus>
Message-ID: <-kfVIfxfB__NPBlDj7W79fncmcVXR1Sbj0bAuOsWQDbJr3q2u70Egrf6nejY9kkwqUOciKmw44-EJdGKOrao9XCRIjf64Ol1Uo6tnIx_sPk=@proton.me>

I forget so much about the Mac! I now like Linux.

Success. I had to point to the temporary directory. It was pointing to an original directory. I saved to a new name. A new log was created with the new name. 

Thank you very much!!!

Can I through out the old files now?

Steve 



On Friday, May 15th, 2026 at 11:03 AM, Maf. King <maf at chilwell.net> wrote:

> On Thursday, 14 May 2026 22:03:02 BST Stephen Camidge via gnucash-user wrote:
> > I have been using the lastest version of GnuCash on Zorin 18.5 (Linux). That
> > machine today made a loud pop and is dead until I can get it fixed.
> >
> > I moved backup data to an old Mac. When I open it with GnuCash for Mac
> > 5.14-1, it loads the data until January even though it is today's backup.
> >
> > What do I need to do to fix it?
> >
> > Thank you
> 
> You may not be aware - but on a MAC, clicking on a data file does not open it.
> You need to explicitly use the menu File -> Open and find the data file.
> 
> For arcane reasons, GC on MAC *always* reopens the last-used file (assuming it
> can find it), not the one you clicked on.
> 
> HTH,
> Maf.
> 
> 
> 
> 

From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Sat May 16 23:21:45 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2026 20:21:45 -0700
Subject: [GNC] =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
 =?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
Message-ID: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I wanted to share that Cashdera v1.0.0 is now available as the first 
stable public release.

Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a 
GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides 
dashboards, search, reporting, money-flow views, budget vs actual, net 
worth, year-over-year comparison, and basic anomaly detection.

The original GnuCash book is not modified.

Based on feedback from GnuCash users, Cashdera is no longer 
Windows-only. The v1.0.0 release is now available for:

  * Windows
  * macOS
  * Linux

v1.0.0 is the first stable tag promoted from the 0.2.0 public beta 
baseline. No intentional breaking API or UX changes were introduced in 
the promotion step.

Notable changes in v1.0.0 include:

  * Dashboard now shows separate counters for Transactions and Postings.
  * Dashboard now separates Overview and Money Flow into tabs; Money
    Flow loads on demand.
  * Categories page now includes account-type tabs: Expenses, Income,
    Assets, Liabilities, and Equity.
  * After successful import or re-import, the app automatically switches
    to the imported book.
  * Recent imports now includes a Delete action to remove Cashdera local
    import data and cache.
  * Analytics aggregation now uses exact decimal arithmetic to avoid
    cumulative rounding errors across large transaction sets.
  * React ErrorBoundary added to prevent unhandled render crashes from
    showing a blank screen.
  * Account count now excludes the technical Root Account container.
  * Date Range starts inactive on app launch and only filters analytics
    after the user chooses a range.
  * Categories hierarchy behavior has been improved with better
    expand/select logic and clearer rollups.
  * XML namespace parsing for account entities was fixed to prevent
    phantom account rows during import.
  * Re-import result messages are now tied to the active background job
    to avoid stale completion messages.
  * Dashboard avoids false empty states when postings exist but
    transaction headers are unavailable.

Privacy / data handling:

  * No cloud upload
  * No server sync
  * No account required
  * No telemetry
  * Data is processed locally
  * The original GnuCash file remains the source of truth
  * Deleting an import removes only Cashdera local data; the original
    |.gnucash|file is not modified or deleted

Release:

https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.0.0


Documentation / screenshots:

https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md


If anyone tries it with a real-world GnuCash book, practical feedback is 
welcome, especially around import correctness, report accuracy, 
performance on larger books, and missing analytics views.

Regards,
Ars


From jpschewe at mtu.net  Sat May 16 23:29:32 2026
From: jpschewe at mtu.net (Jon Schewe)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2026 22:29:32 -0500
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
 =?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>

I see the binary release, where is the source code?

On Sat, 2026-05-16 at 20:21 -0700, cashdera wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I wanted to share that Cashdera v1.0.0 is now available as the first 
> stable public release.
> 
> Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a 
> GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides 
> dashboards, search, reporting, money-flow views, budget vs actual,
> net 
> worth, year-over-year comparison, and basic anomaly detection.
> 
> The original GnuCash book is not modified.
> 
> Based on feedback from GnuCash users, Cashdera is no longer 
> Windows-only. The v1.0.0 release is now available for:
> 
> ? * Windows
> ? * macOS
> ? * Linux
> 
> v1.0.0 is the first stable tag promoted from the 0.2.0 public beta 
> baseline. No intentional breaking API or UX changes were introduced
> in 
> the promotion step.
> 
> Notable changes in v1.0.0 include:
> 
> ? * Dashboard now shows separate counters for Transactions and
> Postings.
> ? * Dashboard now separates Overview and Money Flow into tabs; Money
> ??? Flow loads on demand.
> ? * Categories page now includes account-type tabs: Expenses, Income,
> ??? Assets, Liabilities, and Equity.
> ? * After successful import or re-import, the app automatically
> switches
> ??? to the imported book.
> ? * Recent imports now includes a Delete action to remove Cashdera
> local
> ??? import data and cache.
> ? * Analytics aggregation now uses exact decimal arithmetic to avoid
> ??? cumulative rounding errors across large transaction sets.
> ? * React ErrorBoundary added to prevent unhandled render crashes
> from
> ??? showing a blank screen.
> ? * Account count now excludes the technical Root Account container.
> ? * Date Range starts inactive on app launch and only filters
> analytics
> ??? after the user chooses a range.
> ? * Categories hierarchy behavior has been improved with better
> ??? expand/select logic and clearer rollups.
> ? * XML namespace parsing for account entities was fixed to prevent
> ??? phantom account rows during import.
> ? * Re-import result messages are now tied to the active background
> job
> ??? to avoid stale completion messages.
> ? * Dashboard avoids false empty states when postings exist but
> ??? transaction headers are unavailable.
> 
> Privacy / data handling:
> 
> ? * No cloud upload
> ? * No server sync
> ? * No account required
> ? * No telemetry
> ? * Data is processed locally
> ? * The original GnuCash file remains the source of truth
> ? * Deleting an import removes only Cashdera local data; the original
> ??? |.gnucash|file is not modified or deleted
> 
> Release:
> 
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.0.0
> 
> 
> Documentation / screenshots:
> 
> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md
> 
> 
> If anyone tries it with a real-world GnuCash book, practical feedback
> is 
> welcome, especially around import correctness, report accuracy, 
> performance on larger books, and missing analytics views.
> 
> Regards,
> Ars
> 
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Sun May 17 01:08:02 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2026 22:08:02 -0700
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
 =?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
 <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
Message-ID: <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>

The source code is not published at this time.

Cashdera is released as a free-to-use binary application, not as a FOSS 
project. I understand that this distinction matters in the GnuCash 
community.

If source availability is a requirement for you to evaluate or run the 
software, that is completely reasonable.

Regards,
Ars


On 5/16/2026 8:29 PM, Jon Schewe wrote:
> I see the binary release, where is the source code?
>
> On Sat, 2026-05-16 at 20:21 -0700, cashdera wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I wanted to share that Cashdera v1.0.0 is now available as the first
>> stable public release.
>>
>> Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a
>> GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides
>> dashboards, search, reporting, money-flow views, budget vs actual, net
>> worth, year-over-year comparison, and basic anomaly detection.
>>
>> The original GnuCash book is not modified.
>>
>> Based on feedback from GnuCash users, Cashdera is no longer
>> Windows-only. The v1.0.0 release is now available for:
>>
>> ? * Windows
>> ? * macOS
>> ? * Linux
>>
>> v1.0.0 is the first stable tag promoted from the 0.2.0 public beta
>> baseline. No intentional breaking API or UX changes were introduced in
>> the promotion step.
>>
>> Notable changes in v1.0.0 include:
>>
>> ? * Dashboard now shows separate counters for Transactions and Postings.
>> ? * Dashboard now separates Overview and Money Flow into tabs; Money
>> ??? Flow loads on demand.
>> ? * Categories page now includes account-type tabs: Expenses, Income,
>> ??? Assets, Liabilities, and Equity.
>> ? * After successful import or re-import, the app automatically switches
>> ??? to the imported book.
>> ? * Recent imports now includes a Delete action to remove Cashdera local
>> ??? import data and cache.
>> ? * Analytics aggregation now uses exact decimal arithmetic to avoid
>> ??? cumulative rounding errors across large transaction sets.
>> ? * React ErrorBoundary added to prevent unhandled render crashes from
>> ??? showing a blank screen.
>> ? * Account count now excludes the technical Root Account container.
>> ? * Date Range starts inactive on app launch and only filters analytics
>> ??? after the user chooses a range.
>> ? * Categories hierarchy behavior has been improved with better
>> ??? expand/select logic and clearer rollups.
>> ? * XML namespace parsing for account entities was fixed to prevent
>> ??? phantom account rows during import.
>> ? * Re-import result messages are now tied to the active background job
>> ??? to avoid stale completion messages.
>> ? * Dashboard avoids false empty states when postings exist but
>> ??? transaction headers are unavailable.
>>
>> Privacy / data handling:
>>
>> ? * No cloud upload
>> ? * No server sync
>> ? * No account required
>> ? * No telemetry
>> ? * Data is processed locally
>> ? * The original GnuCash file remains the source of truth
>> ? * Deleting an import removes only Cashdera local data; the original
>> ??? |.gnucash|file is not modified or deleted
>>
>> Release:
>>
>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.0.0
>>
>>
>> Documentation / screenshots:
>>
>> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md
>>
>>
>> If anyone tries it with a real-world GnuCash book, practical feedback is
>> welcome, especially around import correctness, report accuracy,
>> performance on larger books, and missing analytics views.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ars
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> gnucash-user mailing list
>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
>> -----
>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>

From balivisits at gmail.com  Sun May 17 01:36:32 2026
From: balivisits at gmail.com (Bali Visits)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2026 13:36:32 +0800
Subject: [GNC] 
	=?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
	=?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
 <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
 <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOMgiF_SzT6A9+G8MyU35b3d7TDV_mv01oRYjPd5xQVBjR7jrg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ars,

I have your latest Windows release (v1.0.0) and tried exporting accounts
today.  I selected a target directory for export, but the exported CSV file
didn't arrive as expected.  I finally found it in my Download directory.
Is this a bug, or is it a glitch with my Windows 11 setup?  Apart from
that, I am enjoying Cashdera.

*Kim Wood*
*Mobile:* +61 401 117-997
*Email*: kimley.wood at gmail.com

On Sun, 17 May 2026, 13:10 cashdera, <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The source code is not published at this time.
>
> Cashdera is released as a free-to-use binary application, not as a FOSS
> project. I understand that this distinction matters in the GnuCash
> community.
>
> If source availability is a requirement for you to evaluate or run the
> software, that is completely reasonable.
>
> Regards,
> Ars
>
>
> On 5/16/2026 8:29 PM, Jon Schewe wrote:
> > I see the binary release, where is the source code?
> >
> > On Sat, 2026-05-16 at 20:21 -0700, cashdera wrote:
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I wanted to share that Cashdera v1.0.0 is now available as the first
> >> stable public release.
> >>
> >> Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a
> >> GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides
> >> dashboards, search, reporting, money-flow views, budget vs actual, net
> >> worth, year-over-year comparison, and basic anomaly detection.
> >>
> >> The original GnuCash book is not modified.
> >>
> >> Based on feedback from GnuCash users, Cashdera is no longer
> >> Windows-only. The v1.0.0 release is now available for:
> >>
> >>   * Windows
> >>   * macOS
> >>   * Linux
> >>
> >> v1.0.0 is the first stable tag promoted from the 0.2.0 public beta
> >> baseline. No intentional breaking API or UX changes were introduced in
> >> the promotion step.
> >>
> >> Notable changes in v1.0.0 include:
> >>
> >>   * Dashboard now shows separate counters for Transactions and Postings.
> >>   * Dashboard now separates Overview and Money Flow into tabs; Money
> >>     Flow loads on demand.
> >>   * Categories page now includes account-type tabs: Expenses, Income,
> >>     Assets, Liabilities, and Equity.
> >>   * After successful import or re-import, the app automatically switches
> >>     to the imported book.
> >>   * Recent imports now includes a Delete action to remove Cashdera local
> >>     import data and cache.
> >>   * Analytics aggregation now uses exact decimal arithmetic to avoid
> >>     cumulative rounding errors across large transaction sets.
> >>   * React ErrorBoundary added to prevent unhandled render crashes from
> >>     showing a blank screen.
> >>   * Account count now excludes the technical Root Account container.
> >>   * Date Range starts inactive on app launch and only filters analytics
> >>     after the user chooses a range.
> >>   * Categories hierarchy behavior has been improved with better
> >>     expand/select logic and clearer rollups.
> >>   * XML namespace parsing for account entities was fixed to prevent
> >>     phantom account rows during import.
> >>   * Re-import result messages are now tied to the active background job
> >>     to avoid stale completion messages.
> >>   * Dashboard avoids false empty states when postings exist but
> >>     transaction headers are unavailable.
> >>
> >> Privacy / data handling:
> >>
> >>   * No cloud upload
> >>   * No server sync
> >>   * No account required
> >>   * No telemetry
> >>   * Data is processed locally
> >>   * The original GnuCash file remains the source of truth
> >>   * Deleting an import removes only Cashdera local data; the original
> >>     |.gnucash|file is not modified or deleted
> >>
> >> Release:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.0.0
> >>
> >>
> >> Documentation / screenshots:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md
> >>
> >>
> >> If anyone tries it with a real-world GnuCash book, practical feedback is
> >> welcome, especially around import correctness, report accuracy,
> >> performance on larger books, and missing analytics views.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ars
> >>
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Sun May 17 02:16:18 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2026 23:16:18 -0700
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
 =?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <CAOMgiF_SzT6A9+G8MyU35b3d7TDV_mv01oRYjPd5xQVBjR7jrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
 <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
 <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>
 <CAOMgiF_SzT6A9+G8MyU35b3d7TDV_mv01oRYjPd5xQVBjR7jrg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ac7bd605-ad57-4ecc-bd7d-270efad10b8a@gmail.com>

Hello Kim,

Thank you for the kind words. I?m glad to hear that you are enjoying 
Cashdera.

Yes, this is a real bug. At the moment, the export file is being written 
to the Downloads directory by default, even when a different target 
directory is selected.

This is not a Windows 11 issue on your side.

I will fix this in the next release so the export uses the directory 
selected by the user.

Thank you for reporting it.

Regards,
Ars


On 5/16/2026 10:36 PM, Bali Visits wrote:
> Hello Ars,
>
> I have your latest Windows release (v1.0.0) and tried exporting 
> accounts today.? I selected a target directory for export, but the 
> exported CSV file didn't arrive as expected.? I finally found it in my 
> Download directory.? Is this a bug, or is it a glitch with my Windows 
> 11 setup?? Apart from that, I am enjoying Cashdera.
>
> *Kim Wood*
> *Mobile:* +61 401 117-997
> *Email*: kimley.wood at gmail.com
>
> On Sun, 17 May 2026, 13:10 cashdera, <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     The source code is not published at this time.
>
>     Cashdera is released as a free-to-use binary application, not as a
>     FOSS
>     project. I understand that this distinction matters in the GnuCash
>     community.
>
>     If source availability is a requirement for you to evaluate or run
>     the
>     software, that is completely reasonable.
>
>     Regards,
>     Ars
>
>
>     On 5/16/2026 8:29 PM, Jon Schewe wrote:
>     > I see the binary release, where is the source code?
>     >
>     > On Sat, 2026-05-16 at 20:21 -0700, cashdera wrote:
>     >> Hi everyone,
>     >>
>     >> I wanted to share that Cashdera v1.0.0 is now available as the
>     first
>     >> stable public release.
>     >>
>     >> Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a
>     >> GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides
>     >> dashboards, search, reporting, money-flow views, budget vs
>     actual, net
>     >> worth, year-over-year comparison, and basic anomaly detection.
>     >>
>     >> The original GnuCash book is not modified.
>     >>
>     >> Based on feedback from GnuCash users, Cashdera is no longer
>     >> Windows-only. The v1.0.0 release is now available for:
>     >>
>     >> ? * Windows
>     >> ? * macOS
>     >> ? * Linux
>     >>
>     >> v1.0.0 is the first stable tag promoted from the 0.2.0 public beta
>     >> baseline. No intentional breaking API or UX changes were
>     introduced in
>     >> the promotion step.
>     >>
>     >> Notable changes in v1.0.0 include:
>     >>
>     >> ? * Dashboard now shows separate counters for Transactions and
>     Postings.
>     >> ? * Dashboard now separates Overview and Money Flow into tabs;
>     Money
>     >> ??? Flow loads on demand.
>     >> ? * Categories page now includes account-type tabs: Expenses,
>     Income,
>     >> ??? Assets, Liabilities, and Equity.
>     >> ? * After successful import or re-import, the app automatically
>     switches
>     >> ??? to the imported book.
>     >> ? * Recent imports now includes a Delete action to remove
>     Cashdera local
>     >> ??? import data and cache.
>     >> ? * Analytics aggregation now uses exact decimal arithmetic to
>     avoid
>     >> ??? cumulative rounding errors across large transaction sets.
>     >> ? * React ErrorBoundary added to prevent unhandled render
>     crashes from
>     >> ??? showing a blank screen.
>     >> ? * Account count now excludes the technical Root Account
>     container.
>     >> ? * Date Range starts inactive on app launch and only filters
>     analytics
>     >> ??? after the user chooses a range.
>     >> ? * Categories hierarchy behavior has been improved with better
>     >> ??? expand/select logic and clearer rollups.
>     >> ? * XML namespace parsing for account entities was fixed to prevent
>     >> ??? phantom account rows during import.
>     >> ? * Re-import result messages are now tied to the active
>     background job
>     >> ??? to avoid stale completion messages.
>     >> ? * Dashboard avoids false empty states when postings exist but
>     >> ??? transaction headers are unavailable.
>     >>
>     >> Privacy / data handling:
>     >>
>     >> ? * No cloud upload
>     >> ? * No server sync
>     >> ? * No account required
>     >> ? * No telemetry
>     >> ? * Data is processed locally
>     >> ? * The original GnuCash file remains the source of truth
>     >> ? * Deleting an import removes only Cashdera local data; the
>     original
>     >> ??? |.gnucash|file is not modified or deleted
>     >>
>     >> Release:
>     >>
>     >> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.0.0
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Documentation / screenshots:
>     >>
>     >> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> If anyone tries it with a real-world GnuCash book, practical
>     feedback is
>     >> welcome, especially around import correctness, report accuracy,
>     >> performance on larger books, and missing analytics views.
>     >>
>     >> Regards,
>     >> Ars
>     >>
>     >> _______________________________________________
>     >> gnucash-user mailing list
>     >> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>     >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
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>     >
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From gnucash_2022 at michaelaltfield.net  Mon May 18 11:35:13 2026
From: gnucash_2022 at michaelaltfield.net (gnucash_2022 at michaelaltfield.net)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 15:35:13 +0000
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
Message-ID: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>

How can I get the total number of transactions in a GNU Cash DB for a given time period?

I need to determine the total number of transaction entries in my GNU Cash DB for the last accounting year. I don't want to manually count them.

I couldn't find a built-in GNU Cash report that includes the count of the transactions for the selected accounts for the selected time range.

Is there some report (or python script) that I can use to sum the total number of transactions for all accounts for a given time range in GNU Cash?

From stan+gc at fastmail.fm  Mon May 18 11:55:12 2026
From: stan+gc at fastmail.fm (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 08:55:12 -0700
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
Message-ID: <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>

On 2026-05-18 08:35, gnucash_2022 at michaelaltfield.net wrote:
> How can I get the total number of transactions in a GNU Cash DB for a given time period?
> 
> I need to determine the total number of transaction entries in my GNU Cash DB for the last accounting year. I don't want to manually count them.
> 
> I couldn't find a built-in GNU Cash report that includes the count of the transactions for the selected accounts for the selected time range.
> 
> Is there some report (or python script) that I can use to sum the total number of transactions for all accounts for a given time range in GNU Cash?
File?? Export?? Export Transactions to CSV

The wizard that opens says there will be one row for each transaction,
so all you have to do is open the exported file and look at the number
of the last row used.

It also says "While a transaction may have splits in several of the
selected accounts it will only be exported once" so you don't have to
worry about double counting.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com



From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Mon May 18 11:55:35 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 08:55:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
Message-ID: <643313488.594037.1779119735939@connect.xfinity.com>

There are many ways to do this. I am going to provide the path that I would take.

Step 1: I would filter the register to the dates that I want. "Filter by" is found under the view menu.

Step 2: Export the register. This is found under "File -> Export -> Export Active Register to CSV"

Step 3: Count the unique transaction IDs. A spreadsheet formula that would work is something like =COUNTA(UNIQUE(B2:BXXX)) where XXX is the end of the range. If you go over on the range, meaning XXX is too large, then you'll pick up a blank line that is unique.

> On 05/18/2026 8:35 AM PDT gnucash_2022 at michaelaltfield.net wrote:
> 
>  
> How can I get the total number of transactions in a GNU Cash DB for a given time period?
> 
> I need to determine the total number of transaction entries in my GNU Cash DB for the last accounting year. I don't want to manually count them.
> 
> I couldn't find a built-in GNU Cash report that includes the count of the transactions for the selected accounts for the selected time range.
> 
> Is there some report (or python script) that I can use to sum the total number of transactions for all accounts for a given time range in GNU Cash?
> _______________________________________________
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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Mon May 18 12:14:21 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 09:14:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
 <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>

The wording is: "There will be multiple rows for each transaction with each row representing one split."

The only time a "transaction" appears on a single line, and this term "transaction" is a bit of a challenge here, is when the "transaction" is only a memo entry [zero value and only one account, and thus the difficulty with the word "transaction," but the memo entries do export].

Since there is one line for each split, count the unique transaction IDs for the transaction count.

> On 05/18/2026 8:55 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <stan+gc at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> File?? Export?? Export Transactions to CSV
> 
> The wizard that opens says there will be one row for each transaction,
> so all you have to do is open the exported file and look at the number
> of the last row used.
> 
> It also says "While a transaction may have splits in several of the
> selected accounts it will only be exported once" so you don't have to
> worry about double counting.
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
>

From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Mon May 18 12:31:22 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 22:01:22 +0530
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
 <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
 <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <68DF7AE3-F72C-4CFB-AD4F-7509F5AFFA86@yahoo.com>

Personally, I would save the file in sqlite format and use a database platform to see how many rows are present in the appropriate table. But I'm an old database guy. 

David T. 

On May 18, 2026 9:44:21 PM GMT+05:30, Patrick James via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>The wording is: "There will be multiple rows for each transaction with each row representing one split."
>
>The only time a "transaction" appears on a single line, and this term "transaction" is a bit of a challenge here, is when the "transaction" is only a memo entry [zero value and only one account, and thus the difficulty with the word "transaction," but the memo entries do export].
>
>Since there is one line for each split, count the unique transaction IDs for the transaction count.
>
>> On 05/18/2026 8:55 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <stan+gc at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> 
>> File?? Export?? Export Transactions to CSV
>> 
>> The wizard that opens says there will be one row for each transaction,
>> so all you have to do is open the exported file and look at the number
>> of the last row used.
>> 
>> It also says "While a transaction may have splits in several of the
>> selected accounts it will only be exported once" so you don't have to
>> worry about double counting.
>> 
>> Stan Brown
>> Tehachapi, CA, USA
>> https://BrownMath.com
>>
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From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Mon May 18 12:31:22 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 22:01:22 +0530
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
 <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
 <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <68DF7AE3-F72C-4CFB-AD4F-7509F5AFFA86@yahoo.com>

Personally, I would save the file in sqlite format and use a database platform to see how many rows are present in the appropriate table. But I'm an old database guy. 

David T. 

On May 18, 2026 9:44:21 PM GMT+05:30, Patrick James via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>The wording is: "There will be multiple rows for each transaction with each row representing one split."
>
>The only time a "transaction" appears on a single line, and this term "transaction" is a bit of a challenge here, is when the "transaction" is only a memo entry [zero value and only one account, and thus the difficulty with the word "transaction," but the memo entries do export].
>
>Since there is one line for each split, count the unique transaction IDs for the transaction count.
>
>> On 05/18/2026 8:55 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <stan+gc at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> 
>> File?? Export?? Export Transactions to CSV
>> 
>> The wizard that opens says there will be one row for each transaction,
>> so all you have to do is open the exported file and look at the number
>> of the last row used.
>> 
>> It also says "While a transaction may have splits in several of the
>> selected accounts it will only be exported once" so you don't have to
>> worry about double counting.
>> 
>> Stan Brown
>> Tehachapi, CA, USA
>> https://BrownMath.com
>>
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From cam at ellisonet.ca  Mon May 18 12:56:08 2026
From: cam at ellisonet.ca (Cam Ellison)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 09:56:08 -0700
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <68DF7AE3-F72C-4CFB-AD4F-7509F5AFFA86@yahoo.com>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
 <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
 <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
 <68DF7AE3-F72C-4CFB-AD4F-7509F5AFFA86@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b7843a65-bfc4-4b9c-98a3-1584a0862f81@ellisonet.ca>

On 2026-05-18 09:31, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> Personally, I would save the file in sqlite format and use a database platform to see how many rows are present in the appropriate table. But I'm an old database guy.
>
What he said.

There's something aesthetically pleasing about a single number emerging 
from a few lines of code.

Cheers

Cam



From michael at fross.org  Mon May 18 13:05:45 2026
From: michael at fross.org (Fross, Michael)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 12:05:45 -0500
Subject: [GNC] 
	=?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
	=?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <ac7bd605-ad57-4ecc-bd7d-270efad10b8a@gmail.com>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
 <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
 <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>
 <CAOMgiF_SzT6A9+G8MyU35b3d7TDV_mv01oRYjPd5xQVBjR7jrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <ac7bd605-ad57-4ecc-bd7d-270efad10b8a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMD2DftAm6e9-9yh=H1xzrEQTWTWe_Ma2y0Cb+=758MkXBO_yw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ars,  your readme says  "Open Cashdera ? no sign-in, no setup wizard"
but on windows, I'm immediately presented with a setup wizard.

On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 1:18?AM cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Kim,
>
> Thank you for the kind words. I?m glad to hear that you are enjoying
> Cashdera.
>
> Yes, this is a real bug. At the moment, the export file is being written
> to the Downloads directory by default, even when a different target
> directory is selected.
>
> This is not a Windows 11 issue on your side.
>
> I will fix this in the next release so the export uses the directory
> selected by the user.
>
> Thank you for reporting it.
>
> Regards,
> Ars
>
>
> On 5/16/2026 10:36 PM, Bali Visits wrote:
> > Hello Ars,
> >
> > I have your latest Windows release (v1.0.0) and tried exporting
> > accounts today.  I selected a target directory for export, but the
> > exported CSV file didn't arrive as expected.  I finally found it in my
> > Download directory.  Is this a bug, or is it a glitch with my Windows
> > 11 setup?  Apart from that, I am enjoying Cashdera.
> >
> > *Kim Wood*
> > *Mobile:* +61 401 117-997
> > *Email*: kimley.wood at gmail.com
> >
> > On Sun, 17 May 2026, 13:10 cashdera, <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >     The source code is not published at this time.
> >
> >     Cashdera is released as a free-to-use binary application, not as a
> >     FOSS
> >     project. I understand that this distinction matters in the GnuCash
> >     community.
> >
> >     If source availability is a requirement for you to evaluate or run
> >     the
> >     software, that is completely reasonable.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >     Ars
> >
> >
> >     On 5/16/2026 8:29 PM, Jon Schewe wrote:
> >     > I see the binary release, where is the source code?
> >     >
> >     > On Sat, 2026-05-16 at 20:21 -0700, cashdera wrote:
> >     >> Hi everyone,
> >     >>
> >     >> I wanted to share that Cashdera v1.0.0 is now available as the
> >     first
> >     >> stable public release.
> >     >>
> >     >> Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a
> >     >> GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides
> >     >> dashboards, search, reporting, money-flow views, budget vs
> >     actual, net
> >     >> worth, year-over-year comparison, and basic anomaly detection.
> >     >>
> >     >> The original GnuCash book is not modified.
> >     >>
> >     >> Based on feedback from GnuCash users, Cashdera is no longer
> >     >> Windows-only. The v1.0.0 release is now available for:
> >     >>
> >     >>   * Windows
> >     >>   * macOS
> >     >>   * Linux
> >     >>
> >     >> v1.0.0 is the first stable tag promoted from the 0.2.0 public beta
> >     >> baseline. No intentional breaking API or UX changes were
> >     introduced in
> >     >> the promotion step.
> >     >>
> >     >> Notable changes in v1.0.0 include:
> >     >>
> >     >>   * Dashboard now shows separate counters for Transactions and
> >     Postings.
> >     >>   * Dashboard now separates Overview and Money Flow into tabs;
> >     Money
> >     >>     Flow loads on demand.
> >     >>   * Categories page now includes account-type tabs: Expenses,
> >     Income,
> >     >>     Assets, Liabilities, and Equity.
> >     >>   * After successful import or re-import, the app automatically
> >     switches
> >     >>     to the imported book.
> >     >>   * Recent imports now includes a Delete action to remove
> >     Cashdera local
> >     >>     import data and cache.
> >     >>   * Analytics aggregation now uses exact decimal arithmetic to
> >     avoid
> >     >>     cumulative rounding errors across large transaction sets.
> >     >>   * React ErrorBoundary added to prevent unhandled render
> >     crashes from
> >     >>     showing a blank screen.
> >     >>   * Account count now excludes the technical Root Account
> >     container.
> >     >>   * Date Range starts inactive on app launch and only filters
> >     analytics
> >     >>     after the user chooses a range.
> >     >>   * Categories hierarchy behavior has been improved with better
> >     >>     expand/select logic and clearer rollups.
> >     >>   * XML namespace parsing for account entities was fixed to
> prevent
> >     >>     phantom account rows during import.
> >     >>   * Re-import result messages are now tied to the active
> >     background job
> >     >>     to avoid stale completion messages.
> >     >>   * Dashboard avoids false empty states when postings exist but
> >     >>     transaction headers are unavailable.
> >     >>
> >     >> Privacy / data handling:
> >     >>
> >     >>   * No cloud upload
> >     >>   * No server sync
> >     >>   * No account required
> >     >>   * No telemetry
> >     >>   * Data is processed locally
> >     >>   * The original GnuCash file remains the source of truth
> >     >>   * Deleting an import removes only Cashdera local data; the
> >     original
> >     >>     |.gnucash|file is not modified or deleted
> >     >>
> >     >> Release:
> >     >>
> >     >> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.0.0
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> Documentation / screenshots:
> >     >>
> >     >> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> If anyone tries it with a real-world GnuCash book, practical
> >     feedback is
> >     >> welcome, especially around import correctness, report accuracy,
> >     >> performance on larger books, and missing analytics views.
> >     >>
> >     >> Regards,
> >     >> Ars
> >     >>
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From stan+gc at fastmail.fm  Mon May 18 13:14:33 2026
From: stan+gc at fastmail.fm (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 10:14:33 -0700
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
 <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
 <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <753aa5de-d7a9-4aaa-84a4-c86e711e34a7@fastmail.fm>

>> On 05/18/2026 8:55 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)  wrote:
>>
>> File?? Export?? Export Transactions to CSV
>>
>> The wizard that opens says there will be one row for each 
>> transaction, so all you have to do is open the exported file and
>> look at the number of the last row used.>>
>> It also says "While a transaction may have splits in several of the
>> selected accounts it will only be exported once" so you don't have to
>> worry about double counting.

On 2026-05-18 08:55, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
>> Step 1: I would filter the register to the dates that I want. "Filter
>> by" is found under the view menu.
>> Step 2: Export the register. This is found under "File -> Export ->
>>Export Active Register to CSV"

On 2026-05-18 09:14, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> The wording is: "There will be multiple rows for each transaction
> with each row representing one split.">
> The only time a "transaction" appears on a single line, and this
> term "transaction" is a bit of a challenge here, is when the
> "transaction" is only a memo entry [zero value and only one
> account, and thus the difficulty with the word "transaction," but
> the memo entries do export].
Different menu items. Patrick is talking about "Export Active Register
to CSV"; I'm talking about "Export Transactions to CSV". The attached
screenshot confirms what I said; I've outlined the relevant text in
blue. (I'm using GC 4.14, so I suppose it's possible the working of
"Export Transactions to CSV" was changed for 5.x, but I'd be surprised.)

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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From robertk at robertk.com  Mon May 18 13:32:33 2026
From: robertk at robertk.com (Robert Kesterson)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 12:32:33 -0500
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
 =?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
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References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
 <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
 <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>
 <CAOMgiF_SzT6A9+G8MyU35b3d7TDV_mv01oRYjPd5xQVBjR7jrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <ac7bd605-ad57-4ecc-bd7d-270efad10b8a@gmail.com>
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I appreciate knowing Cashdera is out there, but could support issues for 
it be directed someplace besides this list?

On 18 May 2026, at 12:05, Fross, Michael via gnucash-user wrote:

> Hello Ars,  your readme says  "Open Cashdera ? no sign-in, no setup 
> wizard"
> but on windows, I'm immediately presented with a setup wizard.
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 1:18?AM cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Kim,
>>
>> Thank you for the kind words. I?m glad to hear that you are 
>> enjoying
>> Cashdera.
>>
>> Yes, this is a real bug. At the moment, the export file is being 
>> written
>> to the Downloads directory by default, even when a different target
>> directory is selected.
>>
>> This is not a Windows 11 issue on your side.
>>
>> I will fix this in the next release so the export uses the directory
>> selected by the user.
>>
>> Thank you for reporting it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ars
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/2026 10:36 PM, Bali Visits wrote:
>>> Hello Ars,
>>>
>>> I have your latest Windows release (v1.0.0) and tried exporting
>>> accounts today.  I selected a target directory for export, but the
>>> exported CSV file didn't arrive as expected.  I finally found it in 
>>> my
>>> Download directory.  Is this a bug, or is it a glitch with my 
>>> Windows
>>> 11 setup?  Apart from that, I am enjoying Cashdera.
>>>
>>> *Kim Wood*
>>> *Mobile:* +61 401 117-997
>>> *Email*: kimley.wood at gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, 17 May 2026, 13:10 cashdera, <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     The source code is not published at this time.
>>>
>>>     Cashdera is released as a free-to-use binary application, not as 
>>> a
>>>     FOSS
>>>     project. I understand that this distinction matters in the 
>>> GnuCash
>>>     community.
>>>
>>>     If source availability is a requirement for you to evaluate or 
>>> run
>>>     the
>>>     software, that is completely reasonable.
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>     Ars
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 5/16/2026 8:29 PM, Jon Schewe wrote:
>>>     > I see the binary release, where is the source code?
>>>     >
>>>     > On Sat, 2026-05-16 at 20:21 -0700, cashdera wrote:
>>>     >> Hi everyone,
>>>     >>
>>>     >> I wanted to share that Cashdera v1.0.0 is now available as 
>>> the
>>>     first
>>>     >> stable public release.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It 
>>> imports a
>>>     >> GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides
>>>     >> dashboards, search, reporting, money-flow views, budget vs
>>>     actual, net
>>>     >> worth, year-over-year comparison, and basic anomaly 
>>> detection.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> The original GnuCash book is not modified.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Based on feedback from GnuCash users, Cashdera is no longer
>>>     >> Windows-only. The v1.0.0 release is now available for:
>>>     >>
>>>     >>   * Windows
>>>     >>   * macOS
>>>     >>   * Linux
>>>     >>
>>>     >> v1.0.0 is the first stable tag promoted from the 0.2.0 public 
>>> beta
>>>     >> baseline. No intentional breaking API or UX changes were
>>>     introduced in
>>>     >> the promotion step.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Notable changes in v1.0.0 include:
>>>     >>
>>>     >>   * Dashboard now shows separate counters for Transactions 
>>> and
>>>     Postings.
>>>     >>   * Dashboard now separates Overview and Money Flow into 
>>> tabs;
>>>     Money
>>>     >>     Flow loads on demand.
>>>     >>   * Categories page now includes account-type tabs: Expenses,
>>>     Income,
>>>     >>     Assets, Liabilities, and Equity.
>>>     >>   * After successful import or re-import, the app 
>>> automatically
>>>     switches
>>>     >>     to the imported book.
>>>     >>   * Recent imports now includes a Delete action to remove
>>>     Cashdera local
>>>     >>     import data and cache.
>>>     >>   * Analytics aggregation now uses exact decimal arithmetic 
>>> to
>>>     avoid
>>>     >>     cumulative rounding errors across large transaction sets.
>>>     >>   * React ErrorBoundary added to prevent unhandled render
>>>     crashes from
>>>     >>     showing a blank screen.
>>>     >>   * Account count now excludes the technical Root Account
>>>     container.
>>>     >>   * Date Range starts inactive on app launch and only filters
>>>     analytics
>>>     >>     after the user chooses a range.
>>>     >>   * Categories hierarchy behavior has been improved with 
>>> better
>>>     >>     expand/select logic and clearer rollups.
>>>     >>   * XML namespace parsing for account entities was fixed to
>> prevent
>>>     >>     phantom account rows during import.
>>>     >>   * Re-import result messages are now tied to the active
>>>     background job
>>>     >>     to avoid stale completion messages.
>>>     >>   * Dashboard avoids false empty states when postings exist 
>>> but
>>>     >>     transaction headers are unavailable.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Privacy / data handling:
>>>     >>
>>>     >>   * No cloud upload
>>>     >>   * No server sync
>>>     >>   * No account required
>>>     >>   * No telemetry
>>>     >>   * Data is processed locally
>>>     >>   * The original GnuCash file remains the source of truth
>>>     >>   * Deleting an import removes only Cashdera local data; the
>>>     original
>>>     >>     |.gnucash|file is not modified or deleted
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Release:
>>>     >>
>>>     >> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.0.0
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Documentation / screenshots:
>>>     >>
>>>     >> https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> If anyone tries it with a real-world GnuCash book, practical
>>>     feedback is
>>>     >> welcome, especially around import correctness, report 
>>> accuracy,
>>>     >> performance on larger books, and missing analytics views.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Regards,
>>>     >> Ars
>>>     >>
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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Mon May 18 14:16:31 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 11:16:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <753aa5de-d7a9-4aaa-84a4-c86e711e34a7@fastmail.fm>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
 <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
 <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
 <753aa5de-d7a9-4aaa-84a4-c86e711e34a7@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <1908969922.598750.1779128191207@connect.xfinity.com>

Stan,

The wording must have changed sometime between your version and v5.15. I went through your suggested process, which exported splits, and then I went back and read the screen. I am using GnuCash v5.15.

In v5.15 the wording is the same and the results are the same for both Register export and Transaction export with the same one account and dates the same. I didn't compare character-by-character, but both exports had the same number of rows with the same unique transaction IDs.


> On 05/18/2026 10:14 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <stan+gc at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
>  
> >> On 05/18/2026 8:55 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)  wrote:
> >>
> >> File?? Export?? Export Transactions to CSV
> >>
> >> The wizard that opens says there will be one row for each 
> >> transaction, so all you have to do is open the exported file and
> >> look at the number of the last row used.>>
> >> It also says "While a transaction may have splits in several of the
> >> selected accounts it will only be exported once" so you don't have to
> >> worry about double counting.
> 
> On 2026-05-18 08:55, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> >> Step 1: I would filter the register to the dates that I want. "Filter
> >> by" is found under the view menu.
> >> Step 2: Export the register. This is found under "File -> Export ->
> >>Export Active Register to CSV"
> 
> On 2026-05-18 09:14, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> > The wording is: "There will be multiple rows for each transaction
> > with each row representing one split.">
> > The only time a "transaction" appears on a single line, and this
> > term "transaction" is a bit of a challenge here, is when the
> > "transaction" is only a memo entry [zero value and only one
> > account, and thus the difficulty with the word "transaction," but
> > the memo entries do export].
> Different menu items. Patrick is talking about "Export Active Register
> to CSV"; I'm talking about "Export Transactions to CSV". The attached
> screenshot confirms what I said; I've outlined the relevant text in
> blue. (I'm using GC 4.14, so I suppose it's possible the working of
> "Export Transactions to CSV" was changed for 5.x, but I'd be surprised.)
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com

From stan+gc at fastmail.fm  Mon May 18 14:41:21 2026
From: stan+gc at fastmail.fm (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 11:41:21 -0700
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <665806901.598167.1779127113715@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
 <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
 <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
 <753aa5de-d7a9-4aaa-84a4-c86e711e34a7@fastmail.fm>
 <665806901.598167.1779127113715@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <bdcc8575-c1c2-43a7-bf6b-91ce251ef6c1@fastmail.fm>

Re-sending to get it to the list.

On 2026-05-18 10:58, Patrick James wrote:
> Stan,
> 
> The wording must have changed sometime between your version and v5.15. I went through your suggested process, which exported splits, and then I went back and read the screen. I am using GnuCash v5.15.
> 
> In v5.15 the wording is the same and the results are the same for both Register export and Transaction export with the same one account and dates the same. I didn't compare character-by-character, but both exports had the same number of rows with the same unique transaction IDs.

Thanks for checking, Patrick.

In my naivete :-) I failed to consider the possibility that the wizard
text (screenshot provided in my previous) might not describe correctly
what it does, so I didn't try it. When I did try it, just now, I found
one split per row. The first split of each transaction contains
transaction-level information in the first seven columns, and the other
splits of a transaction have blanks in those columns.

That sounds consistent with what you described, so I'm guessing that the
export used to work as described in my screenshot, and then sometime
before 4.14 the export was changed to the present format but the text of
the wizard wasn't updated till later.

It would still be possible with this format to find the number of
transactions by counting the number of cells in the date column that
contain numerics: =COUNT(A1:A1242) in Excel, and presumably something
similar in other spreadsheet programs. Alternatively, if I just
highlight that column Excel displays a numerical count in the status line.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com


>> On 05/18/2026 10:14 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <stan+gc at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>>> On 05/18/2026 8:55 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> File?? Export?? Export Transactions to CSV
>>>>
>>>> The wizard that opens says there will be one row for each 
>>>> transaction, so all you have to do is open the exported file and
>>>> look at the number of the last row used.>>
>>>> It also says "While a transaction may have splits in several of the
>>>> selected accounts it will only be exported once" so you don't have to
>>>> worry about double counting.
>>
>> On 2026-05-18 08:55, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
>>>> Step 1: I would filter the register to the dates that I want. "Filter
>>>> by" is found under the view menu.
>>>> Step 2: Export the register. This is found under "File -> Export ->
>>>> Export Active Register to CSV"
>>
>> On 2026-05-18 09:14, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
>>> The wording is: "There will be multiple rows for each transaction
>>> with each row representing one split.">
>>> The only time a "transaction" appears on a single line, and this
>>> term "transaction" is a bit of a challenge here, is when the
>>> "transaction" is only a memo entry [zero value and only one
>>> account, and thus the difficulty with the word "transaction," but
>>> the memo entries do export].
>> Different menu items. Patrick is talking about "Export Active Register
>> to CSV"; I'm talking about "Export Transactions to CSV". The attached
>> screenshot confirms what I said; I've outlined the relevant text in
>> blue. (I'm using GC 4.14, so I suppose it's possible the working of
>> "Export Transactions to CSV" was changed for 5.x, but I'd be surprised.)
>>
>> Stan Brown
>> Tehachapi, CA, USA
>> https://BrownMath.com


From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Mon May 18 14:48:27 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 11:48:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] How to count transactions for time period
In-Reply-To: <bdcc8575-c1c2-43a7-bf6b-91ce251ef6c1@fastmail.fm>
References: <agsxsXH5ob1md19q@mail.michaelaltfield.net>
 <c752145d-bb3d-45b4-b51d-53e8b535ad16@fastmail.fm>
 <804847792.594721.1779120861629@connect.xfinity.com>
 <753aa5de-d7a9-4aaa-84a4-c86e711e34a7@fastmail.fm>
 <665806901.598167.1779127113715@connect.xfinity.com>
 <bdcc8575-c1c2-43a7-bf6b-91ce251ef6c1@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <2002913559.599869.1779130107866@connect.xfinity.com>

Stan,

I suggested COUNTA(UNIQUE(RANGE OF UNIQUE TRANSACTION IDS))

The range is in column B with a header, so B2:BXXX, where XXX is the row of the last transaction ID.

COUNTA to include more than numbers and dates (i.e. capture the transactions IDs).

UNIQUE to only count the transactions, as the splits for a single transaction all have the same transaction ID.

The range must not include any blank lines or the count will overstated by one--an extra blank line.

In any event, there are various ways, and others have suggested using SQL, which would work, but might not be the best solution for the person seeking the information.


I also apologize for not "replying to all" in that last message.

> On 05/18/2026 11:41 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <stan+gc at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
>  
> Re-sending to get it to the list.
> 
> On 2026-05-18 10:58, Patrick James wrote:
> > Stan,
> > 
> > The wording must have changed sometime between your version and v5.15. I went through your suggested process, which exported splits, and then I went back and read the screen. I am using GnuCash v5.15.
> > 
> > In v5.15 the wording is the same and the results are the same for both Register export and Transaction export with the same one account and dates the same. I didn't compare character-by-character, but both exports had the same number of rows with the same unique transaction IDs.
> 
> Thanks for checking, Patrick.
> 
> In my naivete :-) I failed to consider the possibility that the wizard
> text (screenshot provided in my previous) might not describe correctly
> what it does, so I didn't try it. When I did try it, just now, I found
> one split per row. The first split of each transaction contains
> transaction-level information in the first seven columns, and the other
> splits of a transaction have blanks in those columns.
> 
> That sounds consistent with what you described, so I'm guessing that the
> export used to work as described in my screenshot, and then sometime
> before 4.14 the export was changed to the present format but the text of
> the wizard wasn't updated till later.
> 
> It would still be possible with this format to find the number of
> transactions by counting the number of cells in the date column that
> contain numerics: =COUNT(A1:A1242) in Excel, and presumably something
> similar in other spreadsheet programs. Alternatively, if I just
> highlight that column Excel displays a numerical count in the status line.
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
> 
> 
> >> On 05/18/2026 10:14 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <stan+gc at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >>
> >>  
> >>>> On 05/18/2026 8:55 AM PDT Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> File?? Export?? Export Transactions to CSV
> >>>>
> >>>> The wizard that opens says there will be one row for each 
> >>>> transaction, so all you have to do is open the exported file and
> >>>> look at the number of the last row used.>>
> >>>> It also says "While a transaction may have splits in several of the
> >>>> selected accounts it will only be exported once" so you don't have to
> >>>> worry about double counting.
> >>
> >> On 2026-05-18 08:55, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> >>>> Step 1: I would filter the register to the dates that I want. "Filter
> >>>> by" is found under the view menu.
> >>>> Step 2: Export the register. This is found under "File -> Export ->
> >>>> Export Active Register to CSV"
> >>
> >> On 2026-05-18 09:14, Patrick James via gnucash-user wrote:
> >>> The wording is: "There will be multiple rows for each transaction
> >>> with each row representing one split.">
> >>> The only time a "transaction" appears on a single line, and this
> >>> term "transaction" is a bit of a challenge here, is when the
> >>> "transaction" is only a memo entry [zero value and only one
> >>> account, and thus the difficulty with the word "transaction," but
> >>> the memo entries do export].
> >> Different menu items. Patrick is talking about "Export Active Register
> >> to CSV"; I'm talking about "Export Transactions to CSV". The attached
> >> screenshot confirms what I said; I've outlined the relevant text in
> >> blue. (I'm using GC 4.14, so I suppose it's possible the working of
> >> "Export Transactions to CSV" was changed for 5.x, but I'd be surprised.)
> >>
> >> Stan Brown
> >> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> >> https://BrownMath.com

From bschuck at asgard-systems.com  Mon May 18 15:33:41 2026
From: bschuck at asgard-systems.com (Bruce Schuck)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 12:33:41 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Interim Finance::Quote Release
Message-ID: <b39f09dc-2bc9-4cf7-8611-3dd02401a3fa@asgard-systems.com>

Greetings,

I uploaded an interim release, v1.69_01, to CPAN with a couple changes.

Unfortunately Euronext (methods euronext and aex) has implemented 
methodology that prevents web scraping. The AEX.pm module has been 
removed from Finance::Quote.

Two new currency modules have been added. UniRate 
(https://unirateapi.com/) which requires an API Key. Their free tier 
allows 200 requests per day. Another new currency module is Frankfurter 
(https://frankfurter.dev/). No API Key is required.

To use either one, set the environment variable FQ_CURRENCY to "UniRate" 
or "Frankfurter" before executing GnuCash.

Since it's not a production release install using "cpan 
BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.69_01.tar.gz".


Bruce S


From nhrdls at gmail.com  Mon May 18 16:35:10 2026
From: nhrdls at gmail.com (NH Rao)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 13:35:10 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Java APIs for gnucash
Message-ID: <CAMhNmM8A1-gwggORG8oAP78tpKj8nwyHYWYDv_L0DUHFp5hmTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

https://github.com/nhrdl/java-gnucash

This started with my own need, it has been tested on only one real life
GNUcash datafile - mine, so if you choose to use it, please be careful and
make sure you have adequate backups.
For my use cases it seems to work the way I want it to work. If you are
comfortable with Java and want to play around, please feel free.

I am especially looking for experience on other operating systems and other
forms of gnucash data such as databases etc. Technically it should work as
it's just a URI, but practically it might not behave. It has been only
tested on a platform available to me - Ubuntu 24.04 and gnucash version 5.5

This library is Java binding for gnucash API. While there are multiple Java
libraries available, as far as I know, none of the libraries use the API
exposed by gnucash. This library uses the same technique sample python
scripts included with gnucash use - load the shared library and call
functions from the library.

So far, I am able to achieve most of what python utilities do, may not be
exactly the same approach, but functionality is there.

I'd some specific needs, some related to reports, some related to data
input. For the reports, I've invested in the same mutual fund in multiple
accounts. It was getting harder for me to keep track of total investment
because of my account structure. There is a utility that outputs the
information for a given commodity as gnucash calls it, from all the
accounts.

For input, I wanted to read my paystub PDF file and create entries
automatically. This includes gross/net pay, taxes and deductions splits.
Similar story for my mortgage. Read the PDF statement and create splits
automatically based on information coming from the PDF.

Lastly, updating the stock/fund prices. I found an API from Twelve data and
used it to update the prices. I've no relationship with Twelve data apart
from creating the API key and using the free version of API. Twelve data
throttles the calls, so code will notice the throttling and wait until
throttling timeout is done.

While sample utilities are working, it's very hard to illustrate with
examples as this is real life confidential data. For PDF files, generally
speaking there are two parts, a part which reads data from PDF and another
part that actually creates the transaction and splits. For splits, code
uses a simple mapping file that maps relevant entries from PDF to account
GUID. These mapping files are available in code.

Hope you also enjoy,

Niranjan

From will at theprescotts.com  Mon May 18 17:18:30 2026
From: will at theprescotts.com (William Prescott)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 15:18:30 -0600
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
 =?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <247C7333-1867-4A17-AE39-F7977F944425@robertk.com>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
 <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
 <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>
 <CAOMgiF_SzT6A9+G8MyU35b3d7TDV_mv01oRYjPd5xQVBjR7jrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <ac7bd605-ad57-4ecc-bd7d-270efad10b8a@gmail.com>
 <CAMD2DftAm6e9-9yh=H1xzrEQTWTWe_Ma2y0Cb+=758MkXBO_yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <247C7333-1867-4A17-AE39-F7977F944425@robertk.com>
Message-ID: <689165EE-C48A-4A4A-B028-813F79CA1B66@theprescotts.com>

I concur with that request.

Will

On 18 May 2026, at 11:32, Robert Kesterson <robertk at robertk.com> wrote:

I appreciate knowing Cashdera is out there, but could support issues for it be directed someplace besides this list?


From apowell656 at gmail.com  Mon May 18 13:30:14 2026
From: apowell656 at gmail.com (Andre Powell)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 13:30:14 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
Message-ID: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>

I have been following the software?s development in the background for some time and had already planned to move my business finances back to GnuCash later this year from Wave Accounting. After doing my taxes this year, I really felt the lack of true accounting workflows with Wave, and it pushed me to reconsider the tools I was using overall.

For my personal finances, I had been using YNAB for years because of its greatest strength for our household: communication. At the beginning of this year, I moved to Actual Budget, but after running into an issue in mid-April and spending a lot of time trying to clean it up, I decided it was time to move back to GnuCash completely.

What I realized during the process was that I needed a few things in place to make GnuCash fit the workflow my wife and I had become accustomed to:

A way to summarize the financial information most important to us
A budget report that better communicates our current position
A way to track debt repayment progress directly inside the same application
I ended up putting together a set of dashboard and report modifications and wanted to share them with the community in case others find them useful or would like to contribute.

Financial Dashboard

?

Budget vs. Actual
Emergency Fund tracking
Debt Repayment summary
Cashflow snapshot
Net Worth
Account Balances
Projected Balances
Upcoming Transactions
Highest Spending Categories
Budget Report Improvements

?

Sinking Funds
Future Purchases
Carryover Amounts
The goal was to bring some of the communication and visibility strengths found in tools like YNAB and Actual Budget into a more traditional accounting workflow.

Debt Repayment Planner
?
Select debts to pay down
Choose snowball, avalanche, or custom repayment methods
Add additional payments to accelerate progress
I have been using this setup for some time and greatly reduced some stress, especially wondering if the numbers are accurate. 

*Disclaimer: My programming background is Java, Python, Swift, and Flutter. It was kind of cool to poke around in Scheme for a change. Between Googling and using some assistance, I was able to get this up and running. I also lean on Refactoring UI to make things look "nicer" than my brain would normally conceive ;-). If there are optimizations or improvements that could be made, I am completely open to feedback.

The dashboard/report modifications are available here: https://github.com/apowell656/gnucash-financial-radar

From mohavebaked at gmail.com  Mon May 18 18:05:00 2026
From: mohavebaked at gmail.com (Chris Graves)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 15:05:00 -0700
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
 =?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <689165EE-C48A-4A4A-B028-813F79CA1B66@theprescotts.com>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
 <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
 <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>
 <CAOMgiF_SzT6A9+G8MyU35b3d7TDV_mv01oRYjPd5xQVBjR7jrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <ac7bd605-ad57-4ecc-bd7d-270efad10b8a@gmail.com>
 <CAMD2DftAm6e9-9yh=H1xzrEQTWTWe_Ma2y0Cb+=758MkXBO_yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <247C7333-1867-4A17-AE39-F7977F944425@robertk.com>
 <689165EE-C48A-4A4A-B028-813F79CA1B66@theprescotts.com>
Message-ID: <D6AA0512-8D87-4BC5-959B-8682164EBF7D@gmail.com>

+1

> On May 18, 2026, at 2:18?PM, William Prescott <will at theprescotts.com> wrote:
> 
> I concur with that request.
> 
> Will
> 
> On 18 May 2026, at 11:32, Robert Kesterson <robertk at robertk.com> wrote:
> 
> I appreciate knowing Cashdera is out there, but could support issues for it be directed someplace besides this list?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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From edodd at billiau.net  Mon May 18 18:11:12 2026
From: edodd at billiau.net (Liz)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 08:11:12 +1000
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=E2=80=94_first_stable_relea?=
 =?utf-8?q?se=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <247C7333-1867-4A17-AE39-F7977F944425@robertk.com>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
 <56bcce2818b765fbe098affbe09188b8c29b4d94.camel@mtu.net>
 <d6a7921c-acc8-4e8b-91e5-896d4c678687@gmail.com>
 <CAOMgiF_SzT6A9+G8MyU35b3d7TDV_mv01oRYjPd5xQVBjR7jrg@mail.gmail.com>
 <ac7bd605-ad57-4ecc-bd7d-270efad10b8a@gmail.com>
 <CAMD2DftAm6e9-9yh=H1xzrEQTWTWe_Ma2y0Cb+=758MkXBO_yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <247C7333-1867-4A17-AE39-F7977F944425@robertk.com>
Message-ID: <20260519081112.00019868@zenbook3.billiau.net>

On Mon, 18 May 2026 12:32:33 -0500
Robert Kesterson <robertk at robertk.com> wrote:

> I appreciate knowing Cashdera is out there, but could support issues
> for it be directed someplace besides this list?
> 

I suggest 
https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/issues

Liz

From jralls at ceridwen.us  Mon May 18 18:26:49 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 15:26:49 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Java APIs for gnucash
In-Reply-To: <CAMhNmM8A1-gwggORG8oAP78tpKj8nwyHYWYDv_L0DUHFp5hmTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMhNmM8A1-gwggORG8oAP78tpKj8nwyHYWYDv_L0DUHFp5hmTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7577A063-2024-4ED7-92D1-DD5F7853AE4C@ceridwen.us>

Impressive work.

Just one minor detail: GnuCash is licensed under the GNU General Public License V2 or later, and one condition of that license is that any derivative work must also be released under that license. You?re including our headers and linking our libraries, so your library is a derivative work. The Apache License 2.0 does *not* meet the requirements of the GPL (though the reverse is true for GPL V3) so Apache Licensed projects can *not* be derivative of GPL-licensed code [1]. Please replace the LICENSE file in your repo with the GPL COPYING and place a comment with the GPL notice at the top of each source file.

Regards,
John Ralls

[1] https://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html

> On May 18, 2026, at 13:35, NH Rao <nhrdls at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> https://github.com/nhrdl/java-gnucash
> 
> This started with my own need, it has been tested on only one real life
> GNUcash datafile - mine, so if you choose to use it, please be careful and
> make sure you have adequate backups.
> For my use cases it seems to work the way I want it to work. If you are
> comfortable with Java and want to play around, please feel free.
> 
> I am especially looking for experience on other operating systems and other
> forms of gnucash data such as databases etc. Technically it should work as
> it's just a URI, but practically it might not behave. It has been only
> tested on a platform available to me - Ubuntu 24.04 and gnucash version 5.5
> 
> This library is Java binding for gnucash API. While there are multiple Java
> libraries available, as far as I know, none of the libraries use the API
> exposed by gnucash. This library uses the same technique sample python
> scripts included with gnucash use - load the shared library and call
> functions from the library.
> 
> So far, I am able to achieve most of what python utilities do, may not be
> exactly the same approach, but functionality is there.
> 
> I'd some specific needs, some related to reports, some related to data
> input. For the reports, I've invested in the same mutual fund in multiple
> accounts. It was getting harder for me to keep track of total investment
> because of my account structure. There is a utility that outputs the
> information for a given commodity as gnucash calls it, from all the
> accounts.
> 
> For input, I wanted to read my paystub PDF file and create entries
> automatically. This includes gross/net pay, taxes and deductions splits.
> Similar story for my mortgage. Read the PDF statement and create splits
> automatically based on information coming from the PDF.
> 
> Lastly, updating the stock/fund prices. I found an API from Twelve data and
> used it to update the prices. I've no relationship with Twelve data apart
> from creating the API key and using the free version of API. Twelve data
> throttles the calls, so code will notice the throttling and wait until
> throttling timeout is done.
> 
> While sample utilities are working, it's very hard to illustrate with
> examples as this is real life confidential data. For PDF files, generally
> speaking there are two parts, a part which reads data from PDF and another
> part that actually creates the transaction and splits. For splits, code
> uses a simple mapping file that maps relevant entries from PDF to account
> GUID. These mapping files are available in code.
> 
> Hope you also enjoy,
> 
> Niranjan
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.


From jralls at ceridwen.us  Mon May 18 18:31:51 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 15:31:51 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
References: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <597B8F4E-3285-4AE4-B473-5E47DE94DA2A@ceridwen.us>

Wow, two consecutive emails announcing derivative projects. It?s rare to have even one in a year.

Unfortunately yours has the same problem as NH Rao?s: You have used the wrong license. The MIT license is far too permissive for GPL compatibility. Please replace the MIT LICENSE file in your repository with the GPL?s COPYING and place a GPL notice at the top of every source file. Thanks.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 18, 2026, at 10:30, Andre Powell <apowell656 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have been following the software?s development in the background for some time and had already planned to move my business finances back to GnuCash later this year from Wave Accounting. After doing my taxes this year, I really felt the lack of true accounting workflows with Wave, and it pushed me to reconsider the tools I was using overall.
> 
> For my personal finances, I had been using YNAB for years because of its greatest strength for our household: communication. At the beginning of this year, I moved to Actual Budget, but after running into an issue in mid-April and spending a lot of time trying to clean it up, I decided it was time to move back to GnuCash completely.
> 
> What I realized during the process was that I needed a few things in place to make GnuCash fit the workflow my wife and I had become accustomed to:
> 
> A way to summarize the financial information most important to us
> A budget report that better communicates our current position
> A way to track debt repayment progress directly inside the same application
> I ended up putting together a set of dashboard and report modifications and wanted to share them with the community in case others find them useful or would like to contribute.
> 
> Financial Dashboard
> 
> ?
> 
> Budget vs. Actual
> Emergency Fund tracking
> Debt Repayment summary
> Cashflow snapshot
> Net Worth
> Account Balances
> Projected Balances
> Upcoming Transactions
> Highest Spending Categories
> Budget Report Improvements
> 
> ?
> 
> Sinking Funds
> Future Purchases
> Carryover Amounts
> The goal was to bring some of the communication and visibility strengths found in tools like YNAB and Actual Budget into a more traditional accounting workflow.
> 
> Debt Repayment Planner
> ?
> Select debts to pay down
> Choose snowball, avalanche, or custom repayment methods
> Add additional payments to accelerate progress
> I have been using this setup for some time and greatly reduced some stress, especially wondering if the numbers are accurate. 
> 
> *Disclaimer: My programming background is Java, Python, Swift, and Flutter. It was kind of cool to poke around in Scheme for a change. Between Googling and using some assistance, I was able to get this up and running. I also lean on Refactoring UI to make things look "nicer" than my brain would normally conceive ;-). If there are optimizations or improvements that could be made, I am completely open to feedback.
> 
> The dashboard/report modifications are available here: https://github.com/apowell656/gnucash-financial-radar
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.


From nhrdls at gmail.com  Mon May 18 18:55:10 2026
From: nhrdls at gmail.com (NH Rao)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 15:55:10 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Java APIs for gnucash
In-Reply-To: <7577A063-2024-4ED7-92D1-DD5F7853AE4C@ceridwen.us>
References: <CAMhNmM8A1-gwggORG8oAP78tpKj8nwyHYWYDv_L0DUHFp5hmTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <7577A063-2024-4ED7-92D1-DD5F7853AE4C@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <CAMhNmM-uQ_kRrR8vG2oO=0UxegMHP3mTGXMYsQ0uPP8qt5dC6A@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings John,

Thanks for pointing out the licensing issue. I completely missed the
incompatibility between Apache 2.0 and GPLv2.

I will get this sorted out and replace the LICENSE file with the GPL
COPYING and add the notice to the source files.

Regards,
Niranjan

On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 3:29?PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:

> Impressive work.
>
> Just one minor detail: GnuCash is licensed under the GNU General Public
> License V2 or later, and one condition of that license is that any
> derivative work must also be released under that license. You?re including
> our headers and linking our libraries, so your library is a derivative
> work. The Apache License 2.0 does *not* meet the requirements of the GPL
> (though the reverse is true for GPL V3) so Apache Licensed projects can
> *not* be derivative of GPL-licensed code [1]. Please replace the LICENSE
> file in your repo with the GPL COPYING and place a comment with the GPL
> notice at the top of each source file.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
>
> > On May 18, 2026, at 13:35, NH Rao <nhrdls at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > https://github.com/nhrdl/java-gnucash
> >
> > This started with my own need, it has been tested on only one real life
> > GNUcash datafile - mine, so if you choose to use it, please be careful
> and
> > make sure you have adequate backups.
> > For my use cases it seems to work the way I want it to work. If you are
> > comfortable with Java and want to play around, please feel free.
> >
> > I am especially looking for experience on other operating systems and
> other
> > forms of gnucash data such as databases etc. Technically it should work
> as
> > it's just a URI, but practically it might not behave. It has been only
> > tested on a platform available to me - Ubuntu 24.04 and gnucash version
> 5.5
> >
> > This library is Java binding for gnucash API. While there are multiple
> Java
> > libraries available, as far as I know, none of the libraries use the API
> > exposed by gnucash. This library uses the same technique sample python
> > scripts included with gnucash use - load the shared library and call
> > functions from the library.
> >
> > So far, I am able to achieve most of what python utilities do, may not be
> > exactly the same approach, but functionality is there.
> >
> > I'd some specific needs, some related to reports, some related to data
> > input. For the reports, I've invested in the same mutual fund in multiple
> > accounts. It was getting harder for me to keep track of total investment
> > because of my account structure. There is a utility that outputs the
> > information for a given commodity as gnucash calls it, from all the
> > accounts.
> >
> > For input, I wanted to read my paystub PDF file and create entries
> > automatically. This includes gross/net pay, taxes and deductions splits.
> > Similar story for my mortgage. Read the PDF statement and create splits
> > automatically based on information coming from the PDF.
> >
> > Lastly, updating the stock/fund prices. I found an API from Twelve data
> and
> > used it to update the prices. I've no relationship with Twelve data apart
> > from creating the API key and using the free version of API. Twelve data
> > throttles the calls, so code will notice the throttling and wait until
> > throttling timeout is done.
> >
> > While sample utilities are working, it's very hard to illustrate with
> > examples as this is real life confidential data. For PDF files, generally
> > speaking there are two parts, a part which reads data from PDF and
> another
> > part that actually creates the transaction and splits. For splits, code
> > uses a simple mapping file that maps relevant entries from PDF to account
> > GUID. These mapping files are available in code.
> >
> > Hope you also enjoy,
> >
> > Niranjan
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnucash-user mailing list
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> > -----
> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
>

From dullege at hotmail.com  Mon May 18 20:41:29 2026
From: dullege at hotmail.com (W R D)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 00:41:29 +0000
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?windows-1252?q?Cashdera_v1=2E0=2E0_=97_first_stable_rele?=
 =?windows-1252?q?ase=2C_now_available_for_Windows=2C_macOS=2C_and_Linux?=
In-Reply-To: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
References: <8fe79594-8ca2-41c7-8e3c-402eb8530ef1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MEUP300MB02613E885D557BF15ABBA9E1B9002@MEUP300MB0261.AUSP300.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Thanks for this - just to confirm that it does not work with SQLite format .gnucash right?  It will be only for XML format .gnucash files? 

Regards,
Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+dullege=hotmail.com at gnucash.org> On Behalf Of cashdera
Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2026 1:22 PM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Cashdera v1.0.0 ? first stable release, now available for Windows, macOS, and Linux

Hi everyone,

I wanted to share that Cashdera v1.0.0 is now available as the first stable public release.

Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides dashboards, search, reporting, money-flow views, budget vs actual, net worth, year-over-year comparison, and basic anomaly detection.

The original GnuCash book is not modified.

Based on feedback from GnuCash users, Cashdera is no longer Windows-only. The v1.0.0 release is now available for:

  * Windows
  * macOS
  * Linux

v1.0.0 is the first stable tag promoted from the 0.2.0 public beta baseline. No intentional breaking API or UX changes were introduced in the promotion step.

Notable changes in v1.0.0 include:

  * Dashboard now shows separate counters for Transactions and Postings.
  * Dashboard now separates Overview and Money Flow into tabs; Money
    Flow loads on demand.
  * Categories page now includes account-type tabs: Expenses, Income,
    Assets, Liabilities, and Equity.
  * After successful import or re-import, the app automatically switches
    to the imported book.
  * Recent imports now includes a Delete action to remove Cashdera local
    import data and cache.
  * Analytics aggregation now uses exact decimal arithmetic to avoid
    cumulative rounding errors across large transaction sets.
  * React ErrorBoundary added to prevent unhandled render crashes from
    showing a blank screen.
  * Account count now excludes the technical Root Account container.
  * Date Range starts inactive on app launch and only filters analytics
    after the user chooses a range.
  * Categories hierarchy behavior has been improved with better
    expand/select logic and clearer rollups.
  * XML namespace parsing for account entities was fixed to prevent
    phantom account rows during import.
  * Re-import result messages are now tied to the active background job
    to avoid stale completion messages.
  * Dashboard avoids false empty states when postings exist but
    transaction headers are unavailable.

Privacy / data handling:

  * No cloud upload
  * No server sync
  * No account required
  * No telemetry
  * Data is processed locally
  * The original GnuCash file remains the source of truth
  * Deleting an import removes only Cashdera local data; the original
    |.gnucash|file is not modified or deleted

Release:

https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.0.0


Documentation / screenshots:

https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md


If anyone tries it with a real-world GnuCash book, practical feedback is welcome, especially around import correctness, report accuracy, performance on larger books, and missing analytics views.

Regards,
Ars

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From blackle at queercomputerclub.ca  Mon May 18 20:58:26 2026
From: blackle at queercomputerclub.ca (Isabelle Knott)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 20:58:26 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Issues with "doubtful accounts" contra account for bad debt.
Message-ID: <19e3dbdc0a8.434cac954256472.8083438077091450389@queercomputerclub.ca>

Hello there! I have a question about how to account for bad debt and allowance for doubtful accounts in GNUCash.



I run a not-for-profit organization funded by members dues. We use the accrual basis for accounting, so we generate invoices for each member every month. Sometimes a member goes MIA and doesn't pay their dues for a few months. When that happens, I create a transaction that credits A/R for the amount owing, and debits a "Doubtful Accounts" asset, which sits next to A/R but is not a sub-account.



This is how my current setup looks in the accounts overview, supposing I have $1,000 owing to us, $100 of which is doubtful.



- Assets? $1,000

??? - Accounts Receivable? $900

??? - Doubtful Accounts? $100



If the member disappears completely we have to account for this as bad debt. To do that, I assign that first transaction as a payment on their invoices (so they can be marked as "PAID"), and then I create a split transaction crediting "Doubtful Accounts" and debiting a "Dues Forgiveness" expense account and a "Bad Debt" liability account (which tracks the uncollected sales tax.)



This way the "Doubtful Accounts" account is nominally zero, and can be easily referenced to see how much of our expected members dues are delinquent/dubious at any given time.



If instead the member returns and pays their dues, I make a transaction undoing the first transaction, bringing "Doubtful Accounts" back to zero. Their payment transaction credits A/R as usual, and it is this real payment that pays-off their invoices.



A couple of questions:



Firstly, is there a better way to do this in GNUCash? A better process? I used to un-post invoices and add a negative line item to cancel out the amount owing, but I'd like to track the amount of forgiven dues as an expense over the course of the year.



Secondly, ideally I want "Doubtful Accounts" to be a contra account against A/R. Ideally I'd like it to be a sub-account, with its account type set to "liability." That way it contributes to the sum-total of A/R but would also render as a negative number underneath in the accounts overview like so:



- Assets? $1,000

??? - Accounts Receivable? $1,000

??????? - Doubtful Accounts? -$100



This reads a lot better to me, and I like how it appears when I generate balance sheets (I always set the "calculate subtotal" option for parent account balances.)



I did some sniffing around the mailing list and this method has been described before by David Cousens[^1]. Unfortunately, I cannot use the transactions I make from A/R to "Doubtful Accounts" as payments against the member's invoices. The "Doubtful Accounts" account doesn't appear in the account list if it's under A/R as a sub-account, and so I cannot submit the dialog box if I right-click on those transactions and hit "assign as payment." Is there a way to workaround that?



Thanks for your time!



[^1] https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user at gnucash.org/msg13297.html 



Isabelle Knott

Director | Queer Computer Club Inc.

From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Mon May 18 22:39:05 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 21:39:05 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
References: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10ugigd$dfu$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Were any coding agents or code generating tools used to make this?

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/18/26 12:30 PM, Andre Powell wrote:
> *Disclaimer: My programming background is Java, Python, Swift, and Flutter. It was kind of cool to poke around in Scheme for a change. Between Googling and using some assistance, I was able to get this up and running. I also lean on Refactoring UI to make things look "nicer" than my brain would normally conceive ;-). If there are optimizations or improvements that could be made, I am completely open to feedback.
> 
> The dashboard/report modifications are available here: https://github.com/apowell656/gnucash-financial-radar


From apowell656 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 07:39:54 2026
From: apowell656 at gmail.com (Andre Powell)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 07:39:54 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <597B8F4E-3285-4AE4-B473-5E47DE94DA2A@ceridwen.us>
References: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
 <597B8F4E-3285-4AE4-B473-5E47DE94DA2A@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <CADZBKD37mp8-kvpQ85HTHye8xi+1rYJU1Cc9P1OeG_WD-c9n7A@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I botched that ;-). I made the correction.

Cheers,
Andre

On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 6:34?PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:

> Wow, two consecutive emails announcing derivative projects. It?s rare to
> have even one in a year.
>
> Unfortunately yours has the same problem as NH Rao?s: You have used the
> wrong license. The MIT license is far too permissive for GPL compatibility.
> Please replace the MIT LICENSE file in your repository with the GPL?s
> COPYING and place a GPL notice at the top of every source file. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On May 18, 2026, at 10:30, Andre Powell <apowell656 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have been following the software?s development in the background for
> some time and had already planned to move my business finances back to
> GnuCash later this year from Wave Accounting. After doing my taxes this
> year, I really felt the lack of true accounting workflows with Wave, and it
> pushed me to reconsider the tools I was using overall.
> >
> > For my personal finances, I had been using YNAB for years because of its
> greatest strength for our household: communication. At the beginning of
> this year, I moved to Actual Budget, but after running into an issue in
> mid-April and spending a lot of time trying to clean it up, I decided it
> was time to move back to GnuCash completely.
> >
> > What I realized during the process was that I needed a few things in
> place to make GnuCash fit the workflow my wife and I had become accustomed
> to:
> >
> > A way to summarize the financial information most important to us
> > A budget report that better communicates our current position
> > A way to track debt repayment progress directly inside the same
> application
> > I ended up putting together a set of dashboard and report modifications
> and wanted to share them with the community in case others find them useful
> or would like to contribute.
> >
> > Financial Dashboard
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Budget vs. Actual
> > Emergency Fund tracking
> > Debt Repayment summary
> > Cashflow snapshot
> > Net Worth
> > Account Balances
> > Projected Balances
> > Upcoming Transactions
> > Highest Spending Categories
> > Budget Report Improvements
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Sinking Funds
> > Future Purchases
> > Carryover Amounts
> > The goal was to bring some of the communication and visibility strengths
> found in tools like YNAB and Actual Budget into a more traditional
> accounting workflow.
> >
> > Debt Repayment Planner
> > ?
> > Select debts to pay down
> > Choose snowball, avalanche, or custom repayment methods
> > Add additional payments to accelerate progress
> > I have been using this setup for some time and greatly reduced some
> stress, especially wondering if the numbers are accurate.
> >
> > *Disclaimer: My programming background is Java, Python, Swift, and
> Flutter. It was kind of cool to poke around in Scheme for a change. Between
> Googling and using some assistance, I was able to get this up and running.
> I also lean on Refactoring UI to make things look "nicer" than my brain
> would normally conceive ;-). If there are optimizations or improvements
> that could be made, I am completely open to feedback.
> >
> > The dashboard/report modifications are available here:
> https://github.com/apowell656/gnucash-financial-radar
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnucash-user mailing list
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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From apowell656 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 08:00:58 2026
From: apowell656 at gmail.com (Andre Powell)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 08:00:58 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <10ugigd$dfu$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
 <10ugigd$dfu$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Message-ID: <CADZBKD1gX6PFK5FXCuuDSMaNF2xeZ+nqQzHPfGyoN6WoCk0nNw@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, in some spots I needed some *assistance*. I started out here -
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports and a lot of Google and was
able to sketch out the pieces I needed.
- the first step was a sample file and building out "financial-radar" 80
(me)/20 (I wanted to make sure I could get something on the screen)
- the second step was the budget report 70 (me)/30 (especially with reading
and parsing the notes field)
- the third step was debt repayment 50(me)/50 - I hit quite a few obstacles
(parsing not so much of an issue, but quite more other issues)
- I also used an agent to clean up the README (something I think they are
useful at doing).

What will work best for me in the future is the template I was able to
create after the fact. Which is pretty much a file structure to jog my
memory and help me think, plan, and code with Scheme. After careful
consideration, this was the biggest stumbling block I ran into was my
muscle memory of typical coding conventions and styles I use.

On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 10:41?PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Were any coding agents or code generating tools used to make this?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/18/26 12:30 PM, Andre Powell wrote:
> > *Disclaimer: My programming background is Java, Python, Swift, and
> Flutter. It was kind of cool to poke around in Scheme for a change. Between
> Googling and using some assistance, I was able to get this up and running.
> I also lean on Refactoring UI to make things look "nicer" than my brain
> would normally conceive ;-). If there are optimizations or improvements
> that could be made, I am completely open to feedback.
> >
> > The dashboard/report modifications are available here:
> https://github.com/apowell656/gnucash-financial-radar
>
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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From apowell656 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 08:57:03 2026
From: apowell656 at gmail.com (Andre Powell)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 08:57:03 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <CADZBKD1gX6PFK5FXCuuDSMaNF2xeZ+nqQzHPfGyoN6WoCk0nNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
 <10ugigd$dfu$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <CADZBKD1gX6PFK5FXCuuDSMaNF2xeZ+nqQzHPfGyoN6WoCk0nNw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADZBKD20=6u9uTz6nnw=e_h6nX+QnfPR2Pg7k9gLQo+MQ+dD4g@mail.gmail.com>

@Adrien I will say that after getting step three done, I see the value of
widgets (it would make more sense to have the functionality similar to
built-in Multicolumn or Dashboard reports for the financial-radar.scm), but
that was well beyond the scope of what I needed at the moment. I decided to
restrain myself, especially since what was most important for my use case
is being able to communicate with my wife.

 Another part of my initial scope was that I did not want to build
something that needed to run outside of GnuCash. I just want to get the
results, analyze, decide, and move on. That was very tempting, but again
restraint.

Outside of that I did learn a lot not only about Scheme, but how I actually
write code, which is something unexpected from this exercise.

On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 8:00?AM Andre Powell <apowell656 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, in some spots I needed some *assistance*. I started out here -
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports and a lot of Google and was
> able to sketch out the pieces I needed.
> - the first step was a sample file and building out "financial-radar" 80
> (me)/20 (I wanted to make sure I could get something on the screen)
> - the second step was the budget report 70 (me)/30 (especially with
> reading and parsing the notes field)
> - the third step was debt repayment 50(me)/50 - I hit quite a few
> obstacles (parsing not so much of an issue, but quite more other issues)
> - I also used an agent to clean up the README (something I think they are
> useful at doing).
>
> What will work best for me in the future is the template I was able to
> create after the fact. Which is pretty much a file structure to jog my
> memory and help me think, plan, and code with Scheme. After careful
> consideration, this was the biggest stumbling block I ran into was my
> muscle memory of typical coding conventions and styles I use.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 10:41?PM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
>> Were any coding agents or code generating tools used to make this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>> On 5/18/26 12:30 PM, Andre Powell wrote:
>> > *Disclaimer: My programming background is Java, Python, Swift, and
>> Flutter. It was kind of cool to poke around in Scheme for a change. Between
>> Googling and using some assistance, I was able to get this up and running.
>> I also lean on Refactoring UI to make things look "nicer" than my brain
>> would normally conceive ;-). If there are optimizations or improvements
>> that could be made, I am completely open to feedback.
>> >
>> > The dashboard/report modifications are available here:
>> https://github.com/apowell656/gnucash-financial-radar
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> gnucash-user mailing list
>> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
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From jralls at ceridwen.us  Tue May 19 11:52:40 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 08:52:40 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <CADZBKD37mp8-kvpQ85HTHye8xi+1rYJU1Cc9P1OeG_WD-c9n7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
 <597B8F4E-3285-4AE4-B473-5E47DE94DA2A@ceridwen.us>
 <CADZBKD37mp8-kvpQ85HTHye8xi+1rYJU1Cc9P1OeG_WD-c9n7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1CA56D72-C24E-4781-ABAC-D154A936C2B9@ceridwen.us>

Thanks.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 19, 2026, at 04:39, Andre Powell <apowell656 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, I botched that ;-). I made the correction.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andre
> 
> On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 6:34?PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us <mailto:jralls at ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>> Wow, two consecutive emails announcing derivative projects. It?s rare to have even one in a year.
>> 
>> Unfortunately yours has the same problem as NH Rao?s: You have used the wrong license. The MIT license is far too permissive for GPL compatibility. Please replace the MIT LICENSE file in your repository with the GPL?s COPYING and place a GPL notice at the top of every source file. Thanks.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>> > On May 18, 2026, at 10:30, Andre Powell <apowell656 at gmail.com <mailto:apowell656 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I have been following the software?s development in the background for some time and had already planned to move my business finances back to GnuCash later this year from Wave Accounting. After doing my taxes this year, I really felt the lack of true accounting workflows with Wave, and it pushed me to reconsider the tools I was using overall.
>> > 
>> > For my personal finances, I had been using YNAB for years because of its greatest strength for our household: communication. At the beginning of this year, I moved to Actual Budget, but after running into an issue in mid-April and spending a lot of time trying to clean it up, I decided it was time to move back to GnuCash completely.
>> > 
>> > What I realized during the process was that I needed a few things in place to make GnuCash fit the workflow my wife and I had become accustomed to:
>> > 
>> > A way to summarize the financial information most important to us
>> > A budget report that better communicates our current position
>> > A way to track debt repayment progress directly inside the same application
>> > I ended up putting together a set of dashboard and report modifications and wanted to share them with the community in case others find them useful or would like to contribute.
>> > 
>> > Financial Dashboard
>> > 
>> > ?
>> > 
>> > Budget vs. Actual
>> > Emergency Fund tracking
>> > Debt Repayment summary
>> > Cashflow snapshot
>> > Net Worth
>> > Account Balances
>> > Projected Balances
>> > Upcoming Transactions
>> > Highest Spending Categories
>> > Budget Report Improvements
>> > 
>> > ?
>> > 
>> > Sinking Funds
>> > Future Purchases
>> > Carryover Amounts
>> > The goal was to bring some of the communication and visibility strengths found in tools like YNAB and Actual Budget into a more traditional accounting workflow.
>> > 
>> > Debt Repayment Planner
>> > ?
>> > Select debts to pay down
>> > Choose snowball, avalanche, or custom repayment methods
>> > Add additional payments to accelerate progress
>> > I have been using this setup for some time and greatly reduced some stress, especially wondering if the numbers are accurate. 
>> > 
>> > *Disclaimer: My programming background is Java, Python, Swift, and Flutter. It was kind of cool to poke around in Scheme for a change. Between Googling and using some assistance, I was able to get this up and running. I also lean on Refactoring UI to make things look "nicer" than my brain would normally conceive ;-). If there are optimizations or improvements that could be made, I am completely open to feedback.
>> > 
>> > The dashboard/report modifications are available here: https://github.com/apowell656/gnucash-financial-radar
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > gnucash-user mailing list
>> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
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From stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 16:03:56 2026
From: stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com (Stephen M. Butler)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 13:03:56 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Upgrade to Ubuntu 26.04
Message-ID: <c4ac4f6a-3e6f-436a-af49-64613925bab0@gmail.com>

Just a heads up for any GnC user who is jumping on the Ubuntu 26.04 
upgrade.? This upgrade appears to have a rather aggressive clean-up of 
"unused" packages.

I had to reinstall the following packages in order to do a successful 
compile of GnC after the upgrade:

    libglib2.0-dev
    libwebkit2tkg-4.1-dev
    libsecret-1-0
    libsecret-1-dev
    libboost-all-dev


-- 
Stephen M Butler
Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com
kg7je at arrl.net
253-350-0166
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GnuPG Fingerprint:  8A25 9726 D439 758D D846 E5D4 282A 5477 0385 81D8

From flywire0 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 19:09:35 2026
From: flywire0 at gmail.com (flywire)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 09:09:35 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
Message-ID: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for sharing gnucash-financial-radar Andre, and for taking the time
to explain how you approached it.

The financial?radar dashboards and report changes look like a really
thoughtful way to highlight key information a household actually needs to
see. Having a working example in Scheme with a clear structure and comments
is an incredibly useful demonstration, and a solid basis for the few who
might want to tweak or extend it further.

Regards

From apowell656 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 19:28:41 2026
From: apowell656 at gmail.com (Andre Powell)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 19:28:41 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <565685F1-FFDD-4245-9B0F-1A3CB818C755@gmail.com>

Thank you, and I am glad to share. I hope it is useful for others or even a starting point for anything in the future (pull requests are welcome). 

Being able to keep true accounting (I enjoy having solid numbers and knowing the effect of every penny) and use the reports mainly as a communication tool (my wife just needs the 20-second version) has been huge in our house.

If I have some time in the coming weeks, I plan on trying to get the Windows portable version to look as nice as the 5.15 version.

Regards,
Andre

> On May 19, 2026, at 7:09?PM, flywire <flywire0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for sharing gnucash-financial-radar Andre, and for taking the time
> to explain how you approached it.
> 
> The financial?radar dashboards and report changes look like a really
> thoughtful way to highlight key information a household actually needs to
> see. Having a working example in Scheme with a clear structure and comments
> is an incredibly useful demonstration, and a solid basis for the few who
> might want to tweak or extend it further.
> 
> Regards
> _______________________________________________
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From elliotgraham94 at gmail.com  Wed May 20 17:03:55 2026
From: elliotgraham94 at gmail.com (Elliot Graham)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 22:03:55 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Gnudash - support required
Message-ID: <CAP-7JQ5gUXbOEwjhY=iFsCvBA=haDU=XUafsm3_trydf=ur_NQ@mail.gmail.com>

Following the other thread with the scheme development for some nice
widgets to go in the reporting - I'm keen to have a think about how I could
start to embed my side project into some more enhanced reporting
capabilities within gnucash directly

https://github.com/QuirkyTurtle94/GnuDash

I've been working on this for a few months now, trying to build myself the
reporting I want beyond what gnucash gives me and it's really getting to a
nice position. I've posted a few times on reddit for user feedback, which
has been great, but I really want to contribute into the gnucash community
rather than building my own thing.

I've never contributed to anyone else's projects before, and frankly the
gnucash contributing guidelines are a bit daunting as a solo dev. Is anyone
able to offer some support on how I might begin a foray into architecting a
solution for something like gnudash within gnucash's native reporting?

What I'm looking for is basically some support on how to have the right
discussions to build / architect NEW functionality into gnucash, not
bugfixes. If there's already a roadmap in place that has this type of thing
in, I want to know how to contribute to it.

Hopefully the above makes sense!

Thanks,
Elliot

From apowell656 at gmail.com  Wed May 20 20:14:42 2026
From: apowell656 at gmail.com (Andre Powell)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 20:14:42 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Gnudash - support required
In-Reply-To: <CAP-7JQ5gUXbOEwjhY=iFsCvBA=haDU=XUafsm3_trydf=ur_NQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP-7JQ5gUXbOEwjhY=iFsCvBA=haDU=XUafsm3_trydf=ur_NQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3F4C4358-8C23-48B6-A61F-C25A77A26319@gmail.com>

GnuDash looks pretty good (I believe most of the dashboards and reports can probably be duplicated in GnuCash minus the Sankey diagram). I started thinking about widgets late in the game myself.

I would recommend two paths (you already have the most important part: "What do I want to see?"):

- Start with the GnuCash custom reports wiki:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports

and just focus on getting something on the screen (pick a report to validate against, i.e. "Net Worth"). Wash, rinse, repeat.

- Clone my repo and have at it.

https://github.com/apowell656/gnucash-financial-radar?

The custom reports wiki is still a great reference, but I am sure there are some helper functions and patterns that could be reused so you would not have to reinvent the wheel.

The contribution guidelines are not that bad. One file (COPYING) and proper headers in your source files. I botched that myself by initially going with an MIT license, but it was quickly resolved.

Looking at the roadmap ("Reports" at the very bottom):
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Roadmap

I hope this part stays optional:

"This could be extended with Javascript interfaces to the API so that all of the report code is written in Javascript instead of Scheme."

I do not speak JavaScript that well.

But I do like this part:

"Any report module will still need some sort of scripting language to calculate the numbers. Currently we have Scheme for this, but the developers would like to get away from that. Python might be a better option."

I think that could open the door for more people to contribute richer reporting functionality.

I hope this helps.

Regards,  
Andre


> On May 20, 2026, at 5:03?PM, Elliot Graham <elliotgraham94 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Following the other thread with the scheme development for some nice
> widgets to go in the reporting - I'm keen to have a think about how I could
> start to embed my side project into some more enhanced reporting
> capabilities within gnucash directly
> 
> https://github.com/QuirkyTurtle94/GnuDash
> 
> I've been working on this for a few months now, trying to build myself the
> reporting I want beyond what gnucash gives me and it's really getting to a
> nice position. I've posted a few times on reddit for user feedback, which
> has been great, but I really want to contribute into the gnucash community
> rather than building my own thing.
> 
> I've never contributed to anyone else's projects before, and frankly the
> gnucash contributing guidelines are a bit daunting as a solo dev. Is anyone
> able to offer some support on how I might begin a foray into architecting a
> solution for something like gnudash within gnucash's native reporting?
> 
> What I'm looking for is basically some support on how to have the right
> discussions to build / architect NEW functionality into gnucash, not
> bugfixes. If there's already a roadmap in place that has this type of thing
> in, I want to know how to contribute to it.
> 
> Hopefully the above makes sense!
> 
> Thanks,
> Elliot
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From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Wed May 20 22:09:36 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 21:09:36 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <CADZBKD1gX6PFK5FXCuuDSMaNF2xeZ+nqQzHPfGyoN6WoCk0nNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D3B77C28-1AA0-4A13-9EE4-E555A47AA83A@gmail.com>
 <10ugigd$dfu$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <CADZBKD1gX6PFK5FXCuuDSMaNF2xeZ+nqQzHPfGyoN6WoCk0nNw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10ulph4$itf$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Thanks Andre, I appreciate the disclosure.

But I'm not interested in any code in any way written by a chat bot.

Best of luck with your project.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/19/26 7:00 AM, Andre Powell wrote:
> Yes, in some spots I needed some *assistance*. I started out here -
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports and a lot of Google and was
> able to sketch out the pieces I needed.
> - the first step was a sample file and building out "financial-radar" 80
> (me)/20 (I wanted to make sure I could get something on the screen)
> - the second step was the budget report 70 (me)/30 (especially with reading
> and parsing the notes field)
> - the third step was debt repayment 50(me)/50 - I hit quite a few obstacles
> (parsing not so much of an issue, but quite more other issues)
> - I also used an agent to clean up the README (something I think they are
> useful at doing).
> 
> What will work best for me in the future is the template I was able to
> create after the fact. Which is pretty much a file structure to jog my
> memory and help me think, plan, and code with Scheme. After careful
> consideration, this was the biggest stumbling block I ran into was my
> muscle memory of typical coding conventions and styles I use.
> 
> On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 10:41?PM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
>> Were any coding agents or code generating tools used to make this?


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Wed May 20 22:12:12 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 21:12:12 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Gnudash - support required
In-Reply-To: <3F4C4358-8C23-48B6-A61F-C25A77A26319@gmail.com>
References: <CAP-7JQ5gUXbOEwjhY=iFsCvBA=haDU=XUafsm3_trydf=ur_NQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <3F4C4358-8C23-48B6-A61F-C25A77A26319@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10ulplu$nom$1@ciao.gmane.io>

And there are already *some* Python bindings, though I'm not sure if 
they are sufficient enough for the desired end-goal.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/20/26 7:14 PM, Andre Powell wrote:

> "Any report module will still need some sort of scripting language to calculate the numbers. Currently we have Scheme for this, but the developers would like to get away from that. Python might be a better option."
> 
> I think that could open the door for more people to contribute richer reporting functionality.


From flywire0 at gmail.com  Fri May 22 00:32:58 2026
From: flywire0 at gmail.com (flywire)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 14:32:58 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <565685F1-FFDD-4245-9B0F-1A3CB818C755@gmail.com>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <565685F1-FFDD-4245-9B0F-1A3CB818C755@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOthWL1cmf6c1uHQJM3_P2VZ=9xZE3oKfQ_OAq-QswaZEXJKZg@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm not interested in any code in any way written by a chat bot.

Adrien, I really understand your concern, but AI-assisted development is
now part of modern software, including much of what you use. Fortunately,
with open source everything is auditable so you and the community can
review and test then you can decide for yourself whether to use it.

Regards

From tydeman.fred at gmail.com  Sat May 23 00:04:35 2026
From: tydeman.fred at gmail.com (Fred Tydeman)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 12:04:35 +0800
Subject: [GNC] Zero value for non-zero shares
Message-ID: <CAK1r+o3juD++S+J8=OovVC5O8mVHWEzuP6TGNkxYsEJHJLa5tw@mail.gmail.com>

OS:  Fedora Linux 44
GnuCash: 5.14

In both the main Accounts tab and a Balance Sheet report,
two of my investments in 2 stocks show the correct number
of shares, but the value is zero.  These are invested
using Colombia Pesos (COP).  My home currency is USD.
The parent of these 2 investments is an Asset account
in COP.  In the Accounts tab, the Total column shows
the correct sum of COP of the 2 stocks.  However,
the Total(USD) column shows $0.00.  Another COP
investment Asset shows both correct COP and correct USD.

The same results also show in Present and Present(USD) columns.

I have looked at the Tools: Price Database for
COP to USD and USD to COP.  I do not see any zeros.

I have looked at the prices for the 2 stocks and
there are no zeros.

I have done Actions: Check&Repair: Check&Repair All
That made no difference.

The same results happen for GnuCash 5.11 on Fedora Linux 40
The same results happen for GnuCash 5.5 on Fedora Linux 38

From tydeman.fred at gmail.com  Sat May 23 01:09:12 2026
From: tydeman.fred at gmail.com (Fred Tydeman)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 13:09:12 +0800
Subject: [GNC] Zero value in Report
In-Reply-To: <56C12722-4991-40D4-977D-995A10364CAA@ceridwen.us>
References: <CAK1r+o10AfVxyKa_Sq4C+ASL=c6R4_bU+3UESJLrsg8_31E5Wg@mail.gmail.com>
 <AA0D61DC-E2BF-485E-B328-8384F26C24DB@ceridwen.us>
 <CAK1r+o35Ge2s5JS8i+vaEQRgu=77zXbN6htcmJcinVsyNyfEzw@mail.gmail.com>
 <A49EC0DF-633A-4593-AD6B-5C27431CD9E0@ceridwen.us>
 <CAK1r+o1XDZVSb3T1+dAkVBtaSdZBW+F3pZ3NNzRqzRX-=NTSeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <90CC317B-2807-4616-BC29-F50C0C6CF4FA@ceridwen.us>
 <CAK1r+o3=-hSnB3_PG2KPqRRsujQdsqOfH1Ea6pqBGr--3zEXPw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK1r+o0+qe_Uiebw4rd5bexNQm215SJ8=WXM-ESQtnTmt=1C9Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <20260208192249.1401da4f@zenbook3.billiau.net>
 <CAK1r+o2Tz0Eno8i9Rauz3d57YtoUtZ-StuZb7niyn5sYXuMHEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <DA62DCBF-12F1-44AB-A905-86DF805D9B52@ceridwen.us>
 <56C12722-4991-40D4-977D-995A10364CAA@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <CAK1r+o0Su9fGhk4+N41F=-E3MHLTZCJRy-6qO3Oe_LDKuqtFMA@mail.gmail.com>

I believe this issue (does it have a bug number?) is causing my current
problem I reported today.
Is there a way to limit the number of digits recorded for COP currency?

On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 2:55?AM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:

> Fred,
>
> I?m able to reproduce the problem thanks to a copy of your file you sent
> me a couple of years ago for diagnosing a (still open) bug. The problem is
> that you?ve managed to overflow GnuCash?s number system because the large
> amount of COP in the TheCut transaction and the high precision of the
> errant exchange rates. .000247466 is represented in GnuCash as 247466/10E10
> and the COP value of TheCut is N*10E8/10E10. Reducing the COP exchange
> rate?s precision by just one digit, to .00024747, prevents the overflow.
> The overflow is causing a 0 to get passed as one of the currency values.
> You should have divide by 0 warnings in your trace file.
>
> We have int128/int128 computation to avoid exactly that kind of overflow
> so somewhere that?s getting bypassed. I just need to figure out where.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>

From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Sat May 23 01:32:24 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 22:32:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Zero value in Report
In-Reply-To: <CAK1r+o0Su9fGhk4+N41F=-E3MHLTZCJRy-6qO3Oe_LDKuqtFMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK1r+o10AfVxyKa_Sq4C+ASL=c6R4_bU+3UESJLrsg8_31E5Wg@mail.gmail.com>
 <AA0D61DC-E2BF-485E-B328-8384F26C24DB@ceridwen.us>
 <CAK1r+o35Ge2s5JS8i+vaEQRgu=77zXbN6htcmJcinVsyNyfEzw@mail.gmail.com>
 <A49EC0DF-633A-4593-AD6B-5C27431CD9E0@ceridwen.us>
 <CAK1r+o1XDZVSb3T1+dAkVBtaSdZBW+F3pZ3NNzRqzRX-=NTSeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <90CC317B-2807-4616-BC29-F50C0C6CF4FA@ceridwen.us>
 <CAK1r+o3=-hSnB3_PG2KPqRRsujQdsqOfH1Ea6pqBGr--3zEXPw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK1r+o0+qe_Uiebw4rd5bexNQm215SJ8=WXM-ESQtnTmt=1C9Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <20260208192249.1401da4f@zenbook3.billiau.net>
 <CAK1r+o2Tz0Eno8i9Rauz3d57YtoUtZ-StuZb7niyn5sYXuMHEA@mail.gmail.com>
 <DA62DCBF-12F1-44AB-A905-86DF805D9B52@ceridwen.us>
 <56C12722-4991-40D4-977D-995A10364CAA@ceridwen.us>
 <CAK1r+o0Su9fGhk4+N41F=-E3MHLTZCJRy-6qO3Oe_LDKuqtFMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1244850749.43961.1779514344551@connect.xfinity.com>

Question: Does it have a bug number?

This seems to fit:

"regardless of the precision there's an unhandled overflow exception in GncNumeric. We need to address that, all exceptions must be handled by C++ because an unhandled exception calls exit().

The problem that got fixed was the creation of prices with max-precision fractions from Finance::Quote, but it's still conceivable that such a price could be created with a normal transaction, especially in crypto currencies or mutual funds with 10^-9 SCUs. In light of that perhaps the no-round multiplication in pricedb's convert_balance is unwise."
Comment 5 by John Ralls.

https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797384#c5


> On 05/22/2026 10:09 PM PDT Fred Tydeman <tydeman.fred at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> I believe this issue (does it have a bug number?) is causing my current
> problem I reported today.
> Is there a way to limit the number of digits recorded for COP currency?
> 
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 2:55?AM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> > Fred,
> >
> > I?m able to reproduce the problem thanks to a copy of your file you sent
> > me a couple of years ago for diagnosing a (still open) bug. The problem is
> > that you?ve managed to overflow GnuCash?s number system because the large
> > amount of COP in the TheCut transaction and the high precision of the
> > errant exchange rates. .000247466 is represented in GnuCash as 247466/10E10
> > and the COP value of TheCut is N*10E8/10E10. Reducing the COP exchange
> > rate?s precision by just one digit, to .00024747, prevents the overflow.
> > The overflow is causing a 0 to get passed as one of the currency values.
> > You should have divide by 0 warnings in your trace file.
> >
> > We have int128/int128 computation to avoid exactly that kind of overflow
> > so somewhere that?s getting bypassed. I just need to figure out where.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
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From srmnonessential239x at gmail.com  Sat May 23 11:14:38 2026
From: srmnonessential239x at gmail.com (Steve Miller)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 08:14:38 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Colored tabs for reports
Message-ID: <CAKkXNgo3nJivsPqdYef0HOjwsJ3G=TmYqFTsFprrXuDbtQhsdQ@mail.gmail.com>

I wish there was an option to add colors to the report tabs, similar to the
account tabs.

From lwhalen26 at gmail.com  Sun May 24 11:49:49 2026
From: lwhalen26 at gmail.com (Lawrence Whalen)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2026 11:49:49 -0400
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
Message-ID: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance on how to set up a medical
flex card that has a $600 limit, but has $50.00 deducted each month from
salary.

The flex card full amount can be used at any time the deductions will just
keep going. If it is exceeded you have to pay out of pocket.

I am trying to figure out accounts to set up and how to set a cap per se
that cannot be exceeded because once exceeded you can no longer use it.

Thank you all for any help.

Regards,

Larry

From tom.route36 at gmail.com  Sun May 24 21:00:42 2026
From: tom.route36 at gmail.com (Tom Route36)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2026 19:00:42 -0600
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db1f96e5-ddcc-4126-887c-6720a3099be3@gmail.com>

Hi Larry,

It would help to have a bit more detail about that flex card.? For 
instance, you get this $600 flex card at the beginning of the year. And 
then each month $50 is deducted from your salary to pay for the card.? 
So let's say you're lucky and have absolutely no medical expenses for 
the entire year.? What happens to that $600 flex card at year's end if 
you had no need to use it?? Do you get to keep the card and use it the 
following year?? Or does the card simply expire at the end of the year 
(and you're out the $600 you paid for it)?

I'm a bit torn between whether that $50 per month is buying some sort of 
medical insurance coverage, or if it's just a way of pre-paying your 
medical expenses.? A little more detail might help with understanding this.

Tom


On 5/24/2026 9:49 AM, Lawrence Whalen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance on how to set up a medical
> flex card that has a $600 limit, but has $50.00 deducted each month from
> salary.
>
> The flex card full amount can be used at any time the deductions will just
> keep going. If it is exceeded you have to pay out of pocket.
>
> I am trying to figure out accounts to set up and how to set a cap per se
> that cannot be exceeded because once exceeded you can no longer use it.
>
> Thank you all for any help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Larry
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From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Mon May 25 00:12:25 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 09:42:25 +0530
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>

Larry, 

That sounds a lot like a US Health Spending Account (HSA). With an HSA, a person chooses an amount that will be allocated for medical expenses the following year, and an amount is deducted from their paycheck over the year (pretax) to make up that amount. Originally, the money was lost if not spent at the end of the year, but at this time, some of that allocation can be carried over to subsequent years.

I have set up our HSA using a few accounts. There are annual accounts in equity and liability. At the beginning of the year, the full amount for the year (in your case, $600) is transferred from equity into the liability. The payroll deductions go into the liability account and reduce that balance ultimately to zero. Payments from the HSA provider go into the equity account until that account (ideally) reaches zero as well. 

I'm sure I'm missing tons here, but that's what I've got to offer. 

David T. 

On May 24, 2026 9:19:49 PM GMT+05:30, Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance on how to set up a medical
>flex card that has a $600 limit, but has $50.00 deducted each month from
>salary.
>
>The flex card full amount can be used at any time the deductions will just
>keep going. If it is exceeded you have to pay out of pocket.
>
>I am trying to figure out accounts to set up and how to set a cap per se
>that cannot be exceeded because once exceeded you can no longer use it.
>
>Thank you all for any help.
>
>Regards,
>
>Larry
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From kalpesh.patel at usa.net  Mon May 25 12:32:45 2026
From: kalpesh.patel at usa.net (Kalpesh Patel)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 12:32:45 -0400
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001dcec64$1e9de020$5bd9a060$@usa.net>

I have setup a separate liability account called FSA -- similar to HSA -- in which paycheck deduction for it decreases the FSA account. As I pay cost such as co-pay or for meds, I increase that account against FSA and second leg it against proper expense account. If all goes well then FSA account should end up close to zero at the end of year. If there is a carryover than it continues following year, but if there is no carry over or lose some due to limits on carryover then I enter a transaction against retained earning account on Dec 31st to adjust out FSA account to have proper balance on Jan 1st. 

This works for me but accounting experts might weigh in if this is in any way not a normal way to capture it.

-----Original Message-----
From: David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2026 12:12 AM
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org; Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses

Larry, 

That sounds a lot like a US Health Spending Account (HSA). With an HSA, a person chooses an amount that will be allocated for medical expenses the following year, and an amount is deducted from their paycheck over the year (pretax) to make up that amount. Originally, the money was lost if not spent at the end of the year, but at this time, some of that allocation can be carried over to subsequent years.

I have set up our HSA using a few accounts. There are annual accounts in equity and liability. At the beginning of the year, the full amount for the year (in your case, $600) is transferred from equity into the liability. The payroll deductions go into the liability account and reduce that balance ultimately to zero. Payments from the HSA provider go into the equity account until that account (ideally) reaches zero as well. 

I'm sure I'm missing tons here, but that's what I've got to offer. 

David T. 

On May 24, 2026 9:19:49 PM GMT+05:30, Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance on how to set up a medical 
>flex card that has a $600 limit, but has $50.00 deducted each month 
>from salary.
>
>The flex card full amount can be used at any time the deductions will 
>just keep going. If it is exceeded you have to pay out of pocket.
>
>I am trying to figure out accounts to set up and how to set a cap per 
>se that cannot be exceeded because once exceeded you can no longer use it.
>
>Thank you all for any help.
>
>Regards,
>
>Larry
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From stepbystepfarm at comcast.net  Mon May 25 13:18:51 2026
From: stepbystepfarm at comcast.net (Michael or Penny Novack)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 13:18:51 -0400
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <286d99f7-7385-4c18-b751-5641fb5170cf@comcast.net>

On 5/24/2026 11:49 AM, Lawrence Whalen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance on how to set up a medical
> flex card that has a $600 limit, but has $50.00 deducted each month from
> salary.
>
> The flex card full amount can be used at any time the deductions will just
> keep going. If it is exceeded you have to pay out of pocket.
>
> I am trying to figure out accounts to set up a*nd how to set a cap per se that cannot be exceeded because once 
> exceeded you can no longer use it.*

He isn't asking just how to set up the accounting for this but ALSO for 
a (non-existent) feature to ENFORCE a limit on spending from this account.

Lawrence, an accounting system is just RECORDING transactions already 
made. It isn't making those transactions. Once you realize, you should 
see that what you are asking for would be impossible for the accounting 
system to enforce*. That control would have to be on the flex card 
itself. And I bet there is one. My own HSA is "reimbursement but my 
Medicare Advantage plan has an "other benefits" card (dental, over the 
counter, vision, wellness, etc.) and simply won't allow more to be spent 
via the card than is available in the balance of each category.

Michael D Novack

* If your card allowed "overspending" the most a limit set in an 
accounting system could do is alert you that an error was made.


From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Mon May 25 13:48:02 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 23:18:02 +0530
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <CAALPpSdUpDDsfnk41a93NhZjUxxJ6=xZCAEyX40huxu7jFr1Lw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
 <CAALPpSeVi5KDXb2TfT15makDif+UR-f5yd7SXta_xk1hzMtUqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAALPpSdUpDDsfnk41a93NhZjUxxJ6=xZCAEyX40huxu7jFr1Lw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5C128718-71A1-4207-A0F0-343E4DEA1776@yahoo.com>

Larry, 

Please keep this on the list by using Reply-All. 

You most definitely can have transactions in an equity account. There's nothing special about them. 

I'll note that the assignment transaction creates negative balance in both the equity account and the liability account, due to their underlying nature. The reimbursements from the HSA go into a current account (increasing that) and are balanced by the equity account (also increasing that). 

Bear in mind that these transactions only manage HSA balances themselves (i.e., the amount you "owe" the HSA and the amount left to spend); the tracking of the different types of expense gets handled by the transactions to actual providers. And there really isn't any mechanism to track which expenses have been submitted to or paid out by the HSA. That's a headache all its own. 

As Michael noted elsewhere, there isn't a way to *enforce* a cap, although the equity account in this case gives you a sense of where you stand on that. You know you've maxed it out when the balance reaches zero. 

David T. 

On May 25, 2026 4:34:14 PM GMT+05:30, Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi both David and Tom,
>
>Sorry my email got messed up and I missed that it was Tom who asked me what
>happened to the funds. The way it works is at the end of the year you are
>asked how much you want to put into the fund then you have that available
>to you starting at the beginning of the year. If you don't use it the funds
>are lost.
>
>David if you have the funds in an equity account how do you show they are drawn
>if you use them as far as I've seen so far you can't modify or use an
>equity account in gnucash for a transaction. I will admit I am new to
>gnucash and I am not an accountant I am just trying to set up household
>finances so that we don't overspend and can plan a real budget. We used
>Excel before but that had a lot of limitations I like many things I am
>seeing in the gnucash at this point and feel it will work for us.
>
>Regards,
>
>Larry
>
>
>On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:57?AM Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> You have to use it all by the end of the year or lose it. So many times
>> use it on a pair of glasses so it is not wasted.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 12:12?AM David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> That sounds a lot like a US Health Spending Account (HSA). With an HSA, a
>>> person chooses an amount that will be allocated for medical expenses the
>>> following year, and an amount is deducted from their paycheck over the year
>>> (pretax) to make up that amount. Originally, the money was lost if not
>>> spent at the end of the year, but at this time, some of that allocation can
>>> be carried over to subsequent years.
>>>
>>> I have set up our HSA using a few accounts. There are annual accounts in
>>> equity and liability. At the beginning of the year, the full amount for the
>>> year (in your case, $600) is transferred from equity into the liability.
>>> The payroll deductions go into the liability account and reduce that
>>> balance ultimately to zero. Payments from the HSA provider go into the
>>> equity account until that account (ideally) reaches zero as well.
>>>
>>> I'm sure I'm missing tons here, but that's what I've got to offer.
>>>
>>> David T.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2026 9:19:49 PM GMT+05:30, Lawrence Whalen <
>>> lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance on how to set up a medical
>>>> flex card that has a $600 limit, but has $50.00 deducted each month from
>>>> salary.
>>>>
>>>> The flex card full amount can be used at any time the deductions will just
>>>> keep going. If it is exceeded you have to pay out of pocket.
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to figure out accounts to set up and how to set a cap per se
>>>> that cannot be exceeded because once exceeded you can no longer use it.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all for any help.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>> ------------------------------
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From ToddAndMargo at zoho.com  Tue May 26 01:36:41 2026
From: ToddAndMargo at zoho.com (ToddAndMargo)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 22:36:41 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
Message-ID: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>

Hi All,

I just got one of my credit cards hacked. (Someone
bought lunch on it in another state on one of my
cards.)

I have some vendors I need to give the new card number to
when it arrives (bill pay).  I am afraid I will miss a few.

In the "Edit Scheduled Transactions" windows, is there a
way to get gnucash to cough up what account the transactions
are coming from?

Or is there another method?

Yours in Confusion,
-T

From wm at ilipsis.net  Tue May 26 02:30:19 2026
From: wm at ilipsis.net (Wm Tarr)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 07:30:19 +0100
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
Message-ID: <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>

Probably easiest to run a transaction report on the card account to get 
a list of affected vendors.

P.S. if you are just giving vendors a new card number for the same 
account in gnc surely you don't need to change anything in gnc?

Wm


On 2026-05-26 06:36, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just got one of my credit cards hacked. (Someone
> bought lunch on it in another state on one of my
> cards.)
>
> I have some vendors I need to give the new card number to
> when it arrives (bill pay).? I am afraid I will miss a few.
>
> In the "Edit Scheduled Transactions" windows, is there a
> way to get gnucash to cough up what account the transactions
> are coming from?
>
> Or is there another method?
>
> Yours in Confusion,
> -T
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From ToddAndMargo at zoho.com  Tue May 26 03:27:36 2026
From: ToddAndMargo at zoho.com (ToddAndMargo)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 00:27:36 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
 <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
Message-ID: <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>


> 
> On 2026-05-26 06:36, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just got one of my credit cards hacked. (Someone
>> bought lunch on it in another state on one of my
>> cards.)
>>
>> I have some vendors I need to give the new card number to
>> when it arrives (bill pay).? I am afraid I will miss a few.
>>
>> In the "Edit Scheduled Transactions" windows, is there a
>> way to get gnucash to cough up what account the transactions
>> are coming from?
>>
>> Or is there another method?
>>
>> Yours in Confusion,
>> -T

On 5/25/26 11:30 PM, Wm Tarr wrote:
 > Probably easiest to run a transaction report on the card account to get
 > a list of affected vendors.
 >
 > P.S. if you are just giving vendors a new card number for the same
 > account in gnc surely you don't need to change anything in gnc?
 >
 > Wm

I am still a bit new to gnc.  How do I do a "transaction
report?

Oh no change to gnc.  I am trying to make sure any any
pay charges do not bounce.

From tom.route36 at gmail.com  Tue May 26 04:38:31 2026
From: tom.route36 at gmail.com (Tom Route36)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 02:38:31 -0600
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
 <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
 <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>
Message-ID: <c7f5afa7-08fb-482d-990d-66f8f125ca06@gmail.com>

Hi Todd,

It's fairly easy.? From the top GnuCash menu bar, select *Reports*. From 
the drop-down menu select *Transaction Report*.? That will open a report 
tab saying "/No accounts selected/".? Click the link in that tab to 
"*Edit report options*".? On the *General *tab of options, specify 
whatever reporting period you want. Probably in your case that might be 
the start of this year until today.? Then in the window of options 
select the *Accounts *tab and specify your credit card account.? Once 
you've got those options set, then click the *Apply *button at the 
bottom of the options window.? You should then see a Transaction Report 
of your credit card transactions for the period you specified.

Hope this helps,
Tom


On 5/26/2026 1:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
>
> I am still a bit new to gnc.? How do I do a "transaction
> report?
>
> Oh no change to gnc.? I am trying to make sure any any
> pay charges do not bounce.
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From ToddAndMargo at zoho.com  Tue May 26 16:09:04 2026
From: ToddAndMargo at zoho.com (ToddAndMargo)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 13:09:04 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <c7f5afa7-08fb-482d-990d-66f8f125ca06@gmail.com>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
 <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
 <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>
 <c7f5afa7-08fb-482d-990d-66f8f125ca06@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <72023dc4-7de3-4a4d-ac6d-41ed82370511@zoho.com>

> On 5/26/2026 1:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
>>
>> I am still a bit new to gnc.? How do I do a "transaction
>> report?
>>
>> Oh no change to gnc.? I am trying to make sure any any
>> pay charges do not bounce.
On 5/26/26 1:38 AM, Tom Route36 wrote:
 > Hi Todd,
 >
 > It's fairly easy.  From the top GnuCash menu bar, select *Reports*. From
 > the drop-down menu select *Transaction Report*.  That will open a report
 > tab saying "/No accounts selected/".  Click the link in that tab to
 > "*Edit report options*".  On the *General *tab of options, specify
 > whatever reporting period you want. Probably in your case that might be
 > the start of this year until today.  Then in the window of options
 > select the *Accounts *tab and specify your credit card account.  Once
 > you've got those options set, then click the *Apply *button at the
 > bottom of the options window.  You should then see a Transaction Report
 > of your credit card transactions for the period you specified.
 >
 > Hope this helps,
 > Tom
 >

Thank you!

From dlgray4943 at gmail.com  Tue May 26 11:19:34 2026
From: dlgray4943 at gmail.com (David Gray)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 10:19:34 -0500
Subject: [GNC] How do I transfer all gnucash data files?
Message-ID: <CAFhhWYM3qbcmZAsC-KtOi6BgmxYD9-VWcXvsu61a3+rT5L=+Gw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I have been using GnuCash to manage a Non-Profit Organization for several
years.
Now I am in the process of training an under-study to assume my Treasurer
role, so I want to share my GnuCash Data files with him.

To facilitate the process, I want to copy my GnuCash data files to a thumb
drive AND have my understudy download the GnuCash program onto his PC.
Then, if I'm correct, all I need to do is copy my thumb drive data files
onto his PC and my understudy should be ready to begin managing the
Non-Profit, right?

Questions:
1. *How can I be sure* that I have collected ALL of the necessary data
files?
2. Do the data files need to be stored in a particular location relative to
the GnuCash Program files?
3. Do you have any other insights on this process that I might have
overlooked?


Thank you,
David Gray

From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 26 17:42:51 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 16:42:51 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <CAOthWL1cmf6c1uHQJM3_P2VZ=9xZE3oKfQ_OAq-QswaZEXJKZg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <565685F1-FFDD-4245-9B0F-1A3CB818C755@gmail.com>
 <CAOthWL1cmf6c1uHQJM3_P2VZ=9xZE3oKfQ_OAq-QswaZEXJKZg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10v5451$66d$1@ciao.gmane.io>

And that's why I either do not update, or only update apps that have 
indicated they will not use it for development or take PRs generated by 
such means.

I don't have time to police source code for every app I use. I don't 
have time to learn various languages and patterns in order to do so. If 
the maintainers and project leads haven't explicitly rejected so-called 
'AI' for their app, I simply will freeze it at an older version, or find 
an alternative app.

Fancy dashboards are nice toys to me. They are not a requirement and 
there are other solutions.

If I have no other choices at some point, I'll use a machine with no 
network connection, and baring that, go back to pen and paper. (though 
thankfully, any old & current version of GnuCash will work just fine for 
me needs for as long as I have working hardware.)

I don't succumb to the 'this crappy thing is ubiquitous now, accept it 
into your life and embrace it' crowd. No, no I will not.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/21/26 11:32 PM, flywire wrote:
>> I'm not interested in any code in any way written by a chat bot.
> 
> Adrien, I really understand your concern, but AI-assisted development is
> now part of modern software, including much of what you use. Fortunately,
> with open source everything is auditable so you and the community can
> review and test then you can decide for yourself whether to use it.


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 26 17:56:59 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 16:56:59 -0500
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <5C128718-71A1-4207-A0F0-343E4DEA1776@yahoo.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
 <CAALPpSeVi5KDXb2TfT15makDif+UR-f5yd7SXta_xk1hzMtUqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAALPpSdUpDDsfnk41a93NhZjUxxJ6=xZCAEyX40huxu7jFr1Lw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5C128718-71A1-4207-A0F0-343E4DEA1776@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10v54vi$kok$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Larry,

Just to clarify because I've seen this general topic before: (on not 
being able to enter certain transactions)

You can't enter transactions in the Top-Level accounts because they are 
placeholders. Placeholders are just that, they hold place in the account 
tree, but are not usable accounts that can hold transactions.

All of the Top-Level accounts: Assets, Expenses, Income, Liabilities, 
Equity & Trading, are Placeholder accounts. Users have to create 
sub-accounts under these placeholders as types that match them. (it *is* 
possible to have mis-matched types in the tree, but not recommended)

You can also create your own sub-account placeholders at various points 
in your account tree. Those can't hold transactions either.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/25/26 12:48 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> You most definitely can have transactions in an equity account. There's nothing special about them.

> On May 25, 2026 4:34:14 PM GMT+05:30, Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:

>> David if you have the funds in an equity account how do you show they are drawn
>> if you use them as far as I've seen so far you can't modify or use an
>> equity account in gnucash for a transaction.


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 26 18:04:58 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 17:04:58 -0500
Subject: [GNC] How do I transfer all gnucash data files?
In-Reply-To: <CAFhhWYM3qbcmZAsC-KtOi6BgmxYD9-VWcXvsu61a3+rT5L=+Gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFhhWYM3qbcmZAsC-KtOi6BgmxYD9-VWcXvsu61a3+rT5L=+Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10v55ei$i6k$1@ciao.gmane.io>

David,

The FAQ on the wiki concerning Backups will lead you to this wiki page:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup

This will give you the complete overview of where files are located and 
help you decide which files you want to preserve and migrate for each 
operating system.

Also have a look at the answers for this topic about multiple computers 
as that may pertain to you during the transition:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Multiple_Computers.2C_Users.2C_...

 From both of those you will find that the data file (there is generally 
just one) is not location dependent per OS. You decide where you want to 
store it.

The preferences & reports on the other hand, along with any 
customizations are a different matter. The above wiki links will assist 
you on that front.

Otherwise, just be sure for simplicity's sake, to use the same major 
version of GnuCash on both systems. (even same minor version would be 
best, but not required) This will come in handy while trying to tutor 
your under-study as there won't be any differences between your app 
versions.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/26/26 10:19 AM, David Gray wrote:
> Hello,
> I have been using GnuCash to manage a Non-Profit Organization for several
> years.
> Now I am in the process of training an under-study to assume my Treasurer
> role, so I want to share my GnuCash Data files with him.
> 
> To facilitate the process, I want to copy my GnuCash data files to a thumb
> drive AND have my understudy download the GnuCash program onto his PC.
> Then, if I'm correct, all I need to do is copy my thumb drive data files
> onto his PC and my understudy should be ready to begin managing the
> Non-Profit, right?
> 
> Questions:
> 1. *How can I be sure* that I have collected ALL of the necessary data
> files?
> 2. Do the data files need to be stored in a particular location relative to
> the GnuCash Program files?
> 3. Do you have any other insights on this process that I might have
> overlooked?


From ToddAndMargo at zoho.com  Tue May 26 19:07:38 2026
From: ToddAndMargo at zoho.com (ToddAndMargo)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 16:07:38 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <c7f5afa7-08fb-482d-990d-66f8f125ca06@gmail.com>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
 <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
 <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>
 <c7f5afa7-08fb-482d-990d-66f8f125ca06@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3d9f2044-66ea-4060-aa89-c3e2aa985f3a@zoho.com>

 > On 5/26/2026 1:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
 >>
 >> I am still a bit new to gnc.  How do I do a "transaction
 >> report?
 >>
 >> Oh no change to gnc.  I am trying to make sure any any
 >> pay charges do not bounce.

On 5/26/26 1:38 AM, Tom Route36 wrote:
> Hi Todd,
> 
> It's fairly easy.? From the top GnuCash menu bar, select *Reports*. From 
> the drop-down menu select *Transaction Report*.? That will open a report 
> tab saying "/No accounts selected/".? Click the link in that tab to 
> "*Edit report options*".? On the *General *tab of options, specify 
> whatever reporting period you want. Probably in your case that might be 
> the start of this year until today.? Then in the window of options 
> select the *Accounts *tab and specify your credit card account.? Once 
> you've got those options set, then click the *Apply *button at the 
> bottom of the options window.? You should then see a Transaction Report 
> of your credit card transactions for the period you specified.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Tom
I can't figure out how to get the report to show
only "Scheduled Transactions"

From apowell656 at gmail.com  Tue May 26 19:18:21 2026
From: apowell656 at gmail.com (Andre Powell)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 19:18:21 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <3d9f2044-66ea-4060-aa89-c3e2aa985f3a@zoho.com>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
 <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
 <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>
 <c7f5afa7-08fb-482d-990d-66f8f125ca06@gmail.com>
 <3d9f2044-66ea-4060-aa89-c3e2aa985f3a@zoho.com>
Message-ID: <5DF141D4-C039-46B6-99D0-5EF4F673956F@gmail.com>

Reports -> Future Scheduled Transactions Summary

-  Under the report options the default accounts should get you along the way
- (If I am understanding what you are asking for) change the start and end date of the report 

Regards,
Andre

> On May 26, 2026, at 7:07?PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 5/26/2026 1:27 AM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
> >>
> >> I am still a bit new to gnc.  How do I do a "transaction
> >> report?
> >>
> >> Oh no change to gnc.  I am trying to make sure any any
> >> pay charges do not bounce.
> 
> On 5/26/26 1:38 AM, Tom Route36 wrote:
>> Hi Todd,
>> It's fairly easy.  From the top GnuCash menu bar, select *Reports*. From the drop-down menu select *Transaction Report*.  That will open a report tab saying "/No accounts selected/".  Click the link in that tab to "*Edit report options*".  On the *General *tab of options, specify whatever reporting period you want. Probably in your case that might be the start of this year until today.  Then in the window of options select the *Accounts *tab and specify your credit card account.  Once you've got those options set, then click the *Apply *button at the bottom of the options window.  You should then see a Transaction Report of your credit card transactions for the period you specified.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Tom
> I can't figure out how to get the report to show
> only "Scheduled Transactions"
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From jralls at ceridwen.us  Tue May 26 21:10:30 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 21:10:30 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <10v5451$66d$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <565685F1-FFDD-4245-9B0F-1A3CB818C755@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <37D0B2C4-6C05-4D5F-BC62-EC558B81B329@ceridwen.us>

Adrien,

I think you?re being a bit too absolute. While we did get a few PRs full of AI slop a couple of weeks ago (not sure what the submitter was up to, most of the time he closed the PR a few minutes after opening it) and I banned the submitter after a week, other submitters?including Chris Lam?use AI responsibly to help them code. I haven?t yet started to do that, but I probably will soon. Responsible use isn?t vibe-coding: The developer has to understand the result and review it for correctness and sound design. 

You can be sure that every major professional shop, Apple, Google, Microsoft, and the rest, are already moving quickly in that direction. No doubt you?ve seen the hype about Anthropic?s Mythos finding hundreds of bugs and being ?too dangerous? to release generally. It won?t take long for that level of capability to come from other frontier labs. OpenAI is already claiming that they have it and they?re not restricting release. The Firefox folks say they?ve fixed everything that Mythos found and they also used AI assistants to get the fixes done as quickly as possible.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 26, 2026, at 17:42, Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
> And that's why I either do not update, or only update apps that have indicated they will not use it for development or take PRs generated by such means.
> 
> I don't have time to police source code for every app I use. I don't have time to learn various languages and patterns in order to do so. If the maintainers and project leads haven't explicitly rejected so-called 'AI' for their app, I simply will freeze it at an older version, or find an alternative app.
> 
> Fancy dashboards are nice toys to me. They are not a requirement and there are other solutions.
> 
> If I have no other choices at some point, I'll use a machine with no network connection, and baring that, go back to pen and paper. (though thankfully, any old & current version of GnuCash will work just fine for me needs for as long as I have working hardware.)
> 
> I don't succumb to the 'this crappy thing is ubiquitous now, accept it into your life and embrace it' crowd. No, no I will not.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 5/21/26 11:32 PM, flywire wrote:
>>> I'm not interested in any code in any way written by a chat bot.
>> Adrien, I really understand your concern, but AI-assisted development is
>> now part of modern software, including much of what you use. Fortunately,
>> with open source everything is auditable so you and the community can
>> review and test then you can decide for yourself whether to use it.
> 
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From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Tue May 26 21:41:06 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 20:41:06 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <37D0B2C4-6C05-4D5F-BC62-EC558B81B329@ceridwen.us>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <565685F1-FFDD-4245-9B0F-1A3CB818C755@gmail.com>
 <CAOthWL1cmf6c1uHQJM3_P2VZ=9xZE3oKfQ_OAq-QswaZEXJKZg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <10v5i3p$b3e$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Thanks John,

I understand. I'm following these developments closely. But I'm opting 
out as much as possible for now. Things may smooth out and become more 
rational at some point, but I'm not a bandwagon or Tulip Mania sort of 
fella.

This tech isn't what people think it is, and certainly not what its 
marketers claim it to be. (especially the ones fear mongering that they 
don't understand it themselves - that's pure conjob level stuff) They 
might get lucky and succeed in 'faking it until they make it' but I'm 
not holding my breath. These are not answer machines, and I simply do 
not see how or why probabilistic word generators should be used for 
anything but novelty kicks and entertainment, no matter how fantastical 
they appear to be.

Certainly, giving up individual agency is irresponsible and just plain 
nuts. I don't think these systems are dangerous in themselves. The 
danger lies in mistaking them, and using them, for something they are not.

I trusted the GnuCash team to not do so, but now that I know ya'll are 
already using this, that trust is challenged. I'm sure this isn't the 
only project in that boat. (indeed, I'm aware of Mozilla's use of it.)

Lots of folks and companies are being stung and bitten in the backside. 
That's going to continue for some time. I'm not interested in being 
collateral damage in the interim and want no part, as much as I can 
avoid or excise it, in anything to do with this tech. I'm going to sit 
this one out, watch the bubble burst, the mania subside, and ride out 
the destructive wake as best I can.

A full-disclosure of a breakpoint version/minor-version would 
respectfully be appreciated.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/26/26 8:10 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> Adrien,
> 
> I think you?re being a bit too absolute. While we did get a few PRs full of AI slop a couple of weeks ago (not sure what the submitter was up to, most of the time he closed the PR a few minutes after opening it) and I banned the submitter after a week, other submitters?including Chris Lam?use AI responsibly to help them code. I haven?t yet started to do that, but I probably will soon. Responsible use isn?t vibe-coding: The developer has to understand the result and review it for correctness and sound design.
> 
> You can be sure that every major professional shop, Apple, Google, Microsoft, and the rest, are already moving quickly in that direction. No doubt you?ve seen the hype about Anthropic?s Mythos finding hundreds of bugs and being ?too dangerous? to release generally. It won?t take long for that level of capability to come from other frontier labs. OpenAI is already claiming that they have it and they?re not restricting release. The Firefox folks say they?ve fixed everything that Mythos found and they also used AI assistants to get the fixes done as quickly as possible.


From pjcoll at comcast.net  Tue May 26 20:42:57 2026
From: pjcoll at comcast.net (Paul Collacchi)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 17:42:57 -0700
Subject: [GNC] DB "save as" not working
Message-ID: <026501dced71$c4196c00$4c4c4400$@comcast.net>

Never used this mailing list, so I hope I'm doing it right.

 

I run gnucash 2.6.1 over mysql.  I have several financial databases.  When I
use "save as" to create backups of two of the (smaller) db's, it seems to
work fine, but when I do it using the largest and most complex db, the
underlying mysql  db folder gets created but neither mysql workbench or
gnucash shows any data in the empty schema.  Thoughts.  

 

(Please don't tell me to upgrade if "save as" should work on 2.6.1).  A work
around would be any reasonable way to copy the database with a new name.
I've tried literally copying the mysql db folder, but apparently mysql
stores the db name somewhere in the schema so mysql doesn't recognize the
copied instance as a mysql db. Yes, I do back up every night, but I'm hoping
to use an online copy of the db as a sandbox that I can run simultaneously
alongside the live db.

 

Paul Collacchi


From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Tue May 26 23:36:20 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 09:06:20 +0530
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <10v54vi$kok$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
 <CAALPpSeVi5KDXb2TfT15makDif+UR-f5yd7SXta_xk1hzMtUqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAALPpSdUpDDsfnk41a93NhZjUxxJ6=xZCAEyX40huxu7jFr1Lw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5C128718-71A1-4207-A0F0-343E4DEA1776@yahoo.com>
 <10v54vi$kok$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Message-ID: <E5E12A47-E59A-4965-9012-7B6F489E085D@yahoo.com>

And, since we're in a clarifying mode, I'll note that placeholder accounts most certainly can contain transactions. You just can't (generally speaking*) add new transactions to a placeholder account. 

I have dozens of placeholder accounts with transactions in them-- for example, accounts that have been closed. Setting an account as a placeholder ensures that the account doesn't display in transfer account drop down windows. 

David T. 

* I've encountered corner cases where an action created a transaction in a placeholder account. I don't recall these at this moment. 

On May 27, 2026 3:26:59 AM GMT+05:30, Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>Larry,
>
>Just to clarify because I've seen this general topic before: (on not being able to enter certain transactions)
>
>You can't enter transactions in the Top-Level accounts because they are placeholders. Placeholders are just that, they hold place in the account tree, but are not usable accounts that can hold transactions.
>
>All of the Top-Level accounts: Assets, Expenses, Income, Liabilities, Equity & Trading, are Placeholder accounts. Users have to create sub-accounts under these placeholders as types that match them. (it *is* possible to have mis-matched types in the tree, but not recommended)
>
>You can also create your own sub-account placeholders at various points in your account tree. Those can't hold transactions either.
>
>Regards,
>Adrien
>
>On 5/25/26 12:48 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
>> You most definitely can have transactions in an equity account. There's nothing special about them.
>
>> On May 25, 2026 4:34:14 PM GMT+05:30, Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> David if you have the funds in an equity account how do you show they are drawn
>>> if you use them as far as I've seen so far you can't modify or use an
>>> equity account in gnucash for a transaction.
>
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From tydeman.fred at gmail.com  Tue May 26 23:47:54 2026
From: tydeman.fred at gmail.com (Fred Tydeman)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 11:47:54 +0800
Subject: [GNC] Placeholder account
Message-ID: <CAK1r+o1d392ztMnXvzw4w4wVYSf6ZEjnX5JbF2NLmVUajQRe+w@mail.gmail.com>

I believe that Import QIF will put transactions into a Placeholder account.

From ToddAndMargo at zoho.com  Tue May 26 23:57:12 2026
From: ToddAndMargo at zoho.com (ToddAndMargo)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 20:57:12 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <5DF141D4-C039-46B6-99D0-5EF4F673956F@gmail.com>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
 <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
 <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>
 <c7f5afa7-08fb-482d-990d-66f8f125ca06@gmail.com>
 <3d9f2044-66ea-4060-aa89-c3e2aa985f3a@zoho.com>
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Message-ID: <60e10f75-7f94-45b7-b03f-0091d867875e@zoho.com>

On 5/26/26 4:18 PM, Andre Powell wrote:
> Reports -> Future Scheduled Transactions Summary


I need "past" scheduled transactions

From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Wed May 27 00:31:49 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 23:31:49 -0500
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <E5E12A47-E59A-4965-9012-7B6F489E085D@yahoo.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
 <CAALPpSeVi5KDXb2TfT15makDif+UR-f5yd7SXta_xk1hzMtUqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAALPpSdUpDDsfnk41a93NhZjUxxJ6=xZCAEyX40huxu7jFr1Lw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5C128718-71A1-4207-A0F0-343E4DEA1776@yahoo.com>
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 <E5E12A47-E59A-4965-9012-7B6F489E085D@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10v5s3r$15gk$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Indeed. Accounts which contain transactions and are later changed to 
placeholders retain those transactions.

I think the case of placeholders sometimes getting new transactions was 
either from Scheduled Transactions or Imports. But I seem to recall that 
was considered a bugs, and is now fixed. Though I could be mistaken.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/26/26 10:36 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> And, since we're in a clarifying mode, I'll note that placeholder accounts most certainly can contain transactions. You just can't (generally speaking*) add new transactions to a placeholder account.
> 
> I have dozens of placeholder accounts with transactions in them-- for example, accounts that have been closed. Setting an account as a placeholder ensures that the account doesn't display in transfer account drop down windows.
> 
> David T.
> 
> * I've encountered corner cases where an action created a transaction in a placeholder account. I don't recall these at this moment.


From adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net  Wed May 27 00:36:35 2026
From: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net (Adrien Monteleone)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 23:36:35 -0500
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <60e10f75-7f94-45b7-b03f-0091d867875e@zoho.com>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
 <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
 <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>
 <c7f5afa7-08fb-482d-990d-66f8f125ca06@gmail.com>
 <3d9f2044-66ea-4060-aa89-c3e2aa985f3a@zoho.com>
 <5DF141D4-C039-46B6-99D0-5EF4F673956F@gmail.com>
 <60e10f75-7f94-45b7-b03f-0091d867875e@zoho.com>
Message-ID: <10v5scq$144l$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Past Scheduled Transactions are already committed transactions. And 
there is no special designation for them once created.

A regular Transaction Report will show them, but short of editing each 
one for those vendors with a special tag and filtering off it, there is 
no way to view them only.

You could look at the vendors for whom you have scheduled transactions 
that would cover the date range in question, then perform a Transaction 
Report for only those vendors across that date range as long as the 
vendor name appears somewhere in the transaction. (usually 'Description' 
as 'Payee')

Or,

Do a Find on your Credit Card account to match those vendors (multiple 
criteria are possible) for said date range (or the entire book) and then 
run Reports > Account Report when viewing the Find results.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/26/26 10:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
> On 5/26/26 4:18 PM, Andre Powell wrote:
>> Reports -> Future Scheduled Transactions Summary
> 
> 
> I need "past" scheduled transactions


From ToddAndMargo at zoho.com  Wed May 27 04:18:54 2026
From: ToddAndMargo at zoho.com (ToddAndMargo)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 01:18:54 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Edit Scheduled Transactions question
In-Reply-To: <10v5scq$144l$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <c5cfa2f6-df0e-450e-9998-45b2b8665b08@zoho.com>
 <15c82441-e2f4-468d-8def-949b589dda75@ilipsis.net>
 <2d42c5be-44e0-4193-8a3d-af61b91325d2@zoho.com>
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 <3d9f2044-66ea-4060-aa89-c3e2aa985f3a@zoho.com>
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Message-ID: <1f731dcb-6419-4af0-b461-7f4a66e59d48@zoho.com>

On 5/26/26 9:36 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> Past Scheduled Transactions are already committed transactions. And 
> there is no special designation for them once created.
> 
> A regular Transaction Report will show them, but short of editing each 
> one for those vendors with a special tag and filtering off it, there is 
> no way to view them only.
> 
> You could look at the vendors for whom you have scheduled transactions 
> that would cover the date range in question, then perform a Transaction 
> Report for only those vendors across that date range as long as the 
> vendor name appears somewhere in the transaction. (usually 'Description' 
> as 'Payee')
> 
> Or,
> 
> Do a Find on your Credit Card account to match those vendors (multiple 
> criteria are possible) for said date range (or the entire book) and then 
> run Reports > Account Report when viewing the Find results.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 5/26/26 10:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:
>> On 5/26/26 4:18 PM, Andre Powell wrote:
>>> Reports -> Future Scheduled Transactions Summary
>>
>>
>> I need "past" scheduled transactions

Found it.   In the Scheduled Transactions, Templates, I had to
open up the box to the right of the notes box.  This showed me
from and to.   My box opened up squished with only one letter
showing.

From ahk at chinet.com  Wed May 27 08:14:16 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 07:14:16 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Placeholder account
In-Reply-To: <CAK1r+o1d392ztMnXvzw4w4wVYSf6ZEjnX5JbF2NLmVUajQRe+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK1r+o1d392ztMnXvzw4w4wVYSf6ZEjnX5JbF2NLmVUajQRe+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ss6639p9-o2s7-8s5o-p12p-79s80p5q270r@puvarg.pbz>

10:47pm -0000 05/26/26 Fred Tydeman <tydeman.fred at gmail.com> wrote:

>I believe that Import QIF will put transactions into a Placeholder account.

What is the context for this remark?

Is there no way to modify the Chart of Accounts prior to output so it 
matched the COA of the file receiving the input? Surely one would need to do 
that.

From tydeman.fred at gmail.com  Wed May 27 08:43:17 2026
From: tydeman.fred at gmail.com (Fred Tydeman)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 20:43:17 +0800
Subject: [GNC] Placeholder account
In-Reply-To: <ss6639p9-o2s7-8s5o-p12p-79s80p5q270r@puvarg.pbz>
References: <CAK1r+o1d392ztMnXvzw4w4wVYSf6ZEjnX5JbF2NLmVUajQRe+w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAK1r+o2kLa_Y4Yqd_PiYbZymrDdDW9F+pR-cLAOc8TNtvDt95A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 8:14?PM Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:

> 10:47pm -0000 05/26/26 Fred Tydeman <tydeman.fred at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I believe that Import QIF will put transactions into a Placeholder
> account.
>
> What is the context for this remark?
>

Someone recently said that transactions cannot be in a Placeholder account.
I have had it happen to me doing an Import of a QIF file.


> Is there no way to modify the Chart of Accounts prior to output so it
> matched the COA of the file receiving the input? Surely one would need to
> do
> that.


The old Quicken file COA cannot match the GnuCash COA.
I need to edit where GnuCash is putting the transactions during the Import
process.
(but do not always notice which ones need to be edited).

From jralls at ceridwen.us  Wed May 27 09:32:59 2026
From: jralls at ceridwen.us (John Ralls)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 09:32:59 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <10v5i3p$b3e$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
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> On May 26, 2026, at 21:41, Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
> I simply do not see how or why probabilistic word generators should be used for anything but novelty kicks and entertainment

There?s enough code and commentary about the code on the web that the probability of generating what the user is asking for very high, as long as the user is very specific about what they want, doesn?t ask for too much at once, and carefully reviews and corrects the results. An LLM can ?type? a million or more times faster than a human can, so once the user gets adept at writing good prompts the process is is much faster than writing the code oneself. I?ve heard/read many senior devs describe it as programming rocket fuel.

Regards,
John Ralls


From derek at ihtfp.com  Wed May 27 09:44:32 2026
From: derek at ihtfp.com (Derek Atkins)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 09:44:32 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <1D249DAF-1943-48E0-ADF5-1913F6A8F7F0@ceridwen.us>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <10v5i3p$b3e$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <1D249DAF-1943-48E0-ADF5-1913F6A8F7F0@ceridwen.us>
Message-ID: <07d9754cbe010fa1dadd1a401b469e95.squirrel@mail.ihtfp.org>

Adrien,

On Wed, May 27, 2026 9:32 am, John Ralls wrote:
>
>
>> On May 26, 2026, at 21:41, Adrien Monteleone
>> <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>>
>> I simply do not see how or why probabilistic word generators should be
>> used for anything but novelty kicks and entertainment
>
> There?s enough code and commentary about the code on the web that the
> probability of generating what the user is asking for very high, as long
> as the user is very specific about what they want, doesn?t ask for too
> much at once, and carefully reviews and corrects the results. An LLM can
> ?type? a million or more times faster than a human can, so once the user
> gets adept at writing good prompts the process is is much faster than
> writing the code oneself. I?ve heard/read many senior devs describe it as
> programming rocket fuel.

There is a wide gap between "vibe coding" and using AI to help speed up
development.  The former is a non-programmer going to an AI and saying
"write me an app that does X" and lets the AI make all the technical
decisions.  In this scenario the driver has no clue what the AI is
producing (and doesn't specifically care).  So yes, mistakes can (and
will!) be made in the process.  I agree, this is dangerous.

The second scenario is very different.  It's when a seasoned coder tells
an AI something like "build me a DAO class for a new table, foo, that
contains the following fields:  id (uuid), name (text), ....".  (NB: this
prompt itself already has too little information but I don't feel like
typing it out).  In this case the AI can absolutely create the code in
seconds, whereas a human would take a day or two to type it!  It's an
accelerator.

I've spent most of the last year coding with the help of an AI.  It's
changed how I work; instead of spending my time writing code I spend most
of my time either writing specs/prompts and/or reviewing the code/changes
that the AI generated.  I would NEVER EVER blindly accept the code output
without reviewing it.  I spend much of my time in "git diff".

Having said that, I've seen the evolution of the tools over the past
year...  I think in another 3-5 the tools might be to a place where a less
seasoned developer could drive without fear of coding mistakes.  Or at
least less fear thereof.

If you're still 100% writing code by hand, these days, you are defintely
going to be considered "slow" -- regardless of how fast you can type!

Just my $0.02.

> Regards,
> John Ralls

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From apowell656 at gmail.com  Wed May 27 09:56:50 2026
From: apowell656 at gmail.com (Andre Powell)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 09:56:50 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <1D249DAF-1943-48E0-ADF5-1913F6A8F7F0@ceridwen.us>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
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A few things.

I added the disclaimer out of respect for the community and the developers.
I have been a professional developer for close to twenty years, and I
largely echo John's perspective. He is spot on about larger shops adopting
these tools already (one of my sons is a developer at one of the companies
he listed and they are using LLMs internally).

Years ago I was a carpenter, and I carried an Estwing California framing
hammer that I absolutely loved. I could drive a 16d nail with one swing,
but that took practice. I was also the type of guy who reluctantly used a
nail gun while still recognizing its effectiveness. Over time, I used my
hammer less and less.

The end result did not really change, and nobody ever asked whether I used
a hammer or a nail gun. That is roughly where I am at with LLM tools.

They are a tool, and I still need to understand the outcome. Does it work?
Does it introduce issues? Can I maintain it? For this particular project,
time was also a factor. I already knew the software I wanted to use, but I
needed additional functionality.

Reports felt like a relatively benign area to experiment while also helping
me understand some of the inner workings of both GnuCash and Scheme.

I still believe individual responsibility and understanding matter. I am
ultimately accountable for the code, whether I typed every character
manually or not.

I understand your perspective and your choice not to use the reports. At
the end of the day, I was simply trying to share something with the
community that might help someone else in a similar position.

Regards,

Andre

On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 9:34?AM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:

>
>
> > On May 26, 2026, at 21:41, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> > I simply do not see how or why probabilistic word generators should be
> used for anything but novelty kicks and entertainment
>
> There?s enough code and commentary about the code on the web that the
> probability of generating what the user is asking for very high, as long as
> the user is very specific about what they want, doesn?t ask for too much at
> once, and carefully reviews and corrects the results. An LLM can ?type? a
> million or more times faster than a human can, so once the user gets adept
> at writing good prompts the process is is much faster than writing the code
> oneself. I?ve heard/read many senior devs describe it as programming rocket
> fuel.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
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From pyz01 at outlook.com  Wed May 27 09:59:52 2026
From: pyz01 at outlook.com (Ken Pyzik)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 13:59:52 +0000
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
In-Reply-To: <1D249DAF-1943-48E0-ADF5-1913F6A8F7F0@ceridwen.us>
References: <CAOthWL1EyeZX-r7ehFcDZeNOYi2EtuAS8nk3L4DsZXrARXL2yw@mail.gmail.com>
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John - Agree 100%.  Having been in IT development for many years, what is absolutely the best is the ability to do super-fast debugging.  LLMs can spot a misspelled command or a missed { or [ or a logic mismatch a zillions times faster than anyone can.  And as you said, it writes the code a zillion times faster than any of us ever could.

Ken

________________________________
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2026 6:32 AM
To: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
Cc: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community



> On May 26, 2026, at 21:41, Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
> I simply do not see how or why probabilistic word generators should be used for anything but novelty kicks and entertainment

There?s enough code and commentary about the code on the web that the probability of generating what the user is asking for very high, as long as the user is very specific about what they want, doesn?t ask for too much at once, and carefully reviews and corrects the results. An LLM can ?type? a million or more times faster than a human can, so once the user gets adept at writing good prompts the process is is much faster than writing the code oneself. I?ve heard/read many senior devs describe it as programming rocket fuel.

Regards,
John Ralls

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From phsfca.hermes at gmail.com  Wed May 27 15:23:36 2026
From: phsfca.hermes at gmail.com (ph hermes)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 12:23:36 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
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i wasn't going to respond as i'm not a coder at all. my concerns are with
trusting the results and focus on humans.

i've been online since the 80s and wrote web sites on note pad. but i'm not
a coder. i think there are uses for ai as a tool ... i keep thinking of
large closed data sets: legal and medical, but they aren't doing so great
in those areas. also with the costs skyrocketing, i don't see the future
being for all of us. and we'll still need humans as several of you describe
your work, to check it, to know what  + how to ask questions in the right
way. i don't want to learn how to do that.

2ndly, search is terrible now. it doesn't even asnswer my search terms. it
has decided it knows what i really want to ask, and often it's not what i
wanted to know. it took me several tries to find out my father's date of
death (couldn't remember if is was 2001 or 2002) and google couldn't find
it. everything is now feeding on slop.

so i'm at least halfway with adrien, knowing i can't avoid it, knowing it
will be good for something, but not everything, and trying to go more
analog with everything i can (and not be stupid about it).

thanks for a great conversation.


     - ph
~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~
paula hendricks ~:~ san francisco CA ~:~ 415.310.1168


On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 7:00?AM Ken Pyzik <pyz01 at outlook.com> wrote:

> John - Agree 100%.  Having been in IT development for many years, what is
> absolutely the best is the ability to do super-fast debugging.  LLMs can
> spot a misspelled command or a missed { or [ or a logic mismatch a zillions
> times faster than anyone can.  And as you said, it writes the code a
> zillion times faster than any of us ever could.
>
> Ken
>
> ________________________________
> From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+pyz01=outlook.com at gnucash.org>
> on behalf of John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2026 6:32 AM
> To: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> Cc: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Sharing Some Changes With the GnuCash Community
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 2026, at 21:41, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> > I simply do not see how or why probabilistic word generators should be
> used for anything but novelty kicks and entertainment
>
> There?s enough code and commentary about the code on the web that the
> probability of generating what the user is asking for very high, as long as
> the user is very specific about what they want, doesn?t ask for too much at
> once, and carefully reviews and corrects the results. An LLM can ?type? a
> million or more times faster than a human can, so once the user gets adept
> at writing good prompts the process is is much faster than writing the code
> oneself. I?ve heard/read many senior devs describe it as programming rocket
> fuel.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
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From pub08-gnc at davor.org  Wed May 27 20:08:12 2026
From: pub08-gnc at davor.org (Eric S)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 20:08:12 -0400
Subject: [GNC] How do I transfer all gnucash data files?
In-Reply-To: <CAFhhWYM3qbcmZAsC-KtOi6BgmxYD9-VWcXvsu61a3+rT5L=+Gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFhhWYM3qbcmZAsC-KtOi6BgmxYD9-VWcXvsu61a3+rT5L=+Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aheHbGpUY9I5Mk8c@shekere.davor.org>

On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 10:19:34AM -0500, David Gray wrote:
> Now I am in the process of training an under-study [...]
> so I want to share my GnuCash Data files with him.
> 
> I want to copy my GnuCash data files to a thumb drive
>
> [...]
>
> 3. Do you have any other insights on this process that I might have
> overlooked?

Two things.  First:  Be aware that your data file,
WHATEVER.gnucash, has backups in the same directory called
WHATEVER.gnucash.YYYYMMDDHHMMSS.gnucash .  The backups are great
in case the main file gets trashed (due to either computer issues
or the user's mistakes), but at almost any given moment, the
backups will be out of date.  A question that shows up here
sometimes is, "Why are my latest transactions missing?" and the
answer is sometimes, "you were editing a backup, not the main
file."

Second thing: During the training/handover period, I presume
you'll both be working on the organization's books.  If so,
you'll need to be super careful to avoid both working on them *at
the same time*; you need to take turns.

Otherwise you could easily find yourself in a situation where
you've each made changes (entered transactions, say) to your own
copy, and now your and your understudy's versions of the books
have diverged, with each containing work that's missing from the
other.

Recovering from that is doable, but it's Not Fun!

I haven't had that arise with GnuCash specifically, but only
because I've only ever used it on my own.  The situation happens
often enough in general -- with word-processor documents,
spreadsheets, or whatever -- that I can pretty confidently say
it's a risk that needs guarding against whenever two or more
people are working on their own copies of the same files.

If you're willing to put the organization's books on DropBox or
wherever, that might suffice.  (I'm not sure I would; I have a
deep suspicion of the cloud when it comes to anything
confidential.  But that's just one man's opinion.  In any case,
it's a policy decision, not a technical one; others here will
have a far better idea of whether there are technical issues with
(GnuCash + cloud).)

Failing that, I'd suggest coming up with a protocol between you,
for who gets to work on the books at any given point in time.

If you choose not to use the cloud, well, you mentioned a thumb
drive, so that's an an obvious candidate for the protocol:

(1) Don't just grab any old thumb drive that's handy, but
dedicate one specifically to this purpose, clearly label it as
such, and don't use it for anything else.  (If it's low-capacity
and reasonably inexpensive, there'll be less temptation to use it
for other things as well.)

(2) The rule is: whoever has possession of that thumb drive is
the *ONLY* one allowed to do GnuCash work on the books in
question.  You wanna do some stuff?  You gotta get the thumb
drive back from your buddy first!  And vice versa.

Either (3A): Both of you be scrupulous about copying the GnuCash
files off of the thumb drive when you first get possession of it,
and copying them back to the thumb drive before handing it off
again,

Or (3B): Edit directly on the thumb drive -- "File>Open" *that*
copy of the books, *not* one on your hard drive.  Make backups to
your respective hard drives, of course -- thumb drives can fail
or get lost.  But consider the thumb drive to be your ultimate
"single source of truth".

(3B) is a lot less error-prone, but there might be issues.
There's other stuff that's associated with a GnuCash file but not
stored within it (I can't recall what, offhand), and that
association might be lost if the thumb drive doesn't always show
up in the same place every time you insert it; e.g. if it gets a
different Windows drive letter.  Advice from people with
experience of this would be welcome here!

  - Eric

From dlgray4943 at gmail.com  Thu May 28 03:33:09 2026
From: dlgray4943 at gmail.com (David Gray)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 02:33:09 -0500
Subject: [GNC] How do I transfer all gnucash data files?
In-Reply-To: <aheHbGpUY9I5Mk8c@shekere.davor.org>
References: <CAFhhWYM3qbcmZAsC-KtOi6BgmxYD9-VWcXvsu61a3+rT5L=+Gw@mail.gmail.com>
 <aheHbGpUY9I5Mk8c@shekere.davor.org>
Message-ID: <CAFhhWYMN4oe8YQqKXEaFOamDd7_uTdUM4nVdM-fss4F7hJgwnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Adrian,
Thank you for your instructive comments on backing up and transferring gc
data files. I'm happy to say that when I ran a test by transferring the
files to my laptop,  I successfully opened my gc book exactly to where I
left of on my desk PC.

Eric,
Thank you for those very insightful comments relating to transition
protocols. I have to admit, you articulated exactly those details that I
probably would have learned the hard way. When I meet with my understudy in
a few days, I will be sure to discuss those ideas until we commit to a
protocol.

On Wed, May 27, 2026, 7:08?PM Eric S <pub08-gnc at davor.org> wrote:

> On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 10:19:34AM -0500, David Gray wrote:
> > Now I am in the process of training an under-study [...]
> > so I want to share my GnuCash Data files with him.
> >
> > I want to copy my GnuCash data files to a thumb drive
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > 3. Do you have any other insights on this process that I might have
> > overlooked?
>
> Two things.  First:  Be aware that your data file,
> WHATEVER.gnucash, has backups in the same directory called
> WHATEVER.gnucash.YYYYMMDDHHMMSS.gnucash .  The backups are great
> in case the main file gets trashed (due to either computer issues
> or the user's mistakes), but at almost any given moment, the
> backups will be out of date.  A question that shows up here
> sometimes is, "Why are my latest transactions missing?" and the
> answer is sometimes, "you were editing a backup, not the main
> file."
>
> Second thing: During the training/handover period, I presume
> you'll both be working on the organization's books.  If so,
> you'll need to be super careful to avoid both working on them *at
> the same time*; you need to take turns.
>
> Otherwise you could easily find yourself in a situation where
> you've each made changes (entered transactions, say) to your own
> copy, and now your and your understudy's versions of the books
> have diverged, with each containing work that's missing from the
> other.
>
> Recovering from that is doable, but it's Not Fun!
>
> I haven't had that arise with GnuCash specifically, but only
> because I've only ever used it on my own.  The situation happens
> often enough in general -- with word-processor documents,
> spreadsheets, or whatever -- that I can pretty confidently say
> it's a risk that needs guarding against whenever two or more
> people are working on their own copies of the same files.
>
> If you're willing to put the organization's books on DropBox or
> wherever, that might suffice.  (I'm not sure I would; I have a
> deep suspicion of the cloud when it comes to anything
> confidential.  But that's just one man's opinion.  In any case,
> it's a policy decision, not a technical one; others here will
> have a far better idea of whether there are technical issues with
> (GnuCash + cloud).)
>
> Failing that, I'd suggest coming up with a protocol between you,
> for who gets to work on the books at any given point in time.
>
> If you choose not to use the cloud, well, you mentioned a thumb
> drive, so that's an an obvious candidate for the protocol:
>
> (1) Don't just grab any old thumb drive that's handy, but
> dedicate one specifically to this purpose, clearly label it as
> such, and don't use it for anything else.  (If it's low-capacity
> and reasonably inexpensive, there'll be less temptation to use it
> for other things as well.)
>
> (2) The rule is: whoever has possession of that thumb drive is
> the *ONLY* one allowed to do GnuCash work on the books in
> question.  You wanna do some stuff?  You gotta get the thumb
> drive back from your buddy first!  And vice versa.
>
> Either (3A): Both of you be scrupulous about copying the GnuCash
> files off of the thumb drive when you first get possession of it,
> and copying them back to the thumb drive before handing it off
> again,
>
> Or (3B): Edit directly on the thumb drive -- "File>Open" *that*
> copy of the books, *not* one on your hard drive.  Make backups to
> your respective hard drives, of course -- thumb drives can fail
> or get lost.  But consider the thumb drive to be your ultimate
> "single source of truth".
>
> (3B) is a lot less error-prone, but there might be issues.
> There's other stuff that's associated with a GnuCash file but not
> stored within it (I can't recall what, offhand), and that
> association might be lost if the thumb drive doesn't always show
> up in the same place every time you insert it; e.g. if it gets a
> different Windows drive letter.  Advice from people with
> experience of this would be welcome here!
>
>   - Eric
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From cashdera1 at gmail.com  Thu May 28 02:11:03 2026
From: cashdera1 at gmail.com (cashdera)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 23:11:03 -0700
Subject: [GNC] =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E1=2E0_=E2=80=94_SQLite-format_GnuC?=
 =?utf-8?q?ash_book_import_added?=
Message-ID: <f8656c04-86f6-4c25-98c8-d5c6faade405@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I wanted to share a short update: Cashdera v1.1.0 is now available.

Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a 
GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides 
dashboards, transaction search, money-flow views, budget vs actual, net 
worth, year-over-year comparison, and other reporting views.

The main change in v1.1.0 is support for GnuCash books saved with the 
SQLite backend.

This was requested by GnuCash users after the previous release. Until 
now, Cashdera supported standard XML |.gnucash|files, including 
compressed XML files. Starting with v1.1.0, SQLite-format GnuCash books 
can also be imported.

Other changes:

  * Fixed account export so CSV files are written to the directory
    selected by the user instead of always going to Downloads.
  * Added SQLite-format GnuCash book import support.
  * Improved handling for the new SQLite import path.

Data handling remains the same:

  * The original GnuCash book is not modified.
  * Financial data is not uploaded anywhere.
  * No account is required.
  * No server sync.
  * No telemetry.
  * Data is processed locally.

Cashdera is available for:

  * Windows
  * macOS
  * Linux

Release:

https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.1.0

Documentation/screenshots:

https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md

Practical feedback is welcome, especially around SQLite import 
correctness, report accuracy, and performance with real-world GnuCash books.

Regards,
Ars


From hamlynt at gmail.com  Thu May 28 05:32:36 2026
From: hamlynt at gmail.com (Tamar Hamlyn)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 19:32:36 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Balance sheet (multicolumn) shows Assets != Liabilities due
 to rounding of foreign currency amounts
Message-ID: <CAK8B2thWNatnixZS9_eDPMD56cefkECOzsbPOk0htYJJ88SzTA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi GnuCash users,

I searched the bug tracker but couldn't find this specific issue
documented below.

Kind regards,
Tamar.

Issue: Balance sheet (multicolumn) shows Assets != Liabilities due to
rounding of foreign currency amounts

Version
-------
GnuCash 5.15, macOS

Issue
-----
Generating a balance sheet (multicolumn) can produce asset total !=
liability total, due to rounding of foreign currency amounts. Standard
balance sheet is unaffected.

Steps to reproduce
------------------
A test gnucash file with transactions below is attached.

New book:
Choose reporting currency: AUD

New accounts under Current Assets:
Bank 1(JPY)
Bank 2(JPY)

Existing Equity account:
Opening balances(AUD)

Transactions (entering the AUD quantity in the "to amount" field in
the exchange rate window):
Bank 1: JPY 500k / Opening balances: AUD 3,333.33
Bank 2: JPY 200k / Opening balances: AUD 1,333.33

Prices:
Tools, Price Database, expand Currencies to JPY, add a new
end-of-period exchange rate of:
2026-06-30: 0.00666665

Note the slight exchange rate difference with the transaction-derived
rate of 0.00666666. This difference is what triggers divergent
rounding between the two reports.

Run report:
Balance sheet (multicolumn). Report Options, Commodities tab: set
reporting currency to AUD, set price source to last up through report
date.
For comparison, also run standard balance sheet. Apply same report
options in Commodities tab: set reporting currency to AUD, set price
source to last up through report date.

Actual behaviour
----------------
Balance sheet (multicolumn) does not balance: assets != liabilities.
Assets total from balance sheet report is: AUD 4,666.65
Liabilities total from balance sheet report is: AUD 4,666.66

Note the 1 cent difference. Balance sheet (standard) displays correct
behaviour, assets and liabilities both total AUD 4,666.66.

Desired behaviour
-----------------
Balance sheet should ALWAYS balance.

If balance sheet totals do not match, this suggests an accounting
error and invites questions about errors or inaccuracies. It makes the
balance sheet report invalid by definition.

Possible cause
--------------
The possible cause might relate to the multicolumn report using a
round-then-sum approach, while the standard report uses
sum-then-round.

The current behaviour in balance sheet (multicolumn) is consistent
with the following:
- First convert child foreign currency amount to a corresponding
(rounded) amount in reporting currency. This involves multiple
conversions and applies rounding to every conversion.
- Then sum the resulting rounded reporting currency amounts to produce
intermediate and top-level reporting currency totals.
This approach accumulates rounding errors at each level in the account
hierarchy, which in turn results in the top-level discrepancy in
totals. It is a round-then-sum approach.

Possible fix
------------
If strict equality between assets and liability is desirable, then
balance sheet (multicolumn) report should instead do the following:
- First, determine all intermediate and top-level foreign currency
quantities, by aggregating all child foreign currency quantities at
each point in the account hierarchy.
- Convert each foreign currency total at each level in the account
hierarchy to the reporting currency amount as a single conversion.
Present these totals in the report.
This sum-then-round approach only performs a single rounding operation
as the last step at each level of the account hierarchy. This ensures
that maximum accuracy is retained for account totals, as they are
constructed directly from their local-currency components. Notably
this approach does not re-use rounded subtotals to construct parent
account amounts.

Discussion
----------
While the sum-then-round approach can ensure the balance sheet does
balance, it also means that report subtotals and totals may not
reflect the sum of their displayed sub-accounts and subtotals. Is it
desirable to prioritise line-item consistency over balance-sheet
equality?

I'd be grateful for feedback from users or devs who have encountered
this issue, or who are familiar with the development history, who have
views either way on which approach might be preferred.

Real-world impact
-----------------
The above rounding errors mean that a real-world balance sheet does
not balance in approximately 5 out of the past 10 years. The accounts
contain assets across around 6 foreign currencies, with relatively
infrequent changes in holdings throughout the history.

There are no specific triggers for the mismatched balance sheet
totals, other than the randomness of rounding foreign currency
subtotals and their conversion at the relevant exchange rates in
effect at each balance sheet date.

AI usage
--------
The explanation above was written by myself after testing the above
steps manually in GnuCash. I then ran my draft through Claude which
made minor changes to grammar and clarity of explanation.

Attachments
-----------
1 General Journal.png
2 Balance Sheet Multicolumn.png
3 Balance Sheet Standard.png
4 test-balancesheet-multicolumn.gnucash (XML)
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From lwhalen26 at gmail.com  Thu May 28 08:55:45 2026
From: lwhalen26 at gmail.com (Lawrence Whalen)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 08:55:45 -0400
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <10v5s3r$15gk$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
 <CAALPpSeVi5KDXb2TfT15makDif+UR-f5yd7SXta_xk1hzMtUqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAALPpSdUpDDsfnk41a93NhZjUxxJ6=xZCAEyX40huxu7jFr1Lw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5C128718-71A1-4207-A0F0-343E4DEA1776@yahoo.com> <10v54vi$kok$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <E5E12A47-E59A-4965-9012-7B6F489E085D@yahoo.com>
 <10v5s3r$15gk$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Message-ID: <CAALPpSdWL9GbTLMyNu1endMsiYHtvabjeue3roFxLWctFYA+gg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Thank you for your responses. I wasn't thinking on the reply all I
apologize for that.

David T if you could send once more how you set up your accounts for the
flex card it would be much appreciated. I don't know what happened to the
original one, but I can't find it. In google mail I set up labels for Gnucash
and I just can't find yours for some reason.

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Larry


On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 12:32?AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Indeed. Accounts which contain transactions and are later changed to
> placeholders retain those transactions.
>
> I think the case of placeholders sometimes getting new transactions was
> either from Scheduled Transactions or Imports. But I seem to recall that
> was considered a bugs, and is now fixed. Though I could be mistaken.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/26/26 10:36 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> > And, since we're in a clarifying mode, I'll note that placeholder
> accounts most certainly can contain transactions. You just can't (generally
> speaking*) add new transactions to a placeholder account.
> >
> > I have dozens of placeholder accounts with transactions in them-- for
> example, accounts that have been closed. Setting an account as a
> placeholder ensures that the account doesn't display in transfer account
> drop down windows.
> >
> > David T.
> >
> > * I've encountered corner cases where an action created a transaction in
> a placeholder account. I don't recall these at this moment.
>
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>

From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Thu May 28 09:27:15 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 06:27:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <CAALPpSdWL9GbTLMyNu1endMsiYHtvabjeue3roFxLWctFYA+gg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
 <CAALPpSeVi5KDXb2TfT15makDif+UR-f5yd7SXta_xk1hzMtUqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAALPpSdUpDDsfnk41a93NhZjUxxJ6=xZCAEyX40huxu7jFr1Lw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5C128718-71A1-4207-A0F0-343E4DEA1776@yahoo.com>
 <10v54vi$kok$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <E5E12A47-E59A-4965-9012-7B6F489E085D@yahoo.com>
 <10v5s3r$15gk$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <CAALPpSdWL9GbTLMyNu1endMsiYHtvabjeue3roFxLWctFYA+gg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1445093772.134156.1779974835336@connect.xfinity.com>

Larry,

The messages are archived, so you may search for any/all of them. In fact, you may download the messages in a convenient Gzip.

See: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists

> On 05/28/2026 5:55 AM PDT Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> Thank you for your responses. I wasn't thinking on the reply all I
> apologize for that.
> 
> David T if you could send once more how you set up your accounts for the
> flex card it would be much appreciated. I don't know what happened to the
> original one, but I can't find it. In google mail I set up labels for Gnucash
> and I just can't find yours for some reason.
> 
> Thank you for your time.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 12:32?AM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
> > Indeed. Accounts which contain transactions and are later changed to
> > placeholders retain those transactions.
> >
> > I think the case of placeholders sometimes getting new transactions was
> > either from Scheduled Transactions or Imports. But I seem to recall that
> > was considered a bugs, and is now fixed. Though I could be mistaken.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 5/26/26 10:36 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> > > And, since we're in a clarifying mode, I'll note that placeholder
> > accounts most certainly can contain transactions. You just can't (generally
> > speaking*) add new transactions to a placeholder account.
> > >
> > > I have dozens of placeholder accounts with transactions in them-- for
> > example, accounts that have been closed. Setting an account as a
> > placeholder ensures that the account doesn't display in transfer account
> > drop down windows.
> > >
> > > David T.
> > >
> > > * I've encountered corner cases where an action created a transaction in
> > a placeholder account. I don't recall these at this moment.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnucash-user mailing list
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> > -----
> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> >
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.

From lwhalen26 at gmail.com  Thu May 28 10:29:45 2026
From: lwhalen26 at gmail.com (Lawrence Whalen)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 10:29:45 -0400
Subject: [GNC] flex card for medical expenses
In-Reply-To: <1445093772.134156.1779974835336@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CAALPpSeS3rO_8deYqHBqoi45THDz3D3-JUV0o0gpWHT5JyvpJA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0350B8E0-76F2-4776-9DB1-7CDB37606993@yahoo.com>
 <CAALPpSeVi5KDXb2TfT15makDif+UR-f5yd7SXta_xk1hzMtUqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAALPpSdUpDDsfnk41a93NhZjUxxJ6=xZCAEyX40huxu7jFr1Lw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5C128718-71A1-4207-A0F0-343E4DEA1776@yahoo.com> <10v54vi$kok$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <E5E12A47-E59A-4965-9012-7B6F489E085D@yahoo.com>
 <10v5s3r$15gk$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <CAALPpSdWL9GbTLMyNu1endMsiYHtvabjeue3roFxLWctFYA+gg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1445093772.134156.1779974835336@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CAALPpSeD2fZTQhQw_pSH9mCVQd80+p6rVm_9T5oyEN145KxAYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you very much for that I forgot that they were there. I will find the
one I am after. Take care.

Regards,

Larry


On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 9:28?AM Patrick James via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:

> Larry,
>
> The messages are archived, so you may search for any/all of them. In fact,
> you may download the messages in a convenient Gzip.
>
> See: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists
>
> > On 05/28/2026 5:55 AM PDT Lawrence Whalen <lwhalen26 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thank you for your responses. I wasn't thinking on the reply all I
> > apologize for that.
> >
> > David T if you could send once more how you set up your accounts for the
> > flex card it would be much appreciated. I don't know what happened to the
> > original one, but I can't find it. In google mail I set up labels for
> Gnucash
> > and I just can't find yours for some reason.
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 12:32?AM Adrien Monteleone <
> > adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Indeed. Accounts which contain transactions and are later changed to
> > > placeholders retain those transactions.
> > >
> > > I think the case of placeholders sometimes getting new transactions was
> > > either from Scheduled Transactions or Imports. But I seem to recall
> that
> > > was considered a bugs, and is now fixed. Though I could be mistaken.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Adrien
> > >
> > > On 5/26/26 10:36 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
> > > > And, since we're in a clarifying mode, I'll note that placeholder
> > > accounts most certainly can contain transactions. You just can't
> (generally
> > > speaking*) add new transactions to a placeholder account.
> > > >
> > > > I have dozens of placeholder accounts with transactions in them-- for
> > > example, accounts that have been closed. Setting an account as a
> > > placeholder ensures that the account doesn't display in transfer
> account
> > > drop down windows.
> > > >
> > > > David T.
> > > >
> > > > * I've encountered corner cases where an action created a
> transaction in
> > > a placeholder account. I don't recall these at this moment.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > gnucash-user mailing list
> > > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> > > -----
> > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > gnucash-user mailing list
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> > -----
> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> _______________________________________________
> gnucash-user mailing list
> gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> -----
> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>

From hamlynt at gmail.com  Thu May 28 10:30:49 2026
From: hamlynt at gmail.com (Tamar Hamlyn)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2026 00:30:49 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Balance sheet (multicolumn) shows Assets != Liabilities
 due to rounding of foreign currency amounts
In-Reply-To: <CAK8B2thWNatnixZS9_eDPMD56cefkECOzsbPOk0htYJJ88SzTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK8B2thWNatnixZS9_eDPMD56cefkECOzsbPOk0htYJJ88SzTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK8B2thvPqfAw2ZoqQPQpkLxbgOvf6=9Vq=v481by+Ya3NgYRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Two additional screenshots (adding foreign currency amounts and
exchange rates to both reports) might help show this more clearly,
please refer attached.


On Thu, 28 May 2026 at 19:32, Tamar Hamlyn <hamlynt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi GnuCash users,
>
> I searched the bug tracker but couldn't find this specific issue
> documented below.
>
> Kind regards,
> Tamar.
>
> Issue: Balance sheet (multicolumn) shows Assets != Liabilities due to
> rounding of foreign currency amounts
>
> Version
> -------
> GnuCash 5.15, macOS
>
> Issue
> -----
> Generating a balance sheet (multicolumn) can produce asset total !=
> liability total, due to rounding of foreign currency amounts. Standard
> balance sheet is unaffected.
>
> Steps to reproduce
> ------------------
> A test gnucash file with transactions below is attached.
>
> New book:
> Choose reporting currency: AUD
>
> New accounts under Current Assets:
> Bank 1(JPY)
> Bank 2(JPY)
>
> Existing Equity account:
> Opening balances(AUD)
>
> Transactions (entering the AUD quantity in the "to amount" field in
> the exchange rate window):
> Bank 1: JPY 500k / Opening balances: AUD 3,333.33
> Bank 2: JPY 200k / Opening balances: AUD 1,333.33
>
> Prices:
> Tools, Price Database, expand Currencies to JPY, add a new
> end-of-period exchange rate of:
> 2026-06-30: 0.00666665
>
> Note the slight exchange rate difference with the transaction-derived
> rate of 0.00666666. This difference is what triggers divergent
> rounding between the two reports.
>
> Run report:
> Balance sheet (multicolumn). Report Options, Commodities tab: set
> reporting currency to AUD, set price source to last up through report
> date.
> For comparison, also run standard balance sheet. Apply same report
> options in Commodities tab: set reporting currency to AUD, set price
> source to last up through report date.
>
> Actual behaviour
> ----------------
> Balance sheet (multicolumn) does not balance: assets != liabilities.
> Assets total from balance sheet report is: AUD 4,666.65
> Liabilities total from balance sheet report is: AUD 4,666.66
>
> Note the 1 cent difference. Balance sheet (standard) displays correct
> behaviour, assets and liabilities both total AUD 4,666.66.
>
> Desired behaviour
> -----------------
> Balance sheet should ALWAYS balance.
>
> If balance sheet totals do not match, this suggests an accounting
> error and invites questions about errors or inaccuracies. It makes the
> balance sheet report invalid by definition.
>
> Possible cause
> --------------
> The possible cause might relate to the multicolumn report using a
> round-then-sum approach, while the standard report uses
> sum-then-round.
>
> The current behaviour in balance sheet (multicolumn) is consistent
> with the following:
> - First convert child foreign currency amount to a corresponding
> (rounded) amount in reporting currency. This involves multiple
> conversions and applies rounding to every conversion.
> - Then sum the resulting rounded reporting currency amounts to produce
> intermediate and top-level reporting currency totals.
> This approach accumulates rounding errors at each level in the account
> hierarchy, which in turn results in the top-level discrepancy in
> totals. It is a round-then-sum approach.
>
> Possible fix
> ------------
> If strict equality between assets and liability is desirable, then
> balance sheet (multicolumn) report should instead do the following:
> - First, determine all intermediate and top-level foreign currency
> quantities, by aggregating all child foreign currency quantities at
> each point in the account hierarchy.
> - Convert each foreign currency total at each level in the account
> hierarchy to the reporting currency amount as a single conversion.
> Present these totals in the report.
> This sum-then-round approach only performs a single rounding operation
> as the last step at each level of the account hierarchy. This ensures
> that maximum accuracy is retained for account totals, as they are
> constructed directly from their local-currency components. Notably
> this approach does not re-use rounded subtotals to construct parent
> account amounts.
>
> Discussion
> ----------
> While the sum-then-round approach can ensure the balance sheet does
> balance, it also means that report subtotals and totals may not
> reflect the sum of their displayed sub-accounts and subtotals. Is it
> desirable to prioritise line-item consistency over balance-sheet
> equality?
>
> I'd be grateful for feedback from users or devs who have encountered
> this issue, or who are familiar with the development history, who have
> views either way on which approach might be preferred.
>
> Real-world impact
> -----------------
> The above rounding errors mean that a real-world balance sheet does
> not balance in approximately 5 out of the past 10 years. The accounts
> contain assets across around 6 foreign currencies, with relatively
> infrequent changes in holdings throughout the history.
>
> There are no specific triggers for the mismatched balance sheet
> totals, other than the randomness of rounding foreign currency
> subtotals and their conversion at the relevant exchange rates in
> effect at each balance sheet date.
>
> AI usage
> --------
> The explanation above was written by myself after testing the above
> steps manually in GnuCash. I then ran my draft through Claude which
> made minor changes to grammar and clarity of explanation.
>
> Attachments
> -----------
> 1 General Journal.png
> 2 Balance Sheet Multicolumn.png
> 3 Balance Sheet Standard.png
> 4 test-balancesheet-multicolumn.gnucash (XML)
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From will at theprescotts.com  Thu May 28 12:29:21 2026
From: will at theprescotts.com (William Prescott)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 18:29:21 +0200
Subject: [GNC] 
 =?utf-8?q?Cashdera_v1=2E1=2E0_=E2=80=94_SQLite-format_GnuC?=
 =?utf-8?q?ash_book_import_added?=
In-Reply-To: <f8656c04-86f6-4c25-98c8-d5c6faade405@gmail.com>
References: <f8656c04-86f6-4c25-98c8-d5c6faade405@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D4C9B96F-DD37-43C9-95BE-0DFF5169CF0F@theprescotts.com>

List administrators,

Is Ars violating any conditions for the use of this list by sending advertising to the list? Personally I have no interest in seeing advertisements for commercial products whatever the relation to GnuCash.

Will

On 28 May 2026, at 8:11, cashdera <cashdera1 at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I wanted to share a short update: Cashdera v1.1.0 is now available.

Cashdera is a local analytics companion for GnuCash. It imports a GnuCash book into a local SQLite analytics cache and provides dashboards, transaction search, money-flow views, budget vs actual, net worth, year-over-year comparison, and other reporting views.

The main change in v1.1.0 is support for GnuCash books saved with the SQLite backend.

This was requested by GnuCash users after the previous release. Until now, Cashdera supported standard XML |.gnucash|files, including compressed XML files. Starting with v1.1.0, SQLite-format GnuCash books can also be imported.

Other changes:

* Fixed account export so CSV files are written to the directory
  selected by the user instead of always going to Downloads.
* Added SQLite-format GnuCash book import support.
* Improved handling for the new SQLite import path.

Data handling remains the same:

* The original GnuCash book is not modified.
* Financial data is not uploaded anywhere.
* No account is required.
* No server sync.
* No telemetry.
* Data is processed locally.

Cashdera is available for:

* Windows
* macOS
* Linux

Release:

https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/releases/tag/v1.1.0

Documentation/screenshots:

https://github.com/proars/Cashdera/blob/main/README.md

Practical feedback is welcome, especially around SQLite import correctness, report accuracy, and performance with real-world GnuCash books.

Regards,
Ars

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From manfred at usselmann.de  Fri May 29 04:37:40 2026
From: manfred at usselmann.de (Manfred Usselmann)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2026 10:37:40 +0200
Subject: [GNC] Import by AqBanking not working
Message-ID: <afe186511da5e57875e12875ce38c8ae@usselmann.de>

Hi,

the file import function Import by Aqbanking does not work for me. I am 
using GnuCash 5.15 with Windows 11.

I am talking about just the file import, not the online banking 
functionality. After selecting e.g. the menu option to import Swift / 
MT940 or XML / camt53 data, I can choose a file to import and that's it. 
Nothing happens, the dialog simply closes. The next step would be the 
selection of the account into which the data should be imported. I would 
expect at least  an error message. But nothing...

Anybody else having this issue?

Thanks and regards,
Manfred

From ahk at chinet.com  Sat May 30 14:48:19 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 13:48:19 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
Message-ID: <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>

I've got another recovery vs. reimbursement scenario.

Taxpayer died in 2026. She paid a premium each month for a Medicare 
supplemental. Her estate received a refund for a portion of her last month 
of life.

Thinking about it, her medical expenses paid during her lifetime, if they 
are itemized deductions to the extent they exceed 7.5% AGI threshold, would 
make the refund a recovery and possibly ordinary income to her estate as the 
estate is a separate taxpayer.

If she won't benefit from itemizing, the recovery won't be taxable, but it's 
still a recovery and not a reimbursement booked as a contra expense because 
it was received in the same tax year the expense was paid.

From ahk at chinet.com  Sat May 30 16:45:06 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 15:45:06 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
Message-ID: <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>

1:48pm -0000 05/30/26 Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:

>I've got another recovery vs. reimbursement scenario.

>Taxpayer died in 2026. She paid a premium each month for a Medicare 
>supplemental. Her estate received a refund for a portion of her last month 
>of life.

>Thinking about it, her medical expenses paid during her lifetime, if they 
>are itemized deductions to the extent they exceed 7.5% AGI threshold, would 
>make the refund a recovery and possibly ordinary income to her estate as the 
>estate is a separate taxpayer.

>If she won't benefit from itemizing, the recovery won't be taxable, but it's 
>still a recovery and not a reimbursement booked as a contra expense because 
>it was received in the same tax year the expense was paid.

Here's another wrinkle. There is an election on the taxpayer's final tax 
return that medical expenses paid by the estate within a year may be 
deducted on the final tax return instead.

The reimbursement, though, is still a recovery, and not a contra expense.

From stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com  Sat May 30 20:01:53 2026
From: stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com (Steve Butler)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 17:01:53 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Fwd:  Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
 <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>
Message-ID: <CALTSo2hMBKPpnX5agwYkhSC7Sv1SKC+cCT7=Be-h76axzv6cxw@mail.gmail.com>

Shouldn't this be a question for the state's CPA?

Not sure how this pertains to setting up the transaction in GnC.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com>
Date: Sat, May 30, 2026, 13:47
Subject: Re: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
To: <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>


1:48pm -0000 05/30/26 Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:

>I've got another recovery vs. reimbursement scenario.

>Taxpayer died in 2026. She paid a premium each month for a Medicare
>supplemental. Her estate received a refund for a portion of her last month
>of life.

>Thinking about it, her medical expenses paid during her lifetime, if they
>are itemized deductions to the extent they exceed 7.5% AGI threshold,
would
>make the refund a recovery and possibly ordinary income to her estate as
the
>estate is a separate taxpayer.

>If she won't benefit from itemizing, the recovery won't be taxable, but
it's
>still a recovery and not a reimbursement booked as a contra expense
because
>it was received in the same tax year the expense was paid.

Here's another wrinkle. There is an election on the taxpayer's final tax
return that medical expenses paid by the estate within a year may be
deducted on the final tax return instead.

The reimbursement, though, is still a recovery, and not a contra expense.
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From tydeman.fred at gmail.com  Sat May 30 21:32:44 2026
From: tydeman.fred at gmail.com (Fred Tydeman)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 09:32:44 +0800
Subject: [GNC] Split tax year transaction
Message-ID: <CAK1r+o0O58TXLoApGMoqV6TQDRrMxPD1R2T+Pvrt9=s8CABBLQ@mail.gmail.com>

How is one supposed to record the following:
63.00 One payment from a stock in January 2024
51.10 that is split as a capital gain in 2023
10.39 and a split as a capital gain in 2024
  1.51 and a dividend payment in 2024

The above numbers come from the 1099 tax reports for 2023 and 2024.

The 63.00 deposit shows as just dividend in 2024 in the online transaction
search.

From ahk at chinet.com  Sat May 30 21:36:27 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 20:36:27 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <CALTSo2hMBKPpnX5agwYkhSC7Sv1SKC+cCT7=Be-h76axzv6cxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
 <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>
 <CALTSo2hMBKPpnX5agwYkhSC7Sv1SKC+cCT7=Be-h76axzv6cxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4o6o4o72-qs0s-009s-n06n-9s219op4906q@puvarg.pbz>

7:01pm -0000 05/30/26 Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:

>Shouldn't this be a question for the state's CPA?

I'm preparing the tax return, or at least a draft. Even if a CPA were to be 
engaged, I still want to present him with a decent set of books.

>Not sure how this pertains to setting up the transaction in GnC.

Because if one is making sure that accounts in the books are mapped to lines 
on a tax return, the accounts must be characterized the same way on both.

One must properly characterize whether the reimbursement or refund is a 
recovery. If it's not a recovery, it's a contra expense and entered into the 
same expense account as the initial transaction. If it's a recvery, then 
it's entered into an income account. I have "includible" and "excludable" 
subaccounts under the recovery account.

If it weren't for the anamolous manner in which reimbursements and refunds 
are treated depending on when received and the extent to which there was a 
tax benefit for the initial expense, it would simply be booked as a contra 
expense. But that's not the way tax compliance works.

Every subscriber has knowledge of bookkeeping principles and may offer a 
good suggestion or, under a similar set of circumstances, do it the way I 
figured it out.

From tydeman.fred at gmail.com  Sat May 30 22:30:11 2026
From: tydeman.fred at gmail.com (Fred Tydeman)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 10:30:11 +0800
Subject: [GNC] Advanced Portfolio report of basis
Message-ID: <CAK1r+o000UTEoeAi=vpHd_drZW1E1cnnmMF+8ifyXQM74Ew=zg@mail.gmail.com>

I have a stock that has had a few Return of Capital transactions.
They have been recorded as sell of zero shares at zero price for the
Return of Capital dollar amount.

When I look at the Advanced Portfolio report for that stock,
the Basis price is the original purchase amount.  I am expecting that
the Basis price to be original purchase amount - (sum of Return of Capital).

Did I record Return of Capital wrong?
Is there a bug in the Advanced Portfolio?

Is there a better way to find the basis of a stock?

GnuCash 5.14 on Fedora Linux 44

From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Sat May 30 23:23:14 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 20:23:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <4o6o4o72-qs0s-009s-n06n-9s219op4906q@puvarg.pbz>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
 <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>
 <CALTSo2hMBKPpnX5agwYkhSC7Sv1SKC+cCT7=Be-h76axzv6cxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <4o6o4o72-qs0s-009s-n06n-9s219op4906q@puvarg.pbz>
Message-ID: <1628698772.190004.1780197794730@connect.xfinity.com>

I have discussed that financial accounting records are not required to align with tax records. Not always, but sometimes, the decision will be made to align the financial records with tax records. It is often possible to do so, but there are times when doing so does not present the financial accounting records in a "proper" way, where "proper" is a management decision.

This US-based discussion about probate and pre-paid medical expenses that were previously deducted because they met a 7.5% threshold, and, furthermore, that expense itemization was above the standard deduction... This must have an audience of about 1, and it might be the case that the rules change tomorrow, either by court decision or Congressional action.

My bet, and I don't have the numbers, is that this is a "de minimis" situation where the difference in total tax liability is close to zero, and thus the personal representative/executor would have minimal liability unless tax evasion could be proved.

> On 05/30/2026 6:36 PM PDT Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> 7:01pm -0000 05/30/26 Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >Shouldn't this be a question for the state's CPA?
> 
> I'm preparing the tax return, or at least a draft. Even if a CPA were to be 
> engaged, I still want to present him with a decent set of books.
> 
> >Not sure how this pertains to setting up the transaction in GnC.
> 
> Because if one is making sure that accounts in the books are mapped to lines 
> on a tax return, the accounts must be characterized the same way on both.
> 
> One must properly characterize whether the reimbursement or refund is a 
> recovery. If it's not a recovery, it's a contra expense and entered into the 
> same expense account as the initial transaction. If it's a recvery, then 
> it's entered into an income account. I have "includible" and "excludable" 
> subaccounts under the recovery account.
> 
> If it weren't for the anamolous manner in which reimbursements and refunds 
> are treated depending on when received and the extent to which there was a 
> tax benefit for the initial expense, it would simply be booked as a contra 
> expense. But that's not the way tax compliance works.
> 
> Every subscriber has knowledge of bookkeeping principles and may offer a 
> good suggestion or, under a similar set of circumstances, do it the way I 
> figured it out.

From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Sun May 31 00:11:53 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 09:41:53 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <1628698772.190004.1780197794730@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
 <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>
 <CALTSo2hMBKPpnX5agwYkhSC7Sv1SKC+cCT7=Be-h76axzv6cxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <4o6o4o72-qs0s-009s-n06n-9s219op4906q@puvarg.pbz>
 <1628698772.190004.1780197794730@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <86F73932-38AC-4143-BEB0-3385F32E5BCC@yahoo.com>

Patrick, thank you for clarifying this discussion for me. I was wondering whether I should be worrying about something. 

Adam, I think you may have a skewed idea of who makes up the GnuCash user group. I am not so sure that "every subscriber has knowledge of bookkeeping principles." ;)

David T. 

On May 31, 2026 8:53:14 AM GMT+05:30, Patrick James via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>I have discussed that financial accounting records are not required to align with tax records. Not always, but sometimes, the decision will be made to align the financial records with tax records. It is often possible to do so, but there are times when doing so does not present the financial accounting records in a "proper" way, where "proper" is a management decision.
>
>This US-based discussion about probate and pre-paid medical expenses that were previously deducted because they met a 7.5% threshold, and, furthermore, that expense itemization was above the standard deduction... This must have an audience of about 1, and it might be the case that the rules change tomorrow, either by court decision or Congressional action.
>
>My bet, and I don't have the numbers, is that this is a "de minimis" situation where the difference in total tax liability is close to zero, and thus the personal representative/executor would have minimal liability unless tax evasion could be proved.
>
>> On 05/30/2026 6:36 PM PDT Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 7:01pm -0000 05/30/26 Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Shouldn't this be a question for the state's CPA?
>> 
>> I'm preparing the tax return, or at least a draft. Even if a CPA were to be 
>> engaged, I still want to present him with a decent set of books.
>> 
>> >Not sure how this pertains to setting up the transaction in GnC.
>> 
>> Because if one is making sure that accounts in the books are mapped to lines 
>> on a tax return, the accounts must be characterized the same way on both.
>> 
>> One must properly characterize whether the reimbursement or refund is a 
>> recovery. If it's not a recovery, it's a contra expense and entered into the 
>> same expense account as the initial transaction. If it's a recvery, then 
>> it's entered into an income account. I have "includible" and "excludable" 
>> subaccounts under the recovery account.
>> 
>> If it weren't for the anamolous manner in which reimbursements and refunds 
>> are treated depending on when received and the extent to which there was a 
>> tax benefit for the initial expense, it would simply be booked as a contra 
>> expense. But that's not the way tax compliance works.
>> 
>> Every subscriber has knowledge of bookkeeping principles and may offer a 
>> good suggestion or, under a similar set of circumstances, do it the way I 
>> figured it out.
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From sunfish62 at yahoo.com  Sun May 31 00:11:53 2026
From: sunfish62 at yahoo.com (David T.)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 09:41:53 +0530
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <1628698772.190004.1780197794730@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
 <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>
 <CALTSo2hMBKPpnX5agwYkhSC7Sv1SKC+cCT7=Be-h76axzv6cxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <4o6o4o72-qs0s-009s-n06n-9s219op4906q@puvarg.pbz>
 <1628698772.190004.1780197794730@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <86F73932-38AC-4143-BEB0-3385F32E5BCC@yahoo.com>

Patrick, thank you for clarifying this discussion for me. I was wondering whether I should be worrying about something. 

Adam, I think you may have a skewed idea of who makes up the GnuCash user group. I am not so sure that "every subscriber has knowledge of bookkeeping principles." ;)

David T. 

On May 31, 2026 8:53:14 AM GMT+05:30, Patrick James via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>I have discussed that financial accounting records are not required to align with tax records. Not always, but sometimes, the decision will be made to align the financial records with tax records. It is often possible to do so, but there are times when doing so does not present the financial accounting records in a "proper" way, where "proper" is a management decision.
>
>This US-based discussion about probate and pre-paid medical expenses that were previously deducted because they met a 7.5% threshold, and, furthermore, that expense itemization was above the standard deduction... This must have an audience of about 1, and it might be the case that the rules change tomorrow, either by court decision or Congressional action.
>
>My bet, and I don't have the numbers, is that this is a "de minimis" situation where the difference in total tax liability is close to zero, and thus the personal representative/executor would have minimal liability unless tax evasion could be proved.
>
>> On 05/30/2026 6:36 PM PDT Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 7:01pm -0000 05/30/26 Steve Butler <stephen.m.butler51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Shouldn't this be a question for the state's CPA?
>> 
>> I'm preparing the tax return, or at least a draft. Even if a CPA were to be 
>> engaged, I still want to present him with a decent set of books.
>> 
>> >Not sure how this pertains to setting up the transaction in GnC.
>> 
>> Because if one is making sure that accounts in the books are mapped to lines 
>> on a tax return, the accounts must be characterized the same way on both.
>> 
>> One must properly characterize whether the reimbursement or refund is a 
>> recovery. If it's not a recovery, it's a contra expense and entered into the 
>> same expense account as the initial transaction. If it's a recvery, then 
>> it's entered into an income account. I have "includible" and "excludable" 
>> subaccounts under the recovery account.
>> 
>> If it weren't for the anamolous manner in which reimbursements and refunds 
>> are treated depending on when received and the extent to which there was a 
>> tax benefit for the initial expense, it would simply be booked as a contra 
>> expense. But that's not the way tax compliance works.
>> 
>> Every subscriber has knowledge of bookkeeping principles and may offer a 
>> good suggestion or, under a similar set of circumstances, do it the way I 
>> figured it out.
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From ahk at chinet.com  Sun May 31 00:21:16 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 23:21:16 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <1628698772.190004.1780197794730@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
 <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>
 <CALTSo2hMBKPpnX5agwYkhSC7Sv1SKC+cCT7=Be-h76axzv6cxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <4o6o4o72-qs0s-009s-n06n-9s219op4906q@puvarg.pbz>
 <1628698772.190004.1780197794730@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <71018859-r288-oo8r-86s8-1o12n1r5o58p@puvarg.pbz>

10:23pm -0000 05/30/26 Patrick James via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash...:

>I have discussed that financial accounting records are not required to 
>align with tax records. Not always, but sometimes, the decision will be 
>made to align the financial records with tax records. It is often possible 
>to do so, but there are times when doing so does not present the financial 
>accounting records in a "proper" way, where "proper" is a management 
>decision.

While your point is well taken, I will be preparing a tax return.

>This US-based discussion about probate and pre-paid medical expenses that 
>were previously deducted because they met a 7.5% threshold, and, 
>furthermore, that expense itemization was above the standard deduction... 
>This must have an audience of about 1, and it might be the case that the 
>rules change tomorrow, either by court decision or Congressional action.

I did use a descriptive Subject, so if another subscriber hasn't encountered 
the issue of the need to treat reimbursements and rebates as recoveries, he 
can skip the entire thread.

But I've now run into the issue twice in less than two months.

From ahk at chinet.com  Sun May 31 00:39:45 2026
From: ahk at chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 23:39:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <86F73932-38AC-4143-BEB0-3385F32E5BCC@yahoo.com>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
 <26s0r7s7-0q5o-0r6r-4168-9o268093oppo@puvarg.pbz>
 <nn856759-rprp-q502-8nn0-p007o4n26nn4@puvarg.pbz>
 <CALTSo2hMBKPpnX5agwYkhSC7Sv1SKC+cCT7=Be-h76axzv6cxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <4o6o4o72-qs0s-009s-n06n-9s219op4906q@puvarg.pbz>
 <1628698772.190004.1780197794730@connect.xfinity.com>
 <86F73932-38AC-4143-BEB0-3385F32E5BCC@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <s254np2s-44n7-6887-6s45-651rs4847o4n@puvarg.pbz>

11:11pm -0000 05/30/26 David T. via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>...:

>Patrick, thank you for clarifying this discussion for me. I was wondering 
>whether I should be worrying about something.

The two instances in which I encountered the issue were both with regard to 
medical expenses. But the extent to which any reimbursed or refunded expense 
is a recovery and the extent to which the recovery is includible or 
excludable as reported income on a tax return should be applicable to any 
expense.

>Adam, I think you may have a skewed idea of who makes up the GnuCash user 
>group. I am not so sure that "every subscriber has knowledge of bookkeeping 
>principles." ;)

By consistently maintaining books, aren't we getting better at it?

From sh025622 at gmail.com  Sun May 31 02:36:37 2026
From: sh025622 at gmail.com (Sherlock)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 23:36:37 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Advanced Portfolio report of basis
In-Reply-To: <CAK1r+o000UTEoeAi=vpHd_drZW1E1cnnmMF+8ifyXQM74Ew=zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK1r+o000UTEoeAi=vpHd_drZW1E1cnnmMF+8ifyXQM74Ew=zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10vgktl$3oh$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Hi Fred,

The approach we use it to enter a transaction selling each lot's shares 
at their current cost basis, purchasing the same number of shares of 
each lot at their new cost basis, and recording the amount of capital 
returned to an income account for the security.  We use a separate 
transaction from the income account for the security to the account that 
receives the return of capital.

Regards,

Sherlock


On 5/30/26 7:30 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> I have a stock that has had a few Return of Capital transactions.
> They have been recorded as sell of zero shares at zero price for the
> Return of Capital dollar amount.
> 
> When I look at the Advanced Portfolio report for that stock,
> the Basis price is the original purchase amount.  I am expecting that
> the Basis price to be original purchase amount - (sum of Return of Capital).
> 
> Did I record Return of Capital wrong?
> Is there a bug in the Advanced Portfolio?
> 
> Is there a better way to find the basis of a stock?
> 
> GnuCash 5.14 on Fedora Linux 44


From sh025622 at gmail.com  Sun May 31 03:33:33 2026
From: sh025622 at gmail.com (Sherlock)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 00:33:33 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Split tax year transaction
In-Reply-To: <CAK1r+o0O58TXLoApGMoqV6TQDRrMxPD1R2T+Pvrt9=s8CABBLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK1r+o0O58TXLoApGMoqV6TQDRrMxPD1R2T+Pvrt9=s8CABBLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10vgo8d$dg1$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Hi Fred,

Generally, we attempt to mimic what is happening in the financial 
institution's account record so that it's simpler to reconcile with our 
account record but that isn't always easy.  The approach I suggest is to 
enter the $51.10 capital gain in 2023 and the $10.39 capital gain and 
$1.54 dividend in 2024 so that the income reports are accurate.  You can 
add a note to the transactions that explains what happened.  If you want 
the 2024 $63 deposit transaction, you can include a self-referencing 
split for the $51.10 2023 amount in the 2024 transaction.

Regards,

Sherlock


On 5/30/26 6:32 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:1

> How is one supposed to record the following:
> 63.00 One payment from a stock in January 2024
> 51.10 that is split as a capital gain in 2023
> 10.39 and a split as a capital gain in 2024
>    1.51 and a dividend payment in 2024
> 
> The above numbers come from the 1099 tax reports for 2023 and 2024.
> 
> The 63.00 deposit shows as just dividend in 2024 in the online transaction
> search.
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From patrickjames14 at comcast.net  Sun May 31 03:49:14 2026
From: patrickjames14 at comcast.net (Patrick James)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 00:49:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GNC] Recovery vs. reimbursement
In-Reply-To: <s254np2s-44n7-6887-6s45-651rs4847o4n@puvarg.pbz>
References: <38762r1o-p70p-r0s6-8o92-8921r855o084@puvarg.pbz>
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 <4o6o4o72-qs0s-009s-n06n-9s219op4906q@puvarg.pbz>
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Message-ID: <298879980.190997.1780213754539@connect.xfinity.com>

"consistency" is one of the principles of accounting. The consistency principle must be considered with each and every journal entry. Loosely if you make a decision about how to record something, let's say you chose FIFO for your inventory costing, then you cannot change without justification and computations about the impact of the change.

The consistency principle is always in the background, but, possibly, your ability to navigate within and among the various accounting principles will get better with experience.

> On 05/30/2026 9:39 PM PDT Adam H. Kerman <ahk at chinet.com> wrote:
> 
> By consistently maintaining books, aren't we getting better at it?

From tydeman.fred at gmail.com  Sun May 31 04:32:06 2026
From: tydeman.fred at gmail.com (Fred Tydeman)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 16:32:06 +0800
Subject: [GNC] Advanced Portfolio report of basis
In-Reply-To: <10vgktl$3oh$1@ciao.gmane.io>
References: <CAK1r+o000UTEoeAi=vpHd_drZW1E1cnnmMF+8ifyXQM74Ew=zg@mail.gmail.com>
 <10vgktl$3oh$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Message-ID: <CAK1r+o3Jue-t=vKXAVz_r4k+3mFvKXksFx_TEZmY5L0jxDaoBg@mail.gmail.com>

If you do the sell/rebuy at the date of each return of capital,
that could mess up long term versus short term capital gains.

On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 2:37?PM Sherlock <sh025622 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Fred,
>
> The approach we use it to enter a transaction selling each lot's shares
> at their current cost basis, purchasing the same number of shares of
> each lot at their new cost basis, and recording the amount of capital
> returned to an income account for the security.  We use a separate
> transaction from the income account for the security to the account that
> receives the return of capital.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sherlock
>
>
> On 5/30/26 7:30 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> > I have a stock that has had a few Return of Capital transactions.
> > They have been recorded as sell of zero shares at zero price for the
> > Return of Capital dollar amount.
> >
> > When I look at the Advanced Portfolio report for that stock,
> > the Basis price is the original purchase amount.  I am expecting that
> > the Basis price to be original purchase amount - (sum of Return of
> Capital).
> >
> > Did I record Return of Capital wrong?
> > Is there a bug in the Advanced Portfolio?
> >
> > Is there a better way to find the basis of a stock?
> >
> > GnuCash 5.14 on Fedora Linux 44
>
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From pierre at kellerp.ch  Sun May 31 04:47:12 2026
From: pierre at kellerp.ch (Pierre Keller)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 10:47:12 +0200
Subject: [GNC] Import by AqBanking not working
In-Reply-To: <afe186511da5e57875e12875ce38c8ae@usselmann.de>
References: <afe186511da5e57875e12875ce38c8ae@usselmann.de>
Message-ID: <b16921a9-7dd6-45f4-badc-ca9830c9c950@kellerp.ch>

Le 29.05.2026 ? 10:37, Manfred Usselmann a ?crit?:
> 
> the file import function Import by Aqbanking does not work for me. I am using?GnuCash?5.15?with?Windows?11.
> 
> I am talking about just the file import, not the online banking functionality. After selecting e.g. the menu option to import Swift / MT940 or XML / camt53 data, I can choose a file to import and that's it. Nothing happens, the dialog simply closes. The 
> next step would be the selection of the account into which the data should be imported. I would expect?at?least??an?error?message.?But?nothing...
> 
> Anybody?else?having?this?issue?

Does the path contain any spaces?

-- 

    Pierre Keller
    3006 Bern

From hamlynt at gmail.com  Sun May 31 10:13:15 2026
From: hamlynt at gmail.com (Tamar Hamlyn)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 00:13:15 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Balance sheet (multicolumn) shows Assets != Liabilities
 due to rounding of foreign currency amounts
In-Reply-To: <CAK8B2thvPqfAw2ZoqQPQpkLxbgOvf6=9Vq=v481by+Ya3NgYRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK8B2thWNatnixZS9_eDPMD56cefkECOzsbPOk0htYJJ88SzTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK8B2thvPqfAw2ZoqQPQpkLxbgOvf6=9Vq=v481by+Ya3NgYRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK8B2thQ8wCfR0xQVu1FZX-LZU4wuZe6Q3ZNQJ71GfLWxcYZYQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is now being tracked as bug 799770:
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799770

On Fri, 29 May 2026 at 00:30, Tamar Hamlyn <hamlynt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Two additional screenshots (adding foreign currency amounts and
> exchange rates to both reports) might help show this more clearly,
> please refer attached.
>
>
> On Thu, 28 May 2026 at 19:32, Tamar Hamlyn <hamlynt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi GnuCash users,
> >
> > I searched the bug tracker but couldn't find this specific issue
> > documented below.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Tamar.
> >
> > Issue: Balance sheet (multicolumn) shows Assets != Liabilities due to
> > rounding of foreign currency amounts
> >
> > Version
> > -------
> > GnuCash 5.15, macOS
> >
> > Issue
> > -----
> > Generating a balance sheet (multicolumn) can produce asset total !=
> > liability total, due to rounding of foreign currency amounts. Standard
> > balance sheet is unaffected.
> >
> > Steps to reproduce
> > ------------------
> > A test gnucash file with transactions below is attached.
> >
> > New book:
> > Choose reporting currency: AUD
> >
> > New accounts under Current Assets:
> > Bank 1(JPY)
> > Bank 2(JPY)
> >
> > Existing Equity account:
> > Opening balances(AUD)
> >
> > Transactions (entering the AUD quantity in the "to amount" field in
> > the exchange rate window):
> > Bank 1: JPY 500k / Opening balances: AUD 3,333.33
> > Bank 2: JPY 200k / Opening balances: AUD 1,333.33
> >
> > Prices:
> > Tools, Price Database, expand Currencies to JPY, add a new
> > end-of-period exchange rate of:
> > 2026-06-30: 0.00666665
> >
> > Note the slight exchange rate difference with the transaction-derived
> > rate of 0.00666666. This difference is what triggers divergent
> > rounding between the two reports.
> >
> > Run report:
> > Balance sheet (multicolumn). Report Options, Commodities tab: set
> > reporting currency to AUD, set price source to last up through report
> > date.
> > For comparison, also run standard balance sheet. Apply same report
> > options in Commodities tab: set reporting currency to AUD, set price
> > source to last up through report date.
> >
> > Actual behaviour
> > ----------------
> > Balance sheet (multicolumn) does not balance: assets != liabilities.
> > Assets total from balance sheet report is: AUD 4,666.65
> > Liabilities total from balance sheet report is: AUD 4,666.66
> >
> > Note the 1 cent difference. Balance sheet (standard) displays correct
> > behaviour, assets and liabilities both total AUD 4,666.66.
> >
> > Desired behaviour
> > -----------------
> > Balance sheet should ALWAYS balance.
> >
> > If balance sheet totals do not match, this suggests an accounting
> > error and invites questions about errors or inaccuracies. It makes the
> > balance sheet report invalid by definition.
> >
> > Possible cause
> > --------------
> > The possible cause might relate to the multicolumn report using a
> > round-then-sum approach, while the standard report uses
> > sum-then-round.
> >
> > The current behaviour in balance sheet (multicolumn) is consistent
> > with the following:
> > - First convert child foreign currency amount to a corresponding
> > (rounded) amount in reporting currency. This involves multiple
> > conversions and applies rounding to every conversion.
> > - Then sum the resulting rounded reporting currency amounts to produce
> > intermediate and top-level reporting currency totals.
> > This approach accumulates rounding errors at each level in the account
> > hierarchy, which in turn results in the top-level discrepancy in
> > totals. It is a round-then-sum approach.
> >
> > Possible fix
> > ------------
> > If strict equality between assets and liability is desirable, then
> > balance sheet (multicolumn) report should instead do the following:
> > - First, determine all intermediate and top-level foreign currency
> > quantities, by aggregating all child foreign currency quantities at
> > each point in the account hierarchy.
> > - Convert each foreign currency total at each level in the account
> > hierarchy to the reporting currency amount as a single conversion.
> > Present these totals in the report.
> > This sum-then-round approach only performs a single rounding operation
> > as the last step at each level of the account hierarchy. This ensures
> > that maximum accuracy is retained for account totals, as they are
> > constructed directly from their local-currency components. Notably
> > this approach does not re-use rounded subtotals to construct parent
> > account amounts.
> >
> > Discussion
> > ----------
> > While the sum-then-round approach can ensure the balance sheet does
> > balance, it also means that report subtotals and totals may not
> > reflect the sum of their displayed sub-accounts and subtotals. Is it
> > desirable to prioritise line-item consistency over balance-sheet
> > equality?
> >
> > I'd be grateful for feedback from users or devs who have encountered
> > this issue, or who are familiar with the development history, who have
> > views either way on which approach might be preferred.
> >
> > Real-world impact
> > -----------------
> > The above rounding errors mean that a real-world balance sheet does
> > not balance in approximately 5 out of the past 10 years. The accounts
> > contain assets across around 6 foreign currencies, with relatively
> > infrequent changes in holdings throughout the history.
> >
> > There are no specific triggers for the mismatched balance sheet
> > totals, other than the randomness of rounding foreign currency
> > subtotals and their conversion at the relevant exchange rates in
> > effect at each balance sheet date.
> >
> > AI usage
> > --------
> > The explanation above was written by myself after testing the above
> > steps manually in GnuCash. I then ran my draft through Claude which
> > made minor changes to grammar and clarity of explanation.
> >
> > Attachments
> > -----------
> > 1 General Journal.png
> > 2 Balance Sheet Multicolumn.png
> > 3 Balance Sheet Standard.png
> > 4 test-balancesheet-multicolumn.gnucash (XML)

From iandhenry2 at gmail.com  Sun May 31 11:52:56 2026
From: iandhenry2 at gmail.com (Ian D Henry)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 11:52:56 -0400
Subject: [GNC] Split tax year transaction
In-Reply-To: <CAK1r+o0O58TXLoApGMoqV6TQDRrMxPD1R2T+Pvrt9=s8CABBLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK1r+o0O58TXLoApGMoqV6TQDRrMxPD1R2T+Pvrt9=s8CABBLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOBgMU4OR0=_y9SxZCsFppAV1ib0kHtfcHpNGK-1iZPkzWf0sw@mail.gmail.com>

I believe you could use the business part of gnucash. Create a customer and
enter a sale to it for the 2023 capital gain on 31Dec2023 and the 2024
transactions as at the date the dividend was paid. Receive the 63.00 for
those 3 invoices  on the date you received the dividend.  The 2023 gain
should show up on your 2023 income statement and the 2024 gain and div on
your 2024 statement.

Ian

Ian D Henry
5771 Hill Top Street
Crozet VA 22932
434 823 8600


On Sat, 30 May 2026 at 21:35, Fred Tydeman <tydeman.fred at gmail.com> wrote:

> How is one supposed to record the following:
> 63.00 One payment from a stock in January 2024
> 51.10 that is split as a capital gain in 2023
> 10.39 and a split as a capital gain in 2024
>   1.51 and a dividend payment in 2024
>
> The above numbers come from the 1099 tax reports for 2023 and 2024.
>
> The 63.00 deposit shows as just dividend in 2024 in the online transaction
> search.
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From sh025622 at gmail.com  Sun May 31 14:22:40 2026
From: sh025622 at gmail.com (Sherlock)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 11:22:40 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Advanced Portfolio report of basis
In-Reply-To: <CAK1r+o3Jue-t=vKXAVz_r4k+3mFvKXksFx_TEZmY5L0jxDaoBg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK1r+o000UTEoeAi=vpHd_drZW1E1cnnmMF+8ifyXQM74Ew=zg@mail.gmail.com>
 <10vgktl$3oh$1@ciao.gmane.io>
 <CAK1r+o3Jue-t=vKXAVz_r4k+3mFvKXksFx_TEZmY5L0jxDaoBg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10vhu9g$jgq$1@ciao.gmane.io>

We track the acquisition date separately as Gnucash only tracks 
transaction dates.

On 5/31/26 1:32 AM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> If you do the sell/rebuy at the date of each return of capital,
> that could mess up long term versus short term capital gains.
> 
> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 2:37?PM Sherlock <sh025622 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Fred,
>>
>> The approach we use it to enter a transaction selling each lot's shares
>> at their current cost basis, purchasing the same number of shares of
>> each lot at their new cost basis, and recording the amount of capital
>> returned to an income account for the security.  We use a separate
>> transaction from the income account for the security to the account that
>> receives the return of capital.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sherlock
>>
>>
>> On 5/30/26 7:30 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
>>> I have a stock that has had a few Return of Capital transactions.
>>> They have been recorded as sell of zero shares at zero price for the
>>> Return of Capital dollar amount.
>>>
>>> When I look at the Advanced Portfolio report for that stock,
>>> the Basis price is the original purchase amount.  I am expecting that
>>> the Basis price to be original purchase amount - (sum of Return of
>> Capital).
>>>
>>> Did I record Return of Capital wrong?
>>> Is there a bug in the Advanced Portfolio?
>>>
>>> Is there a better way to find the basis of a stock?
>>>
>>> GnuCash 5.14 on Fedora Linux 44
>>




From flywire0 at gmail.com  Sun May 31 18:15:42 2026
From: flywire0 at gmail.com (flywire)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 08:15:42 +1000
Subject: [GNC] Advanced Portfolio report of basis
Message-ID: <CAOthWL11DZvNUON8omN6vKB2y5bT-nx8ee7nzVQ67LxbGz-oxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sherlock,

I suppose "we" is you and your partner.

Fred described the process in
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/invest-retofcap.html
and I have the same expectation as him in the reporting.

> We track the acquisition date separately as Gnucash only tracks transaction dates.

I'd expect any share movement to be a transaction.
Regards

On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 2:37?PM Sherlock <sh025622 at gmail.com
<https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user>> wrote:

>* Hi Fred,
*>>* The approach we use it to enter a transaction selling each lot's shares
*>* at their current cost basis, purchasing the same number of shares of
*>* each lot at their new cost basis, and recording the amount of capital
*>* returned to an income account for the security.  We use a separate
*>* transaction from the income account for the security to the account that
*>* receives the return of capital.
*>>* Regards,
*>>* Sherlock
*>>>* On 5/30/26 7:30 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
*>* > I have a stock that has had a few Return of Capital transactions.
*>* > They have been recorded as sell of zero shares at zero price for the
*>* > Return of Capital dollar amount.
*>* >
*>* > When I look at the Advanced Portfolio report for that stock,
*>* > the Basis price is the original purchase amount.  I am expecting that
*>* > the Basis price to be original purchase amount - (sum of Return of
*>* Capital).
*>* >
*>* > Did I record Return of Capital wrong?
*>* > Is there a bug in the Advanced Portfolio?
*>* >
*>
* > Is there a better way to find the basis of a stock?*

From sh025622 at gmail.com  Sun May 31 21:39:23 2026
From: sh025622 at gmail.com (Sherlock)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 18:39:23 -0700
Subject: [GNC] Advanced Portfolio report of basis
In-Reply-To: <CAOthWL11DZvNUON8omN6vKB2y5bT-nx8ee7nzVQ67LxbGz-oxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOthWL11DZvNUON8omN6vKB2y5bT-nx8ee7nzVQ67LxbGz-oxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10vinsb$qbj$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Hi flywire,

Did you have a question?

Regards,

Sherlock

On 5/31/26 3:15 PM, flywire wrote:
> Sherlock,
> 
> I suppose "we" is you and your partner.

Yes. "We" is our household.

> 
> Fred described the process in
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/invest-retofcap.html
> and I have the same expectation as him in the reporting.

The approach described in the guide "works" but, in our opinion, not as 
well as the approach we use.  We're tracking cost basis by lot and using 
an income account for the security's return of capital.  The approach in 
the guide only provides an average cost basis.

> 
>> We track the acquisition date separately as Gnucash only tracks transaction dates.
> 
> I'd expect any share movement to be a transaction.

Fred's concern with our approach was with regard to reliably determining 
a lot's holding period.  This requires knowing the lot's acquisition 
date.  You might assume this is the date the lot was purchased - the 
date of the buy transaction, but that's only true in the "simple" case. 
Consider other transactions that impact the number of shares in a lot: 
stock mergers, spin-offs, splits, etc..

> Regards
> 
> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 2:37?PM Sherlock <sh025622 at gmail.com
> <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user>> wrote:
> 
>> * Hi Fred,
> *>>* The approach we use it to enter a transaction selling each lot's shares
> *>* at their current cost basis, purchasing the same number of shares of
> *>* each lot at their new cost basis, and recording the amount of capital
> *>* returned to an income account for the security.  We use a separate
> *>* transaction from the income account for the security to the account that
> *>* receives the return of capital.
> *>>* Regards,
> *>>* Sherlock
> *>>>* On 5/30/26 7:30 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> *>* > I have a stock that has had a few Return of Capital transactions.
> *>* > They have been recorded as sell of zero shares at zero price for the
> *>* > Return of Capital dollar amount.
> *>* >
> *>* > When I look at the Advanced Portfolio report for that stock,
> *>* > the Basis price is the original purchase amount.  I am expecting that
> *>* > the Basis price to be original purchase amount - (sum of Return of
> *>* Capital).
> *>* >
> *>* > Did I record Return of Capital wrong?
> *>* > Is there a bug in the Advanced Portfolio?
> *>* >
> *>
> * > Is there a better way to find the basis of a stock?*


