[GNC] Autosave question
Fred Tydeman
tydeman.fred at gmail.com
Fri Oct 9 10:54:18 EDT 2026
If you make your internet connection metered, that might stop Microsoft
doing updates.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 10:41 PM scum buster via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> I have been using a computer for home and work apps for probably about
> 40 years now -- I know the best practices.....but sometimes life gets in
> the way and an app stays open while I step away and get sidetracked
> etc....disconnecting it every time from the network isnt gonna
> happen.....honestly, I also have no idea why MS keeps "updating" when
> they clesarly said "you PC is no longer going to recieve updates"...but
> thats a different gripe for a different day. LOL
>
> I do NOT have the "prompt me" box checked as I said but DO have the
> "autosave" feature turned on. Attached a screenshot of that.
>
> The error only happens when I inadvertently do not manually save and
> leave the app running when Microsoft does an unanticipated forced update
> so it is random.....will post again next time it happens.
>
> Thanks for the input all
>
> D
>
>
>
> On 10/4/2026 10:01 AM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
> >
> > Attach a screen grab of your current settings (along with type and
> > version of the OS, and version of gnc) for auto save as that seems to
> > be incorrectly set. This will allow folks here to weigh in.
> >
> > From what you are saying, it seems like you have done the opposite of
> > what is required to auto-save.
> >
> > The main pertinent setting I can see (others can keep me honest here)
> > is “Show auto-save confirmation question.” and if you “checked” that
> > then it is doing exactly as it says – its prompting you to save; not
> > automagically save. Secondary important settings for auto-save are the
> > “Auto-save time interval” which should be set reasonable (I keep it at
> > 5 mins) and “Retain log/backup files” which should be set reasonable
> > as well (I keep it at 10 days) but this will consume more disk space.
> > None of these time intervals should be less than one if you want them
> > to be effective.
> >
> > If you have checked “Enable timeout on ‘Save changes on exit’
> > question” set to value greater than 1 then it is waiting that many
> > seconds with a prompt when quitting the program (which is what Windows
> > reboot will do – graceful shutdown of the application before killing
> > the process) before it will exit **without** saving if you don’t
> > respond within that time period. This is what your system seems to be
> > configured for doing.
> >
> > Also if you know that M$ is installing updates in the background
> > without your knowledge, you can either run the computer off the
> > network (by pulling the cord out from the network card) and prevent
> > that or why leave any application open and running without saving
> > anything when you know that for fact? I get that some of the
> > commercial apps (such as M$ Office) have ability to pick up from where
> > you left off after reboot but that is not true of the entire universe
> > of apps. You are looking to invite trouble if you are doing that as it
> > is not the best practice to leave any app open with data files still
> > in use.
> >
> > *From:*scum buster <scumbuster at comcast.net>
> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 03, 2026 6:37 PM
> > *To:* Kalpesh Patel <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>; 'Clint Chaplin'
> > <joatmon at gmail.com>
> > *Cc:* 'Robert Heller' <heller at deepsoft.com>; 'David T.'
> > <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>; gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Autosave question
> >
> > It has NEVER prompted me to save.......I have that popup turned off in
> > the setting. I have the "autosave" option checked.
> >
> > On 10/2/2026 8:41 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
> >
> > If it pops up and you don’t take any action to save then all those
> > transactions accumulated since last save will stay pending to be
> > saved; you’ll have to click on File àSave to persist them on to
> > the disk at your choosing. This would be also the case for when it
> > is shutting down because the shutdown process will kill the
> > process without saving. If you are automagically looking for the
> > system to press yes for that prompt when you asked for it to
> > prompt you then it is not going to do it for you. That dialogue is
> > for you to take the action; not for the system.
> >
> > Understand the ramifications of not setting up to automatically
> > save and have it prompt to you for saving it very thoroughly.
> > While option is there to prompt for save, it makes little sense in
> > normal use case by a laymen to not automatically save all the time
> > at certain interval rather than prompt for it.
> >
> > Knowing how GNC behaves, when you said “One of the options was to
> > save this time, one was to sautomagically save all the time
> > without asking, etc. I still have it pop up.” that is likely that
> > the setting you select during that pop up it is only good going
> > forward for that session of the GNC run and not saved persistently
> > to the disk. Once you exit and relaunch, it will re-read setting
> > from the disk and return back to prompting unless you go into Edit
> > àPreferences àGeneral and setup auto-save settings. If you uncheck
> > ‘Show auto-save confirmation question’ in there, it will always
> > save at that interval without prompting (auto save does **not**
> > overwrite existing file; it creates a new file with a timestamp in
> > the name of the file). Right underneath is also setting to timeout
> > display of that “save now” pop-up so if you do not act within that
> > allotted prompt time and system ends up dismissing it due to time
> > out then it won’t save and all changes accumulated since last save
> > will be pending to be saved as well.
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > *From:*Clint Chaplin <joatmon at gmail.com> <mailto:joatmon at gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2026 8:05 PM
> > *To:* Kalpesh Patel <kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
> > <mailto:kalpesh.patel at usa.net>
> > *Cc:* scum buster <scumbuster at comcast.net>
> > <mailto:scumbuster at comcast.net>; Robert Heller
> > <heller at deepsoft.com> <mailto:heller at deepsoft.com>; David T.
> > <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> <mailto:sunfish62 at yahoo.com>;
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Autosave question
> >
> > One other possibility; the default setup on my windows
> > installation was to pop up a window when autosave was triggered to
> > ask the user what to do. One of the options was to save this
> > time, one was to sautomagically save all the time without asking,
> > etc. I still have it pop up. If that option is enabled, what
> > happens when shut down?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2026 at 4:56 PM Kalpesh Patel
> > <kalpesh.patel at usa.net> wrote:
> >
> > That sounds like your backend storage might be the cloud
> > storage or you
> > have very old drive that is not flushing cache before powering
> > down.
> > Assuming it is Intel pc, make sure BIOS settings for hard
> > drive is set to
> > AHCI mode and set it as removable or hot swappable drive type
> > which should
> > force it to flush cache upon power down command is sent to it.
> >
> > -----
> > Excuse the typos. It's the mobile thingy!
> >
> >
> >
> > On October 2, 2026 6:59:05 PM scum buster
> > <scumbuster at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have it set to autosave and apparantly it ISNT
> > autosaving.....its not
> > > just one transaction that gets lost...its a bunch, which
> > were done
> > > during my last session (if I did not manually save it).
> > >
> > > On 10/1/2026 5:56 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
> > >> I have the pre-build binaries of the 4.14 version running
> > on Windows and it
> > >> auto saves as well. If anything it would only be the
> > current in-flight
> > >> transaction not saved.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2026 2:29 PM
> > >> To: David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
> > >> Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org; David Carlson
> > <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>; ?
> > >> scum buster <scumbuster at comcast.net>
> > >> Subject: Re: [GNC] Autosave question
> > >>
> > >> I'm still using a built-from-source 4.14, and the auto-save
> > does in fact
> > >> save the file.
> > >>
> > >> At Thu, 01 Oct 2026 21:42:17 +0530 "David T."
> > <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I don't use this feature, but the documentation very
> > clearly states:
> > >>>
> > >>> "Auto-save time interval: This field sets the number of
> > minutes between
> > >> each automatic saving of the file. Set to 0 to disable the
> > auto-save
> > >> feature."
> > >>> This (and the name of the preference) would strongly
> > suggest that the
> > >> feature is supposed to, ahem, *save* the file in question,
> > and not just toss
> > >> up a reminder.
> > >>> But, I'm sure I've misread things.
> > >>>
> > >>> David T.
> > >>>
> > >>> On October 1, 2026 8:50:27 PM GMT+05:30, David Carlson
> > >> <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> iirc, auto save is only a reminder, not an action.
> > However, you
> > >>>> should be able to import transactions entered after the
> > last manual
> > >>>> save using the replay logs feature.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2026 at 7:56C"B
> > >
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