2020-07-21 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:06:46 <fell> jralls, I get gnc_print_unstable_message always displayed in German despite what is set in LANG. Later LANG is respected.
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00:31:08 <jralls_laptop> fell, I think that's because gjanssens reset everything in the new C++ startup code to use boost::locale but he doesn't pass gnc_get_locale to every use, including that one. It might also be a timing issue, that until gnc_get_locale is called it's picking up the LC_FOO you have set in your environment.
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04:26:15 <sunyibo> what is a good way to access one account hierarchy on gnucash from several computers? I use two laptops. Should I copy the files back and forth, rsync, git, remote storage, etc.?
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04:31:27 <grepular> I've been using https://syncthing.net/
04:31:55 <grepular> I was already using it to sync various documents between my computers anyway, so figured I'd just stick my gnucash data on top of that. It has worked since I started doing it. But I've only been doing it for a few days
04:32:19 <grepular> Well, I've been using syncthing for much longer, but gnucash only for a few days
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04:36:25 <sunyibo> thanks
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04:56:41 <sunyibo> how do I find the folder where gnucash is installed on linux? I'm following https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/invest-stockprice1.html#invest-stockprice-auto-configure3 , but searching for gnc-fq-update doesn't return any hits
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05:13:02 <fell> sunyibo: gnc-fq-update is for updating F::Q and its dependencies, noz quotes.
05:13:37 <fell> How about 'which gnc-fq-dump' ?
05:17:39 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes should have some additional infos.
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06:12:32 <chris> CDB-Man_ as a rule we don't want to populate pricedb without user intervention. So, price conversions in reports will never seek online quotes. If pricedb doesn't exist for split-date it'll use nearest applicable pricedb entry.
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07:26:12 <sunyibo> fell: thanks! the 'which' command worked
07:26:48 <sunyibo> why is the online quote feature not installed/enabled by default?
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08:19:39 <j00bar> Howdy, folks! Question of best-practices. We're a non-profit receiving a cash loan. It is not to purchase an asset, however we need to track what we spend the loaned money on to report back to the lender.
08:21:01 <j00bar> I know a loan should be a transaction between a liability account for the loan and an asset account. But in this case it seems like I need more: the cash in our bank account, the liability of the loan principal outstanding, and some other account for how much of the lent funds remain.
08:21:08 <j00bar> What's the best practice here?
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08:28:49 <warlord> j00bar, you might have better luck asking on the gnucash-user mailing list. I know there are people there that do non-profit accounting work.
08:29:55 <warlord> One possible way is to use a subaccount in your bank to keep track. You might need to use duplicate transactions to keep track of the asset vs the loan (how you used the cash, vs paying back the loan)
08:30:27 <warlord> So perhaps start with Liabilities:Loans:This Loan -> Assets:Bank:Checking:This Loan
08:30:54 <warlord> And then use the respective accounts to show how you spend the money (from the asset) and pay back the loan (to the liability)
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08:31:02 <warlord> good luck. I gotta run for a bit,
08:31:36 <j00bar> Cool - thank you - I'll definitely ask over in gnucash-users.
08:32:10 <j00bar> And I appreciate the suggestion. I had that thought, but the bank account ledger balance would be off compared to what the bank reports, and if we can avoid that, I'd rather, you know?
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09:20:24 <warlord> j00bar, why would the bank account ledger be off?
09:20:31 <warlord> Just include subaccounts.
09:20:37 <warlord> And the reports will roll up the totals.
09:23:11 <j00bar> Right - the reports will definitely work - but for example in the register it will not report the right total - unless I'm mistaken?
09:25:40 <sunyibo> I'm having trouble updating stock quotes from outside the US. Microsoft works fine with alphavantage. But something like Givaudan, ISIN CH0010645932, doesn't show up, if I run 'gnc-fq-dump sixshares CH0010645932'. Any help?
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10:26:17 <chris> lol
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12:58:40 <fell> sunyibo, alphavantage seems to have problems recently. I would use yahoo_json instead.
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13:04:21 <fell> sunyibo, https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2020-July/092015.html
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15:26:05 <warlord> j00bar, sorry, was gone for a while. If you Open Subaccounts then it should give you the correct list of transactions, but you're right that it might not give you the correct running balance. Note that this is why there is the Reconcile function, to reconcile your accounting with periodic bank statements.
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17:01:42 <sunyibo> fell: This works for me 'ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY=****** gnc-fq-dump alphavantage MSFT', this doesn't 'gnc-fq-dump yahoo_json GB00B24CGK77'
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18:14:45 <fell> sunyibo, without researchI would expect GBxxx is raded in London, not in the US.
18:15:14 <fell> Try GB…,L
18:17:33 <fell> Other markets are listed in the help apendix.
18:18:19 <fell> Typo: Append ".L"
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