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00:20:03 <fell> jralls, can you add an entry about ARM/APR from loan assistant to glossary?
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09:29:04 <chris_> jralls: see the #831 log - search ==> or "github actions" in the test log.
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09:29:37 <chris> not sure why gnc_dmy2time64 would be timesensitive if we jiggle the guile modules
09:30:11 <chris> and I can't reproduce locally which means I can't test bug fix easily - and it's too tedious to push commits and retest from github actions
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09:45:30 <chris> jralls: I've repushed to highlight the offending function gnc_dmy2time64 only
09:46:00 <chris> also cleaned up to remove #:export to use (export ...) only
09:57:32 <warlord> what do you mean by "timesensitive"?
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12:19:00 <fell> jralls, forget https://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2020/12/06.html#T00:20:03. I found it.
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12:26:49 <warlord> jralls, so apparently I might need to reinstall to update the host cert!! :-( I was pointed to another option to try to manually update the cert(s), so I plan to research that. In the meantime, they suggested trying to use NoVNC for the console, which did work for me. Can you try that? Does that work for you?
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13:27:07 <jralls> warlord, No joy. I followed these instructions: https://linux-nerd.tech/getting-novnc-running-on-fedora-31/ and tried to connect to https://ovirt.ihtfp.org/ovirt-engine/web-ui/:6080/. I just get an empty page.
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13:29:22 <jralls> If I run it back to just ovirt.ihtfp.org:6080 I get "unable to connect".
13:34:45 <jralls> https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/virt/novnc-console.html suggests that there should be a VNC option on https://ovirt.ihtfp.org/ovirt-engine/web-ui/?locale=en_US but there's only spice and RDP.
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15:45:21 <giuseppef> good evening, I am still working on Italian translation: I need to know the meaning of the string "Income Tax Identity"; is it referred to the tax or to the individual?
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16:17:09 <jralls> giuseppef, it is the title of the dialog box that sets the taxpayer name and type of tax return (personal/partnership/corporate/trust) for Edit>Tax Report Options.
16:22:09 <warlord> jralls, that's not going to work. You need to go through the standard ovirt ui and start the console -- but... maybe as a user you don't get the option to configure the console type?
16:23:10 <jralls> warlord, like I said, the only choices are spice and remote desktop, no VNC... Or is remote desktop on Windows actually VNC?
16:25:44 <jralls> And if it's vnc I probably need to reconfigure the novnc ports. But that raises NAT questions: Which end is sending the SYN? Do I need to set up a port redirect in my router?
16:25:52 <warlord> No, RPD != VNC. I just noticed VNC wasn't enabled, only Spice. I changed that, but it requires restarting the VM.
16:26:30 <warlord> You don't need to do anything; NoVNC is an HTML5-based solution that runs through the Ovirt proxy.
16:27:17 <warlord> Do you want me to restart the VM now?
16:27:26 <warlord> Or I suppose you can....
16:27:42 <giuseppef> jralls: thanks, I think my translation should be however fixed. I translated it as "Codice Fiscale" that is a tax code assigned to each tax person in Italy (individual or not)
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16:52:32 <giuseppef> I am trying to use a multicolumn profit and loss record. Is there a way, in the multi-period report, to have the most recent period in the first column (I mean to invert period order in columns from latest to oldest)
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17:00:39 <warlord> jralls, so I've built a new certificate, but apparently I need to restart the host hypervisor system for it to take effect.
17:01:58 <jralls> warlord, That's not too surprising. I suppose that will drop all services for however long it takes to restart. Prolly nobody will notice unless of course it doesn't restart.
17:02:39 <warlord> Right.
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17:03:26 <warlord> Still, I will go plan a reboot.
17:23:35 <warlord> Dammit -- I just cause a failure by re-using the issuer/serial...
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17:45:23 <chris> jralls: i find it difficult to see gnc:account-get-balances at dates fail - all it does it listprocessing and arithmetic; have you seen the different gnc_dmy2time64 outputs?
17:45:34 <chris> (haven't run your modifications yet)
17:45:58 <warlord> jralls, fell -- check your email about ovirt.
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17:47:11 <fell> Coward! ;-)
17:49:26 <chris> jralls: I'll add your changes and try again anyway
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18:12:12 <fell> warlord: SEC_ERROR_REUSED_ISSUER_AND_SERIAL
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18:18:50 <fell> giuseppef, this week I will heavily work on gnucash.pot. If you like, you can in between review https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-htdocs/blob/master/po/it.po
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18:22:02 <giuseppef> Ok, fell. I am updating some strings from maint
18:22:36 <giuseppef> I will need your help with git stuff
18:22:55 <fell> There is no maint, only master and beta.
18:24:06 <giuseppef> give me a hint:
18:24:11 <giuseppef> first: $ git remote -v
18:24:11 <giuseppef> origin https://github.com/MocioF/gnucash (fetch)
18:24:11 <giuseppef> origin https://github.com/MocioF/gnucash (push)
18:24:11 <giuseppef> upstream https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash (fetch)
18:24:11 <giuseppef> upstream https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash (push)
18:24:41 <giuseppef> then i did git fetch upstream
18:25:10 <giuseppef> now I am working on my gnucash/po/it.po
18:25:18 <giuseppef> is it right?
18:25:29 <chris> giuseppef this is right
18:26:02 <fell> But it will be less painful in a week.
18:26:16 <giuseppef> ok, I have a question on a term now: Equity.
18:26:51 <fell> Passiva is divided in equity and liability.
18:28:15 <giuseppef> In Italian, we use "Capitale" to indicate equity paid/subscribed from shareholders and "Patrmonio Netto" to indicate the aggregate that is the difference between Assets and Liabilities. In this aggregate is there "Capitale" too.
18:29:14 <giuseppef> Can you confirm in gnucash the term "equity" is used with both meanings?
18:29:22 <chris> giuseppef: I think so
18:30:26 <giuseppef> Is there a way in .po files to translate the same term with two different translations?
18:30:53 <fell> I found https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stato_patrimoniale
18:31:45 <fell> It is possible if the rpgrammers define a MsgContext.
18:32:11 <giuseppef> yes this is a legal scheme for "balance sheet"
18:33:22 <giuseppef> If you look at the image, you see that the first session of Liabilities is labelles as "Patrmionio netto"; than the first subsection is "Capitale sociale" (or "capitale")
18:34:19 <giuseppef> So in Patrimonio Netto ar "Capitale", Utili a nuovo (Retained earnings), et
18:35:31 <fell> Yes, A is equity and D is liability. For the others I have to think (and translate)
18:37:14 <fell> … and compare with https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilanz#Aufbau_der_Bilanz
18:41:45 <giuseppef> Another question: Italian governement as just released a book model for no profit organizations. I have created it in my book (I am keeping books for one of them). Is there a way to contribute it to gnucash?
18:42:46 <giuseppef> https://www.gazzettaufficiale.it/atto/serie_generale/caricaArticolo?art.progressivo=0&art.idArticolo=1&art.versione=1&art.codiceRedazionale=20A02158&art.dataPubblicazioneGazzetta=2020-04-18&art.idGruppo=0&art.idSottoArticolo1=10&art.idSottoArticolo=1&art.flagTipoArticolo=1#art
18:44:19 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation#How_to_translate_the_files_containing_the_new_account_hierarchies and https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Account_Hierarchy_Template
18:46:08 <fell> In you caase https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Account_Hierarchy_Template#Convert_the_Example_into_a_Template
18:47:11 <giuseppef> I will study them. Thanks. See you next week
18:50:28 <fell> See you!
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18:53:15 <fell> @tell giuseppef About the passivo, can you ask a CPA, where the other letters belong?
18:53:15 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
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19:21:16 <chris> CDB: soon you'll be writing lisp in no time: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/excel-blog/announcing-lambda-turn-excel-formulas-into-custom-functions/ba-p/1925546
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20:25:01 <warlord> fell, yes, I know. You need to remove the cert from your browser and download the new one.
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