[GNC-dev] Mouse usage in Gnucash
tommy.trussell at gmail.com
Sat Oct 12 19:13:47 EDT 2019
The Gnome Documentation Style Gude says to refer to Left, Middle, and Right
mouse buttons or clicks
KMymoney seems to use the same or similar convention
I know one of the things that generated the discussion was concern about
tablets, touchpads, touchscreens or other non-mouse interactions... so I
looked for the Android documentation style guide. My interpretation is they
encourage writers to emphasize the task more than the mechanics.
I had some more thoughts but I want to ponder them more carefully...
And before I put my foot in my mouth... is there already a GnuCash
documentation Style Guide, or some suggestions for writers? I vaguely
recall seeing something, but I may be mistaken.
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 6:30 AM David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> Are there examples in other major applications to compare to?
> David Carlson
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 11:33 PM D via gnucash-devel <
> gnucash-devel at gnucash.org> wrote:
> > On October 12, 2019, at 3:45 AM, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:26 PM, David Cousens <davidcousens at bigpond.com
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Do we by any chance have some sort of standard description of mouse
> > usage in
> > >> GNuCash on the various OS.
> > >>
> > >> I am updating documentation. Docbooks has tags for description of
> > >> operations. With configurable mouses for LH or RH operation terms
> > Left
> > >> Click and Right Click start to become ambiguous. DocBooks has tags for
> > >> <mousebutton>. In a review of some recent changes Frank suggested
> > >> Button1, Button2 and Button 3 rather than Left, Middle and Right to
> > avoid
> > >> the LH/RH mouse conundrum. I haven't been able to find anything in
> > >> documentation re input devices but I could have missed it
> > >>
> > >> Two of my mice have 6 buttons and two scroll wheels (basic config is
> a 2
> > >> button + central scroll/button) and another only has 2 buttons and a
> > single
> > >> scroll wheel/button. Linux Mint can configure that for LH operation,
> > >> emulation of a centre button by pressing both buttons together,
> > scrolling
> > >> reversal and double click timeout and I presume most OSs will have
> > something
> > >> similar. Then we go to Macs and we have single buttons and magic mice
> > >> contend with. Then there are tablets and touchpads and gestures.
> > >> seems to support a wide range
> > >> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/chap-input-handling.html and
> > does
> > >> interpret the scroll wheel appropriately on my mice but the wheel
> > >> inserts "another" each time it is pressed while editing a transaction
> > in a
> > >> register - not too useful.
> > >>
> > >> It is clearly far too onerous to describe all possible mice/input
> > >> variations.
> > >>
> > >> My own preference would to perhaps settle on a fairly common 2 button
> > >> basic mouse and keyboard configuration and describe operations in
> > of
> > >> that. Perhaps then offer in a wiki section some translations from this
> > >> configuration to other configurations like track pads that could be
> > >> populated by users. I think Left (Centre) Right for a RH mouse is
> > likely to
> > >> be far less confusing to translate than a "Button1 Button2, Button3
> > where
> > >> it is totally ambiguous whether the mouse is LH RH or upside down.
> > >>
> > >David,
> > >The middle-button behavior on Linux is an X-Windows thing: The right
> > button begins a selection, the left button completes the selection, and
> > middle button pastes the selection. I don't know if Wayland has that
> > behavior as well. Gtk has a GdkSelection class to try to provide it on
> > other Ones but it was implemented only partly on Windows and not at all
> > MacOS. It's been deprecated for some time.
> > >If you don't like "left click" or "click button 1", how about "primary
> > click" and "secondary click"? You could even say "primary click/tap" to
> > include the touchpad users.
> > >I don't think that it's particularly useful for our documentation to try
> > to teach users the basics of using their computers, and explaining
> > everything at that level quickly gets tiresome for the majority of users
> > who know how to click a button, select some text, or open a context menu.
> > >Regards,
> > >John Ralls
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> > +1 to John's comments.
> > I think it best to focus on the task, rather than the specific mechanics.
> > David T.
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