[GNC-dev] STP (Australia only)

Liz edodd at billiau.net
Sat Sep 14 23:39:20 EDT 2019

On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:37:51 +0000
Christopher Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:

> No immediate need for STP myself, but I am sure that a derivative of
> income-gst-statement.scm can handle this easily.
> If the payroll accounts are well defined and diligently written, then
> it'll be easy to export periodic sums as csv (or XBRL if desired).
> C
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 09:33, Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:
> > STP, or single touch payroll, is something thought up by the
> > bureaucrats to be sure we pay our way. It has some aspects in common
> > with the UK's making tax digital.
> >
> > This is supposed to be running already, but people like me, who own
> > the company and pay only themselves, have a little more time before
> > they are obliged to sign up.
> >
> > So far, I am learning a lot of new jargon.
> > The data to be transferred needs setting out in a csv file (I
> > understand that)
> > The data is converted to XBRL (new to me)
> > The data is transmitted using ebMS3/AS4 security (new to me)
> >
> > A receipt is generated and returned (no new acronyms here)
> >
> > There are a number of companies offering to be the middleman in
> > these processes. Some are free, others are not. Most of them offer
> > payroll, which I neither need nor want.
> >
> > I looked at some which were apparently Linux friendly and found jar
> > files that would not run, and AppImage and Snap files that wouldn't
> > work either.
> >
> > Questions
> > Are other Australian Gnucash users dealing with this, or still
> > stalling like me?
> > Are there any preferred solutions that anyone on the list has tried?
> > If I can find out the csv format required, would it be helpful to
> > any users to be able to export this automatically from Gnucash? I
> > could construct mine by hand and just copy it every month, so I am
> > not needing this myself.
> >
> > Liz
> >

From what I have determined so far the data list would include

individual's 	TFN
		Gross pay 
		Tax remitted
		Superannuation remitted
		Superannuation messaging house identity

There are options for specifying bank accounts to which remitted, and I
think the main purpose of that is the construction of an ABA file to
send to the employer's bank to make the payments.

More experimentation as I explore will provide answers.
I think producing the XBRL directly would be best. This could then
allow a small company to directly access a service like Ozedi, which
offers a service where a small company can buy credits with them in

I haven't explored other providers like
https://www.obsecuremessaging.com mainly because their site doesn't
contain much information.


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