saving to floppy

Sat Apr 12 18:21:36 CDT 2003

I tried the rpm -ivh --test on GnuCash 1.8.2-1mdk, got this result. 
"libgnucash0 >= 1.8.2-1mdk is needed by gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk" Can't find this 
file, even at the cooker you gave me.
Oh well. I'll keep looking.

Ray Salemink
raysaleminkK at hotmail.com

----Original Message Follows----
From: Tim Meador <tmeador at kc.rr.com>
To: Ray Salemink <raysalemink at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: saving to floppy
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:59:03 -0500

Ray,

Maybe I can help a little, I've used Mandrake for a couple of years.
Overall, I think the best thing to do if you need to run the 1.8 version
is to install not 1.8.1 which has broken QIF, but 1.8.2, which has QIF fixed
so that it should work fine like in 1.6.  You can get a rpm from Mandrake
Cooker here:

ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm

Download and save the file to a handy place, say /home/Ray/temp or
/home/Ray/download/GnuCash, whatever.

Now open a terminal and su to root (become root) by typing "su" at your user
prompt (sorry if you know this part, but I'm just making sure):

[ray at ray ray]$ su

Hit enter, it will answer "password:".  Type your root password and hit 
enter:

password:rootpassword

This will change the prompt to "#", so you will see something like this:

[root at ray ray]#

Now change to the directory you saved the GnuCash rpm to:

[root at ray ray]# cd /home/ray/temp (or wherever)

You should get:

[root at ray temp]#

Now to install.  Before I go into that I should warn you that Cooker rpms 
are
just a little risky as they are development versions, but it should install 
on
9.1 fine.  To make sure, do a test install first (doesn't actually do
anything, just checks dependencies and conflicts).  From # type:

#rpm -ivh --test gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm

If your get no errors, you're good to go.  Remove the "--test" and
install the rpm.  If you get messages about missing dependencies, etc., you
could also try installing 1.8.1 first, letting the Mandrake installer
handle that stuff, and then upgrading to 1.8.2 by using urpmi as in:

#urpmi -v gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm

You can, of course, add the "--test" parameter to that to test it out
first.  Mandrake's urpmi is a terrific tool, but if possible I'd think a 
clean
install of 1.8.2 would be preferable.

I don't know if you can install 1.6.7 from 9.0 on 9.1.  My guess would be 
no, but that's strictly a guess.
To try, find the 1.6.7 rpm on your Mandrake discs and try installing it as
described above.

Any more questions about manually installing rpms might be answered by
$man rpm or $man urpmi.  It's easy once you get the hang of it.

Just a hint:  When you install make /home a seperate partition.  Then when 
you
reinstall, just don't reformat the /home partition and your personal 
settings
and stuff are saved, and picked right up by the new install.

As for using the installer (actually DiskDrake) to resize and format part of
your main NTFS drive to Linux...well, I haven't done it 'cause it doesn't
apply to me, but I haven't heard of any problems, and I've never had any
trouble on FAT32 disks.  Mandrake's the only distro that will do NTFS and 
it's
a new feature in DisDrake so I don't really blame you for being a little
scared to try it.  I'd do backups first...

Hope this helps...I know what it was like moving to Linux...but it's
well worth it!

* Ray Salemink <raysalemink at hotmail.com> [2003-04-12 10:36]:
 > I so appreciate the quick response you give. I will try to explain more
 > fully.
 >
 > I had installed MDK 9.1, with the updated Mozilla, because the previous 
one
 > in MDK9 had some problems with entering user names on some sites.I also
 > liked the new support MDK 9.1 has for my video card, a GeForce MX420. But
 > the problem with the QIFs import showed up with GnuCash 1.8.1. So I
 > reinstalled MDK 9, with GnuCash 1.6.7, and QIF import was PERFECT! (this 
is
 > how newbies do things, because we don't know a lot yet). I now have 
things
 > just the way I want them in GnuCash with the accounts.
 >
 > I see that my file for the present Gnucash (1.6.7) is 1.5 MG, so it won't
 > fit on the floppy.
 >
 > So, what I thought I could save the present file from 1.6.7 to floppy,
 > reinstall MDK 9.1, and open that file in GnuCash 1.8.1. INstalling MDK 
9.1
 > means erasing my spare HD and starting all over, which is the one I am
 > using to try out Linux. I am still somewhat "chicken" to use my main HD
 > which has XP on it. Otherwise, I would install MDK 9.1 on it, and figure
 > out how to access the 1.6.7 file on the other HD.
 >
 > I am still not very knowledeable with using Linux. Don't know if putting 
it
 > on the main drive will screw up the MBR, or whatever else could happen.
 > (Can you spell "yellow streak?"). I also thought about trying MDK 9.1's
 > supposed ability to repartition XP's NTFS, but chicken again.
 >
 > So I thought I had two options.
 > 1) Backup the file I now have in 1.6.7 in MDK 9 to floppy. Install MDK 
9.1,
 > and open the file saved on flopy in 1.8.1.
 >
 > OR 2)Install 1.6.7 from the MDK 9 CDs on MDK 9.1, open the file, save it,
 > uninstall 1.6.7, and install 1.8.1 and open the file. But I don't know 
how
 > to install a package from one version into another one.
 >
 > Sorry for the length, and I appreciate your patience.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU>
 > To: "Ray Salemink" <raysalemink at hotmail.com>
 > CC: gnucash-user at lsits.gnucash.org
 > Subject: Re: saving to floppy
 > Date: 12 Apr 2003 10:46:26 -0400
 >
 > "Ray Salemink" <raysalemink at hotmail.com> writes:
 >
 > > If the data file has the extension, .xac, then yes I did. And as far
 > > as I know, it was not compressed, i'm not even sure how to do that. I
 > > tried it two ways, by right clicking on the file in Konquerer and
 > > moving the file to disc, and using a command line to "cp" the file to
 > > floppy. Both times, the file was there on the floppy. This floppy was
 > > formatted by Windows ME, by the way.
 >
 > How large is your data file?  Also note that floppies are notoriously
 > buggy and bit-rotting.
 >
 > > I also tried clicking "File," then "Save as" and named it with my
 > > initials. Then, I closed and reopened GnuCash, tried to open that
 > > file, and it said it couldn't read it because it needed a newer
 > > version of GnuCash.
 >
 > That's VERY strange, indeed.  You do File -> Save As, select some
 > file, kill gnucash, restart gnucash, try to load the newly-saved
 > file and it doesn't load it properly?!?!?  Is this in 1.6 or 1.8?
 >
 > > SEcond question: THere is a long list of files that are saved in the
 > > home directory with .xac and .log as extensions. CAn i delete previous
 > > ones? I see that in the code there is a date.
 >
 > Yep, you can delete any .log file and any backup .xac file.  Indeed,
 > gnucash-1.8 will auto-delete the backup files after 30 days (you can
 > set this to a shorter date if you wish).
 >
 > > What I was trying to do was install GnuCash 1.6.7, read the QIFs in,
 > > save it to floppy, then remove 1.6.7, and install 1.8.1, and read the
 > > saved data file.
 >
 > Sure, but why do you need to save to a floppy to do this?  Just
 > replace gnucash and all will be happy.
 >
 > > Although, I really don't have a reason for doing this. I simply am
 > > thrilled with 1.6.7, and really don't need the scheduler, because you
 > > have done a wonderful job of making hte "duplicate" button work so
 > > well. It' almost better than a scheduler.
 >
 > Gnucash 1.8 has a LOT of bugs fixed, and you wont get any support from
 > the developers if you run into a problem on 1.6.  That alone should be
 > a reason to upgrade.
 >
 > > THanks again for your help
 > >
 > >
 > > Ray Salemink
 > > raysalemink at hotmail.com
 >
 > -derek
 >
 > --
 >        Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
 >        Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board  (SIPB)
 >        URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/    PP-ASEL-IA     N1NWH
 >        warlord at MIT.EDU                        PGP key available
 >
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