saving to floppy

Derek Atkins warlord at MIT.EDU
Sat Apr 12 22:57:06 CDT 2003


You don't want to use 'ivh' to upgrade -- you want to use -Uvh

-derek

"Ray Salemink" <raysalemink at hotmail.com> writes:

> I tried the rpm -ivh --test on GnuCash 1.8.2-1mdk, got this
> result. "libgnucash0 >= 1.8.2-1mdk is needed by gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk"
> Can't find this file, even at the cooker you gave me.
> Oh well. I'll keep looking.
> 
> Ray Salemink
> raysaleminkK at hotmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Tim Meador <tmeador at kc.rr.com>
> To: Ray Salemink <raysalemink at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: saving to floppy
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:59:03 -0500
> 
> Ray,
> 
> Maybe I can help a little, I've used Mandrake for a couple of years.
> Overall, I think the best thing to do if you need to run the 1.8 version
> is to install not 1.8.1 which has broken QIF, but 1.8.2, which has QIF fixed
> so that it should work fine like in 1.6.  You can get a rpm from Mandrake
> Cooker here:
> 
> ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
> 
> Download and save the file to a handy place, say /home/Ray/temp or
> /home/Ray/download/GnuCash, whatever.
> 
> Now open a terminal and su to root (become root) by typing "su" at your user
> prompt (sorry if you know this part, but I'm just making sure):
> 
> [ray at ray ray]$ su
> 
> Hit enter, it will answer "password:".  Type your root password and
> hit enter:
> 
> password:rootpassword
> 
> This will change the prompt to "#", so you will see something like this:
> 
> [root at ray ray]#
> 
> Now change to the directory you saved the GnuCash rpm to:
> 
> [root at ray ray]# cd /home/ray/temp (or wherever)
> 
> You should get:
> 
> [root at ray temp]#
> 
> Now to install.  Before I go into that I should warn you that Cooker
> rpms are
> just a little risky as they are development versions, but it should
> install on
> 9.1 fine.  To make sure, do a test install first (doesn't actually do
> anything, just checks dependencies and conflicts).  From # type:
> 
> #rpm -ivh --test gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
> 
> If your get no errors, you're good to go.  Remove the "--test" and
> install the rpm.  If you get messages about missing dependencies, etc., you
> could also try installing 1.8.1 first, letting the Mandrake installer
> handle that stuff, and then upgrading to 1.8.2 by using urpmi as in:
> 
> #urpmi -v gnucash-1.8.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
> 
> You can, of course, add the "--test" parameter to that to test it out
> first.  Mandrake's urpmi is a terrific tool, but if possible I'd think
> a clean
> install of 1.8.2 would be preferable.
> 
> I don't know if you can install 1.6.7 from 9.0 on 9.1.  My guess would
> be no, but that's strictly a guess.
> To try, find the 1.6.7 rpm on your Mandrake discs and try installing it as
> described above.
> 
> Any more questions about manually installing rpms might be answered by
> $man rpm or $man urpmi.  It's easy once you get the hang of it.
> 
> Just a hint:  When you install make /home a seperate partition.  Then
> when you
> reinstall, just don't reformat the /home partition and your personal
> settings
> and stuff are saved, and picked right up by the new install.
> 
> As for using the installer (actually DiskDrake) to resize and format part of
> your main NTFS drive to Linux...well, I haven't done it 'cause it doesn't
> apply to me, but I haven't heard of any problems, and I've never had any
> trouble on FAT32 disks.  Mandrake's the only distro that will do NTFS
> and it's
> a new feature in DisDrake so I don't really blame you for being a little
> scared to try it.  I'd do backups first...
> 
> Hope this helps...I know what it was like moving to Linux...but it's
> well worth it!
> 
> * Ray Salemink <raysalemink at hotmail.com> [2003-04-12 10:36]:
>  > I so appreciate the quick response you give. I will try to explain more
>  > fully.
>  >
>  > I had installed MDK 9.1, with the updated Mozilla, because the
> previous one
>  > in MDK9 had some problems with entering user names on some sites.I also
>  > liked the new support MDK 9.1 has for my video card, a GeForce MX420. But
>  > the problem with the QIFs import showed up with GnuCash 1.8.1. So I
>  > reinstalled MDK 9, with GnuCash 1.6.7, and QIF import was PERFECT!
> (this is
>  > how newbies do things, because we don't know a lot yet). I now have
> things
>  > just the way I want them in GnuCash with the accounts.
>  >
>  > I see that my file for the present Gnucash (1.6.7) is 1.5 MG, so it won't
>  > fit on the floppy.
>  >
>  > So, what I thought I could save the present file from 1.6.7 to floppy,
>  > reinstall MDK 9.1, and open that file in GnuCash 1.8.1. INstalling
> MDK 9.1
>  > means erasing my spare HD and starting all over, which is the one I am
>  > using to try out Linux. I am still somewhat "chicken" to use my main HD
>  > which has XP on it. Otherwise, I would install MDK 9.1 on it, and figure
>  > out how to access the 1.6.7 file on the other HD.
>  >
>  > I am still not very knowledeable with using Linux. Don't know if
> putting it
>  > on the main drive will screw up the MBR, or whatever else could happen.
>  > (Can you spell "yellow streak?"). I also thought about trying MDK 9.1's
>  > supposed ability to repartition XP's NTFS, but chicken again.
>  >
>  > So I thought I had two options.
>  > 1) Backup the file I now have in 1.6.7 in MDK 9 to floppy. Install
> MDK 9.1,
>  > and open the file saved on flopy in 1.8.1.
>  >
>  > OR 2)Install 1.6.7 from the MDK 9 CDs on MDK 9.1, open the file, save it,
>  > uninstall 1.6.7, and install 1.8.1 and open the file. But I don't
> know how
>  > to install a package from one version into another one.
>  >
>  > Sorry for the length, and I appreciate your patience.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU>
>  > To: "Ray Salemink" <raysalemink at hotmail.com>
>  > CC: gnucash-user at lsits.gnucash.org
>  > Subject: Re: saving to floppy
>  > Date: 12 Apr 2003 10:46:26 -0400
>  >
>  > "Ray Salemink" <raysalemink at hotmail.com> writes:
>  >
>  > > If the data file has the extension, .xac, then yes I did. And as far
>  > > as I know, it was not compressed, i'm not even sure how to do that. I
>  > > tried it two ways, by right clicking on the file in Konquerer and
>  > > moving the file to disc, and using a command line to "cp" the file to
>  > > floppy. Both times, the file was there on the floppy. This floppy was
>  > > formatted by Windows ME, by the way.
>  >
>  > How large is your data file?  Also note that floppies are notoriously
>  > buggy and bit-rotting.
>  >
>  > > I also tried clicking "File," then "Save as" and named it with my
>  > > initials. Then, I closed and reopened GnuCash, tried to open that
>  > > file, and it said it couldn't read it because it needed a newer
>  > > version of GnuCash.
>  >
>  > That's VERY strange, indeed.  You do File -> Save As, select some
>  > file, kill gnucash, restart gnucash, try to load the newly-saved
>  > file and it doesn't load it properly?!?!?  Is this in 1.6 or 1.8?
>  >
>  > > SEcond question: THere is a long list of files that are saved in the
>  > > home directory with .xac and .log as extensions. CAn i delete previous
>  > > ones? I see that in the code there is a date.
>  >
>  > Yep, you can delete any .log file and any backup .xac file.  Indeed,
>  > gnucash-1.8 will auto-delete the backup files after 30 days (you can
>  > set this to a shorter date if you wish).
>  >
>  > > What I was trying to do was install GnuCash 1.6.7, read the QIFs in,
>  > > save it to floppy, then remove 1.6.7, and install 1.8.1, and read the
>  > > saved data file.
>  >
>  > Sure, but why do you need to save to a floppy to do this?  Just
>  > replace gnucash and all will be happy.
>  >
>  > > Although, I really don't have a reason for doing this. I simply am
>  > > thrilled with 1.6.7, and really don't need the scheduler, because you
>  > > have done a wonderful job of making hte "duplicate" button work so
>  > > well. It' almost better than a scheduler.
>  >
>  > Gnucash 1.8 has a LOT of bugs fixed, and you wont get any support from
>  > the developers if you run into a problem on 1.6.  That alone should be
>  > a reason to upgrade.
>  >
>  > > THanks again for your help
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Ray Salemink
>  > > raysalemink at hotmail.com
>  >
>  > -derek
>  >
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