Gnome2 Port

[Ben Pracht]

At the risk of asking a dumb question, I'm running FC3 what version of 
Gnome I'm I running?  I'm not sure how I'd know.

Regards,
Ben


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>   1. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>      (ted creedon)
>   2. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>      (Josh Sled)
>   3. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>      (ted creedon)
>   4. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>      (Josh Sled)
>   5. RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>      (ted creedon)
>   6. year end, already ! (David J Patrick)
>   7. Re: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>      (Neil Williams)
>   8. Re: year end, already ! (Derek Atkins)
>   9. Re: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>      (Derek Atkins)
>  10. Re: year end, already ! (David J Patrick)
>  11. Re: year end, already ! (David J Patrick)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:59:02 -0800
>From: "ted creedon" <tcreedon at easystreet.com>
>Subject: RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>Cc: "'GnuCash'" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>Message-ID: <20050326195903.BA496B013 at smtpauth.easystreet.com>
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>1. What business functionality is not supported with postgresql?
>2. The "not under active development" comment seems to conflict with e-mails
>by others.
>3. I hope the relational database interface will not be intentionally
>disabled because:
>A. Using a relational database should force a decent object oriented data
>design upon the developers.
>B. Gnucash's flexibility would be severely compromised.
>
>4. I have a Microsoft's Visioin 2003 Enterprise ORM design package installed
>on one of my windows boxes and would be glad to hand enter or otherwise
>participate in an object oriented data design workshop. (I actually have the
>Visio reverese engineered gnucash/postgresql data design but haven't had
>time to study it).
>5. Suggest reading "Informational Modeling and Relational Databases",
>Halpin, isbn 1 55860 672 6.
>6. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/CH010266601033.aspx
>7. http://www.orm.net/halpin.html
>
>tedc
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gnucash-user-bounces at gnucash.org
>[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces at gnucash.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Ngundi
>Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:46 PM
>To: mevanecek at yahoo.com
>Cc: GnuCash
>Subject: Re: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>
>Thanks Matthew, I'll try that out...
>
>Vincent.
>
>
>On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 03:44, Matthew Vanecek wrote:
>  
>
>><quote who="Josh Sled">
>>    
>>
>>>On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:32, Vincent Ngundi wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Just wanted to ask, has anyone ever successfully used GnuCash with 
>>>>a PostgreSQL database in Linux(I'm using Redhat 9).
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I would venture to guess a very small number of people.
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I keep getting the following error when I try to save as either:
>>>>
>>>>postgres://localhost/template1?user="username"
>>>>postgres://localhost/template1"
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>That sounds like a funny name for a gnucash database...
>>>
>>>How did you create 'template1'?
>>>
>>>What is in the table 'gncVersion'?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Please help me out!
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>The postgres backend isn't really supported.  Specifically, none of 
>>>the active devs use it, it doesn't support all the features of 
>>>GnuCash [scheduled transactions and business objects especially], 
>>>and we intend to replace it.
>>>
>>>The best help you're going to get is from yourself and the sources.
>>>
>>>...jsled
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Don't use template1--that's the default database Postgresql creates.  
>>Use the name of a database that does not exist, and let Gnucash create 
>>the database internally.  Connecting to an existing empty database 
>>(i.e., a database that does not contain any Gnucash tables) is not 
>>supported and will generate that (somewhat deceptive) error.
>>
>>The Postgresql backend is not under active development.  E.g., it does 
>>not support scheduled transactions or any of the business functionality.
>>
>>ciao,
>>    
>>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:55:02 -0500
>From: Josh Sled <jsled at asynchronous.org>
>Subject: RE: Connecting to a postgresql Database on the Local machine
>To: ted creedon <tcreedon at easystreet.com>
>Cc: 'GnuCash' <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>Message-ID: <1111870502.13339.9.camel at phoenix>
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>On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 14:59, ted creedon wrote:
>
>  
>
>>1. What business functionality is not supported with postgresql?
>>    
>>
>
>All of it.
>
>  
>
>>2. The "not under active development" comment seems to conflict with e-mails
>>by others.
>>    
>>
>
>The interface you are attempting to use is not under active development.
>
>The desire and intent is to use another means (generically connecting
>QOF to a DB backend) to provide database support.
>
>This will require that scheduled transactions, at least but primarily,
>be "QOF"-ized; the business and other engine datatypes are already.
>
>  
>
>>3. I hope the relational database interface will not be intentionally
>>disabled because:
>>A. Using a relational database should force a decent object oriented data
>>design upon the developers.
>>    
>>
>
>I've seen horrendous data-models that are still relational, and
>appropriate object models that don't translate easily into relational.
>
>  
>
>>B. Gnucash's flexibility would be severely compromised.
>>    
>>
>
>What do you mean?
>
>  
>
>>4. I have a Microsoft's Visioin 2003 Enterprise ORM design package installed
>>on one of my windows boxes and would be glad to hand enter or otherwise
>>participate in an object oriented data design workshop. (I actually have the
>>Visio reverese engineered gnucash/postgresql data design but haven't had
>>time to study it).
>>    
>>
>
>What would this accomplish?
>
>  
>
>>5. Suggest reading "Informational Modeling and Relational Databases",
>>Halpin, isbn 1 55860 672 6.
>>    
>>
>
>The problem here isn't that the gnucash developers are stupid or
>ignorant about how to use a database; it's strictly a matter of
>development resources.  We don't need a picture of what the tables do or
>should look like; we need code to get it all working.  Moreover, we need
>the Gnome2 port finished first.
>
>...jsled
>
>  
>