Unable to use security editor to enlist new stocks for Dhaka Stock Exchange

Wed Feb 27 19:49:23 EST 2008

Derek--

My point is raising this was to see whether there was some way to improve the
user experience in this area. If there is not, so be it. I'll note that the
folks at Filemaker enable editable drop-down lists by adding an [Edit] option
at the end of the list, demonstrating a different approach to the situation.

David

P.S. - The page that mentions the editable nature of this list is section 7.7
in the help file, which is the chapter titled "Tools and Druids". It may not be
clear to a new user that this chapter is where one should look for information
about this. I was only able to locate it myself by googling the gnucash site.
The relevant section in the Concepts guide doesn't make this clear. 

--- Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU> wrote:

> "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > Having now seen this topic come up a few times since I began following
> these
> > lists, I think it is reasonable to raise the point that it appears that the
> > control in question behaves in contradiction to user expectations. It is
> > presented as a drop-down box, which in most environments implies a specific
> > (bounded) list of entries. 
> 
> There are PLENTY of interfaces that have a combination of drop-down
> box AND open-editing.  It's not a special widget; it's JUST a regular
> combo box which, funnily enough, has a flag that says whether or not
> to let the user input stuff into the interface.  So it's not like
> gnucash is doing anything wrong, or doing anything funky.  This is
> an inteface provided by Gtk!  Indeed, I would bet the HIG has something
> to say about it, too.
> 
> > Since this is actually a free-text field, I wonder a few things: 
> 
> It's not really a free-text field, per se.
> 
> > 1) How is the list used? I suspect that its primary use is to group stocks
> and
> > bonds together in various gnucash displays, but I wonder whether it has
> more
> > substantial uses (such as determining the lookup for online quotes). 
> 
> Yes, the primary use is to group stocks and bonds together.
> 
> > 2) What drawbacks would result if the control were changed to a textbox?
> > Obviously, term control could suffer, as users type in any sort of text. 
> 
> Control would definitely suffer.  Users would have to remember
> what they typed in before and wouldn't have any guidance as to
> what's in the list.
> 
> > If the list is only used for internal display purposes, then there is
> little
> > reason for the control to be a dropdown. If it is used for remote access as
> > well, then perhaps it would be advisable to limit the control a little more
> > strictly, and create an explicit interface (complete with error-checking,
> etc.)
> > to allow modifications to the list.
> 
> It's a dropdown to make it easy to choose.
> 
> > A different approach might be to use the same type-ahead behavior that is
> used
> > in the Description field of a register. That way, if a term has been used,
> > users can quickly select the correct term. [In acknowledgement of recent
> > threads, I note that typos can be propagated repeatedly in a type-ahead
> > situation]
> 
> Eep!  Well, then you can't see what else is in the list.  An editable
> combo box really is the right answer here.
> 
> It's not our fault people don't read the docs.  And changing the 
> interface from the correct one just because people can't read
> docs just does the interface a disservice.  I'm sure that for every
> one person that asks about this there are a hundred who just figure
> it out.  We should cater to the silent majority.
> 
> Just my $0.02.
> 
> > David
> 
> -derek
> 
> > --- Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> "Dr. Md. Aminul Islam Khan" <aikhan at bangla.net> writes:
> >> 
> >> > I am trying to enlist new stock in the New security dialogue, but I
> >> > do not find any DSE (Dhaka Stock Exchange of Bangladesh) in the Type
> >> > box (The box where I have to select the Stock exchange). There are
> >> > only AMEX, EUREX, FUND, NASDAQ and NYSE choices in Type box, and it
> >> > is not allowing me to add the DSE stock exchange. How do I add DSE
> >> > type in the Type box?
> >> 
> >> Just type it in.  It's a free-form text box and you can enter
> >> any text you want.  GnuCash has a default set to start you off,
> >> but you can add your own in the "New Commodity" dialog.
> >> 
> >> > Can any one help me? Thanking in anticipation.
> >> >
> >> > AI Khan
> >> 
> >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
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> >> 
> >> -derek
> >> 
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