Startup time

Michael Leone turgon at mike-leone.com
Thu Aug 20 14:37:33 EDT 2009


Pardon the top posting

Keeping the tabs open is not the #only# way. For example, I made
changes to the options of the Income and Expense Chart, and made sure
to rename the. report. Then, I clicked on "Add Report" - it was this
last step that saved my customization options, so I didn't need to
keep the tab open.


On 8/20/09, Christopher Scully <cjscullyca at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm still pretty new to GnuCash and this list so maybe I'm missing something
> that has been covered earlier on this subject.  It seems to be a pretty big
> usability flaw that the only way to retain any customizations a user makes
> to a report is to keep it open.  Such a thing takes the nominal (and quite
> acceptable in my book) start up time and potentially extends it to several
> minutes.  Users are faced with choosing between "unacceptable" and "even
> less acceptable" - long start up time or time wasted re-doing report
> customizations the next time they want to use that customized report.  Kinda
> like having to choose between being stabbed and being shot.  Is there a
> reason the reports system is set up this way?
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU>
> To: stepbystepfarm at mtdata.com
> Cc: "hasmeta at yahoo.com" <hasmeta at yahoo.com>; gnucash-user at gnucash.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:45:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Startup time
>
> Mike,
>
> Mike or Penny Novack <stepbystepfarm at mtdata.com> writes:
>
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, there are situations where the only way a user can
>>>retain a report is to leave it open from session to session. The last
>>>I heard, multicolumn reports fall into this category.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I'm not completely sure I understand that -- might well be an issue
>> about how reports are being USED. Could somebody who does this try to
>> explain how/why except during the fairly short time period (hopefully)
>> between the first trial run of a report and the final version you
>> would want a report to remain open? To me "open" means "could be
>> changed" and once the final version of a report exists it shouldn't be
>> changed -- just as the books should be considered "closed" for that
>> time period. Is this perhaps a difference between those of us who are
>> following standard accounting procedures like not making "corrections"
>> except by a later correction entry and those who because "well, just
>> personal books" follow more lax procedures?
>
> Your definition of "open" is wrong here.  In this case an "open report"
> means a report that you don't destroy.  I.e., when you run a report it
> opens a report window (tab).  If you do not close the tab when you
> exit gnucash, then when you restart gnucash it will re-run the same
> report with the same configuration.
>
> Sometimes setting up a report configuration can take a long time, so
> being able to retain those settings (report options) are a good thing.
>
>> In my case, once a report is "complete" I export it to a "reports"
>> directory. No need for it to exist any longer within GnuCash. If some
>> of you are using reports in a different manner please try to explain
>> how you are using them so we can give attention to the problem.
>
> I do it because there are some reports I want to see all the time.  For
> example, I keep open an Income Statement, Balance Sheet, because I'm
> always interested in how I'm doing.  They are always based on "Today" so
> I see how they are doing as of when GnuCash starts (or when I reload the
> report).  On my consulting company setup I also keep open a Fancy
> Invoice with the configuration I want.  This way I don't have to go
> reconfigure the standard template fancy invoice report every time I want
> to print an invoice.
>
>> Michael
>
> -derek
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