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Mon Sep 27 20:13:48 EDT 2010
re managing an ongoing activity in which you have to make distributions to =
recipients (beneficiaries) on a regular basis, because funds are owed them.=
You also mention an income/expense activity which suggests either a busin=
ess or a liquidation of assets of an estate.
What is unknown is the basis/reason dictating why you are distributing asse=
ts on a monthly basis. The reply to your question is an accounting one. B=
ut that accounting question activity is shaped by what dictates what you ar=
e doing. In my experience if it is an estate that is being disbursed, that=
usually is not done until all liabilities to non-beneficiaries have been d=
etermined in amount and paid to those claimants. What is left after paying=
creditors are net assets, of which the beneficiaries are the owners. In t=
hat arrangement, your notion of debiting equity and crediting cash works. =
What is unknown to this list (and therefore suggests a note of risk) is wh=
y you distribute before the funds are on hand (you say they are dependent u=
pon income, which always is problematical in advance of receipt).
If you are administering a trust, then the terms of the trust must be speci=
fied in order to know what you are supposed to do when. If income is comin=
g in from the trust's activities, then it suggests that in the short run th=
e trust is an ongoing activity and the amounts owed beneficiaries are real=
ly liabilities of the trust. If that is the reality, then you would have l=
iabilities offsetting trust assets.
If you supply a clear statement of your situation, it will be easier to det=
ermine the proper way to record the transactions you describe.
HTH,
Tom Bullock
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:53:13 +0800
From: "Alex Hill" <alex_hill at arach.net.au<mailto:alex_hill at arach.net.au>>
Subject: Trust Distributions
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I sent this last night but I didnt see it come through the mailing list, so=
my apologies is people receive it a second time.
This is more of an accounting Question then a specific GnuCash question, bu=
t could do with some info on how to structure it in GnuCash anyway.
I have a trust and am making monthly distributions to beneficiaries. Would =
I be right in doing the following:
Equity (Beneficiary 1) Dr x
Equity (Beneficiary 2) Dr y
Cash Cr x+y
(or seperate transactions for each distribution).
So in this this situation the equity accounts with have a Dr balance (shown=
as a negative in gnucash) during the year. Then at the end of the year I w=
ould offset these accounts against the P&L Summary when closing the books l=
ike so:
P&L Summary (temporary account used in closure) Dr x + y
Equity (Beneficiary 1) Cr =
x
Equity (Beneficiary 2) Cr =
y
Then any residual in the P&L summary account would be distributed in a simi=
lar fashion?
I think this is right, but am not quite sure.
Thanks,
Alex
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