Transaction register question

Sat Aug 17 13:09:38 EDT 2013

Hi Jack,

You are right that discussions on a beta version of GnuCash should not 
be held on the gnucash-user list. I'm in the process of moving it to 
gnucash-devel.

Geert

On 17-08-13 18:42, Jack Halem wrote:
>
> I have a few things to add.
> I may have to leave the user list because you guys are flooding my 
> "private" mail box with useless email.
> You Windows and Mac guys have Quickbooks
> Us Linux users don't have that option.
> Linux is free and you "should" be using GNU Cash on Linux.
> FYI - Google uses Linux and does not allow their direct employees to 
> use Windows computers.
> I feel if it is good enough for Google, if is good enough for all of us.
>
> GNU Cash and the Linux Operating System installs on Ubuntu and Linux 
> Mint Distributions as if it was installed at the factory when the 
> computer was built. Honestly trying to use any other operating system 
> seems completely pointless - especially knowing that Linux is more 
> stable. Referring to the Linux Distributions I have mentioned, you can 
> easily install Drop Box for free and have your GNU Cash data backed up 
> on the Internet - for free. I feel that trying to use anything other 
> than Linux for using the free program GNU Cash is like trying to 
> reinvent the wheel. Governments all over the world have already 
> converted their usage to Linux, and the list keeps growing.
> Last Month, The Space Station, converted their Windows laptop to 
> Linux. Both Ubuntu and Linux Mint have free live help available using 
> Xchat which is also preinstalled
>
> I have been attempting to use GNU Cash for over years and failed 
> miserably. I purchased the book available over a year ago, and still 
> failed.  However the third time was a charm. The book instructs you to 
> remove the automatic save feature.
> I also discovered that having a "working" file for GNU Cash saved me 
> from the pain of reinstalling GNU Cash and entering all my data all 
> over again.
> I use my "work" or what some call "WIP (Work In Progress) GNU Cash 
> file to learn and train myself, and enter all new data. This has 
> eliminated my need to make new user questions. Once I am "completely 
> satisfied" with my "working" file for GNU Cash, I replace my legacy 
> (backed up) file of GNU Cash.
>
> I found that every question  was found in either in the GNU Cash help 
> sections, GNU Cash manual, or in the book I purchased. I purchased 
> "Gnucash 2.4 Small Business Accounting". This books also covers other 
> areas of usage of GNU Cash.
> Since GNU Cash utilized basic accounting practices, becoming 
> accustomed using GNU cash is easily handled "if" the user is willing 
> to do his or her part in learning accounting principles.
>
> I feel it is selfish if users want everyone else to do their homework. 
> I also discovered that finding the answers I needed by myself was 
> extremely useful in my ongoing usage and progress with GNU Cash. This 
> has also resulted in my making my accounting efforts simpler and more 
> efficient.
>
> I can't emphasize enough that doing my part has been one of the best 
> assets in becoming proficient with GNU Cash.
> Once I accepted that responsibility, and became a patient user of GNU 
> Cash, everything else seemed to fall into place.
>
> Jack
>
> On 08/17/2013 07:36 AM, John Ralls wrote:
>> On Aug 17, 2013, at 5:29 AM, Robert Kesterson <robertk at robertk.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Geert Janssens wrote:
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>
>>>>  From your message I couldn't derive your motivation for 
>>>> downloading and installing the beta version of GnuCash. If you 
>>>> didn't download it to *experiment* with the new features or to do 
>>>> some beta testing, you are probably better of reverting to the 
>>>> latest stable version, which currently is 2.4.13.
>>> Hi, Geert and thanks for the info.  I was able to find the menu 
>>> option open the accounts in the old register format.  I wish it 
>>> would "stick" so I didn't have to do that every time I want to open 
>>> it (though I did discover by that jumping to a transaction in a 
>>> register opens it in the same style interface as the account you 
>>> currently have open, or at least it seems to, so that's good).
>>>
>>> To answer your unstated question, the reason I run the beta version 
>>> is twofold.  Number one, it is updated far more often than the 
>>> stable version (yes, I know that's why they call it "stable").  And 
>>> number two, I actually *am* looking for improvements in the user 
>>> interface, among others.   As I mentioned, I run Gnucash on a Mac.  
>>> It doesn't really look right on a Mac.  For that matter, it doesn't 
>>> really look right on Windows either.  The GUI looks OK on Linux 
>>> because it matches the look and feel of other applications.  On 
>>> Windows and Mac, it doesn't fit in with the rest of the platform. 
>>> (Bear in mind, I've used GnuCash for *years*, including at least a 
>>> year on each of the three platforms I mention, so my opinion is not 
>>> based on a cursory observation.  I don't use all the business or 
>>> online features that are available, but I do use the general 
>>> recording and reporting functions quite a lot.)
>> First off, it's called "unstable" because there are a bunch of 
>> changes in it that are still "works in progress", not because it's 
>> updated more frequently.  It's not ready for use with production 
>> data. Bear in mind that it's our intent to remove the old register 
>> code entirely by the time we release 2.6; on the other hand, I don't 
>> think that anyone likes the double scrollbar (if someone does, s/he 
>> hasn't told us) and I don't think that's going to be around much longer.
>>
>> GnuCash is unlikely ever to have a native look-and-feel on Windows or 
>> Mac. At some point in the very distant future it might have a less 
>> alien look if we change UI frameworks, but it's unlikely that it will 
>> ever be anything but a Linux program that happens to also run on 
>> Windows and Macs. For the near future, it's based on Gtk, and an 
>> obsolete version of it at that.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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