accounting for managed investment accounts
gnucash.133518b at telus.net
gnucash.133518b at telus.net
Mon Apr 28 03:33:26 EDT 2014
Imagine I have a real-world personalized professionally-managed
investment account of the sort often referred to in Canada as a "managed
account" or "discretionary account". I am not consulted on the buying
and selling of the assets and cash within the account. As this is not a
mutual fund, my external transactions with this account are in dollars,
not shares. Similarly, my tax consequences relate to external
transactions with this account, not transactions that are internal to
the account.
I want to add a corresponding investment account created in my GnuCash
book, but how do I do this? I don't think I can use either of the
"stock" or "mutual fund" account types because those appear to be
strictly denominated in share units. The number of different assets in
the managed account are too many and too often changing for me to want
to try tracking them individually in GnuCash and the whole point of such
an account is to manage it as a (more or less) black box.
After reading Peter Selinger's well-known "Tutorial on multiple currency
accounting" as well as "8.7 Selling Shares" in the GnuCash Tutorial and
Concepts Guide I have a very tenuous understanding that realized
gains/losses need to be accounted for with investment accounts. It is
not clear to me from my reading why it is that when tracking individual
stocks that one must always manually calculate and enter profits for
individual stock sale transactions such that they are sourced by an
Income:Capital Gains account but that this does not also apply to
currency exchange transactions. Assuming someone can tell me how I can
even implement my managed account in GnuCash, how do I account for its
realized gains?
For unrelated reasons I will have trading accounts enabled. How does
this changes things, if at all?
I also have a variety of loose investment assets within a real-world
portfolio account I manage on my own. I am not yet sure that I want to
track those individually as stocks in GnuCash either, but I at least
need to account for them as a group, so I think this would be pretty
much the same thing as the managed account. It seems to me this would be
an approach that a lot of people would go for if someone could give us
an easy-to-understand description of how to accomplish this sort of
thing correctly.
In case it wasn't already painfully obvious, keep in mind that I am
totally new to GnuCash and accounting concepts in general.
Carl
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