Budget Expense Issue
Matt Graham
matt_graham2001 at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 30 18:53:06 EDT 2015
G'day,
The budget expense issue sounds like bug 742352,
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742352
As I state in there, make sure you only have ONE root expense account.
Gnucash will not work properly in calculating the totals for the budgets if
you have more than one root expense, income, asset or liability account.
During imports, or if you don't balance your transactions the program often
creates expense accounts called "Unspecified" that are not within the main
"Expenses" tree. As a result this bug can randomly appear after you do an
import or split transaction. Not a big deal - just delete the offending
account, change its type to "Bank" or something like that, or move it to
have the main "Expenses" account as its parent. Easy work around!
I am still working on improving the code so that we can get rid of this
issue. Since I haven't programmed using the gtk much, it is slow going!
Hope this helps,
Matt
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1. Re: Guile API (John Ralls)
2. Re: Basic information screen (Curlyfoo)
3. Budget, expense issue (Schuyler Kelley)
4. Check Register (James Fuller)
5. Re: Budget, expense issue (David T.)
6. Re: Budget, expense issue (Schuyler Kelley)
7. Re: Check Register (nvsoar)
8. RE: Check Register (david.carlson.417)
9. Re: Budget, expense issue (David T.)
10. Re: Budget, expense issue (Schuyler Kelley)
11. Re: Budget, expense issue (Colin Law)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:14:53 -0700
From: John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
To: Alex Weiss <alexweiss at theplate.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Guile API
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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Alex Weiss <alexweiss at theplate.com> wrote:
>
> I was considering scripting GnuCash using its Guile API rather that it's
> Python API? Am I crazy to assume that the Guile API is as rich an the
> Python API?
>
> The first stumbling block I have noticed is simply creating what the
> Python API calls a "session" - a connection to gnucash will allows for the
> input and retrieval of GnuCash data. The Python API Session object seems
> to wraps the c functions: qof_session_new, qof_session_begin, and
> qof_session_load. The swig interface I found does not seem to export these
> out as Guile procedures.
>
> Any advice on using the Guile API in general or how to create a session
> using Guile in particular?
Alex,
Actually, more of GnuCash is exposed to Guile than to Python because Python
can?t see the parts of GnuCash that are written in Scheme. Everything in the
C API that?s exposed to one is exposed to the other; the differences in the
SWIG interface files are just customizations needed to make a function work
in the language in question. If there?s no customization it means that SWIG
can figure out the right thing to do from the C header, and unless a
function whose header is included in a SWIG file is specifically %excluded
in the SWIG file it?s exported.
What?s more, GnuCash links libguile and starts the Scheme interpreter very
early, so you can actually customize the application with Scheme. This is
how one adds custom reports.
That aside, qof_session_new *is* mentioned explicitly in engine.i outside of
the language-specific sections, at line 163. You can see it in action in
src/engine/test/test-create-account.scm and test-dcm-query-import.scm
Regards,
John Ralls
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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:48:53 +0000
From: Curlyfoo <curlyfoo at gmail.com>
To: Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com>
Cc: "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Basic information screen
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All sorted. Unsubscribed. Thanks to all for help
> On 29/10/2015, at 10:31 AM, Curlyfoo <curlyfoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Colin. I'm travelling & have very limited access to data. When I get
> home I'll think about it but in the meantime I wish to unsubscribe.
> Problem is I'm getting a response saying my email address is illegal
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>
>
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>>> On 29/10/2015, at 9:55 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 29 October 2015 at 09:27, Curlyfoo <curlyfoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> How do I unsubscribe as log in screen doesn't recognise my user name? I
>>> need to stop getting all the emails answering other user's queries.
>>> Happy to stay in forum if these mails can be stopped.
>>
>> If you are staying here you should watch all the questions and
>> replies, you will learn a tremendous amount and in no time be able to
>> repay some of the help others have provided you, by helping others.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:10:44 -0400
From: Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Budget, expense issue
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Hello!
I've started using gnucash over the last week and a half for my personal
finances.
I have a problem: for each file I create, the budgets stop totaling
correctly after a while.
At the bottom, the Expenses are not totaled at all! Everything else works
fine, expenses don't even show up.
The only solution has been to create a new file entirely, which is
obviously frustrating and useless...
Has anyone else encountered this issue, and discovered a solution? I can't
find a bug report in bugzilla, and I haven't found any similar experiences
in the mailing list archives either.
Thanks in advance!
Schuyler
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:31:50 -0600
From: James Fuller <James at plateautel.net>
To: gnucash <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Check Register
Message-ID: <5632D696.1020506 at plateautel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Hi,
If I open my Bank Checking Account I get what amounts to a checkbook
register. I would like to print the register as it shows up on my screen.
Is that possible?
Thanks,
James Fuller
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:34:14 -0400
From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
To: Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Budget, expense issue
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Schuyler,
Welcome aboard.
I am afraid I don?t quite understand what you mean by your ?budgets stop
totalling after a while.? Are you in fact referring to the GnuCash budgets
features, or perhaps you are using that term to mean some other aspect of
the program?
If it is in fact an issue with budgets, I will probably not be able to help
you out (since I am woefully inept with GnuCash?s budgeting features). I do
believe that a given budget uses established amounts that you must
explicitly change, which makes sense, since they are meant to reflect your
goals in particular areas. I am not sure which totals you?d refer to in that
area, though, so perhaps you see something I do not.
However, perhaps you are referring to something else in the program, and I
might be able to explain things better then. Where exactly are you seeing
these totals? What is this window named? How are you calling these totals
up? How are they not totaling? What numbers are you expecting to see?
And finally, which version of GnuCash are you using, and what operating
system are you on?
Cheers,
David
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I've started using gnucash over the last week and a half for my personal
> finances.
>
> I have a problem: for each file I create, the budgets stop totaling
> correctly after a while.
> At the bottom, the Expenses are not totaled at all! Everything else works
> fine, expenses don't even show up.
> The only solution has been to create a new file entirely, which is
> obviously frustrating and useless...
>
> Has anyone else encountered this issue, and discovered a solution? I can't
> find a bug report in bugzilla, and I haven't found any similar experiences
> in the mailing list archives either.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Schuyler
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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:58:41 -0400
From: Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com>
To: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Budget, expense issue
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I am using version Bodhi linux -- an Ubuntu-based OS -- and version 2.6.4
of gnucash, the latest version in Ubuntu's repositories. (14.04 Trusty,
apparently)
I am referring to the budgeting feature. When you open a budget, and enter
figures for various accounts, there's a running total along the bottom of
the window.
If it's permitted to send an image to the mailing list, I'll send a
screenshot along? I can more easily show you what I see than tell you.
After 'a while,' figures I enter for an expense account are no longer
included in any meaningful way in those totals. I can't figure out how to
reproduce the problem consistently, unfortunately, so 'a while' is about as
specific as it gets...
Schuyler
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:34 PM, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Schuyler,
>
> Welcome aboard.
>
> I am afraid I don?t quite understand what you mean by your ?budgets stop
> totalling after a while.? Are you in fact referring to the GnuCash
> budgets
> features, or perhaps you are using that term to mean some other aspect of
> the program?
>
> If it is in fact an issue with budgets, I will probably not be able to
> help you out (since I am woefully inept with GnuCash?s budgeting
> features).
> I do believe that a given budget uses established amounts that you must
> explicitly change, which makes sense, since they are meant to reflect your
> goals in particular areas. I am not sure which totals you?d refer to in
> that area, though, so perhaps you see something I do not.
>
> However, perhaps you are referring to something else in the program, and I
> might be able to explain things better then. Where exactly are you seeing
> these totals? What is this window named? How are you calling these totals
> up? How are they not totaling? What numbers are you expecting to see?
>
> And finally, which version of GnuCash are you using, and what operating
> system are you on?
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> > On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > I've started using gnucash over the last week and a half for my personal
> > finances.
> >
> > I have a problem: for each file I create, the budgets stop totaling
> > correctly after a while.
> > At the bottom, the Expenses are not totaled at all! Everything else
> > works
> > fine, expenses don't even show up.
> > The only solution has been to create a new file entirely, which is
> > obviously frustrating and useless...
> >
> > Has anyone else encountered this issue, and discovered a solution? I
> can't
> > find a bug report in bugzilla, and I haven't found any similar
> experiences
> > in the mailing list archives either.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Schuyler
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:27:10 -0700
From: nvsoar <nvsoar at charter.net>
To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Check Register
Message-ID: <5632E38E.5050100 at charter.net>
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On 10/29/2015 1931, James Fuller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I open my Bank Checking Account I get what amounts to a checkbook
> register. I would like to print the register as it shows up on my
> screen.
> Is that possible?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James Fuller
FWIW - Sure - Use a screen capture tool.
In windows there is snipping tool, a similar tool in linux systems, and
a PrtScn key on your keyboard (shift+PrtScn).
All of these produce an image of your screen or a portion of your screen
depending on the tool chosen. The image using the PrtScn tool goes to
the clipboard awaiting a paste from there. The other tools provide a
save to option. Then image can be opened and hard copy printed from an
image handling program.
Depending what needs to be accomplished, it may be a better option to
look at the reports in gnucash, which I understand can be manipulated in
an office program.
nvsoar
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:44:07 -0700
From: "david.carlson.417" <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
To: James Fuller <James at plateautel.net>, gnucash
<gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: RE: Check Register
Message-ID: <027xjmixjpd8fldjh5ohg57o.1446176646566 at email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
James.
To get a printout of a portion of the register, first filter the view of the
register to the date range of interest, then select Report > Transaction.
?Then print that report. ?This works pretty well for me.
David C
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From: James Fuller <James at plateautel.net>
Date: 10/29/2015 7:31 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: gnucash <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Check Register
Hi,
If I open my Bank Checking Account I get what amounts to a checkbook
register.? I would like to print the register as it shows up on my screen.
Is that possible?
Thanks,
James Fuller
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 06:36:09 -0400
From: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
To: Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Budget, expense issue
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OK, so now it?s clear you?re using the budget features, so I will repeat my
admission of incomplete knowledge of the budget features. I will ask one
more question, and then hope that someone with better budgeting experience
can help out further.
You say ?figures you enter for an expense account.? Do you mean that you are
changing figures in the budget itself, or that you are entering transactions
into your accounts? If you are referring to the former, my experience
doesn?t match yours. That is, when I go in to my budget and change a budget
value for an expense account, the totals change. If you are referring to the
latter, then I will repeat that the budget isn?t intended to change when you
enter actual transactions into GnuCash. There are reports that you can run
that will show you both your budgeted amount and the actual transactional
totals side by side.
David
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am using version Bodhi linux -- an Ubuntu-based OS -- and version 2.6.4
> of gnucash, the latest version in Ubuntu's repositories. (14.04 Trusty,
> apparently)
>
> I am referring to the budgeting feature. When you open a budget, and enter
> figures for various accounts, there's a running total along the bottom of
> the window.
>
> If it's permitted to send an image to the mailing list, I'll send a
> screenshot along? I can more easily show you what I see than tell you.
>
> After 'a while,' figures I enter for an expense account are no longer
> included in any meaningful way in those totals. I can't figure out how to
> reproduce the problem consistently, unfortunately, so 'a while' is about
> as specific as it gets...
>
> Schuyler
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:34 PM, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com
> <mailto:sunfish62 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> Schuyler,
>
> Welcome aboard.
>
> I am afraid I don?t quite understand what you mean by your ?budgets stop
> totalling after a while.? Are you in fact referring to the GnuCash
> budgets features, or perhaps you are using that term to mean some other
> aspect of the program?
>
> If it is in fact an issue with budgets, I will probably not be able to
> help you out (since I am woefully inept with GnuCash?s budgeting
> features). I do believe that a given budget uses established amounts that
> you must explicitly change, which makes sense, since they are meant to
> reflect your goals in particular areas. I am not sure which totals you?d
> refer to in that area, though, so perhaps you see something I do not.
>
> However, perhaps you are referring to something else in the program, and I
> might be able to explain things better then. Where exactly are you seeing
> these totals? What is this window named? How are you calling these totals
> up? How are they not totaling? What numbers are you expecting to see?
>
> And finally, which version of GnuCash are you using, and what operating
> system are you on?
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> > On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com
> > <mailto:zalethon at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > I've started using gnucash over the last week and a half for my personal
> > finances.
> >
> > I have a problem: for each file I create, the budgets stop totaling
> > correctly after a while.
> > At the bottom, the Expenses are not totaled at all! Everything else
> > works
> > fine, expenses don't even show up.
> > The only solution has been to create a new file entirely, which is
> > obviously frustrating and useless...
> >
> > Has anyone else encountered this issue, and discovered a solution? I
> > can't
> > find a bug report in bugzilla, and I haven't found any similar
> > experiences
> > in the mailing list archives either.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Schuyler
> > _______________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 06:53:11 -0400
From: Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com>
To: "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com>
Cc: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Budget, expense issue
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I am entering figures in the budget itself.
I'll share the screenshot when I'm home from work. Even if you can't solve
the issue, thanks for the effort!
Schuyler
On Oct 30, 2015 06:36, "David T." <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, so now it?s clear you?re using the budget features, so I will repeat
> my admission of incomplete knowledge of the budget features. I will ask
> one
> more question, and then hope that someone with better budgeting experience
> can help out further.
>
> You say ?figures you enter for an expense account.? Do you mean that you
> are changing figures in the budget itself, or that you are entering
> transactions into your accounts? If you are referring to the former, my
> experience doesn?t match yours. That is, when I go in to my budget and
> change a budget value for an expense account, the totals change. If you
> are
> referring to the latter, then I will repeat that the budget isn?t intended
> to change when you enter actual transactions into GnuCash. There are
> reports that you can run that will show you both your budgeted amount and
> the actual transactional totals side by side.
>
> David
>
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am using version Bodhi linux -- an Ubuntu-based OS -- and version 2.6.4
> of gnucash, the latest version in Ubuntu's repositories. (14.04 Trusty,
> apparently)
>
> I am referring to the budgeting feature. When you open a budget, and enter
> figures for various accounts, there's a running total along the bottom of
> the window.
>
> If it's permitted to send an image to the mailing list, I'll send a
> screenshot along? I can more easily show you what I see than tell you.
>
> After 'a while,' figures I enter for an expense account are no longer
> included in any meaningful way in those totals. I can't figure out how to
> reproduce the problem consistently, unfortunately, so 'a while' is about
> as
> specific as it gets...
>
> Schuyler
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:34 PM, David T. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Schuyler,
>>
>> Welcome aboard.
>>
>> I am afraid I don?t quite understand what you mean by your ?budgets stop
>> totalling after a while.? Are you in fact referring to the GnuCash
>> budgets
>> features, or perhaps you are using that term to mean some other aspect of
>> the program?
>>
>> If it is in fact an issue with budgets, I will probably not be able to
>> help you out (since I am woefully inept with GnuCash?s budgeting
>> features).
>> I do believe that a given budget uses established amounts that you must
>> explicitly change, which makes sense, since they are meant to reflect
>> your
>> goals in particular areas. I am not sure which totals you?d refer to in
>> that area, though, so perhaps you see something I do not.
>>
>> However, perhaps you are referring to something else in the program, and
>> I might be able to explain things better then. Where exactly are you
>> seeing
>> these totals? What is this window named? How are you calling these totals
>> up? How are they not totaling? What numbers are you expecting to see?
>>
>> And finally, which version of GnuCash are you using, and what operating
>> system are you on?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>> > On Oct 29, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > I've started using gnucash over the last week and a half for my
>> > personal
>> > finances.
>> >
>> > I have a problem: for each file I create, the budgets stop totaling
>> > correctly after a while.
>> > At the bottom, the Expenses are not totaled at all! Everything else
>> works
>> > fine, expenses don't even show up.
>> > The only solution has been to create a new file entirely, which is
>> > obviously frustrating and useless...
>> >
>> > Has anyone else encountered this issue, and discovered a solution? I
>> can't
>> > find a bug report in bugzilla, and I haven't found any similar
>> experiences
>> > in the mailing list archives either.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> > Schuyler
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > gnucash-user mailing list
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:00:26 +0000
From: Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com>
To: Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com>
Cc: "gnucash-user at gnucash.org" <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Budget, expense issue
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On 30 October 2015 at 10:53, Schuyler Kelley <zalethon at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am entering figures in the budget itself.
>
> I'll share the screenshot when I'm home from work. Even if you can't solve
> the issue, thanks for the effort!
A screenshot would be very useful I am sure. If possible put it on an
image sharing site please.
Colin
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