Fwd: New transaction report - consolidates / creates composite if same description, has find capability and can convert annual data to daily amounts

Cindy Doughty dbdoughty at gmail.com
Tue Mar 21 10:31:18 EDT 2017


Dear Gnucash-Users

It brings me great pleasure to present an updated and beefed up
transaction.scm

In addition to advanced date, transaction and account filtering
capabilities, and the scaling multiplier features already presented, it now
has a novel multi-column view to separate transactions into splits as a
multicolumn view.

This will be useful in multiple ways. For example
1) report your bank account, and filter by expenses, visualise the monies
leaving your bank into various accounts
2) report from your GST/VAT accounts, and visualise the various incomes and
expenses, with quarterly totals. Use figures to determine your GST/VAT
obligations.
3) cut from multicolumn, and paste into spreadsheet for more advanced data
analytics

See attached sample reports for illustration.I will be happy for this
report to be submitted to the standard reports.
Thanks to help from Chris Lam, this report is nearly mature - just needs
some adjustments to UI and settings.

Doug Doughty
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On 21 March 2017 at 11:33, Cindy Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, it would be good if you can help with the announcement.  I've attached
> one finalversion - added to the find command so you can search for text in
> the date, reconciled date, and check number fields.  And changed so we can
> replace the current transaction.scm with it. (can't do it yet since this
> version uses the extra file gnctimeperiods-utilities.)  I agree about
> removing old running balance but was worried my version may not work under
> all conditions.  We could change the default to not use the old version.
> Could also change the sign conversion default to none ( just a question of
> changing from true #f to #f on running balance menu item  and changing the
> entry to 'none on the style menu option.  If you look in the code you'll
> see where I added some code to turn off the menu choice for running balance
> and amount when optname-account-as-cols? is true.  Could do this for the
> other menu items I listed in the e-mail settings but not sure if I should.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Christopher Lam <
> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think it is ready for general release & feedback on UI :)
>> My vote: Remove sign reversal, Remove old running balance
>> If you wish I can help with announcement and illus on new functionality
>> especially for quarterly tax obligations
>> And incorporate Multicolumn option as the 4th option for 'Amount' display.
>>
>> \o/ We are not worthy \o/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 March 2017 at 01:37, Cindy Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> try settings:
>>> display tab   - check multi-column  and   only show transaction once
>>> sign reverses - none
>>>                       uncheck  totals  uncheck consolidate transactions
>>> general  -   style single
>>> sorting      -    primary key   date     primary subtotal - none
>>>                     secondary key none
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Cindy Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I figured out how to easily only have a transaction entered once  -
>>>> should I,  should it be a menu choice, and if it is a menu choice, where
>>>> and how should it be worded.   Also, is there a better menu choice/
>>>> description  than account names as columns.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I watched four or five you tube tutorials on scheme, then googled guile
>>>> scheme.  Looked at http://web-artanis.com/scheme.html, looked at
>>>> https://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/tmp/guile-1.6.0/guile-tut_3.html  and
>>>> have been using the guile manual  https://www.gnu.org/software/g
>>>> uile/manual/html_node/index.html#SEC_Contents.  I make a backup copy
>>>> of the file write only 1or two lines of code and then run it.  If it
>>>> doesn't work I use a diff program to compare the backup and the current
>>>> version.  If it works I make another backup and continue.  The back ups
>>>> have the current day and time in the name so I have multiple versions.  I
>>>> look at the existing programs when I am ready to add a new feature and try
>>>> to copy over the existing code as a starting point for what I am trying to
>>>> write.  The biggest problem I found is the parenthesis , getting the right
>>>> number and right location for them.  The editor I am using highlights where
>>>> the opening or closing paren is when you click on the opposite one.  The
>>>> word let needs  to be entere as (let ( and then the variables such as (let
>>>> (  (var1 "testt")   (var2 "test2")  ) <--- note the closing paren   then
>>>> the code where you do other things besides creating a temporary variable
>>>> and then another closing paren ")"  to end the entire let.    If you are
>>>> using the variable as part of te definition of another variable the let
>>>> needs an asterisk  (let*  (        code needs to be grouped   so after
>>>> (define (name_of_sub_routine  input_variable1  input_variable2) (    you
>>>> can only have one set of code.  If you are going to have multipe statements
>>>> they need to be inside a (let (      or    (begin (     the other problem I
>>>> have at times is it appears you can only put (define  in certain locations
>>>> (I am not sure about this)  so sometimes it works if I just move the code
>>>> to a new location.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Christopher Lam <
>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You've fixed (2) and (3) currency! :)
>>>>> (5) is already fixed.
>>>>> I must ask you which resources are useful to learn scheme this way?
>>>>> I've been trying to fix the commodities table.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 March 2017 at 23:59, Cindy Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> try this version with your list of items to check.  For item 1 I could
>>>>>> look at transaction guid and filter so I only have 1 copy of each
>>>>>> transaction but if you print sorted by expense account name, only one of
>>>>>> the expense categories would have a listing such as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> groceries                                 checking
>>>>>> groceries      pet supplies        cd's/dvd's
>>>>>> A&P                                          -100
>>>>>> 85                 5                         10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pet supplies
>>>>>> (no entries)
>>>>>> cd's/dvds
>>>>>> (no entries)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Addendum
>>>>>>> I think item (1) is currently unsolvable. If there are multiple
>>>>>>> splits to same account, they *have* to be duplicated unless major
>>>>>>> structural changes made to main loop.
>>>>>>> Otherwise the other items are mostly cosmetic. I tried hacking
>>>>>>> scheme from your changes to fix the currency/commodity and still failed.
>>>>>>> Very grateful for work!
>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19 March 2017 at 12:06, Cindy Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> item 2 - currency
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > The original transaction program doesn't have a menu choice for
>>>>>>>>> turning on or off the amount column, should it automatically be hidden or
>>>>>>>>> should it  be a menu choice?
>>>>>>>>> I'd think if we choose 'accounts-as-columns' it should omit
>>>>>>>>> printing the original Amount column. I figure it should also disable
>>>>>>>>> 'Running Total'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > I can easily sum up the column but I haven't figured out how to
>>>>>>>>> handle multiple currencies in the same account.
>>>>>>>>> You mean multiple currencies in same split. I guess we'd add each
>>>>>>>>> 'account-as-column' currency amount.
>>>>>>>>> Alternatively we could 'overload' the original 'Amount' display to
>>>>>>>>> show each amount-as-column, and inherit its ability to display currencies,
>>>>>>>>> running totals, subtotals... but I guess this cause major breakage...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 19 March 2017 at 11:21, Cindy Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, check what setting you have for options display sign reversal
>>>>>>>>>> - should be none,  I may need to change the default to none.  Also, I am
>>>>>>>>>> summing up all of the entries to the same account  for a split so I thought
>>>>>>>>>> I had item 1 taken care of.  Good catch on your part, I'll have to look at
>>>>>>>>>> it.  Adding the currency sign should be easy.  I haven't figured out how to
>>>>>>>>>> print a total.  I can easily sum up the column but I haven't figured out
>>>>>>>>>> how to handle multiple currencies in the same account.  The original
>>>>>>>>>> transaction program doesn't have a menu choice for turning on or off the
>>>>>>>>>> amount column, should it automatically be hidden or should it  be a menu
>>>>>>>>>> choice?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This.is.beautiful... I respectfully deny your claim to be a
>>>>>>>>>>> scheme beginner. I feel guilty about using your skills. Herewith my
>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts. The report is nearly mature.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) With this new development there'll be a snag: If the same
>>>>>>>>>>> transaction contains multiple splits to the same account, there will be
>>>>>>>>>>> duplication of data. Illustration:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   01/01/2017 "Deposit Cheques into bank"
>>>>>>>>>>>      Income:Sales $-500 Cheque 1 - for work done in November
>>>>>>>>>>>      Income:Sales $-800 Cheque 2 - for work done in December
>>>>>>>>>>>      Assets:Bank  $1300 Deposits into Bank
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   If I now select "Income:Sales" as report account, it will show
>>>>>>>>>>>     Date            Desc
>>>>>>>>>>> Acct              Amount  Bank   Income
>>>>>>>>>>>     01/01/17 "Deposit cheques into Bank"
>>>>>>>>>>> Split-transaction    $800      1,300    1,300
>>>>>>>>>>>     01/01/17 "Deposit cheques into Bank"     Split-transaction
>>>>>>>>>>> $1,300      1,300    1,300
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   I dealt with this in my .py report in the main loop by looping
>>>>>>>>>>> through transactions rather than splits.
>>>>>>>>>>>   I'm not sure how easy it will be to modify scm.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) For some reason the accounts-in-columns are printed as
>>>>>>>>>>> numbers without currencies?
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Ideally if accounts-as-columns is selected, we will omit
>>>>>>>>>>> printing the split amount ($800 and $1300) as above because it's now
>>>>>>>>>>> redundant?
>>>>>>>>>>> 4) How difficult to add totals for each amounts-as-columns?
>>>>>>>>>>> 5) The amounts-as-columns don't seem to have consistent
>>>>>>>>>>> negativity rules. If, for example, they used the raw gnucash amount they
>>>>>>>>>>> will always be consistent (+ve amounts usually in assets/expenses, -ve in
>>>>>>>>>>> income/liability/equity) so that each row, when summed, will equal zero.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I admit my .py didn't handle currencies at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 March 2017 at 10:08, Cindy Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> try this one
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok, I found a split transaction- it doesn't print as any type
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of account, I'll need to try and figure out what variable has the account
>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try the transactionpayee.scm version I sent, think it does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this but it prints on multiple lines (the first of the two files send today)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, thank you... can't determine difference between the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two reports.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The execution is slowly matching the idea. I'm sure the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rteam will be keen to incorporate it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now the 'account cols' are matching the last leaf of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 'originating account'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead, the idea is to match the 'fullname' of the 'Other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account' for the transaction splits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this is easily done. I've made suitable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots showing the idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notice in the 2nd shot, all amounts will sum to $0 (because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each txn is balanced)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current Report
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inline images 1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desired Report
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inline images 3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 March 2017 at 05:28, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the version I had earlier, seems like it fits better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with your note
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try this version - see third item on display page, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> originally set it up for accounts instead of other accounts.  If it looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay I'll work on creating totals.  Works best when accounts that are open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are liabilities.  Is this the format you need r do you need accounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of other accounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS My multicolumn report is for transactional data rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than (eg) quarterly summaries. It converts from the following to the sample
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output later. I don't know why the standard reports offer nothing like this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01/01/17 Paycheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Income:Paid $-1000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Expense:TaxWithheld $-300
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Assets:Bank $700
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01/02/17 Paycheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Income:Paid $-2000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Expense:TaxWithheld $-600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Assets:Bank $1400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Outputs*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date, Income:Paid, Expense:TaxWithheld, Assets:Bank,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01/01/17, -1000, -300, 700, Paycheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01/02/17, -2000, -600, 1400, Paycheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Totals, -3000, -900, 2100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is for later spreadsheet processing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 March 2017 at 10:46, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, looks fine to me! C
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 March 2017 at 21:14, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I forgot to change the income statement report last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night - here is the orphan version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I forgot to mention only change on income
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement is the general section - same choices for dates as on transaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I finally played with the custom multi-column report
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today, I put 4 copies of profit / loss next to each other and used new date
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature to set each report to a different quarter, got me to thinking about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi column reports, so your python program looks interesting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for the comments, I'm still learning scheme ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll take a look at your report.  Try this one for imbalance / orphan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Doug, this looks good. I'd hope the wizards agree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to upgrade the reports.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like special handling for Imbalance-XXX. I wonder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it would be worthwhile also handling Orphan-XXX accounts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they have very similar purposes. (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gnucash.org/piper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail/gnucash-user/2011-September/041127.html from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Derek)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish I understood Scheme - I created a multicolumn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report to help me with quarterly tax obligations but they will never accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .py into standard reports -- from a transaction list, it will separate out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> splits into different columns. eg "Income:Sales" transactions on rows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Sales (tax-free)", "Tax received" etc on columns.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucashxml/tree/m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aster/reports -- if you can convert this to .scm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll be my hero :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 March 2017 at 23:08, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a few small changes to the display tab
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choices and added a few more choices on the general tab under specified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> period and specified last  - figured this was my last opportunity to easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change.  Once I submit it changes will have to be done thru the normal bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reports.  If you don't mind, please test it.  Also I added an optional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imbalance flag to both reports.  The settings default is to turn the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imbalance check on.  If the program checked for an imbalance it prints a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dash "-" at the bottom of the report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The new  income-expense-statement  will show up on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the report   -  income and  expense   menu as a duplicate income
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement   and duplicate profit & loss.  I am hoping they will replace the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current versions with the new one.   Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This latest report now seems to work. Tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various Consolidate/Common Currency combinations as well as the newer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options, and they all seem fine!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno if it can be considered a bug, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tick/untick "Find Text" which is nicely programmed to enable/disable the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent fields. This occasionally does not trigger. But I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reproduce this behavior. I think I've seen it in Standard Reports so it may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a Gnome issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case, thank you again! If only I understood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheme...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 March 2017 at 09:44, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to keep bothering you - I found a problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with multiple currencies in the running balance.  I think the attached file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I missed a spot, try this one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Christopher Lam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my tests. My datafile main currency is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MUR, also has transactions in EUR AUD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Untick Consolidate, untick common currency -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems fine - each currency has its own running total.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Untick Consolidate, tick common currency to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MUR - seems fine - each amount gets forex-converted appropriately, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's 1 correctly-calculated total amount in MUR. Let's call this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "GrandTotal-MUR"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tick Consolidate, Untick Common Currency -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems fine so far - amounts being added as expected even with multiple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currencies. Each currency will be given its separate line in the Total
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> section.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tick Consolidate, Tick Common Currency to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MUR -> amounts are being converted via MUR/XXX exchange rate. *Currency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols however remain as $ € etc. Totals still show one lines per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currency. These amounts, wrongly-labelled $ **€
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Rs, when added together matches GrandTotal-MUR as above.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Overall better because it is now no longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converting to the Preferences > Accounts > Default Currency. Definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going in the right direction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11 March 2017 at 22:02, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please try this version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Christopher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USD seems to show US$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUD shows $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAD shows C$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TBH I'd store the commodity guid rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11 March 2017 at 11:32, Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dollar Symbols were occasionally $ or US$ --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think better use commodity guid to distinguish?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cannot remember what does what. I'll test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I get back home! C
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11 Mar 2017 11:13, "Cindy Doughty" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you know if AUD and USD print the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbol - trying to see if I can use the symbol to differentiate currencies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:43 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scaling seems fine. Multiple currencies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being handled well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11 March 2017 at 10:41, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does the scaling work correctly for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple currencies -if you select one month and multiply by 12 are values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently for consolidating I only store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the items checked on the display page and the primary and secondary sort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.  If you select no items on the display page and set primary and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secondary to none the entire thing gets consolidated into one amount. Guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to always store the type of currency  so if three currencies are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used then three entries are shown.  I'll try and send you a file to test in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the next couple of days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:10 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my datafile I have accounts in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple currencies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I untick consolidate it seems fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Multiple currencies working well, filtering is perfect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I tick consolidate, as explained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before, the datafile currency is being ignored, and the default currency is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being used. Moreover, and perhaps more critically, EUR GBP USD raw values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being added together, and the final meaningless values are being labelled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the default currency.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11 March 2017 at 10:01, Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at the code the unconsolidated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stores  seems to store a pointer to the account name with each transaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and each account name can have its own type of currency.  I currently store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the account GUID with each transaction so you can click on the account name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it is displayed and open up the account.  Guess I could use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accountguid as a variable name and store in it each accounts type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currency.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:53 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean Report Options > General Tab
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Report's Currency?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand it should be disabled if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Common Currency' is unticked, however I have seen it being inadvertently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active - in which case it does nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Common Currency > Report's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currency is AUD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11 March 2017 at 09:40, Cindy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doughty <dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the setting you have under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options general  report currency?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:28 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher Lam <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> christopher.lck at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Functionality is *perfect* Thank you for deploying your scheme skills
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-OStill has currency display issue - not a major bug. But it can confuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future generations.Let's say the datafile is in AUD, but for some reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Edit>Preferences default currency is GBP (because I occasionally do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books for relatives)Untick Consolidate, untick 'Common Currency' = amounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are fine, currency will show Australian '$' correctlyTick Consolidate,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> untick 'Common Currency' = report will calculate amounts (correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summed), but will show £ prior to amount.Tick Consolidate, tick 'Common
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currency' for AUD = amounts ok, currency okUntick Consolidate, tick 'Common
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currency' for AUD = fine as wellHTHOn 11 March 2017 at 03:22, Cindy Doughty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dbdoughty at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Attached is an updated version of the transactionsbypayee file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please replace the old version with this file. This version should now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> display the correct currency for Euro and other currencies.  Also the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search or find command has been changed.  You can now search account names,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account codes, notes, and memo items in addition to transaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions.  You can also add a second requirement to the search such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all items which start with MC but not McDonald's.  Please let me know if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this fixes the currency problem and let me know if the find works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly. Doug Doughty On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Cindy Doughty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dbdoughty at gmail.com> wrote: > I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have modified the transaction report in four (4) ways. > > > > 1. On the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> display tab you can select to consolidate transactions and the > report
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will combine all similar transactions into one total entry.  By > checking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and unchecking entries on the display tab you can change how the > numbers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are combined - by description, memo, notes, account.  The date > ranged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is combined is controlled based on the date range selected on > the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorting tab.  You can combine for an entire year, by month, by week, or >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by quarter. > > > > 2. You can use the find option on the sorting tab to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limit the report to > only descriptions containing specific text and you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can limit the amount to > a given range such as only amounts greater than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500. > > > > 3. You can specify on the general tab you want all of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entries to be > scaled.  By which I mean you can take the results for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full year and > divide it by 365 to see what the amounts are on a daily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basis.  You can > also take the numbers for a quarter and multiply by 4 to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see what they > would look like on an annual basis. > > > > 4. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily select a time period on the general tab.  Such as last > quarter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd half of the year, or the month of January.  I have also > modified the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Income statement in the "other" menu to provide this same > capability. > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > There is also a check box on the display tab where you can change how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > running balance is calculated. > > > > To install, download the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached files and put them into your .gnucash > folder.  In windows for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is c:/users/UserName/.gnucash.  Warning if > you already have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config.user file then first put into a different folder > and then copy the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entries in config.user into your existing config.user > file.  The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transaction  report will show up under reports, the income > statement  in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Other". > > > > Sorry, the last time I posted the income statement I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed to upload one > of the files. > > > >  Please post any potential
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements to either the menus shown or to > the scheme programming code.
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