Issues with Jobs and Purchase Orders.

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 5/29/2017 10:45 PM, Bruce Danielson wrote:
> I agree Dave, and getting that done in 100 hours I think is optimistic.  Realistically I think it is probably well beyond the scope of “free” software.
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> If the developers ever considered offering a “Pro” version of GnuCash, on a pay per license basis, that might work.  NCH gets $70 a copy for theirs, and I think at its core, GnuCash is a better product,  But I’m not really familiar with Gnu’s philosophy.
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> Bruce
Commenting in the middle (for both above and below)

a) "Free Software" licensing means can't do THAT. What would be "legal" 
would be OTHER software that produced feeds (files of transactions, 
etc.) that could be imported into GnuCash. Not only for this. Think of 
other business needs like an inventory system, point of sales system, 
etc. BTW, that's often how large systems are designed, Thus where I used 
to work, a number of other systems sent feeds to the "general ledger" 
system << which was the accounting part >>

b) On time and cost. I don't know about Silicon Valley, but around here 
where I used to work, maybe $100/hour. But the time is a gross 
underestimate. Even if correct for the CODING time has left out many 
other parts of a successful "project". Start with meetings of a USER 
GROUP (+ business analyst) which will decide on exactly what this new 
subsystem will do. Then a systems analyst specs the new system and a 
testing plan for it. Only then it is coded. Then it is tested (user 
group for that too). Where I worked they used to estimate the coding 
part as usually 40% or under of the total time << remember, a 2 hour 
meeting with 5 users and an analyst is 12 people hours >>

I would NOT be willing to get involved volunteering my time unless there 
were a committed user group willing to do their parts. Too often we see 
complaints after "does not do what I expected or what I need". Sorry, 
but the new program IS correct, it does what it does, where were YOU 
when it was time to specify what it was SUPPOSED to do?  What it had to 
do to satisfy your needs?

Michael D Novack, FLMI      retired senior systems/business analyst for 
one of the world's largest insurance companies



From: drkirkby at gmail.com [mailto:drkirkby at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Dr. 
David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 2:44 PM 
To: Bruce Danielson Cc: Adrien Monteleone; GNU Cash User Subject: Re: 
Issues with Jobs and Purchase Orders. On 29 May 2017 at 16:53, Bruce 
Danielson <DanielsonB at logroom.com> wrote: I see that clearly Dave as an 
excellent addition – and quotations are related to purchase orders as 
invoices are to bills and customers to vendors. Thanks for that bit of 
insight. Bruce I doubt quotations and/or purchase orders will be added 
any time soon - if at all. I did offer one of the GnuCash developers a 
modest sum ($100) if he could add support for quotations, as it would 
benefit my business. He did not do jobs for money, but someone else who 
would, had no time to do the job. But the developer estimated adding 
support for quotations would be 100 hours of work, and I told the amount 
of money a software developer earned in Silicon Valley was about 
$500/hour. A simple bit of maths indicates that to pay for this to be 
developed on a commercial basis ($50,000) , which was far in excess of 
the $100 I was offering. The developers have a roadmap, 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Roadmap which seems primarily on cleaning 
up the code. Hence unless there was a substantial amount of money 
raised, I don't think quotations will be added any time soon, and I'm 
lead to believe purchase orders would be similar code. If someone could 
find a GnuCash developer willing to add purchase orders / quotations for 
a fixed feed, and there was crowdfunding to get it going, conceivably 
these features could be added. But I don't think this is likely to 
happen to be honest. Dave 
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