[GNC] Column widths again
David Carlson
david.carlson.417 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 20 13:14:27 EDT 2018
I think that I technically hijacked the thread by digressing to
documentation issues. Unfortunately, I do not see the thread title or a
way to rename it in my Gmail window. If Adrien or another user can detach
this , I would appreciate it.
David C
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:04 PM, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com
> wrote:
> Adrien,
>
> Thank you for your research and detailed response. 🙂
> I fully agree with your conclusions.
>
>
> I got the reference to section 4.2 directly from
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/txns-
> register-oview.html#txns-regstyle1 which I arrived at when I followed the
> link called " Tutorial and Concepts Guide, Choosing a Register Style
> <https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/txns-register-oview.html#txns-regstyle1>).
> " in https://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=help. Naturally, I
> thought I was in the Tutorial...
>
> David C
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
>> I’ve never seen any documentation on it. I only confirmed it’s there
>> after I read Derek’s comment and expanded the column myself to see it.
>>
>> I just did a search of the GnuCash site, wiki and html docs and I don’t
>> see anything on the column, other than a pair of IRC logs from 2009 where
>> someone asked what it was for, and a couple of hits (appears duplicated)
>> documenting commits from 2017-09-4. I didn’t read the commit itself, but it
>> was summarized by Robert Fewell as “Add a heading for the Rate column.”
>>
>> Concerning where to put the info, I’m not sure the Tutorial is the right
>> place. (there is no 4.2, for example)
>>
>> However, the help guide has 4.3.5 List of Transactions which documents
>> the column headings. I think if that section were more detailed with
>> screenshots, lots of questions could be answered or even avoided.
>>
>> Some things to add here:
>>
>> The ability to resize columns and an explanation of how the Description
>> column is special and how resizing works.
>>
>> An explanation with screenshots of the different types of registers
>> showing the respective columns. (unless they are all the same, save
>> terminology choices, then you’d only need one screenshot)
>>
>> An explanation of the formal vs. non-formal labels for each account type.
>> (a full listing of what the non-formal labels are for each type)
>>
>> Screenshots depicting each of the modes: single-line, double-line,
>> transaction journal.
>>
>> An explanation of what each cell in the transaction is for. (many don’t
>> know the utilit(ies) of NUM or Action for example.) Not everything is
>> self-evident. Perhaps here include a link to a special wiki page or to
>> Using GnuCash where the different ’tricks’ for using those and other fields
>> to accomplish user specific goals are (or should be) documented.
>>
>> I would be happy to get set up for editing and start on this unless you
>> already planned on running with it.
>>
>> Finally, “Tutorial & Concepts Guide” is a bit winded. Could it simply be
>> “Tutorial” or “Using GnuCash”? (and then incorporate any ‘official’ methods
>> from that wiki page into the document, with a link to that page for the
>> non-standard methods)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>> > On Aug 20, 2018, at 10:57 AM, David Carlson <
>> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I just tried to find reference to the rate field in the Tutorial and I
>> found nothing.
>> >
>> > I think it should probably be mentioned in chapter 4 section 4.2. That
>> section even fails to explain single line vs two line view or dragging
>> around field widths, so it has a long way to go before it could describe
>> the presence of the rate field and how to access it.
>> >
>> > Is this information posted elsewhere?
>> >
>> > David C
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 9:44 AM Adrien Monteleone <
>> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>> > It’s still there as of 3.2.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Adrien
>> >
>> > > On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> writes:
>> > >
>> > >> Graham,
>> > >>
>> > >> "Transfer" is short for "Transfer Account" and is the field where the
>> > >> "other" account--other than the one in the current register--is
>> > >> set. It's often called the "account" field in casual use.
>> > >>
>> > >> I think GTI made a translation error, the "rate" field is probably
>> > >> "price" on a stock/mutual fund register, which has two more columns
>> > >> than the other registers.
>> > >
>> > > No, there is (unless it was removed) a "RATE" field to the right of
>> the
>> > > balance column. It's a "hidden" column, with a default width of one
>> > > pixel, which is (was?) used for the exchange-rate handling of
>> > > multi-currency transactions/splits.
>> > >
>> > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
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>> > >
>> > > -derek
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
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