[GNC] Column widths again

Colin Law clanlaw at gmail.com
Mon Aug 20 16:58:01 EDT 2018


On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 18:17, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think that I technically hijacked the thread by digressing to
> documentation issues.


No technically about it, actually would be a better word I think.  I was
thoroughly confused about what was going on.

Could a new thread be started for the documentation aspects of this please?

Colin


>   Unfortunately, I do not see the thread title or a
> way to rename it in my Gmail window.  If Adrien or another user can detach
> this , I would appreciate it.
>
> David C
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:04 PM, David Carlson <
> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Adrien,
> >
> > Thank you for your research and detailed response. 🙂
> > I fully agree with your conclusions.
> >
> >
> > I got the reference to section 4.2 directly from
> > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/txns-
> > register-oview.html#txns-regstyle1 which I arrived at when I followed the
> > link called " Tutorial and Concepts Guide, Choosing a Register Style
> > <
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/txns-register-oview.html#txns-regstyle1
> >).
> > " in https://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=help.  Naturally, I
> > thought I was in the Tutorial...
> >
> > David C
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
> > adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I’ve never seen any documentation on it. I only confirmed it’s there
> >> after I read Derek’s comment and expanded the column myself to see it.
> >>
> >> I just did a search of the GnuCash site, wiki and html docs and I don’t
> >> see anything on the column, other than a pair of IRC logs from 2009
> where
> >> someone asked what it was for, and a couple of hits (appears duplicated)
> >> documenting commits from 2017-09-4. I didn’t read the commit itself,
> but it
> >> was summarized by Robert Fewell as “Add a heading for the Rate column.”
> >>
> >> Concerning where to put the info, I’m not sure the Tutorial is the right
> >> place. (there is no 4.2, for example)
> >>
> >> However, the help guide has 4.3.5 List of Transactions which documents
> >> the column headings. I think if that section were more detailed with
> >> screenshots, lots of questions could be answered or even avoided.
> >>
> >> Some things to add here:
> >>
> >> The ability to resize columns and an explanation of how the Description
> >> column is special and how resizing works.
> >>
> >> An explanation with screenshots of the different types of registers
> >> showing the respective columns. (unless they are all the same, save
> >> terminology choices, then you’d only need one screenshot)
> >>
> >> An explanation of the formal vs. non-formal labels for each account
> type.
> >> (a full listing of what the non-formal labels are for each type)
> >>
> >> Screenshots depicting each of the modes: single-line, double-line,
> >> transaction journal.
> >>
> >> An explanation of what each cell in the transaction is for. (many don’t
> >> know the utilit(ies) of NUM or Action for example.) Not everything is
> >> self-evident. Perhaps here include a link to a special wiki page or to
> >> Using GnuCash where the different ’tricks’ for using those and other
> fields
> >> to accomplish user specific goals are (or should be) documented.
> >>
> >> I would be happy to get set up for editing and start on this unless you
> >> already planned on running with it.
> >>
> >> Finally, “Tutorial & Concepts Guide” is a bit winded. Could it simply be
> >> “Tutorial” or “Using GnuCash”? (and then incorporate any ‘official’
> methods
> >> from that wiki page into the document, with a link to that page for the
> >> non-standard methods)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >>
> >> > On Aug 20, 2018, at 10:57 AM, David Carlson <
> >> david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I just tried to find reference to the rate field in the Tutorial and I
> >> found nothing.
> >> >
> >> > I think it should probably be mentioned in chapter 4 section 4.2.
> That
> >> section even fails to explain single line vs two line view or dragging
> >> around field widths, so it has a long way to go before it could describe
> >> the presence of the rate field and how to access it.
> >> >
> >> > Is this information posted elsewhere?
> >> >
> >> > David C
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 9:44 AM Adrien Monteleone <
> >> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >> > It’s still there as of 3.2.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Adrien
> >> >
> >> > > On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Derek Atkins <warlord at MIT.EDU> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> writes:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Graham,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Transfer" is short for "Transfer Account" and is the field where
> the
> >> > >> "other" account--other than the one in the current register--is
> >> > >> set. It's often called the "account" field in casual use.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I think GTI made a translation error, the "rate" field is probably
> >> > >> "price" on a stock/mutual fund register, which has two more columns
> >> > >> than the other registers.
> >> > >
> >> > > No, there is (unless it was removed) a "RATE" field to the right of
> >> the
> >> > > balance column.  It's a "hidden" column, with a default width of one
> >> > > pixel, which is (was?) used for the exchange-rate handling of
> >> > > multi-currency transactions/splits.
> >> > >
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> >> > >
> >> > > -derek
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >       Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
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