General Ledger

Sat Feb 24 04:58:28 EST 2018

Op zaterdag 24 februari 2018 00:46:07 CET schreef David Carlson:
> This thread seems like deja vu to me.  I thought this was discussed before
> and the result was that GnuCash changed the name of one or the other in
> release 2.6.18 or thereabouts.
> 
> Am I dreaming?
> 
> David C
> 

You're not dreaming. This has been discussed before and there was even a 
bugreport for it:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122895

I have personally applied all the required changes to use "General Journal" 
consistently in GnuCash. This fix was applied in February 2015. However as 
this affected many translatable strings, I decided back then to fix this only 
on master (to become 3.0 soon). So gnucash 2.6 will still use the term 
"General Ledger".

And looking further I have found I then mixed things up in October 2015: after 
some discussion I have started changing the term in the stable documentation 
as well (2.6.x). So we're now in the unfortunate situation the application 
still uses the term General Ledger and the associated documentation uses the 
term General Journal.

I have reverted these unintended corrections on the 2.6 documentation so the 
last 2.6.x release will still consistently use the old "General Ledger" term 
and 3.0 will consistently switch to "General Journal".

Sorry for the confusion this created.

Regards,

Geert

> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Buddha Buck <blaisepascal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I suspect that GnuCash terminology regarding journals and ledgers is
> > somewhat confused and non-standard.
> > 
> > My basic understanding of classical accounting is that transactions were
> > first entered into journals, and then posted into ledgers, one per
> > account.
> > The collection of ledger books was the "general ledger", while the nominal
> > time-ordered collection of journal entries was the "general journal" (or
> > the "general journal" was the journal in which transactions which didn't
> > belong in the sales journal, purchase journal, etc were recorded).
> > 
> > In GnuCash terms, a classical account ledger would correspond to a GnuCash
> > account register. And the classic general journal would correspond to
> > GnuCash's general ledger. The classic general ledger might even be a
> > GnuCash book as a whole. I don't know what GnuCash is calling a general
> > journal.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:43 PM Adrien Monteleone <
> > 
> > adrien.monteleone at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Stan,
> > > 
> > > No I knew you were referring to the Ledger and I think David did also
> > > though he linked to the help on the Journal.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, it seems the Help file needs a tweak. (or the software)
> > 
> > The
> > 
> > > link he gives describes in fact, the General Ledger. The terminology on
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > title and within the help article are inconsistent with the naming in
> > > the
> > > software. (though Journal is probably the more historically correct
> > > term,
> > > the two might be interchangeable)
> > > 
> > > In the software, the General Journal is a report you can run that shows
> > > ALL transactions. (under the Assets & Liabilities sub-menu) You can’t
> > 
> > enter
> > 
> > > anything into it. There is no date selector in the options, and the
> > 
> > Filter
> > 
> > > By… in View is not available.
> > > 
> > > Since I don’t close books I see everything when I look at either.
> > > Perhaps
> > > someone who uses that procedure might see only the current accounting
> > > period - I’m not sure.
> > > 
> > > To add to the confusion, there is also a General Ledger report located
> > > in
> > > that same menu. However, it seems to be the same as the Transaction
> > 
> > Report
> > 
> > > and is much more versatile than the General Journal report.
> > > 
> > > For the record, I don’t see any separate ‘tool’ or ‘register’ called
> > > General Journal at least not in my copy of 2.6.19.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Adrien
> > > 
> > > > On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm>
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Thanks, Adrien.
> > > > 
> > > > Please note that I asked about the general ledger, not the general
> > > 
> > > journal, but I see that the filter works the same way (now that I know
> > > to
> > > try it).
> > > 
> > > > As the documentation mentions only the general journal, maybe "and
> > > 
> > > general ledger" should be added, for the benefit of folks who are
> > 
> > searching
> > 
> > > for it?
> > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Stan Brown
> > > > the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm
> > > > http://BrownMath.com
> > > > http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > > >> And unfortunately, this filter change is not sticky. You’ll have to
> > > >> reset it each time you load the GL. This is already a filed bug.
> > > >> 
> > > >>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:47 AM, David T. via gnucash-user <
> > > 
> > > gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> > > >>> "The General Journal defaults to showing only the previous month of
> > > 
> > > transactions. This is changeable by using the "Filter By..." on the View
> > > menu."
> > > 
> > > >>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:27 PM, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>> There doesn't seem to be any documentation of Tools » General
> > 
> > Ledger,
> > 
> > > >>>> neither in the Help Manual nor in the Concepts Tutorial. (I
> > > >>>> couldn't
> > > >>>> find an answer in the FAQ or Using GnuCash either.)
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> I have transactions entered from 2017-12-31 though 2018-01-31. But
> > 
> > for
> > 
> > > >>>> some reason, the General Ledger shows only 2018-01-23 through
> > > >>>> 2018-01-31. ...
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> Please note: I'm talking about the General Ledger _tool_, not the
> > > >>>> report. I want the ability to correct transactions that I get in
> > > >>>> the
> > > 
> > > tool.
> > > 
> > > 
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