General Ledger

Sat Feb 24 16:54:15 EST 2018

Well from my point of view that is confusing.  Nobody in my world refers to
a "General Journal" we refer to the "General Ledger" and we do journals
:-)  I've never actually heard the term general journal used anywhere
before until this discussion over the weekend !!!

Cheers Dave H.

On 24 February 2018 at 19:58, Geert Janssens <geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be>
wrote:

> Op zaterdag 24 februari 2018 00:46:07 CET schreef David Carlson:
> > This thread seems like deja vu to me.  I thought this was discussed
> before
> > and the result was that GnuCash changed the name of one or the other in
> > release 2.6.18 or thereabouts.
> >
> > Am I dreaming?
> >
> > David C
> >
>
> You're not dreaming. This has been discussed before and there was even a
> bugreport for it:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122895
>
> I have personally applied all the required changes to use "General Journal"
> consistently in GnuCash. This fix was applied in February 2015. However as
> this affected many translatable strings, I decided back then to fix this
> only
> on master (to become 3.0 soon). So gnucash 2.6 will still use the term
> "General Ledger".
>
> And looking further I have found I then mixed things up in October 2015:
> after
> some discussion I have started changing the term in the stable
> documentation
> as well (2.6.x). So we're now in the unfortunate situation the application
> still uses the term General Ledger and the associated documentation uses
> the
> term General Journal.
>
> I have reverted these unintended corrections on the 2.6 documentation so
> the
> last 2.6.x release will still consistently use the old "General Ledger"
> term
> and 3.0 will consistently switch to "General Journal".
>
> Sorry for the confusion this created.
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Buddha Buck <blaisepascal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I suspect that GnuCash terminology regarding journals and ledgers is
> > > somewhat confused and non-standard.
> > >
> > > My basic understanding of classical accounting is that transactions
> were
> > > first entered into journals, and then posted into ledgers, one per
> > > account.
> > > The collection of ledger books was the "general ledger", while the
> nominal
> > > time-ordered collection of journal entries was the "general journal"
> (or
> > > the "general journal" was the journal in which transactions which
> didn't
> > > belong in the sales journal, purchase journal, etc were recorded).
> > >
> > > In GnuCash terms, a classical account ledger would correspond to a
> GnuCash
> > > account register. And the classic general journal would correspond to
> > > GnuCash's general ledger. The classic general ledger might even be a
> > > GnuCash book as a whole. I don't know what GnuCash is calling a general
> > > journal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:43 PM Adrien Monteleone <
> > >
> > > adrien.monteleone at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Stan,
> > > >
> > > > No I knew you were referring to the Ledger and I think David did also
> > > > though he linked to the help on the Journal.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, it seems the Help file needs a tweak. (or the
> software)
> > >
> > > The
> > >
> > > > link he gives describes in fact, the General Ledger. The terminology
> on
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > title and within the help article are inconsistent with the naming in
> > > > the
> > > > software. (though Journal is probably the more historically correct
> > > > term,
> > > > the two might be interchangeable)
> > > >
> > > > In the software, the General Journal is a report you can run that
> shows
> > > > ALL transactions. (under the Assets & Liabilities sub-menu) You can’t
> > >
> > > enter
> > >
> > > > anything into it. There is no date selector in the options, and the
> > >
> > > Filter
> > >
> > > > By… in View is not available.
> > > >
> > > > Since I don’t close books I see everything when I look at either.
> > > > Perhaps
> > > > someone who uses that procedure might see only the current accounting
> > > > period - I’m not sure.
> > > >
> > > > To add to the confusion, there is also a General Ledger report
> located
> > > > in
> > > > that same menu. However, it seems to be the same as the Transaction
> > >
> > > Report
> > >
> > > > and is much more versatile than the General Journal report.
> > > >
> > > > For the record, I don’t see any separate ‘tool’ or ‘register’ called
> > > > General Journal at least not in my copy of 2.6.19.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Adrien
> > > >
> > > > > On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Stan Brown <
> the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Thanks, Adrien.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please note that I asked about the general ledger, not the general
> > > >
> > > > journal, but I see that the filter works the same way (now that I
> know
> > > > to
> > > > try it).
> > > >
> > > > > As the documentation mentions only the general journal, maybe "and
> > > >
> > > > general ledger" should be added, for the benefit of folks who are
> > >
> > > searching
> > >
> > > > for it?
> > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Stan Brown
> > > > > the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm
> > > > > http://BrownMath.com
> > > > > http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > > > >> And unfortunately, this filter change is not sticky. You’ll have
> to
> > > > >> reset it each time you load the GL. This is already a filed bug.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:47 AM, David T. via gnucash-user <
> > > >
> > > > gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> > > > >>> "The General Journal defaults to showing only the previous month
> of
> > > >
> > > > transactions. This is changeable by using the "Filter By..." on the
> View
> > > > menu."
> > > >
> > > > >>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:27 PM, Stan Brown <
> the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>> There doesn't seem to be any documentation of Tools » General
> > >
> > > Ledger,
> > >
> > > > >>>> neither in the Help Manual nor in the Concepts Tutorial. (I
> > > > >>>> couldn't
> > > > >>>> find an answer in the FAQ or Using GnuCash either.)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I have transactions entered from 2017-12-31 though 2018-01-31.
> But
> > >
> > > for
> > >
> > > > >>>> some reason, the General Ledger shows only 2018-01-23 through
> > > > >>>> 2018-01-31. ...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Please note: I'm talking about the General Ledger _tool_, not
> the
> > > > >>>> report. I want the ability to correct transactions that I get in
> > > > >>>> the
> > > >
> > > > tool.
> > > >
> > > >
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