[GNC] Fwd: The two modules
Christopher Lam
christopher.lck at gmail.com
Mon Jun 18 18:32:58 EDT 2018
Hi Stephen
One of the most unique features of gnucash is the multilevel account
hierarchy, meaning both parent accounts and child accounts can carry
balances.
Would you mind liaising with the house accountant to ask about the
following COA and the resulting balance sheet
Asset (bal=$0.00)
Asset:Bank1 (bal=$0.00)
Asset:Bank1:Savings (bal=$100)
Asset:Bank1:Bonds (bal=$2000)
Asset:Bank2:Current (bal=$500)
Asset:House (bal=$100,000, cost price)
Asset:ForeignBank:Savings (bal=GBP 500, bought last year at a rate of 1
GBP = 1.25 USD
Asset:Broker (bal=$2000) i.e.cash with broker
Asset:Broker:Funds [stock] (bal=20units bought @ $200 each)
Liability (bal=$0)
Liability:Bank2 (bal=$0)
Liability:Bank2:Loan (bal=-$9,000)
Liability:Bank2:Creditcard (bal=-$500)
Let's assume the current valuation of the unit funds is $250 i.e.
unrealized gains of $1000; the house is currently valued at $110,000,
and today 1 GBP = 1.30 USD :)
How should the full expanded balance sheet look like? (XLS is fine) (if
there are missing lines e.g. retained earnings etc please make up
numbers and offer exact source)
Thanks!
On 19/06/18 00:16, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
> Yes, it is the alignment of numbers that is the problem.
>
> Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM
> Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com
> kg7je at arrl.net
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> On 06/18/2018 06:35 AM, Christopher Lam wrote:
>> Hi Stephen
>> Thank you this is very helpful.
>> From my understanding the non-eguile version does produce satisfactory
>> headings and contents.
>> However its alignment of numbers is odd?
>> Is the alignment of subtotals and totals perfect in your amended
>> eguile report? How should it look if there are deeper levels of
>> subaccounts?
>> For html export, open the report tab, then File>Export>Export Report.
>> I believe the standard balsheet can be refined but this will take some
>> time.
>> C
>>
>> On 18 June 2018 at 00:32, Stephen M. Butler <kg7je at arrl.net
>> <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting on the age. I thought I'd downloaded the most recent
>> Linux
>> install. But, my version is 2.6.19 built from rev c1b5e6c8d+ on
>> 2018-04-09. May be best to wait for the next release due out
>> early next
>> week and see how those reports look.
>>
>> In the interim, attached are:
>> 1. GVE.gnucash -- my current set of books for an apartment
>> building I'm
>> selling
>> 2. Balance Sheet - standard.pdf -- Standard Balance Sheet report
>> (unformatted)
>> 3. Balance Sheet - formatted.pdf -- Eguile balance sheet after my
>> changes were applied
>> (Wife still has problems but willing to work with this.
>> Specifically, the "Profit/Loss" line should be part of Equities and be
>> added just after Retained earnings. She thinks I should have just one
>> line of retained earnings rather than the yearly line I created when
>> closing the books each year -- I'll have to clean up my chart of
>> accounts to accomplish that -- sigh!) Plus, I have top level accounts
>> with the five major names (Assets, Liabilities, Equities -- maybe
>> should
>> rename to Capital, Income and Expense). So the report does look funny
>> with the section titles repeated due to my top level accounts.
>>
>> I was going to include the eguile version -- but it no longer wants to
>> link in when I put that code back in place. Wish I truly
>> understood how
>> that linkage works. Doesn't seem to function as documented -- at
>> least
>> as to how I read/understood the document! But, since eguile is going
>> away, that probably doesn't matter.
>>
>> Also, is there a way to dump the html version of the reports. I think
>> that is what you wanted but I've only figured out how to capture
>> the pdf
>> version to a file rather than letting it print. Seems strange as I do
>> have 20 years on Unix type systems -- but mostly as an Oracle DBA and
>> didn't delve deep into the O/S. Even my korn shell scripting ability
>> has atrophied in the past year.
>>
>> I need to head out and attempt to destroy some bamboo that the
>> previous
>> owner let escape. Plus put in the column bases for the greenhouse the
>> wife wants for her orchids. Isn't retirement fun! How did I ever
>> have
>> time to make the daily trip to downtown Seattle for a living?
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>>
>> Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM
>> Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com <mailto:Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com>
>> kg7je at arrl.net <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net>
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>> On 06/15/2018 09:06 PM, Christopher Lam wrote:
>> > Thanks; this is from an old version of eguile balsheet which is
>> > already obsolete in 3.X onwards, and I know it'll be more
>> difficult to
>> > fix as time goes by. There are already changes from timepair to
>> > time64, compulsory CSS, removal of slots access... There is no
>> active
>> > eguile maintainer anymore, and I really cannot understand eguile.
>> >
>> > Would you be kind to comment upon the HTML output (File > Export >
>> > Export Report) of the standard (non-eguile) balsheet, with desired
>> > amendments? I can try to amend with backward compatibility.
>> >
>> > For bonus points, if you have a sample datafile with accounts and
>> > transactions that highlight the various functionality of balsheet
>> > (e.g. income/expense, equity, any foreign currency conversions or
>> > stock purchases - I'm sure the wife will have them in her textbooks)
>> > I'm sure I can fix the standard balsheet to her standards!
>> >
>> > So, wishlist:
>> >
>> > * datafile with example transactions
>> > * current html report of standard balsheet
>> > * annotated ideal report produced by standard balsheet :)
>> >
>> > Let's keep this discussion public for external input too.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: *Stephen M. Butler* <kg7je at arrl.net <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net> <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net
>> <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net>>>
>> > Date: 16 June 2018 at 00:45
>> > Subject: The two modules
>> > To: Christopher Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com
>> <mailto:christopher.lck at gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:christopher.lck at gmail.com <mailto:christopher.lck at gmail.com>>>
>> >
>> > Hope this helps. As I mentioned in the list email, perhaps
>> there is a
>> > way to show the Trading Accounts if they are present and suppress if
>> > they are not.
>> >
>> > Also, I think it would be acceptable to have an Income/Expense
>> Report on
>> > a separate page but generated by the same module. That would ensure
>> > that the Profit/Loss line (or whatever folks want to call it)
>> would be
>> > the same for both reports. But my wife was adamant that they
>> are two
>> > separate reports.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the example as this is my first time seeing this
>> language.
>> > You might find that I took some shortcuts where it wasn't
>> appropriate
>> > for the long haul -- especially around the printing of the
>> Profit/Loss
>> > line. I'm still now sure what the #t #f and a couple of the other
>> > parameters actually do -- I just got the report to look right!
>> >
>> > --Steve
>> >
>> > --
>> > Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM
>> > Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:Stephen.M.Butler51 at gmail.com>>
>> > kg7je at arrl.net <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net> <mailto:kg7je at arrl.net
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