[GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

John Ralls jralls at ceridwen.us
Sun Apr 7 19:33:05 EDT 2019 

Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.

What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is your userid an Administrator?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this path and file name:
> C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of Dropbox, Failure!)
> The error message reads:
> "You attempted to save in H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal use....Please try again in a different directory. (close).
> 
> Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128 chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> 
> So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within the windows user folder? 
> 
> Things are getting curiouser
> 
> 
> Kind regards,¯¯
> Greg
> 
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e. c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> 
> I was able to successfully save
> C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> and its log file 
> C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter path than 2.6.x did:
> > 
> > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length, but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > 
> > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Success!
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash  (65 chars) Failure!
> > 
> > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to G and still got the same problem
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars) Failure!
> > 
> > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is slightly different.
> > "You attempted to save in [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal use....Please try again in a different directory. (close)."  See screen shot here https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> > This was the actual attempted path:
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars) Failure! although same char count
> > 
> > More testing:
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> > 
> > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max character count go up?
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars) Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash (66 chars) Success!  
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash (83 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash (100 chars) Success!
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash (145 chars) Success!
> > 
> > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure looks like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder count and path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path character count is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145 characters.  
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used 2.6.x to save to the same location without trouble.
> > 
> > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
> > 
> > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21, and was:
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019 8:01AM)
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
> > 
> > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the file name test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I went one folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I kept shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save, which was as follows:
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
> > 
> > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I still get the the same problem.
> > 
> > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\         fails just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\ 
> > 
> > A screen shot of the error
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
> > 
> > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the folder names and no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  However, this time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it got some of it right.
> > 
> > A screen shot of that is here:
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with 3.5, and please remind me what OS you're using.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> > 
> > 
> > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual location that I
> > > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason 3.5 has a
> > > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I just
> > > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask for help
> > > with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go back to
> > > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was previously saved by
> > > 3.5.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kind regards,
> > > 
> > > Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael <michael at fross.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have you found
> > >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
> > >> 
> > >> Michael
> > >> 
> > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> 
> > >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to 2.6.21.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed and saved
> > >>> by
> > >>> 3.5?
> > >>> 
> > >>> Kind regards,
> > >>> 
> > >>> Greg
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