[GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

Sun Apr 7 20:29:31 EDT 2019

Hi, Jack,

In this case the issue is on Win 7-64 computer, and it appears I can only
have a generous path length if I save within the windows' user folder.
Otherwise I get an error message that claims I'm saving in a location where
I'm not and that the location is reserved.
Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Galaxy S7)

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019, 16:16 Jack Lockard <jelockard at outlook.com> wrote:

> I found the following info on Dropbox and Windows 10:
>
> The Dropbox app for Windows 10 allows you to access your files, but it
> doesn't allow you to sync them to your PC. For Dropbox syncing you'll need
> to install the desktop sync app first. If you have not installed the sync
> app then all that is stored locally is a link to the cloud storage URL
> which could be quite large. Perhaps that is where the issue lies.
>
> David mentioned in another email that on his MAC the fully qualified
> path/filename was quite large with a bunch of repeating "../" in it.
>
> Jack
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+jelockard=outlook.com at gnucash.org>
> On Behalf Of Greg Feneis
> Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:05 PM
> To: John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21
>
> John,
>
> I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
> path and file name:
> C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official Working
> File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
> Dropbox, Failure!) The error message reads:
> "You attempted to save in H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
> or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that
> directory for internal use....Please try again in a different directory.
> (close).
>
> Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
>
> So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving within
> the windows user folder?
>
> Things are getting curiouser
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Greg
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
>
> > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
> > create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> > c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> >
> > I was able to successfully save
> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> > and its log file
> > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
> > > path
> > than 2.6.x did:
> > >
> > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
> > > it,
> > but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
> > worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names
> > used spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do
> > with length, but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > >
> > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> > Success!
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
> > > (65
> > chars) Failure!
> > >
> > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down to
> > > G
> > and still got the same problem
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
> > Failure!
> > >
> > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
> > GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character
> > count that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this
> > is slightly different.
> > > "You attempted to save in
> > > [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
> > or a subdirectory thereof. This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves
> > that directory for internal use....Please try again in a different
> directory.
> > (close)."  See screen shot here
> > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> > dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fpa3gdy6c2w21x6u%2F2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg%3Fdl%3D0&am
> > p;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb3676aae59bd4533c26d08d6bbae694b%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
> > fb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636902755094184347&sdata=5U8OehuMo7h%2
> > BbJnENplg2CYDoRCrT7N4FJz9nZh0ff8%3D&reserved=0
> > > This was the actual attempted path:
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> > Failure! although same char count
> > >
> > > More testing:
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)  Failure!
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> > >
> > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max
> > > character
> > count go up?
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars)
> > Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash
> > > (66
> > chars) Success!
> > >
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath
> > \test.gnucash
> > (83 chars) Success!
> > >
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath
> > AndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> > (100 chars) Success!
> > >
> > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLo
> > ngPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gn
> > ucash
> > (145 chars) Success!
> > >
> > > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure
> > > looks
> > like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder count
> > and path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path
> > character count is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145
> characters.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used
> > > 2.6.x
> > to save to the same location without trouble.
> > >
> > > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
> > >
> > > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21,
> > > and
> > was:
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log
> > (4/1/2019
> > 8:01AM)
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
> > >
> > > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the
> > > file
> > name test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I
> > went one folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same
> > way.  I kept shortening the path folder by folder like this until it
> > did save, which was as follows:
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
> > >
> > > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path
> > > exactly
> > like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I
> > still get the the same problem.
> > >
> > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
>  fails
> > just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
> > >
> > > A screen shot of the error
> > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
> > > w.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fgd8rlgj1kvv0ysn%2F2019-04-05_18-37-52.png%3Fdl%3
> > > D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb3676aae59bd4533c26d08d6bbae694b%7C84df9e7f
> > > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636902755094194358&sdata=R3pg
> > > qEKE8A2LucbhZs82wgblkG8XQtzEMyO7WVEVJEg%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> > > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path
> > > exactly
> > like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the folder
> > names and no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  However,
> > this time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error
> > message, it got some of it right.
> > >
> > > A screen shot of that is here:
> > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
> > > w.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fe3p0agpdlkmzia4%2F2019-04-05_18-52-26.png%3Fdl%3
> > > D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb3676aae59bd4533c26d08d6bbae694b%7C84df9e7f
> > > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636902755094194358&sdata=dEWI
> > > EAWzPpwxvl2l4imPtq%2FWtft7h0%2F7CT8svqAb6Gc%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > > That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with
> > > 3.5,
> > and please remind me what OS you're using.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Ralls
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual
> > > > location
> > that I
> > > > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason 3.5
> > > > has
> > a
> > > > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I
> > > > just thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to
> > > > ask for help with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble,
> > > > I'll just go back to 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file
> > > > that was previously
> > saved by
> > > > 3.5.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Greg Feneis
> > > > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F
> > > > www.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Felectromechanical&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb3
> > > > 676aae59bd4533c26d08d6bbae694b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%
> > > > 7C1%7C0%7C636902755094194358&sdata=n36NxxifMk4%2BIzKNIUrZPnD1j
> > > > Z3WT%2FKdyRg2Rwb9Xtk%3D&reserved=0>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael <michael at fross.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have
> > > >> you
> > found
> > > >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
> > > >>
> > > >> Michael
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to
> 2.6.21.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed
> > > >>> and
> > saved
> > > >>> by
> > > >>> 3.5?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kind regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Greg
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