[GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

Colin Law clanlaw at gmail.com
Thu Apr 11 03:56:36 EDT 2019


Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
clue to what is going on.

Colin

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the usual
> location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Galaxy S7)
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
> > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the usual
> > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Greg Feneis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't ruled
> >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
> >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Greg,
> >>>
> >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
> >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features you
> >>> use.
> >>>
> >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, file
> >>> a bug.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> John Ralls
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Just a coupe of questions,
> >>> >
> >>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
> >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
> >>> >
> >>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
> >>> >
> >>> > Kind regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Greg Feneis
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Hi John,
> >>> >
> >>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
> >>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
> >>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Kind regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Greg Feneis
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> >>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
> >>> >
> >>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
> >>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
> >>> your userid an Administrator?
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > John Ralls
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > John,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of
> >>> the Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried
> >>> this path and file name:
> >>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
> >>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
> >>> Dropbox, Failure!)
> >>> > > The error message reads:
> >>> > > "You attempted to save in
> >>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> >>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> >>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized
> >>> you spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
> >>> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
> >>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> >>> > >
> >>> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
> >>> within the windows user folder?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Things are getting curiouser
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Kind regards,¯¯
> >>> > > Greg
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could
> >>> you create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> >>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I was able to successfully save
> >>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> >>> > > and its log file
> >>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Regards,
> >>> > > John Ralls
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
> >>> path than 2.6.x did:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
> >>> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
> >>> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used
> >>> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length,
> >>> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> >>> Success!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
> >>> (65 chars) Failure!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down
> >>> to G and still got the same problem
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
> >>> Failure!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down
> >>> to GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character
> >>> count that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is
> >>> slightly different.
> >>> > > > "You attempted to save in
> >>> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
> >>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> >>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close)."  See screen
> >>> shot here
> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> >>> > > > This was the actual attempted path:
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
> >>> Failure! although same char count
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > More testing:
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)
> >>> Failure!
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max
> >>> character count go up?
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars)
> >>> Success!
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars)
> >>> Success!
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars)
> >>> Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash
> >>> (66 chars) Success!
> >>> > > >
> >>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> >>> (83 chars) Success!
> >>> > > >
> >>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> >>> (100 chars) Success!
> >>> > > >
> >>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> >>> (145 chars) Success!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure
> >>> looks like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder
> >>> count and path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path
> >>> character count is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145
> >>> characters.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Hope this helps.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Kind regards,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Greg
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > Hi John,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used
> >>> 2.6.x to save to the same location without trouble.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21,
> >>> and was:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
> >>> 8:01AM)
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> >>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the
> >>> file name test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I
> >>> went one folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I
> >>> kept shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save,
> >>> which was as follows:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path
> >>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I
> >>> still get the the same problem.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
> >>>  fails just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > A screen shot of the error
> >>> > > >
> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path
> >>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the
> >>> folder names and no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  However,
> >>> this time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it
> >>> got some of it right.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > A screen shot of that is here:
> >>> > > >
> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Kind regards,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Greg
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with
> >>> 3.5, and please remind me what OS you're using.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Regards,
> >>> > > > John Ralls
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual
> >>> location that I
> >>> > > > > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason
> >>> 3.5 has a
> >>> > > > > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I
> >>> just
> >>> > > > > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask
> >>> for help
> >>> > > > > with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go
> >>> back to
> >>> > > > > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was
> >>> previously saved by
> >>> > > > > 3.5.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Kind regards,
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael <michael at fross.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What
> >>> have you found
> >>> > > > >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> Michael
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >>> Hi,
> >>> > > > >>>
> >>> > > > >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to
> >>> 2.6.21.
> >>> > > > >>>
> >>> > > > >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed
> >>> and saved
> >>> > > > >>> by
> >>> > > > >>> 3.5?
> >>> > > > >>>
> >>> > > > >>> Kind regards,
> >>> > > > >>>
> >>> > > > >>> Greg
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