[GNC] Downgrading to 2.6.21

Greg Feneis mfeneis at gmail.com
Thu Apr 11 07:41:49 EDT 2019


Thanks Colin, I'm not having trouble viewing a path in Windows explorer,
GnuCash is failing to display the correct path in its error dialog.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Galaxy S7)


On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 00:57 Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did you try the suggestion from Jack Lockard earlier in order that you
> can see the real full path to that location?  That might provide a
> clue to what is going on.
>
> Colin
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:07, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Installed 2.6.21 over the 3.5.1, and it was able to save as in the usual
> > location, that 3.5 and 3.5.1 have trouble
> >
> > Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> > (Galaxy S7)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 09:04 Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
> > > GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the
> usual
> > > location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Greg Feneis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't
> ruled
> > >> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
> > >> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards,
> > >>
> > >> Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Greg,
> > >>>
> > >>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier
> > >>> releases in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features
> you
> > >>> use.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker,
> file
> > >>> a bug.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> John Ralls
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Just a coupe of questions,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
> > >>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Kind regards,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Greg Feneis
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> > Hi John,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
> > >>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
> > >>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Kind regards,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Greg Feneis
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> wrote:
> > >>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C &
> D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
> > >>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment?
> Is
> > >>> your userid an Administrator?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Regards,
> > >>> > John Ralls
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > John,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of
> > >>> the Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I
> tried
> > >>> this path and file name:
> > >>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
> > >>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars,
> outside of
> > >>> Dropbox, Failure!)
> > >>> > > The error message reads:
> > >>> > > "You attempted to save in
> > >>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory
> thereof.
> > >>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> > >>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close).
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized
> > >>> you spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and
> file name:
> > >>> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash
> (128
> > >>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
> > >>> within the windows user folder?
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Things are getting curiouser
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Kind regards,¯¯
> > >>> > > Greg
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could
> > >>> you create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
> > >>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I was able to successfully save
> > >>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C &
> D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
> > >>> > > and its log file
> > >>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C &
> D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Regards,
> > >>> > > John Ralls
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a
> shorter
> > >>> path than 2.6.x did:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do
> with
> > >>> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations,
> what
> > >>> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names
> used
> > >>> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with
> length,
> > >>> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52
> chars)
> > >>> Success!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
> > >>> (65 chars) Failure!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles
> down
> > >>> to G and still got the same problem
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54
> chars)
> > >>> Failure!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash
> down
> > >>> to GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the
> character
> > >>> count that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for
> this is
> > >>> slightly different.
> > >>> > > > "You attempted to save in
> > >>> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory
> thereof.
> > >>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
> > >>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close)."  See
> screen
> > >>> shot here
> > >>>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
> > >>> > > > This was the actual attempted path:
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52
> chars)
> > >>> Failure! although same char count
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > More testing:
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)
> > >>> Failure!
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars)
> Failure!
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars)
> Success!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max
> > >>> character count go up?
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars)
> > >>> Success!
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars)
> > >>> Success!
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars)
> > >>> Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
> > >>> > > >
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash
> > >>> (66 chars) Success!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>>
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> > >>> (83 chars) Success!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>>
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> > >>> (100 chars) Success!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>>
> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
> > >>> (145 chars) Success!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it
> sure
> > >>> looks like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on
> folder
> > >>> count and path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path
> > >>> character count is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to
> 145
> > >>> characters.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Hope this helps.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Kind regards,
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Greg
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > Hi John,
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously
> used
> > >>> 2.6.x to save to the same location without trouble.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash
> 2.6.21,
> > >>> and was:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log
> (4/1/2019
> > >>> 8:01AM)
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> > >>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving
> the
> > >>> file name test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same
> error.  So I
> > >>> went one folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same
> way.  I
> > >>> kept shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did
> save,
> > >>> which was as follows:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path
> > >>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand,
> and I
> > >>> still get the the same problem.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
> > >>>  fails just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
> Files\
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > A screen shot of the error
> > >>> > > >
> > >>>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path
> > >>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in
> the
> > >>> folder names and no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.
> However,
> > >>> this time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error
> message, it
> > >>> got some of it right.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > A screen shot of that is here:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Kind regards,
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Greg
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble
> with
> > >>> 3.5, and please remind me what OS you're using.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Regards,
> > >>> > > > John Ralls
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfeneis at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual
> > >>> location that I
> > >>> > > > > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some
> reason
> > >>> 3.5 has a
> > >>> > > > > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with
> 2.6.21, I
> > >>> just
> > >>> > > > > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to
> ask
> > >>> for help
> > >>> > > > > with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just
> go
> > >>> back to
> > >>> > > > > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was
> > >>> previously saved by
> > >>> > > > > 3.5.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Kind regards,
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael <
> michael at fross.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What
> > >>> have you found
> > >>> > > > >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> Michael
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis <
> mfeneis at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >>> Hi,
> > >>> > > > >>>
> > >>> > > > >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading
> to
> > >>> 2.6.21.
> > >>> > > > >>>
> > >>> > > > >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was
> changed
> > >>> and saved
> > >>> > > > >>> by
> > >>> > > > >>> 3.5?
> > >>> > > > >>>
> > >>> > > > >>> Kind regards,
> > >>> > > > >>>
> > >>> > > > >>> Greg
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