[GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"
Christopher Lam
christopher.lck at gmail.com
Tue Feb 19 17:26:19 EST 2019
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On Wed., 20 Feb. 2019, 06:00 refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net wrote:
> Never built gnucash but I am certainly comfortable trying.
>
> Christopher, if I hang around for a while as beta tester for this feature
> set, would you want me to subscribe somewhere else? Apart from gnucash
> user?
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
> autocorrects.
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"
> From: Christopher Lam
> To: refdoc at gmx.net
> CC: "Maf. King" ,GnuCash users group
>
>
> To all interested in beta-testing CSV export, for now I think it's safest
> to export CSV in carefully selected reports, because all reports do tables
> differently.
>
> After version 3.5 is out of the door (in a couple months) I'll provide
> some customized transaction.scm and income-gst-statement.scm which can
> export CSV, and could be finalised for 3.6 due mid-year. The current
> iteration of these reports depend heavily upon the supporting files which
> are undergoing heavy maintenance, and may not work for those using 3.4
> releases. Alternatively anyone comfortable buildling from maint can beta
> test now :)
>
> C
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 19:42, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> I am struggling to.understand at the moment the reporting language,
>> which I understand is a lisp variant. But what I can see from reading
>> the transaction report's source files, is that all logic is very nicely
>> compartmentalized, which makes me wonder if a more general solution
>> would not be to have parallel to the html render output csv output for
>> all reports which rely upon it. This would then allow a much wider use
>> and remove the accusation by another member here on the list that I (or
>> others) want something UK specific.
>> This would also improve in general interoperability on all kinds of
>> levels.
>> Peter
>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
>> autocorrects.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"
>> From: "Maf. King"
>> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org
>> CC:
>>
>> On Sunday, 17 February 2019 12:23:39 GMT Maf. King wrote:
>> > On Sunday, 17 February 2019 11:57:58 GMT Christopher Lam wrote:
>> > > I can amend Income-GST-statement, which is tailor-made for
>> periodic
>> > > GST/VAT returns, to output CSV or XML. But so far there's little
>> demand
>> > > nor willing beta-testers.
>> >
>> > *Raises Hand in the Air* I'll volunteer to test. With the caveat
>> that my
>> > VAT is not normally very complicated.
>> >
>> > The GST report I ran earlier this morning spat out numbers which
>> matched my
>> > last quarter's return (generated from customised options to
>> transaction
>> > reports), which is a good start!
>> >
>> > Maf.
>> Further to this, I've found and downloaded a bridging spreadsheet
>> for
>> LibreOffice (for free, without even having to register an email
>> address) from
>> https://filemyvatreturn.co.uk/download/ (seems to be a "trading
>> name" for CHM
>> software, https://www.chm-software.co.uk/companies where you do have
>> to
>> register to download...)
>> No endorsement or recommendation to use them, I'm not even a
>> satisfied user
>> (yet). Seems that it will cost £7.50 for each VAT return to be
>> filed. But
>> gotta make a start somewhere. If anyone else knows of other options,
>> please
>> do chime into this thread.
>> According to their help file, all you need is a spreadsheet (or
>> sheets) that
>> contain the 7 relevant box totals that you link into the downloaded
>> sheet. It
>> may be possible to tweak it to (automagically) fill from a CSV file,
>> I'll need
>> to look at that next month when I have some more time.
>> I will note that depending on how orderly the exit from the EU ends
>> up, the 7
>> box totals required may change - but we're not going to know how
>> that
>> particular cookie is going to crumble yet...
>> Christopher: what sort of timescale do you think you'll need to
>> tweak the GST
>> report etc to give CSV out? There is a clear workflow to export from
>> GC to
>> Calc and munge the totals there so it isn't especially critical,
>> despite the
>> first digital filings being due early August. But it seems to me
>> that if a new
>> workflow can be figured out in time, why tweak the old way first
>> then change a
>> quarter or two later?
>> I'm pretty busy the rest of this month, but will do more digging
>> into this in
>> March.
>> Maf.
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