[GNC] [GNC-dev] Yahoo blocking GnuCash Email

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Perhaps it's time to look into ways to decouple our mailing list more fully from nabble (which is where the biggest misunderstandings seem to originate with regards to list subscriptions). Gnucash.org shouldn't suffer because of nabble's practices.

David

On September 21, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Dale Alspach <alspachde at gmail.com> wrote:

I suspect that as Adrien indicated many users expect to see an unsubscribe
link at the bottom of the email. The link executes a script which produces
a page with the extracted actual "To:" email address and a "unsubscribe
this address" button. It might be worth exploring whether such a thing has
already been written for mailman lists. Here is a link about one solution
https://mediaserve.com/knowledgebase/93/How-do-I-add-an-unsubscribe-link-to-mailman-mailings.html

Dale

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:07 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:

> That’s a bummer.
>
> It could also be users who can’t read the unsubscribe instructions or
> don’t follow them and then report the list as spam because they still get
> messages after they ‘asked us’ to unsubscribe them.
>
> I turned off the password reminder feature long ago, as I thought it was a
> bad idea to send passwords via e-mail. It probably should be off by
> default. I don’t get such messages for any other site - ever. I don’t
> understand why mailman even offers it. One can always just reset their
> password if they forget it or don’t manage their passwords.
>
> The only other option I can think of to get this info to them would be to
> parse the mailman db for the yahoo addresses and send to them personally. I
> would include that they should preferably re-subscribe with a different
> mail provider as no one knows when Yahoo will unblock the list again.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>
> > On Sep 20, 2019 w38d263, at 12:37 PM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Starting around September 10, Yahoo appears to have started blocking
> > SMTP (email) originating at code.gnucash.org.  This means that yahoo
> > users have been prevented from receiving any mail (including list mail
> > and bug mail), and worse, they've been blocked from sending mail *to*
> > the list as well (due to sender-verify blocking them because yahoo is
> > blocking us).
> >
> > Unfortunately, this appears to be a "due to user complaints" blockage,
> > and Yahoo is pretty tight-lipped about why it actually is blocking.
> > This could be due to people flagging gnucash email as spam (which might
> > include the monthly password reminders), or it could be as stupid as
> > people receiving the email but never reading it.  But like I said, Yahoo
> > won't tell me the source of the blockage.
> >
> > I am hoping this will clear up on it's own.  If not, I might need to
> > literally unsubscribe every yahoo user and then request each person to
> > re-subscribe themselves to the list (once email clears up).
> >
> > I realize that no Yahoo users will actually *see* this email, but I'm
> > hoping they will eventually be able to google for gnucash email yahoo
> > problem or something like that and this email will pop up in a couple
> > days in the archives.  Alternately, email will clean up and the queue
> > will get flushed.
> >
> > If anyone has other ideas, please let me know.
> >
> > -derek
> >
> > --
> >       Derek Atkins                 617-623-3745
> >       derek at ihtfp.com             www.ihtfp.com
> >       Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>
>
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