[GNC] Possible Jump Enhancement

David Carlson david.carlson.417 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 8 18:26:04 EST 2020


I have not looked at customization,  I wanted to stay with pre-defined
shortcuts and wondering why they disappeared in recent GnuCash releases.  I
now see that they just got harder to find.  Having first cut my teeth in
CPM, then dos, I have grown tired of the constant retraining now required
for every incremental release of every program in every OS ad nauseum.

I too prefer using the keyboard over the mouse, but since we all have
different preferences,  it is good to try to make the program efficient for
as many users as possible.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 5:02 PM David H <hellvee at gmail.com> wrote:

> David C,
>
> Have you tried doing anything with ; (gtk_accel_path
> "<Actions>/GncPluginPageRegisterActions/JumpTransactionAction" "") in the
> accelerator-map keyboard shortcuts ?
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 08:51, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> When I posed the Jump enhancement question, I did not mention my own usage
>> or how it might be affected.
>>
>> I find that even though I keep most of my register views in the Auto-split
>> Ledger or Transaction Journal modes I frequently find my focus in the
>> Date,
>> Number, Description or Notes fields of transactions when I want to go to
>> the 'other side' of a transaction to find another transaction in that same
>> account, for example.  I do have a lot of transactions with more than two
>> splits, but more than half have only two splits.  When the focus is in one
>> of those common fields of transactions, it would be fewer clicks to
>> immediately right click and click 'Jump' or navigate the focus to the
>> header and click the 'Jump' button or click "Action" > 'Jump' button to
>> jump to the 'Transfer' account than to navigate the focus to the header
>> and
>> click the 'Split' button if needed, navigate the focus back to the
>> transaction and click a certain split line, then right click and click
>> 'Jump' or navigate the focus to the header and click the 'Jump' button or
>> click "Action" > 'Jump'.
>>
>> Another enhancement would be to create a keystroke shortcut to the 'Jump'
>> function which could save several mouse actions and clicks.  That would be
>> even cooler if the underscores were restored to the menu descriptions.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:33 PM will at theprescotts.com <
>> will at theprescotts.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > If someone is taking a poll, I don't think it is worth the effort
>> either.
>> > But then I mostly use either the split view or auto-split view.
>> >
>> > Will
>> >
>> > On 2020 Dec 8, at 12-08 11:39:36, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just a devil's advocate question, but how is hitting the Jump button to
>> > get a popup to see the splits any different than hitting the Split
>> button
>> > to get the register to expand the transaction to see the splits?
>> >
>> > It's still two mouse-clicks to get to the target account, but without a
>> > popup.
>> >
>> > -derek
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, December 8, 2020 12:25 pm, Edith Murphy wrote:
>> > > Hi David,
>> > >
>> > > I would find that helpful as it would allow the quick jump for a split
>> > > transaction when looking at the basic ledger.  Also a way to see which
>> > > accounts are involved in a split transaction without having to click
>> > > split.  I often want a quick look at info from the auto-split ledger
>> > > without having to switch to it.
>> > >
>> > > Thank you and all the people who work on this program.  I appreciate
>> what
>> > > you do.
>> > >
>> > > Edith
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > edith at mossbrookfiberarts.com
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>> > >
>> > > Class Schedule: mossbrookfiberarts.com/classes
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> On Dec 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, gnucash-user-request at gnucash.org wrote:
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>> > >> Today's Topics:
>> > >>
>> > >>  1.  Possible Suggestion: Give transactions a default 'Jump to'
>> > >>     target account (David Carlson)
>> > >>  2.  Fwd: Re: Possible Suggestion: Give transactions a default
>> > >>     'Jump to' target account (Stan Brown)
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>> > >>
>> > >> Message: 1
>> > >> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 10:18:28 -0600
>> > >> From: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
>> > >> To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>> > >> Subject: [GNC] Possible Suggestion: Give transactions a default 'Jump
>> > >>      to' target account
>> > >> Message-ID:
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>> > >>
>> > >> I am considering proposing an enhancement to GnuCash to provide a
>> > >> default
>> > >> 'Jump to' target action. If there are only two split lines in the
>> > >> transaction, it would be the transfer account.  In complex
>> transactions
>> > >> there would be a pop-up giving a list of the accounts in the
>> transaction
>> > >> and asking which account to 'Jump to'.  This action would be
>> overridden
>> > >> by
>> > >> the current 'Jump to' destination when the focus is in a split line.
>> > >>
>> > >> The primary purpose of this proposal would be to define a 'Jump to'
>> > >> destination that is invocable from the base fields of the transaction
>> > >> which
>> > >> are often the only fields visible when the account register display
>> is
>> > >> set
>> > >> to 'Basic Ledger'.
>> > >>
>> > >> Before I make the proposal, I would like comments on whether this is
>> > >> worth
>> > >> pursuing.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> David Carlson
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >> Message: 2
>> > >> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 08:36:35 -0800
>> > >> From: Stan Brown <the_stan_brown at fastmail.fm>
>> > >> To: GnuCash User List <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
>> > >> Subject: [GNC] Fwd: Re: Possible Suggestion: Give transactions a
>> > >>      default 'Jump to' target account
>> > >> Message-ID: <40380037-868b-e813-2f7f-210b51592bf2 at fastmail.fm>
>> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> > >>
>> > >> Apologies -- I clicked "reply" instead of "reply List".
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Since you asked for opinions --
>> > >>
>> > >> Speaking for myself only, I just click Split in the top row of icons,
>> > >> then click on the account I want in the expanded transaction and
>> Jump. I
>> > >> don't think the pop-up would help me in my workflow.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Stan Brown
>> > >> Tehachapi, CA, USA
>> > >> https://BrownMath.com
>> > >> https://OakRoadSystems.com
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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