[GNC] v3.8 AQBanking in the US

Derek Robinson derek.robinson at ymail.com
Sat Jan 4 13:20:25 EST 2020


 All - the development you're talking about is beyond me, but I'm happy to help with testing or anything else that needs an extra set of hands. A couple of things.
- I assume you're in touch with Martin Preuss already, but if not, the README for aqbanking 6 points out a list of changes that consuming applications must consider. It's at https://github.com/aqbanking/aqbanking/blob/master/README. See section 11.
- The non-editable user problem that John Ralls noted seems to be because the backend type gets set to HBCI even when you set it to ofxconnect. This can be fixed by modifying aqbanking\settings6\users\<id>.conf (change backendName to aqofxconnect).
- At least for my bank (USAA) account retrieval only works if there is at least one "dummy" account in the list of online accounts.
- I have user setup, account retrieval, and balance retrieval working. Transactions are retrieved and visible in the OFX log but don't show up in the GC transaction matcher. If there is a piece of GC code that returns a single transaction with date=0, amount=0 and description="Unspecified" when a crawl through the retrieved transactions returns nothing, that's a good place to start.
All best and let me know how I can help!
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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  v3.8 AQBanking in the US (John Ralls)
  2. Re:  v3.8 AQBanking in the US (Kenneth Schneider)
  3. Re:  GnuCash/AqBanking headaches (chris graves)
  4. Re:  v3.8: Budget "total" field (chris graves)
  5. Re:  GnuCash/AqBanking headaches (John Ralls)
  6. Re:  Default Invoice Config (Axel Essbaum)
  7.  Import failing - cannot get debug file (Bennie Gibson)
  8. Re:  Chaning left sidebar spacing (William Marshall)
  9. Re:  Chaning left sidebar spacing (William Marshall)
  10. Re:  Chaning left sidebar spacing (William Marshall)
No. OFX Direct Connect is a way of connecting GnuCash directly to the bank and retrieving the account, balance, and transaction data directly into GnuCash. 

In addition to a working AQBanking it requires that your bank provide the service and that it reveals enough information that you can configure AQBanking to connect to it.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 8:56 AM, David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is OFX Direct Connect linked to simple OFX or QFX downloads that are provided by many US banks as one of the three ways that data can be funneled through Intuit Software, hopefully to GnuCash instead of Quicken?
> 
> In other words, has Intuit found a way to kill OFX as an open source tool?
> 
> David Carlson
> 
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:43 AM John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 AM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
> > 
> > John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> writes:
> > 
> >> I don't know how much of that's fixable from GnuCash. Martin said last
> >> week that he's suspended development of OFX so anything that isn't is
> >> presumably broken forever.
> > 
> > Did he give a reason for suspending OFX development?
> 
> Yes: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088350.html
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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I have volunteered to help Martin as best I can.

I’m retired, getting old and not in the best of health but hopefully can be of some assistance. I’ve been working with Linux in one flavor or another for over 25 years and would like to give back to the community in some way. If anyone else can also help I’m sure it would be appreciated.

Ken Schneider 

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:36 AM, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 AM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
>> 
>> John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> writes:
>> 
>>> I don't know how much of that's fixable from GnuCash. Martin said last
>>> week that he's suspended development of OFX so anything that isn't is
>>> presumably broken forever.
>> 
>> Did he give a reason for suspending OFX development?
> 
> Yes: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-December/088350.html
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Hi Martin,

I would be happy to help relieve the GnuCash/AqBanking headaches (currently in 3.8, not working for me).  I have access to an OFX DC server and am quite familiar with the Linux console.

Chris

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 3:14 AM, Martin Preuss <martin at aqbanking.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> just a general note on AqBanbkings OFX DirectConnect plugin:
> 
> Development on this plugin is pretty much on hold right now, because I
> don't have access to any OFX server. Also, getting information on client
> setup for OFX - especially regarding connection details such as server
> url, protocol version etc - is becoming increasingly difficult. I even
> don't know whether the current OFX version 2 is already supported by
> every OFX DC capable bank.
> 
> With previous versions of AqBanking one or two Gnucash users helped with
> debugging and testing, but currently that isn't the case.
> 
> Until someone with access to an OFX DC server and with some experience
> working on the Linux console willing to help shows up development of
> this plugin is more or less suspended.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Martin
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I'd opt for the switch user method, with sharing files to the main users public folder as John mentioned, as there is very little if any chance of messing up the production GC file/settings/AqBanking.


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:30 PM, John Ralls <jralls at ceridwen.us> wrote:
> 
> Switching users isn't onerous as long as you use simple passwords--you do have to type it every time you switch--and it's easy to create a folder in your main user's $HOME to collect stuff:
> https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/control-access-to-your-public-folder-on-mac-mchlp1775/mac.
> 
> If that's still too much trouble you can set GNC_DATA_DIR and GNC_CONFIG_DIR in the non-production bundle's Contents/Resources/etc/gnucash/environment to point somewhere other than ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash. Preferences go to ~/Library/Preferences/org.gnucash.Gnucash no matter what, but that's probably not a concern in most cases.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m considering that approach, but that would mean switching users just for testing. I suppose I could set up some sort of common folder to save screen shots and crash reports as I don’t want to have activity in the test user not be available to me in my main account. If Mac had some sort of container system like linux or if I could easily run it in a VM (without a large GB virtual disk) I’d prefer that route but that doesn’t seem possible right now.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020 w1d3, at 4:04 AM, Michael Hendry <hendry.michael at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 3 Jan 2020, at 01:35, Adrien Monteleone via gnucash-user <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I thought that was discussed, but delving into the bug threads and others linked therein, I see the issue a bit more clearly.
>>>> 
>>>> Certainly, I think the current underlying approach is the more sane one long term with a few kinks to be worked out.
>>>> 
>>>> I (sadly and apologetically) still haven’t worked out a way to test dev versions on MacOS without disrupting my normal installation, but I can test non-OS specific changes via VMs. (I can certainly build maint or other branches in Ubuntu) If anyone has any suggestions or tips for testing maint and other builds on the MacOS front *without disturbing my normal stable installation* , they are certainly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> I haven’t tried this, but why not create a new user (e.g. “GCTest”) and run any experimental versions as that user. This would protect your own .gnucash files and configuration settings, as these are per-user, not per-computer.
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m getting ready next week to work on my 2020 budgets, so now would be a good time to do some testing.
>>>> 
>>>> Let me know what types of things you’d like to see answers to and I’ll do what I can. (in a Linux version for now, as noted)
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Adrien
>> 
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> On Dec 18, 2019, at 8:15 AM, brakechute <brakechute at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all.  Been searching the list but couldn't find this issue so I may
> have broken things in a new way. :)
> 
> I have been using GnuCash 3.7 on a Windows 7 system (yeah, Windows) and have
> just been importing transactions from CSV up to now.  This is a clunky
> process as the files from my banks need to be edited in Calc before I can
> successfully import them.  I decided to try the online banking feature and
> failed miserably. I have tried to follow the guidelines in the wiki but must
> be missing something, hopefully someone familiar with this can point it out.
> 
> So, I start the wizard and "create user", select the "OFX DirectConnect",
> find the bank in the list. I put in my name, the user name at the bank, and
> have tried both leaving the UUID blank and inserting a generic one.  I have
> tried multiple emulations and get the same result every time:
>  Retrieving SSL certificate
>  Connecting to server...
>  Using GnuTLS default ciphers.
> And at this point GnuCash crashes out.
> 
> I have tried running as a user and running privileged with the same result. 
> When I restart and go back to the wizard a new user is in the list, but
> cannot be deleted (Error deleting user -109).  I just can't get anything to
> set up.  Anyone have any thoughts?  Thanks in advance.

I doubt that running as an admin would make a difference.

Make sure that you're really using 3.7 or earlier for OFX Direct Connect.

Go to https://ofxhome.com and look up your bank. At the bottom of the record make sure that it has validated within the last week or two: If it hasn't the publicly available OFX setup information is at best stale, but more likely they no longer support OFX Direct Connect or have adopted new software that will only talk to Quicken. Some of the banks in that last category have adopted software that doesn't actually use OFX Direct Connect: One bank with which I do business has a note on their website saying that the file exchange format is the Intuit-proprietary QDF. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that a stream of that would crash AQBanking and take GnuCash out with it.

Does your bank offer OFX, QFX, or QIF downloads?

Regards,
John Ralls




Hi Adrien,

Blanking the invoice selection in General just gives me a blank page instead of the old Invoice #001.

And I ask again, where in a style sheet can I add my own CSS?  There is a way to do this in a configuration, but a configuration apparently now only applies to a single invoice (can't be re-applied to other invoices).

Thanks,

- Axel

—
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> On 3 Jan 2020, at 19:41, Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
> Edit > Style Sheets
> 
> ‘default' is the simplest and least customizable.
> 
> 'Head or Tail' is the one with the most options.
> 
> All but ‘default’ allow you to have footer info and a logo.
> 
> That style sheet would allow you complete control, but of course you’d need to view the report/invoice in html code to see the various nodes to write rules for.
> 
> The column choices can be done in CSS or you can use the report options. The report options also have a css field in the Layout tab.
> 
> I think your saved config though was stuck on that one invoice because it was in the invoice selection field in the General tab.
> 
> Try blanking that field and then re-save the configuration to see if that does the trick.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020 w1d3, at 11:55 AM, Axel Essbaum <axel at essbaum.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Adrien
>> 
>> Thanks for the reply.  I see no way to add CSS or control which columns are printed in a stylesheet.  Can you describe in more detail or send a screenshot?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> - Axel
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Hi All,

I am trying to move from quicken to gnucash and have had mixed results 
with importing qif files from quicklen.  I've been able to isolate a 
couple of causes of import failures by trial and error exclusion of 
specific items but it appears I have several failures to deal with and 
no messages to indicate the cause.  I tried starting gnucash with 
--debug --logto="c:\gnucash.log"    it appears gnucash is recognizing 
the debug command as it takes longer to start but I'm not seeing any log 
or trace file created. I've also tried leaving out the logto command and 
letting gnucash create a default file but cannot locate that either.   
I've looked in AppData\Local\Temp and found no new files.

Any suggestions appreciated.  I feel like I'm close but with several 
years of data, I need something to assist me me excluding the items 
causing import failure.

Thank you



No.  I can’t seem to find a way to make a change in ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css that impacts the sidebar.  I did find in the discussion and in other places how to set the padding around the menubar icons and text, and I see discussion in various places about changing the sidebar, but none of the changes I attempt have any impact.

I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.

Bill


> On Jan 1, 2020, at 6:45 PM, D <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> William,
> 
> Did the discussion on css styling not work for you?
> 
> David T.
> 
> On January 2, 2020, at 4:05 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I see what you mean.  On Ubuntu with Waterfox browser they are much tighter
> packed (gnucash 3.6).
> 
> Colin
> 
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 17:00, William Marshall <marshalliv at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Colin,
>> 
>> I can’t do a conventional capture, since I need things highlighted by
>> selection and mouse activity to show what I mean, but here’s a photo from
>> me phone of what I'm talking about.  Notice first that “USAA Sav” is
>> selected and see how high the top and bottom boundary are for that
>> selection.  Then notice that my mouse is hovering over “USAA Visa” and see
>> that it has the same excessive (to my eye) top and bottom boundaries.
>> ALSO, notice that there is a separator between the two.  I’d really like to
>> scrunch everything together like it used to be.
>> 
>> I really appreciate any help you can provide.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
>> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure
>> it’s already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t
>> provided me any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar
>> that lists the accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way
>> spread out vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m
>> currently using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Bill Marshall
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HI David,

I forgot to clarify that the file I referenced DOES impact the appearance.  I just can’t seem to get anything to change the sidebar in any way.

Bill


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:28 AM, D <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh. Ok. I'm sorry it's not working for you; I'm pretty sure that, prior to my leaving the Apple world, I was able to change the appearance of Gnucash by following the css styling instructions. That included the tab height. Unfortunately, for this discussion, I no longer have my Mac to look at the configuration to guide you further.
> 
> For testing, you might try applying a basic broad css style (like changing the base font face) to see whether you can get any css to take. Once you get that working, add the tab height settings to the file and see the results. A lot of this requires just the right file name in just the right location with just the right formatting; get any of our setting, and none of it works.
> 
> Best of luck,
> David T.
> 
> On January 3, 2020, at 7:41 PM, William Marshall <marshalliv at me.com> wrote:
> 
> No.  I can’t seem to find a way to make a change in ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css that impacts the sidebar.  I did find in the discussion and in other places how to set the padding around the menubar icons and text, and I see discussion in various places about changing the sidebar, but none of the changes I attempt have any impact.
> 
> I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2020, at 6:45 PM, D <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> William,
>> 
>> Did the discussion on css styling not work for you?
>> 
>> David T.
>> 
>> On January 2, 2020, at 4:05 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I see what you mean.  On Ubuntu with Waterfox browser they are much tighter
>> packed (gnucash 3.6).
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 17:00, William Marshall <marshalliv at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Colin,
>>> 
>>> I can’t do a conventional capture, since I need things highlighted by
>>> selection and mouse activity to show what I mean, but here’s a photo from
>>> me phone of what I'm talking about.  Notice first that “USAA Sav” is
>>> selected and see how high the top and bottom boundary are for that
>>> selection.  Then notice that my mouse is hovering over “USAA Visa” and see
>>> that it has the same excessive (to my eye) top and bottom boundaries.
>>> ALSO, notice that there is a separator between the two.  I’d really like to
>>> scrunch everything together like it used to be.
>>> 
>>> I really appreciate any help you can provide.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
>>> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure
>>> it’s already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t
>>> provided me any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar
>>> that lists the accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way
>>> spread out vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m
>>> currently using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Bill Marshall
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Let me add that I’m not running the latest Mac OS version; I’m running 10.13.6.  I’m behind because with each SW change, Apple giveth and Apple taketh away; os I’m typically slow to change because of what goes away.

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else confirmed whether they are seeing this issue, and if
> so on what OS.  Certainly with 3.6 on Ubuntu 19.10 my tabs are
> noticeably more packed.
> 
> Colin
> 
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 14:11, William Marshall <marshalliv at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No.  I can’t seem to find a way to make a change in ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css that impacts the sidebar.  I did find in the discussion and in other places how to set the padding around the menubar icons and text, and I see discussion in various places about changing the sidebar, but none of the changes I attempt have any impact.
>> 
>> I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2020, at 6:45 PM, D <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> William,
>>> 
>>> Did the discussion on css styling not work for you?
>>> 
>>> David T.
>>> 
>>> On January 2, 2020, at 4:05 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see what you mean.  On Ubuntu with Waterfox browser they are much tighter
>>> packed (gnucash 3.6).
>>> 
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 17:00, William Marshall <marshalliv at me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Colin,
>>>> 
>>>> I can’t do a conventional capture, since I need things highlighted by
>>>> selection and mouse activity to show what I mean, but here’s a photo from
>>>> me phone of what I'm talking about.  Notice first that “USAA Sav” is
>>>> selected and see how high the top and bottom boundary are for that
>>>> selection.  Then notice that my mouse is hovering over “USAA Visa” and see
>>>> that it has the same excessive (to my eye) top and bottom boundaries.
>>>> ALSO, notice that there is a separator between the two.  I’d really like to
>>>> scrunch everything together like it used to be.
>>>> 
>>>> I really appreciate any help you can provide.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can you post a screenshot showing exactly what you mean?
>>>> 
>>>> Colin
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 00:55, William Marshall via gnucash-user
>>>> <gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t know if this is the right pace to ask this or not, and I’m sure
>>>> it’s already been asked many times, but Googling for solutions hasn’t
>>>> provided me any relief.  How do I reduce the spacing on the left sidebar
>>>> that lists the accounts and reports that I’ve opened?  Right now, they way
>>>> spread out vertically, which happened when I switched to GnuCash 3.X.  I’m
>>>> currently using GnuCash for Mac version 3.7, Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07).
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Bill Marshall
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