[GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?

jean laroche ripngo at gmail.com
Sun Jul 12 18:15:15 EDT 2020


The thing is, there's a good chance we won't know if somebody uses the 
feature and happens to not be on this forum, which is very likely.
So out of caution, I would err on the side of keeping it. The code bloat 
isn't enormous. In my PR I removed a bit of it, and simplified things a bit.
I know that as a user, I really dislike when features disappear... (if I 
happen to use them).
I think the onus is on us to justify why it's really bad to keep the 
feature.

Jean
P.S. Nobody's suggesting to remove reconciling! I think it was a 
misunderstanding from the start!


On 7/12/2020 3:02 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> Larry,
>
> Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to turn our users into more product for survey monkey. Besides, I'm not looking for votes, I'm looking for reasons why removing the dialogs might be a bad thing. A single person with a persuasive reason would outweigh all of the "don't cares".
>
> To your points: A Scheduled Transaction is an even better reminder and quick fill (aka autocomplete) in the register will fill in the last payment account too. What quickfill won't do is pre-populate the credit field with the reconciled balance.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Larry Long <llong47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I rarely ever use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the "interest earned" pop-up associated with bank accounts.
>> I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before I begin checking-off transactions in the reconcile window.Similarly, I use (and appreciate) the "payment transaction" pop-up window associated with credit card accounts.  The fact that it remembers and prepopulates my usual source account for the payment is also a handy convenience for me.
>> Could I do without these two features?  Certainly.
>> Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me?  Yes.Compelling reasons?  While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any.
>> If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list is the best method.
>> I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, create your questions there and post a link on this list.  It will accumulate the results for you and is much less effort than trying to track responses here.
>> I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below.  However, if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be better for you to do it.
>> Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all the effort that you folks put into the software--and in answering questions on this list!
>> Regards,Larry Long
>>
>>
>>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole
>>> interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that so is the payment
>>> transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of
>>> program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment
>>> transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the register before and after
>>> reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction.
>>> But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I want to get that out
>>> of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups
>>> and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have
>>> for objecting?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>
>>
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