[GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?

nvsoar nvsoar at charter.net
Sun Jul 12 18:35:46 EDT 2020


FWIW - For me the pop ups are confusing.  I delete and hope it works out.
A million thanks for a great application.
All the best from the Carson Valley,
nvsoar

On 07/12/20 15:15, jean laroche wrote:
> The thing is, there's a good chance we won't know if somebody uses the 
> feature and happens to not be on this forum, which is very likely.
> So out of caution, I would err on the side of keeping it. The code 
> bloat isn't enormous. In my PR I removed a bit of it, and simplified 
> things a bit.
> I know that as a user, I really dislike when features disappear... (if 
> I happen to use them).
> I think the onus is on us to justify why it's really bad to keep the 
> feature.
>
> Jean
> P.S. Nobody's suggesting to remove reconciling! I think it was a 
> misunderstanding from the start!
>
>
> On 7/12/2020 3:02 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>> Larry,
>>
>> Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to turn our users into more 
>> product for survey monkey. Besides, I'm not looking for votes, I'm 
>> looking for reasons why removing the dialogs might be a bad thing. A 
>> single person with a persuasive reason would outweigh all of the 
>> "don't cares".
>>
>> To your points: A Scheduled Transaction is an even better reminder 
>> and quick fill (aka autocomplete) in the register will fill in the 
>> last payment account too. What quickfill won't do is pre-populate the 
>> credit field with the reconciled balance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Larry Long <llong47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I 
>>> rarely ever use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the 
>>> "interest earned" pop-up associated with bank accounts.
>>> I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before I 
>>> begin checking-off transactions in the reconcile window.Similarly, I 
>>> use (and appreciate) the "payment transaction" pop-up window 
>>> associated with credit card accounts.  The fact that it remembers 
>>> and prepopulates my usual source account for the payment is also a 
>>> handy convenience for me.
>>> Could I do without these two features?  Certainly.
>>> Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me?  Yes.Compelling 
>>> reasons?  While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any.
>>> If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list 
>>> is the best method.
>>> I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, 
>>> create your questions there and post a link on this list.  It will 
>>> accumulate the results for you and is much less effort than trying 
>>> to track responses here.
>>> I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below.  
>>> However, if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be 
>>> better for you to do it.
>>> Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all the 
>>> effort that you folks put into the software--and in answering 
>>> questions on this list!
>>> Regards,Larry Long
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have 
>>>> both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that 
>>>> the whole
>>>> interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to 
>>>> that opinion that so is the payment
>>>> transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a 
>>>> credit card account. It's a lot of
>>>> program complexity that relieves the user of very little work 
>>>> indeed: Those interest and payment
>>>> transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in 
>>>> the register before and after
>>>> reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious 
>>>> candidate for a scheduled transaction.
>>>> But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated 
>>>> disagreement. I want to get that out
>>>> of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and 
>>>> payment transfer automatic popups
>>>> and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and 
>>>> what compelling reason do you have
>>>> for objecting?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>
>>>
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