[GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?

[jean laroche]

Note that with the PR:
- There no longer a global pref for popping the interest transfer dialog 
prior to reconcile.
- There's a new per-account pref for this ^^ . Set to False by default
- In the reconcile window, there's still the button to open the interest 
transfer dialog
- In the interest transfer dialog, a button was removed (that was 
changing the preference).

So with the PR the interest transfer dialog should not pop up for you if 
it didn't before. If it does, the user has to go turn the preference off 
in the account edit dialog.

Jean


On 7/12/2020 3:35 PM, nvsoar wrote:
> FWIW - For me the pop ups are confusing.  I delete and hope it works out.
> A million thanks for a great application.
> All the best from the Carson Valley,
> nvsoar
>
> On 07/12/20 15:15, jean laroche wrote:
>> The thing is, there's a good chance we won't know if somebody uses 
>> the feature and happens to not be on this forum, which is very likely.
>> So out of caution, I would err on the side of keeping it. The code 
>> bloat isn't enormous. In my PR I removed a bit of it, and simplified 
>> things a bit.
>> I know that as a user, I really dislike when features disappear... 
>> (if I happen to use them).
>> I think the onus is on us to justify why it's really bad to keep the 
>> feature.
>>
>> Jean
>> P.S. Nobody's suggesting to remove reconciling! I think it was a 
>> misunderstanding from the start!
>>
>>
>> On 7/12/2020 3:02 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to turn our users into 
>>> more product for survey monkey. Besides, I'm not looking for votes, 
>>> I'm looking for reasons why removing the dialogs might be a bad 
>>> thing. A single person with a persuasive reason would outweigh all 
>>> of the "don't cares".
>>>
>>> To your points: A Scheduled Transaction is an even better reminder 
>>> and quick fill (aka autocomplete) in the register will fill in the 
>>> last payment account too. What quickfill won't do is pre-populate 
>>> the credit field with the reconciled balance.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>>
>>>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Larry Long <llong47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I 
>>>> rarely ever use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the 
>>>> "interest earned" pop-up associated with bank accounts.
>>>> I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before 
>>>> I begin checking-off transactions in the reconcile 
>>>> window.Similarly, I use (and appreciate) the "payment transaction" 
>>>> pop-up window associated with credit card accounts.  The fact that 
>>>> it remembers and prepopulates my usual source account for the 
>>>> payment is also a handy convenience for me.
>>>> Could I do without these two features?  Certainly.
>>>> Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me? Yes.Compelling 
>>>> reasons?  While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any.
>>>> If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list 
>>>> is the best method.
>>>> I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, 
>>>> create your questions there and post a link on this list.  It will 
>>>> accumulate the results for you and is much less effort than trying 
>>>> to track responses here.
>>>> I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below.  
>>>> However, if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be 
>>>> better for you to do it.
>>>> Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all 
>>>> the effort that you folks put into the software--and in answering 
>>>> questions on this list!
>>>> Regards,Larry Long
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have 
>>>>> both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 
>>>>> that the whole
>>>>> interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add 
>>>>> to that opinion that so is the payment
>>>>> transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a 
>>>>> credit card account. It's a lot of
>>>>> program complexity that relieves the user of very little work 
>>>>> indeed: Those interest and payment
>>>>> transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in 
>>>>> the register before and after
>>>>> reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious 
>>>>> candidate for a scheduled transaction.
>>>>> But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated 
>>>>> disagreement. I want to get that out
>>>>> of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and 
>>>>> payment transfer automatic popups
>>>>> and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and 
>>>>> what compelling reason do you have
>>>>> for objecting?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>
>>>>
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