[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 215, Issue 26

E. Nick Henery enhenery at gmail.com
Thu Feb 11 12:53:14 EST 2021


To all of you that responded.  Thanks and your time and instructions are most appreciated.  Stay safe and Healthy.  Nick

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>   1. Re:  Non-Scheduled Transaction ??? (Adrien Monteleone)
>   2. Re:  Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Report (doncram)
>   3. Re:  Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Report (Adrien Monteleone)
>   4. Re:  Non-Scheduled Transaction ??? (David Carlson)
>   5. Re:  Transaction Report Question (Gareth Davies)
>   6. Re:  Filtering reports on contents of Memo field (Michael Hendry)
>   7. Re:  Transaction Report Question (gareth.davies.1 at ntlworld.com)
>   8. Re:  flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly (Geert Janssens)
>   9.  FOLLOW-UP Re: Credit Card payment pop-up doesn't appear on
>      *some* credit card accounts after reconcile (Robert Stocker)
>  10. Re:  flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly (Elmar)
>  11. Re:  flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly (Geert Janssens)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 21:13:40 -0600
> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Non-Scheduled Transaction ???
> Message-ID: <s027d4$eqe$1 at ciao.gmane.io>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> That indeed appears confusing.
> 
> I'm going to hazard a guess that it means there are none for you to 
> review prior to creation, absent auto-creation.
> 
> (do a test SX, set to not auto-create, then run the dialog. It should 
> show it to you as 'to create')
> 
> Perhaps it should read, "There are no Scheduled Transactions to be 
> manually entered at this time. (one transaction automatically created)"
> 
> That would likely get fixed in the next release if you file a bug on it. 
> It seems just a matter of wording.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 2/10/21 8:54 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
>> I'm still on Version: 3.10 Build ID: 3.10+(2020-04-11) on Ubuntu 20.10.
>> 
>> Did not go looking for the thread in which this was mentioned.
>> 
>> This evening when I popped GnC open, it reported:? "There are no 
>> Scheduled Transactions to be entered at this time.? (One transaction 
>> automatically created)."
>> Screen
>> Was only given the option to Close the information window.? I did check 
>> the general journal and a scheduled transaction for 15 days out was 
>> created.? I checked that scheduled transaction and it was set to be 
>> created 15 days out (which would have been today).
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 21:57:53 -0700
> From: doncram <doncram at gmail.com>
> To: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> Cc: GnuCash List <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Report
> Message-ID:
> 	<CA+_67DO5C1nobpJ5xXnVkHEcE5fiTZZvQhceVo3Xzs_QPtv4vg at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> "GnuCash does have a Cash Flow report, but it is more general...."  *No,
> GnuCash does not have anything like the normal Statement of Cash Flows*
> expected by financial statements users.  A statement of cash flows is
> supposed to identify sources and uses of what would otherwise be "cash"
> (liquid funds) during a given period.  Operations, vs. Financing, vs.
> Investing.  So that a potential investor or lendor or whomever could
> understand better what is going on with the firm.  With a standard type of
> report that would show, in the Operations area, how much went into building
> inventory, or reducing accounts payable, or allowing accounts receivable to
> increase (presumably to support sales revenues).  Or how much "cash" was
> derived from reducing inventory (selling down stock without replacing it),
> increasing accounts payable (causing future problems), or forcing an
> increase in collections from customers (driving down sales), for example.
> What GnuCash offers is something total different, which I don't see as
> useful for any financial statement users that I know, which is a report on
> totals of transactions in vs. out of any group of balance sheet accounts
> (so I think one could get it to report on total $ inflows and outflows out
> of a group.
> 
> But, it simply doesn't capture many (most?) transactions that matter.
> Suppose the firm acquired $100k amount of inventory by a new line of credit
> with a supplier.  That should show as $100k usage of cash in operations,
> and $100k source of cash in financing.  Which GnuCash simply won't show;  I
> don't know what GnuCash's report would be useful for at all.
> 
> I think it would be fairly simple for GnuCash to be adapted to provide
> normal Statement of Cash Flows reporting, but it simply does not do that.
> Calling what GnuCash does as "more general" is misleading.
> 
> Hope this helps
> Don Cram
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:38 AM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
>> You are in the right place.
>> 
>> Let's take these in order:
>> 
>> #1 Categories/Accounts
>> 
>> GnuCash uses Accounts, not Categories, but you can think of them as
>> roughly equivalent for what you are likely using them for in CheckBook Pro.
>> 
>> #2 QIF Import
>> 
>> I don't use this import myself, but I *think* if you don't have an
>> account created, you either get the option to, or it is done for you.
>> Perhaps someone who regularly uses QIF can shed more light.
>> 
>> I'd advise that the import will probably go a bit smoother if you create
>> your Accounts when you first set up your GnuCash book. (if you miss a
>> few no big deal, but try to get that done first if you can)
>> 
>> #3 Balance Sheet
>> 
>> Yes, you can produce a Balance Sheet report. This report is not for a
>> date range, but as a snapshot in time. (this is not particular to
>> GnuCash, this is part of the definition of Balance Sheet) But you
>> certainly can produce a Balance Sheet for every month if you like. (that
>> is, different reports as of the last day of each month) There is also an
>> experimental Multi-Column Balance Sheet report that may be useful but it
>> is not presently 'comparative' with variance columns, but you can always
>> export any report to a spreadsheet and make your own modifications.
>> 
>> #4 Cash Flow
>> 
>> GnuCash does have a Cash Flow report, but it is more general than most
>> are used to (maybe more accurately titled 'Asset Flow') and is not
>> predictive without some extra work. It does report over a date range,
>> but for the entire range, not by period. (you'd need to run reports for
>> separate periods)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>> On 2/10/21 12:20 PM, E. Nick Henery wrote:
>>> Team
>>> I am new at this, so please bare with me as I learn the correct process.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure If this the place to ask these questions.  If not would
>> you please direct me to the right location?
>>> 
>>> I use an iMac and I use CheckBook Pro from the Apple Store to do my
>> accounting for personal and a small business.
>>> 
>>> I can export a QIF file from CheckBook Pro.  My question is:  If I
>> import the QIF file from CheckBook Pro into GNUCash, will GNUCash set up
>> the account in GNUCash and use the categories I have used in CheckBook Pro?
>>> 
>>> Apple Support directed me to look at GNUCash, and it looks like it will
>> do what I need.  That is; if the import of the QIF file into GNUCash is
>> successful, can I produce a Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Report by month
>> over a set period (Yearly)?
>>> 
>>> If I am in the wrong place to ask these questions; I apologize for any
>> inconvenience I cause.  Thanks Nick
>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 23:12:52 -0600
> From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Report
> Message-ID: <s02ecl$1244$1 at ciao.gmane.io>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> I *never* said it has a 'Statement of Cash Flows' report. Please re-read 
> my post.
> 
> I'm the one who filed the bug on that point.
> 
> I had proposed in that bug, what I thought, was a reasonable suggestion 
> to accomplish one, but the devs see it otherwise. (I'm not the one doing 
> the coding, so I'm certainly not going to press the point)
> 
> A "Statement of Cash Flows" appears to be out-of-scope for GnuCash as it 
> is likely required by firms that in all probability would not be using 
> GnuCash, and instead, be using a proprietary high-end or custom package. 
> GnuCash is not targeted or designed for such firms.
> 
> The report that GnuCash does include is certainly poorly named. (this 
> has been discussed before, in that bug report if I recall, but no action 
> has been taken to clean it up)
> 
> It can be used to show movement or 'flows' from or into one or more 
> accounts and the source or destination of those flows. I don't care for 
> the default options much, but with some careful crafting and selection 
> of accounts, one can indeed see a personal 'cash flow' report.
> 
> As I mentioned though, without additional gymnastics, what so many other 
> packages provide: a view of change in cash over time by period, is not 
> available. (at least not by the 'Cash Flow' name. With careful planning, 
> the 'Budget Flow' might get you close)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 2/10/21 10:57 PM, doncram wrote:
>> "GnuCash does have a Cash Flow report, but it is more general...."  *No,
>> GnuCash does not have anything like the normal Statement of Cash Flows*
>> expected by financial statements users.  A statement of cash flows is
>> supposed to identify sources and uses of what would otherwise be "cash"
>> (liquid funds) during a given period.  Operations, vs. Financing, vs.
>> Investing.  So that a potential investor or lendor or whomever could
>> understand better what is going on with the firm.  With a standard type of
>> report that would show, in the Operations area, how much went into building
>> inventory, or reducing accounts payable, or allowing accounts receivable to
>> increase (presumably to support sales revenues).  Or how much "cash" was
>> derived from reducing inventory (selling down stock without replacing it),
>> increasing accounts payable (causing future problems), or forcing an
>> increase in collections from customers (driving down sales), for example.
>> What GnuCash offers is something total different, which I don't see as
>> useful for any financial statement users that I know, which is a report on
>> totals of transactions in vs. out of any group of balance sheet accounts
>> (so I think one could get it to report on total $ inflows and outflows out
>> of a group.
>> 
>> But, it simply doesn't capture many (most?) transactions that matter.
>> Suppose the firm acquired $100k amount of inventory by a new line of credit
>> with a supplier.  That should show as $100k usage of cash in operations,
>> and $100k source of cash in financing.  Which GnuCash simply won't show;  I
>> don't know what GnuCash's report would be useful for at all.
>> 
>> I think it would be fairly simple for GnuCash to be adapted to provide
>> normal Statement of Cash Flows reporting, but it simply does not do that.
>> Calling what GnuCash does as "more general" is misleading.
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> Don Cram
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 00:30:20 -0600
> From: David Carlson <david.carlson.417 at gmail.com>
> To: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>
> Cc: GnuCash List <gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Non-Scheduled Transaction ???
> Message-ID:
> 	<CADYgSbkTmaHfZF76Vy2+3ZeOyS7-+7j68TYhB8zXxR3tbp1x0g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> So that is the pop-up that announces that some scheduled transaction(s)
> were created.  I have never seen that in my case, but I always use the
> Review Created transactions check box in the SLR assistant and the remind
> in advance option in the SX editor except for a few that are not created in
> advance.  In Stephen Butler's case he found the created transaction in it's
> home register.  There is still a mystery about transactions that seem to
> have been created in advance for a couple of users but not appeared in
> their proper register views
> 
> Tonight, in my release 3.8 in Ubuntu Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29), I looked
> at the Help manual and found that it failed to describe how the edit SX
> options affected the SLR assistant behavior, particularly the notify me
> when created check box.  Tomorrow I hope to create some test SX's to see
> how those work.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 9:14 PM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
>> That indeed appears confusing.
>> 
>> I'm going to hazard a guess that it means there are none for you to
>> review prior to creation, absent auto-creation.
>> 
>> (do a test SX, set to not auto-create, then run the dialog. It should
>> show it to you as 'to create')
>> 
>> Perhaps it should read, "There are no Scheduled Transactions to be
>> manually entered at this time. (one transaction automatically created)"
>> 
>> That would likely get fixed in the next release if you file a bug on it.
>> It seems just a matter of wording.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>> On 2/10/21 8:54 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
>>> I'm still on Version: 3.10 Build ID: 3.10+(2020-04-11) on Ubuntu 20.10.
>>> 
>>> Did not go looking for the thread in which this was mentioned.
>>> 
>>> This evening when I popped GnC open, it reported:  "There are no
>>> Scheduled Transactions to be entered at this time.  (One transaction
>>> automatically created)."
>>> Screen
>>> Was only given the option to Close the information window.  I did check
>>> the general journal and a scheduled transaction for 15 days out was
>>> created.  I checked that scheduled transaction and it was set to be
>>> created 15 days out (which would have been today).
>> 
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> 
> -- 
> David Carlson
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 11:32:58 +0000
> From: Gareth Davies <gareth.davies.1 at ntlworld.com>
> To: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net, gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Transaction Report Question
> Message-ID: <D8835824-1A2A-4093-A8CA-12FD9263CFA3 at ntlworld.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> ?Thanks, for the reply Adrien,
> 
> I think I have tried every tick box without having any luck.
> It looks like I will have to accept it as it is for now, but I will keep on 
> trying.
> 
> Regards,
> Gareth
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnucash-user 
> <gnucash-user-bounces+gareth.davies.1=ntlworld.com at gnucash.org> On Behalf Of 
> Adrien Monteleone
> Sent: 29 January 2021 01:21
> To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Transaction Report Question
> 
> Sounds like you need to fiddle with the Sort tab options.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 1/28/21 3:25 PM, Gareth Davies via gnucash-user wrote:
>> Windows 10   Gnucash 4.4
>> 
>> Hi,
>> My Laptop died on me and although everything was backed up the Transaction 
>> Reports I had saved were lost.
>> I have installed Ver 4.4 on my new laptop, but when I create a Transaction 
>> Report it will not let me list the dates in order under the Payee?s name.
>> 
>> With the previous version the dates were in order, so I don?t know if this 
>> is because I am not ticking in the correct boxes or not.
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 11:32:55 +0000
> From: Michael Hendry <hendry.michael at gmail.com>
> To: adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net
> Cc: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Filtering reports on contents of Memo field
> Message-ID: <742AD50A-EFCA-4AF0-8F08-3B4D7C2271C8 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
> 
>> On 11 Feb 2021, at 00:36, Adrien Monteleone <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Transaction Report, not Account Report.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
> 
> Thanks, Adrian.
> 
> D?oh!
> 
> I don?t know why I?ve never used the Transaction Report before, it provides all the sorting and totalling I need (by intended destination for reports to the club, and by member?s name for Gift Aid).
> 
> It has also revealed that I didn?t need to use the ?M: name? in the memo field, as ?name" on its own is quite enough. And if I?m inconsistent in the spelling or format of the name, or leave the name out altogether, this will be revealed by the Transaction Report when sorted in Memo order.
> 
> Marvellous! What a boon this list is.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 10:10:39 -0000
> From: <gareth.davies.1 at ntlworld.com>
> To: <adrien.monteleone at lusfiber.net>,	<gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Transaction Report Question
> Message-ID: <04de01d7005e$2837a460$78a6ed20$@ntlworld.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
> 
> Thanks, for the reply Adrien,
> 
> I think I have tried every tick box without having any luck.
> It looks like I will have to accept it as it is for now, but I will keep on trying.
> 
> Regards,
> Gareth
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+gareth.davies.1=ntlworld.com at gnucash.org> On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone
> Sent: 29 January 2021 01:21
> To: gnucash-user at lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Transaction Report Question
> 
> Sounds like you need to fiddle with the Sort tab options.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 1/28/21 3:25 PM, Gareth Davies via gnucash-user wrote:
>> Windows 10   Gnucash 4.4
>> 
>> Hi,
>> My Laptop died on me and although everything was backed up the Transaction Reports I had saved were lost.
>> I have installed Ver 4.4 on my new laptop, but when I create a Transaction Report it will not let me list the dates in order under the Payee?s name.
>> 
>> With the previous version the dates were in order, so I don?t know if this is because I am not ticking in the correct boxes or not.
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 09:59:29 +0100
> From: Geert Janssens <geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be>
> To: Elmar <etschme at gmail.com>, gnucash-user at gnucash.org, Derek Atkins
> 	<derek at ihtfp.com>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly
> Message-ID: <4601701.GXAFRqVoOG at legolas.kobaltwit.lan>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Op donderdag 11 februari 2021 03:42:52 CET schreef Christopher Lam:
>> Scheme backtraces are usually found at
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile but if flatpak hides them somewhere
>> obscure you can dump onto console via "gnucash --logto=stdout". See
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Logging
>> 
> 
> The default trace file location on flatpak doesn't work indeed. By default the 
> trace file will be written in /tmp and that folder is treated special by 
> flatpak. The details aren't clear to me yet, but it's indeed safer to  add the 
> --logto option. You are free to use a file name there (for example "$HOME/
> gnucash.trace") or stdout.
> 
> Note for completeness to start the flatpak edition of gnucash you'll probably 
> have to  invoke something more like this:
> flatpak run org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout"
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 6:29 am Elmar, <etschme at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The sequence of events was that I had been running 3.8, but somehow it
>>> started to fail badly, with CTD.  So I uninstalled that one and
>>> reinstalled the one from the Mint repository, which was 2.6.19.  All
>>> seemed well. I tried to reinstall 3.6 and then 3.8, then 3.11, but the
>>> installs failed in weird ways, which I didn't bother to document - my
>>> goal was to get to 4.4 anyway.  So I gave up and grabbed the flatpak of
>>> 4.4.  In all these versions, going up and down, the data file remained
>>> perfect, and once I moved the "guts" of my aqbanking folder (archived
>>> from version 3.8) into the correct folder for 4.4, my online banking
>>> (downloads of transactions) also worked perfectly, and continue to
>>> work.  The "guts" of the gnucash folder (the one holding the reports
>>> templates) when copied from the 3.8 archive into the correct 4.4 folder
>>> (under .var) seemed to go smoothly, and all my reports showed up fine,
>>> and they run fine.  I just cannot edit or delete any one of them without
>>> a CTD, and have to delete the settings6 folder to get them to show up
>>> again.  All check and repair seems to do is look for imbalances across
>>> the selected accounts, and it finds no problems.  It doesn't touch
>>> report or online templates as far as I can see. So, as I said, my only
>>> problem are editing my reports (running them works), and I see no way to
>>> edit/resave them, since I CTD as soon as I try.
>>> 
>>> On 2/10/21 5:13 PM, David H wrote:
>>>> Elmar,
>>>> 
>>>> Can I ask how you went from 2.6.19 to 4.4 flatpak?  ... For the
>>>> reports you may have to open each and re-save the config after the 2.8
>>>> update, I don't know.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers David H.
>>> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 07:55:56 -0500
> From: Robert Stocker <kneadtoknow at gmail.com>
> To: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> Subject: [GNC] FOLLOW-UP Re: Credit Card payment pop-up doesn't appear
> 	on *some* credit card accounts after reconcile
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAHtYck4BG_iXZU=hgVmDU+zksbXrQE5ZAwy3nbZvLjMRZQ0tBg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> One of four statements has reconciled WITH the expected payment pop-up.
> Alas, I never managed to keep track of which ones behaved correctly and
> which didn't, so I'll have to wait until the first of the month to be 100%
> sure, but we're off to a good start.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 07:58:29 -0500
> From: Elmar <etschme at gmail.com>
> To: Geert Janssens <geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be>,
> 	gnucash-user at gnucash.org, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly
> Message-ID: <880d475f-7910-8c92-5660-9dfaf192d4b3 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Trying "flatpak run org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace"
> 
> does not invoke the program and instead gives me
> 
> "error: app/org.GnuCash.gnucash/x86_64/master not installed"
> 
> Which is very odd, since it runs from the menu system fine.
> 
> - Elmar
> 
> On 2/11/21 3:59 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
>> The default trace file location on flatpak doesn't work indeed. By  > default the trace file will be written in /tmp and that folder is > 
> treated special by flatpak. The details aren't clear to me yet, but > 
> it's indeed safer to add the --logto option. You are free to use a > 
> file name there (for example "$HOME/ gnucash.trace") or stdout. > > Note 
> for completeness to start the flatpak edition of gnucash you'll > 
> probably have to invoke something more like this: flatpak run > 
> org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout" > > Regards, > > 
> Geert >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:16:38 +0100
> From: Geert Janssens <geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be>
> To: gnucash-user at gnucash.org, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com>
> Cc: Christopher Lam <christopher.lck at gmail.com>, Elmar
> 	<etschme at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] flatpak 4.4 reports anomaly
> Message-ID: <12707367.uLZWGnKmhe at legolas.kobaltwit.lan>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> In that case the first thing to do is to figure out how exactly your system 
> calls the flatpak version of gnucash. There are quite a few subtle details 
> that may affect this.
> 
> You can examine the menu entry to figure out what command is being run 
> exactly.
> 
> Out of curiosity have you been removing installed flatpaks manually by 
> deleting associated directories ? The error suggests flatpak believes a 
> version of gnucash (master) is installed on your system while it appears not 
> to.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> Op donderdag 11 februari 2021 13:58:29 CET schreef Elmar:
>> Trying "flatpak run org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto=$HOME/gnucash.trace"
>> 
>> does not invoke the program and instead gives me
>> 
>> "error: app/org.GnuCash.gnucash/x86_64/master not installed"
>> 
>> Which is very odd, since it runs from the menu system fine.
>> 
>> - Elmar
>> 
>> On 2/11/21 3:59 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
>>> The default trace file location on flatpak doesn't work indeed. By  >
>>> default the trace file will be written in /tmp and that folder is >
>> treated special by flatpak. The details aren't clear to me yet, but >
>> it's indeed safer to add the --logto option. You are free to use a >
>> file name there (for example "$HOME/ gnucash.trace") or stdout. > > Note
>> for completeness to start the flatpak edition of gnucash you'll >
>> probably have to invoke something more like this: flatpak run >
>> org.GnuCash.gnucash --logto="path-to-log-to-or-stdout" > > Regards, > >
>> Geert >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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