[GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue

Mon Oct 4 11:16:54 EDT 2021

An explanation of the *conversion process* used by Amazon for kindle is
given here https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200634390.
Note that MOBI is not supported for new documents.

Dale

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 9:32 PM A Harvey <gah1178 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Addressing the messages in reverse order.
> I should have been more precise.  All my comments have assumed the user has
> an Kindle e-reader, i.e. "Kindle", "Kindle Paperwhite" or "Kindle Oasis".
> I thought the "Kindle Fire" was or is a tablet, not just an e-reader.  I
> know very little about the Fire.  I think it has a color display and does
> stuff one might expect a tablet to do including download and run apps.
>
> With respect to how to get documents onto a Kindle, either of the methods I
> briefly described will work for any format supported by the Kindle.  I have
> a bunch of books I bought from a non-Amazon site that lets one download a
> purchased book in multiple formats.  This site offers PDF, ePub and MOBI.
> I uploaded books in all 3 formats (including ePub) from my PC to my Amazon
> account by emailing the books, as attachments, to the email address
> supplied by Amazon for that purpose.  My Kindle will display all of these
> in the list of documents for my personal library.  WiFi connection
> required, of course. If I want to read them, I can download them from my
> library at Amazon to my Kindle device over the network. They remain stored
> on the device until I decide to remove them.  I can read the PDF version,
> with some pain as I mentioned. I can read the MOBI version without any
> trouble.  If I try to read the ePub, I get an error essentially telling me
> it can't decipher that.
>
> I have also loaded various format docs from my PC to my Kindle via a USB
> cable.  I find the email method to be much easier and faster than
> connecting the device to my PC.  Also, I can load the books from my library
> to the Android Kindle app and to the Windows app in the same way as I do
> for the Kindle device.
>
> With respect to handling HTML as a document, it works fine if there is only
> a *single* HTML file with no other files required.  I don't think this
> would work very well for the GNC documentation if it requires any other
> files of any type including HTML or a directory structure.  I think
> Amazon has a section on its web site with information for authors.  I have
> not looked at this and don't know if it has suggestions that would help for
> the GNC documentation.
>
> Regarding Amazon dropping MOBI, I hadn't heard about Amazon dropping MOBI
> support from their readers.  There would be a large number of pissed-off
> people who bought content from Amazon in MOBI years ago. I'm guessing they
> require any new books that are sold through Amazon to be one of the AZW
> formats as I think they have better formatting capabilities and make it
> harder to remove DRM.  I haven't investigated that carefully so don't quote
> me.
>
> I tried the link from flywire
> https://gnucash-docs-rst.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html
>  in the "Experimental Browser" (I'm thinking that the browser has been
> around maybe 10 or more years.  An endless experiment).  I was happy that
> it loaded more quickly than I expected.  Most of my time was spent trying
> to correctly type the url.  Using links to navigate worked fine.  One must
> remember that the Kindle display is black and white only so everything is
> grayscale.  Also, it has the same size issue as does PDF.  The entire page
> is loaded and the only way to enlarge text is by zooming in.  No reflow of
> that document.
>
> I also loaded a single HTML document to the device and displayed it as I
> would any other book . It works fine. Text reflows and it follows links to
> locations that are within the document.
>
> Hope some of this information proves useful.
> -Arthur
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 7:24 PM D. <sunfish62 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The app question depends on the type of Kindle you're using. The Fire has
> > supported apps in the past, but more bare bones Kindles don't.
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* A Harvey
> > *Sent:* Sun Oct 03 15:30:50 EDT 2021
> > *To:* "D."
> > *Cc:* flywire , Gnucash Users
> > *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue
> >
> > Flywire and D.
> > Thanks for the suggestions.  I will try them tonight and report back.
> >
> > The Kindle has what Amazon calls the "Experimental Browser".  I have
> tried
> > it a few times in the past just to see what it's like.  What it's like is
> > pouring molasses, but it works.  I will try entering the link in the
> Kindle
> > browser.  I will also try to display an HTML document loaded to my Kindle
> > to compare the speed.  I assume that would be much faster. To get an HTML
> > document to a Kindle, I either have to email it to an address that is
> > unique to my account which will store it with the rest of my docs on an
> > Amazon server, or plug my Kindle into a PC and copy the document from the
> > PC to the Kindle.
> >
> > With respect to downloading an app, I don't think the Kindle supports
> apps
> > of any kind. I should say I have never seen any downloadable apps on
> Amazon
> > or on the web. I have seen a few grumbles about Kindle not having
> > downloadable games.
> > -Arthur
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 9:29 AM D. via gnucash-user <
> > gnucash-user at gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> >> If Arthur can load the html in your link on his Kindle, he could install
> >> an epub app (such as Overdrive) and get his flow going using that.
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> From: flywire < flywire0 at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Sun Oct 03 07:25:44 EDT 2021
> >> To: Gnucash Users < gnucash-user at gnucash.org>
> >> Subject: [GNC] Build 4.8 docs issue
> >>
> >> Arthur, that's a nice summary of a
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflowable_document
> >>
> >> The issue has been raised and
> >> https://gnucash-docs-rst.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html was
> >> offered as a format. Does it work on a Kindle?
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